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Post by fitz on Nov 29, 2017 17:23:29 GMT
Taking Jacko out of midfield was the fatal flaw. Not introducing many new players especially from 82 onwards was a also fatal flaw - there was Kennedy, Timmy D and Ger Lynch of course, but the core unit was still hero based, year in, year out. There didn't seem to be a structure for bringing through younger players then? Maybe as the years to follow proved - the players just weren't there?
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 29, 2017 17:38:06 GMT
Taking Jacko out of midfield was the fatal flaw. Not introducing many new players especially from 82 onwards was a also fatal flaw - there was Kennedy, Timmy D and Ger Lynch of course, but the core unit was still hero based, year in, year out. There didn't seem to be a structure for bringing through younger players then? Maybe as the years to follow proved - the players just weren't there? In fairness Tom Spillane, Ambrose O'Donovan and Willie Maher were also added. Player like Mick Galway, Stephen Stack, Mick McAuliffe and John Higgins were not quite making the grade. Kerry had contested the NFL final that spring against Dublin coming off the back of three in a row so were very much still at the top table. How much more thinkering could be done and how many more players were knocking around from '80 & '82 minor teams?
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Post by hurlingman on Nov 29, 2017 18:01:30 GMT
Im totally fine. You on the other hand suffer from something many in Ireland do, that being not liking the truth. As iv asked already point on something wrong with what iv said? Seeing as you tend to only see what you want to ill list them again. First Crokes arrogance of thnking the EK board would just roll over and let them have their way back finred. Second they have no back up plan for when its put up to them. Third they are one of the most cynical around. Many Crokes fans, you being, one like to try and paint them in a different light and are quick to point the finger at others. As i said whats not true about any of the above points? Ok I'll bite: Crokes requested the match be rescheduled to allow us concentrate on the Munster final - no arrogance; just a simple request to have a match deferred. So that's that point null and void. South Kerry and Slaughtneil are just two examples of teams who have "put it up to" Crokes recently - we won both matches. So that's that point null and void as well Crokes are somewhat cynical - all successful teams (Kerry, Dublin, Tyrone etc etc) are and Crokes are a supremely (I repeat supremely) successful Club. But I still wouldn't call them them "one of the most" cynical. You'll have to pull up some of my old posts from years ago to prove this point so off you go, have a good old trawl through my posts from years ago. It'll be a nice little project for you, however it might enrage you more which may not be a good thing for a man of your age, health and, let's be honest here, current level of bitterness towards the reigning 2017 Kerry County Senior Football Champions. They refused to play. Pain it whatever why you like thats what happened. Fires tried to do the same and were also rightly trown out. So why then do Crokes think they should get special treatment? Also Ballybuff have been playing both codes a lot over the last few weeks and haven't asked for any fixture changes to suit them? With a much smaller panel then the might Crokes pnael. So again why do Crokes think they should be treated any different? South Kerry three times. Nemo twice. Castlebar, Ballymun, Crossmaglen and Rathmore in EK in resent times. All eample of games when it put up to them and had no answer, and that's just off the top of my head. They are and have been one of the most cynical teams around for years. They just dont like to admit it and cry once they get back what they give. I'm sure you'll try and find a way to twist this around to suit you like always
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Post by KY50 on Nov 29, 2017 19:33:28 GMT
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Nov 29, 2017 20:15:33 GMT
Sure that site is toxic - you're only losing IQ points reading it
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Post by gaelicden on Nov 29, 2017 20:46:11 GMT
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Nov 29, 2017 21:33:38 GMT
For the love of those living on the county border, Dromid must beat Knocknagree.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 29, 2017 21:57:33 GMT
Kerry clubs playing outside the county should be supported as a matter of course. While I agree, I would however have been up for Slaughneill to win it in 2018 even if Crokes were in the final...given that Crokes had won it in 2017. The sheer valour of a tiny club in Derry on the side of a hill promoting both games (as well as Camogie and basically starting up a mini Gaeltacht into the bargain) is inspiring. For me anyhow.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 29, 2017 22:28:24 GMT
Are there any lads from the Kerry side of the Blackwater playing with Knocknagree?
