Free Taking Competition to decide draws in U17s'

[onlykerry]

All Ireland Under 17 Semi Final

Kerry have been fixed to play their All Ireland Under 17 Football Semi Final against Roscommon on Saturday 12th August in Ennis with a 2pm throw-in time.

The other semi final between Meath and Tyrone will take place in Breffini Park on Wednesday August 8th.

Extra time will apply in the event of a draw and if the teams are still level then a free taking competition will decide the outcome on the day as follows:

Each team will nominate 5 free takers for the competition and indicate to the referee in which order (1 to 5) the free takers will take the frees

The 5 players above must be chosen from players who have participated in the game, either in normal time or in one of the periods of Extra Time.

Players who receive a red card in Hurling or Football, and players who receive a black card in Football, in normal time or any of the four periods of Extra Time are not permitted to participate in the free-taking competition.

The game is awarded to whichever team scores more of their 5 frees.

If still level then sudden death frees to be taken using the same 5 players in order (i.e. first sudden death free is taken by the player who took the first free for each side, 2nd sudden death free if required to be taken by the player who took the 2nd free and so on).

If a player scores in sudden death and his direct opponent misses, the game is awarded to the team of the player who has scored.

The sudden death element will continue until such time as there is a definite outcome (i.e. returning to the first player(s) and repeating the sequence again if required).

[onlykerry]

This is a new departure - begs a number of questions.
Is this anywhere in the rule book?
Are frees from hand or ground?
Where are frees taken from?

[keane]

A lot of pressure to be putting quite young lads under taking 'sudden death' kicks to decide matches.

[kerrybhoy06]

Aug 1, 2017 10:21:48 GMT keane said:

A lot of pressure to be putting quite young lads under taking 'sudden death' kicks to decide matches.

I was at the Austin Stacks under 13 tournament a few years back and 3 teams finished level on points at the group stage- they decided who advanced on the basis of a free kick taking comp.

I thought at the time that it was ludicrous and some lads really wilted- it was under 13s for godsake!!

[kerrygold]

Shocking stuff, what's the hurry with this competition?

[ballybunion]

I think this un GAAlike conclusion for this competition and age group is crazy and hopefully it doesn't come about.
This is a team game and All Ireland semi final at U17 level,a competition that will replace the minor championship.Its not under 6's.
Its very much non GAA and I wonder who were the suited geniuses that thought it up.Next they will be playing such finals in large halls or tossing a coin or maybe they could draw the winner from a bowl on Sky Sport before a major game.
GAA gaelic football is a team sport and should be concluded by a team.

[hatchetman]

Was this discussed at congress?

Do they make these rules up on the hoof?

[ballybunion]

It was discussed at congress.Makes you think of who is attending congress,where are the grassroots people or are we in the minority?
Wait and see,in 20 years time they will be picking the winner of the senior All Ireland out of a bowl on TV with an viewing audience of 10 million grossing ........€

[Attacking Wing Back]

What a load of sh*t.
Does the ball have to over the bar or do goals count?
At which end are the frees taken?
Is there an exclusion zone for the other players?
How long does the player get to take the free?
Off the hands or ground?
Why just 5 frees?
If you are taking it off your hands how long a run up can you have? Its easier to kick off your hands on the run as it were.

[buck02]

I think this is how they have decided draws after extra time in the knockout stages of Feile.

On a related note, I know this is the last year of quarter finals but I would be in favour of playing extra time in the event of a draw in all games up to the All Ireland final.

Does it make sense that a draw between Mayo and Cork went to extra time and a week later a draw between Mayo and Roscommon went to a replay.

[kerrygold]

It will be interesting to see how appealing the u17 competition will become to the general public in time. If it happens to be decided like this this year it sets a poor precedent from the offset!

[keane]

Aug 1, 2017 13:24:34 GMT buck02 said:

I think this is how they have decided draws after extra time in the knockout stages of Feile.

On a related note, I know this is the last year of quarter finals but I would be in favour of playing extra time in the event of a draw in all games up to the All Ireland final.

Does it make sense that a draw between Mayo and Cork went to extra time and a week later a draw between Mayo and Roscommon went to a replay.

Pretty sure they brought that rule in this year to start in '18 also.

[ballhopper34]

Here is my solution: Instead of two 10-minute periods of extra time, have two 5-minute periods first and, if still level, have another pair of 5-minute periods.

If still level at the end of second pair of 5-minute extra times, just keep playing and the next score wins.

[onlykerry]

This U17 grade become the new Minor competition next year - will the GAA leave it in the prime position of curtain raiser to the senior SF & Final - last years final had a desperately poor attendance.
Is it time to give a "B Championship" a prime position in an effort to make it attractive for counties to participate in it or even the Junior competition which never sees game time on the hallowed turf of Croke Park?

[buck02]

Aug 3, 2017 8:51:14 GMT onlykerry said:

This U17 grade become the new Minor competition next year - will the GAA leave it in the prime position of curtain raiser to the senior SF & Final - last years final had a desperately poor attendance.
Is it time to give a "B Championship" a prime position in an effort to make it attractive for counties to participate in it or even the Junior competition which never sees game time on the hallowed turf of Croke Park?

The B Championship Final should be played before one of the semi finals. There is enough demand for final tickets besides all of Leitrim, Carlow or Cork want to see their football team play on All Ireland final day.