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Post by ballynamona on Nov 29, 2017 22:53:05 GMT
Not introducing many new players especially from 82 onwards was a also fatal flaw - there was Kennedy, Timmy D and Ger Lynch of course, but the core unit was still hero based, year in, year out. There didn't seem to be a structure for bringing through younger players then? Maybe as the years to follow proved - the players just weren't there? In fairness Tom Spillane, Ambrose O'Donovan and Willie Maher were also added. Player like Mick Galway, Stephen Stack, Mick McAuliffe and John Higgins were not quite making the grade. Kerry had contested the NFL final that spring against Dublin coming off the back of three in a row so were very much still at the top table. How much more thinkering could be done and how many more players were knocking around from '80 & '82 minor teams? Owen McCrohan's book on Mick O'Dwyer is interesting on this point. It should be seen as the definitive account of Micko's years with Kerry, but he did a book later with the better-known Martin Breheny which people may know better. Soon after the 1987 League Final, Kerry went on a tour of the US to play the All-Stars and were heavily beaten over 2 games. It doesn't seem to have been a tour where there was lots of boozing, and Dwyer said in retrospect it was the start of the decline. McCrohan says that eleven players were in their 30s by then. That is an old team. The decline, when it came in Fitzgerald Stadium in 1987, was sudden and precipitous. It must be mentioned that Cork had been getting their act together too. Kerry were unlucky in that guys who were up to it like Willie Maher and Ger Lynch had bad injuries. Willie Maher started the 1986 AI Final but was held to have never recovered top form after a 1984 leg break. Timmy O'Dowd finished with Kerry early - can't have been more than 25. I think he went to England and more could surely have been done to keep him around. His performance at midfield with Jacko in the second half of the 1986 final was crucial in turning the tide. I know plenty of people who say John Higgins was good enough but didn't get the breaks. He started a Semi-Final v Monaghan in 1985 (drawn game) and was dropped for the replay. Gerard Murphy of Laune Rangers was another great prospect who got injured. Not quite as well known as some of the others but started a Munster Final in 1988. Mick Galwey was probably not quite at the required level. Stephen Stack was cleaned out by Ciaran Duff in the aforementioned 1987 NFL Final and his career didn't recover for a few years. It's probably true that not enough 'core' players came through, i.e. players in the main central positions. Dwyer was definitely very loyal to the old brigade. Eamon Walsh of Knocknagoshel played 2 full NFL campaigns for Kerry, and was dropped for the Championship. Mick Spillane was drafted in for the 1989 Munster Final and the gamble misfired. From his perspective the older guys had been great for him; it must have been hard to be ruthless, especially when there was no golden generation lining up. Most of the fringe players that might have been hard done by (John Long, Jackie and Barry Walsh, Johnny Mulvihill, Vincent O'Connor), or good players who may have been discarded earlier than they would have liked (Paudie O'Mahony, Mickey Ned O'Sullivan) were from the early years of the Golden Years. I definitely think the squad depth got that little bit gradually thinner over the years to 1986/87.
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Post by rovingfullforward on Nov 30, 2017 9:57:34 GMT
Ok I'll bite: Crokes requested the match be rescheduled to allow us concentrate on the Munster final - no arrogance; just a simple request to have a match deferred. So that's that point null and void. South Kerry and Slaughtneil are just two examples of teams who have "put it up to" Crokes recently - we won both matches. So that's that point null and void as well Crokes are somewhat cynical - all successful teams (Kerry, Dublin, Tyrone etc etc) are and Crokes are a supremely (I repeat supremely) successful Club. But I still wouldn't call them them "one of the most" cynical. You'll have to pull up some of my old posts from years ago to prove this point so off you go, have a good old trawl through my posts from years ago. It'll be a nice little project for you, however it might enrage you more which may not be a good thing for a man of your age, health and, let's be honest here, current level of bitterness towards the reigning 2017 Kerry County Senior Football Champions. They refused to play. Pain it whatever why you like thats what happened. Fires tried to do the same and were also rightly trown out. So why then do Crokes think they should get special treatment? Also Ballybuff have been playing both codes a lot over the last few weeks and haven't asked for any fixture changes to suit them? With a much smaller panel then the might Crokes pnael. So again why do Crokes think they should be treated any different? South Kerry three times. Nemo twice. Castlebar, Ballymun, Crossmaglen and Rathmore in EK in resent times. All eample of games when it put up to them and had no answer, and that's just off the top of my head. They are and have been one of the most cynical teams around for years. They just dont like to admit it and cry once they get back what they give. I'm sure you'll try and find a way to twist this around to suit you like always All the above shows is your utter and complete hatred and bitterness towards the 2017 All-Ireland Club champions; Dr Crokes. I've said it already but I'll say it again; such a level of antagonism and anger on the internet towards one of the most successful clubs in Kerry is not good for a man of your age and current health. May I suggest you take a little break from your vendetta against the Kerry Senior Football County Champions; Dr Crokes. I won't be posting in this thread again, so good luck to you and I look forward to your support in the 2018 when the Dr Crokes attempt to become the most successful team in Kerry by winning their 13th Senior County Championship - which will put them on top of the pile, where they belong. So goodbye my little internet troll, it's been a pleasure. Na Crocaigh Abú
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Post by hurlingman on Nov 30, 2017 20:06:46 GMT
They refused to play. Pain it whatever why you like thats what happened. Fires tried to do the same and were also rightly trown out. So why then do Crokes think they should get special treatment? Also Ballybuff have been playing both codes a lot over the last few weeks and haven't asked for any fixture changes to suit them? With a much smaller panel then the might Crokes pnael. So again why do Crokes think they should be treated any different? South Kerry three times. Nemo twice. Castlebar, Ballymun, Crossmaglen and Rathmore in EK in resent times. All eample of games when it put up to them and had no answer, and that's just off the top of my head. They are and have been one of the most cynical teams around for years. They just dont like to admit it and cry once they get back what they give. I'm sure you'll try and find a way to twist this around to suit you like always All the above shows is your utter and complete hatred and bitterness towards the 2017 All-Ireland Club champions; Dr Crokes. I've said it already but I'll say it again; such a level of antagonism and anger on the internet towards one of the most successful clubs in Kerry is not good for a man of your age and current health. May I suggest you take a little break from your vendetta against the Kerry Senior Football County Champions; Dr Crokes. I won't be posting in this thread again, so good luck to you and I look forward to your support in the 2018 when the Dr Crokes attempt to become the most successful team in Kerry by winning their 13th Senior County Championship - which will put them on top of the pile, where they belong. So goodbye my little internet troll, it's been a pleasure. Na Crocaigh Abú And you've just proved my point. Not a single thing untrue in what i said, you just refuse to aspect the truth. What's funny is at no point have i tried to discredit any of Crokes success, while you on the other hand have with the number of clubs. It's even funnier to see telling other people thie're bitter and angry, when you yourself are the most bitter when others have success at Crokes expense. What exactly is it about the truth you dont like? Don't worry you're not the only one in modern day Ireland who's like that.
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 30, 2017 21:22:45 GMT
In fairness Tom Spillane, Ambrose O'Donovan and Willie Maher were also added. Player like Mick Galway, Stephen Stack, Mick McAuliffe and John Higgins were not quite making the grade. Kerry had contested the NFL final that spring against Dublin coming off the back of three in a row so were very much still at the top table. How much more thinkering could be done and how many more players were knocking around from '80 & '82 minor teams? Owen McCrohan's book on Mick O'Dwyer is interesting on this point. It should be seen as the definitive account of Micko's years with Kerry, but he did a book later with the better-known Martin Breheny which people may know better. Soon after the 1987 League Final, Kerry went on a tour of the US to play the All-Stars and were heavily beaten over 2 games. It doesn't seem to have been a tour where there was lots of boozing, and Dwyer said in retrospect it was the start of the decline. McCrohan says that eleven players were in their 30s by then. That is an old team. The decline, when it came in Fitzgerald Stadium in 1987, was sudden and precipitous. It must be mentioned that Cork had been getting their act together too. Kerry were unlucky in that guys who were up to it like Willie Maher and Ger Lynch had bad injuries. Willie Maher started the 1986 AI Final but was held to have never recovered top form after a 1984 leg break. Timmy O'Dowd finished with Kerry early - can't have been more than 25. I think he went to England and more could surely have been done to keep him around. His performance at midfield with Jacko in the second half of the 1986 final was crucial in turning the tide. I know plenty of people who say John Higgins was good enough but didn't get the breaks. He started a Semi-Final v Monaghan in 1985 (drawn game) and was dropped for the replay. Gerard Murphy of Laune Rangers was another great prospect who got injured. Not quite as well known as some of the others but started a Munster Final in 1988. Mick Galwey was probably not quite at the required level. Stephen Stack was cleaned out by Ciaran Duff in the aforementioned 1987 NFL Final and his career didn't recover for a few years. It's probably true that not enough 'core' players came through, i.e. players in the main central positions. Dwyer was definitely very loyal to the old brigade. Eamon Walsh of Knocknagoshel played 2 full NFL campaigns for Kerry, and was dropped for the Championship. Mick Spillane was drafted in for the 1989 Munster Final and the gamble misfired. From his perspective the older guys had been great for him; it must have been hard to be ruthless, especially when there was no golden generation lining up. Most of the fringe players that might have been hard done by (John Long, Jackie and Barry Walsh, Johnny Mulvihill, Vincent O'Connor), or good players who may have been discarded earlier than they would have liked (Paudie O'Mahony, Mickey Ned O'Sullivan) were from the early years of the Golden Years. I definitely think the squad depth got that little bit gradually thinner over the years to 1986/87. Excellent post, well written. Galway & Meath/Derry stood between Kerry and a second four in a row if they had made it out of PUC in 1987. Not unreasonable to think Kerry might have come through that field.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 30, 2017 21:53:16 GMT
Meath were going to be very hard to beat in 1987 no matter who they met. Kerry were outplayed for long stretches of the 1986 semifinal v Meath and the 1986 final v Tyrone.
The arrival of Tompins and Fahy gave Cork that extra 10% needed to get over Kerry in 1987.
But 1987 was always likely to be Meaths. Kerry could have done without getting to the league final in 1987.
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Post by ballynamona on Nov 30, 2017 22:48:02 GMT
Mikey's goal in 1987 of course put Kerry a point up and they conceded a pretty soft free to allow Tompkins to level. I think Kerry may well have got past Galway had they escaped PUC with the win. It's tempting to think that they would have raised one final hurrah in the final v Meath. But I'm inclined to agree with Mickmack, Meath were probably that bit less green than 1986 and would probably have been too strong. All conjecture of course.
Hard to credit we're talking about 30 years ago!
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Post by kerrygold on Dec 1, 2017 18:54:05 GMT
Mikey's goal in 1987 of course put Kerry a point up and they conceded a pretty soft free to allow Tompkins to level. I think Kerry may well have got past Galway had they escaped PUC with the win. It's tempting to think that they would have raised one final hurrah in the final v Meath. But I'm inclined to agree with Mickmack, Meath were probably that bit less green than 1986 and would probably have been too strong. All conjecture of course. Hard to credit we're talking about 30 years ago! Hard to know. Multiple champions seeking Kerry v the greenhorns in their first final. I tend to think advantage Kerry.
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Post by kerrygold on Dec 1, 2017 18:54:49 GMT
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Post by Mickmack on Dec 1, 2017 22:10:42 GMT
By Eoghan Cormican Sports Reporter Dromid Pearses manager Declan O’Sullivan has taken issue with the venue for Sunday’s Munster club JFC final.
The meeting of the Kerry and Cork champions, Dromid Pearses and Knocknagree, is scheduled for Mallow. Irking O’Sullivan is that Knocknagree played their Munster quarter-final and semi-final at the North Cork venue.
Moreover, the former Kerry footballer has described it as a “home game” for their opponents, given Knocknagree sits 45km east of Mallow. Dromid Pearses, on the other hand, face a two-hour drive from their South Kerry base. The junior football final (3.15pm) is part of a double-header at Mallow, with the junior club hurling final between Tipperary’s Ballybacon-Grange and Ardmore of Waterford throwing in at 1.30pm.
Mallow has been the choice of venue for all but one of the last 10 Munster junior club football finals, the exception being the 2011 meeting of Dromid Pearses and Kildangan, which was played at Moyvane. Declan O’Sullivan kicked four points that afternoon and believes their chances of securing a second provincial title has been made more difficult by having to travel to a venue that is so familiar to their opponents.
“I was surprised by [the choice of venue]. I would have thought that shouldn’t really be happening. It is a big advantage to them. It is a home game for them, basically,” the Dromid Pearses manager told Radio Kerry yesterday.”
Expanding on this point in The Kerryman, O’Sullivan believes the venue was pre- ordained, a practice he is opposed to.
“There’s nothing we can do about it at this stage, but my own view is no venue for a final should be decided until the two teams that are in the final are known,” said O’Sullivan.
“I don’t think this should be allowed, in the interests of fairness, especially when Knocknagree have played there twice already.”
On a more positive note, Dromid Pearses will be able to call on Niall O’Shea after the red card he received during their extra-time Munster semi-final win over Galtee Gaels was rescinded by Munster Council on appeal. O’Shea was sent off with five minutes remaining in normal time for allegedly striking an opponent, his one-match suspension lifted after the South Kerry club successfully challenged the decision, using video evidence. O’Shea, one of two Dromid Pearses players to feature on the South Kerry starting team which contested this year’s Kerry SFC decider, is a crucial cog in their wheel and, had he not been cleared to play, it would have severely weakened their hand.
Victory for the Kerry champions would continue the county’s remarkable record in the competition, with Kerry clubs having won the last nine editions of this competition. Not since 2007 has a Cork club, Canovee on that occasion, taken ownership of the silverware on offer this weekend.
“The Kerry record is something we haven’t mentioned. The focus is solely on ourselves and our ambitions on Sunday, because that is the only thing we can control. Finals have an ability to take on a life of their own and we’re hopeful that if the lads stay as determined as they have been, that we will be in with a great chance,” said O’Sullivan.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Dec 2, 2017 12:16:15 GMT
Mallow is actually 45km east of Knocknagree and Knocknagree 45km west of Mallow, but a very valid point
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2017 12:40:58 GMT
Pretty weak to be honest
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Post by Mickmack on Dec 2, 2017 12:43:32 GMT
Mallow is actually 45km east of Knocknagree and Knocknagree 45km west of Mallow, but a very valid point no arguing with that!
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Post by kerrygold on Dec 2, 2017 20:10:03 GMT
Declan circling the wagons!
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Post by Mickmack on Dec 3, 2017 12:14:27 GMT
Knocknagree on ‘the hardest championship in the country to win’ Saturday, December 02, 2017Michael Moynihan
In tomorrow’s Munster junior club football final you have a classic derby: Knocknagree of Cork versus Dromid Pearses of Kerry.
Spice. Enmity. Bitterness.
Not so fast, says John Fintan Daly, the Cork side’s manager. It’s more nuanced than that.
“I’ve said it in the past, I think we may be unique among all of the clubs in Cork in that we’re actually in the parish of another county.
“We’re as close to Kerry as you can get without actually being part of Kerry, and I think if you look at our football style, it’s more Kerry-influenced than Cork-influenced. It’s a small area but there’s no hurling, it’s all football.”
Go further. Daly praises the near neighbours: “Rathmore, Gneeveguilla and Knocknagree are sister clubs - they support us, and we support them. They’ve given us huge support in the campaign.
“Will there be people from those clubs there tomorrow to support us? Absolutely. We’re lucky to get this opportunity and we’re hoping to make the most of it. The average age of our team is 22 and a half. Does it mean the start of something in the future? None of us knows that, we don’t know where they’ll be or what they’ll end up doing.
“In fairness, the employment situation around our area in Duhallow is not so bad. We’ve lost a few players to career issues, lads who’d have to move to Dublin and further afield, but generally speaking we’re lucky enough. A lot of the lads are in Cork or nearby.
“We’re not complaining about that, it’s just a reality.”
Daly knows what the bright lights are like. He steered Duhallow to senior county success in Cork in 1990 and 1991, but winning with Knocknagree is special.
“I had a couple of very enjoyable years back in Milltown-Castlemaine in Kerry, we had a lot of success, but there’s nothing like this. I’ve been lucky enough to be involved with All-Ireland teams with Cork, and winning counties with Duhallow over a 13-year stretch . . . but it’s hard to beat this. Your own neighbours, your own home club.
“Winning the county with Knocknagree - winning the junior county, it’s without question the hardest championship in the country to win. There are over 100 teams involved, while Dromid Pearses are in a championship with only 15 teams.
“I’m not criticising Kerry. Far from it. I’ve done a lot of coaching in Kerry, they run their club competitions very well, with a fantastic county league.
“I know they only have 63-odd clubs and Cork have four times that, but they run things well and they keep standards up.
“They have something we don’t, relegation, which most sports have. I think that’s very important to keep standards up.
“You’re probably aware that Cork teams haven’t beaten Kerry in the intermediate or junior club championship since Carbery Rangers in 2003. Cork have never beaten Kerry in a Munster junior final, so that’s pretty stark.
It’s also great to have the competition, a point Daly makes with force.
“I’ve never hidden my admiration for Sean Kelly for organising these competitions. He got huge criticism in some quarters for opening Croke Park temporarily to soccer and rugby, but with the same stroke of his pen he gave junior and intermediate clubs the aspiration to play some day in Croke Park. All of a sudden 95 per cent of the playing population could dream of playing in Croke Park with their club, and I don’t think he’s ever gotten the credit he deserves for that.
Successive administrations said ‘no, we have too many fixture issues as it is’.
“I’d go so far as to say it is the greatest single thing the GAA has done for its small clubs in the last twenty years. Isn’t that what the GAA is all about?
“The other morning I heard Sean Cavanagh on the radio - a riveting interview - talk about getting his club, Moy, over the line, the first time his club got that far, and he said it was the greatest moment in his career. Sean Cavanagh!”
He also admires the footballing tradition behind tomorrow’s opponents.
“I’ve watched them and I’ve no doubt they’ve watched us closely. Remember, they come from a part of Kerry that’s traditionally been very successful. Look at the number of club titles that have gone to South Kerry.
“There was one year that Skellig Rangers won the junior All-Ireland title on the same day that St Michael’s Foilmore won the intermediate title. Cahersiveen won a junior All-Ireland title and followed that with an intermediate All-Ireland.
“So that’s the kind of expectation in that part of the country, and Dromid Pearses would be part of that. They’re managed by Declan O’Sullivan, they have a good young team and there’s huge credit due to them, they’re a small club like ourselves.
“But they come from a county, and an area, which expects to win big things. In Kerry there’s an automatic attitude of ‘I’ll play for Kerry someday and win an All-Ireland medal in Croke Park, or my club will make Croke Park and I’ll be there with them’.
“You don’t have that attitude in Cork, I think. We’re on the border with Kerry and I’d try to drive that into the players, to have that attitude. We were back training within 48 hours of winning the Cork championship and people were surprised by that, but that’s our focus - to go as far as we can. That’s not being big-headed, and in that context Nemo’s win last weekend is a big inspiration.”
The Cork city’s side victory over Killarney’s Dr Crokes is a development Daly returns to again and again.
“I go back to the mid-eighties with Duhallow and I was the bane of Nemo’s life then. We beat them a few times and they beat us, but there was great respect between us, too. I continue to have huge respect for them because they’re the flag-bearers, really, for Cork football. The fact that they did what they did last week is huge, and they deserve massive credit for it. Only two years ago we saw Clonmel beat them with a last-minute goal, but now they’re back. Crokes suffered the same as many All-Ireland champions, they’re tired and beginning to falter, but that isn’t to take anything from Nemo.
“It’s a huge inspiration because for the last few years we’ve been pathetic in Munster, and in Cork we accept that. We shouldn’t. We should demand better standards, and Nemo do. Their win isn’t going to get any scores for us tomorrow but it might give us a bit more confidence.
“And it’s no harm for Kerry as well as Cork that it changes things around. That won’t affect Dromid Pearses, of course. The last time they won in Kerry was 2011; we won with Milltown-Castlemaine that time and we travelled the same road together, ending up in Portlaoise, and the infamous game when they were blackguarded by a Tyrone team.
“They probably feel there’s unfinished business there, so I know how hard they’ll be to beat. If they win we’ll shake hands, but we’re going out to perform.”
And to enjoy it, despite the length of the season.
“This is about two small clubs meeting in a Munster final,” says Daly. “Going on history we have no chance, but we have a nice young team, an attacking team. We have decent forwards and go out to score - it’s not about what I call playing football in a phone box, I believe in letting the ball do the work. We enjoy it and we’re just waiting for the opportunity.
“It’s been a long season. We’ve had 130-odd get-togethers, 38 games played, and the 39th on Sunday. And after that a county league final to play as well. So it’ll be 40 games in 2017: a lot of work.”
And a little bit more to do yet.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Dec 3, 2017 12:26:26 GMT
Best of luck to Dromid and Clanmaurice today.
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Post by kerrygold on Dec 3, 2017 12:28:26 GMT
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Post by Mickmack on Dec 3, 2017 12:41:52 GMT
Perhaps the narrative should be that Colm isn't really a shadow of the player he was (before the terrible injury) and that it says a lot about him that he had the mental fortitude to come back at all. For a man where football was such a part of his life, it must have been a devastating thing. After he came back he could still provide the killer pass etc if given time and space (the brain as alert as ever) but he doesnt seem to be able to find room any more when tightly marked. Every great player has missed crucial frees from time to time.
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Post by veteran on Dec 3, 2017 12:51:36 GMT
I can find very little wrong with Eamon Sweeney's article. He said nothing spiteful , merely suggested that Colm's off pitch activities may have contributed to his insipid performance. That is his opinion. It maybe wrong but it could conceivably be nail on the head.
Somtimes, we tend to be hypersensitive to what we perceive to be adverse comments about our heroes. Our players get more undeserved praise than undeserved criticism. Marc could have picked a better target or better still no target at all. In other words , he could have ignored this inoffensive article.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Dec 3, 2017 13:17:18 GMT
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Dec 3, 2017 13:34:27 GMT
While not being hypersensitive- it is also possible to take issue with a wind-up merchant like Sweeney. Lest we remember the nonsense that he wrote about Mayo in the summer whereby he called their sideline donkeys.
The man is Brolly in print form a lot of the time- a classless buffoon who claims to write thought provoking articles but it's really just click bait, attention seeking nonsense
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Post by ballynamona on Dec 3, 2017 14:23:26 GMT
While not being hypersensitive- it is also possible to take issue with a wind-up merchant like Sweeney. Lest we remember the nonsense that he wrote about Mayo in the summer whereby he called their sideline donkeys. The man is Brolly in print form a lot of the time- a classless buffoon who claims to write thought provoking articles but it's really just click bait, attention seeking nonsense I have to agree. The article on Gooch was just lazy and spiteful. He deserves to be flagged for it.
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