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Post by givehimaball on Jul 12, 2017 16:38:27 GMT
I've heard about 17 different versions of events and I've only been talking to about 7/8 different people about this[was around town a good bit today]. I think the bit of warm weather is really great for driving gossip. Lads far keener to stand around jawing/speculating as opposed to bothering with doing any work. "Talk to them all and say nothing" as my grandfather used to say.
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Post by fitz on Jul 12, 2017 16:41:43 GMT
I'm hoping it's not Sheehan, he's a big game player. Speed is his big limitation, but his scores in league final and that 45 again Donegal in 14 final are just two big step up moments. Definitely, don't want to lose Daz either, he's a game changer player. Don't want to lose Kealy either. I'd be confident it's not Killian.
Look at, when we know, we'll all head down to his gaff, put the collective arms around him, and coax him back.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2017 17:44:38 GMT
It has to be Sheehan. Doesn't have the legs for it now. Went down the pecking order this year. A brilliant free taker. Saved Kerry on plenty occasions with his free taking but I think with young players like Jack Barry, Kevin McCarthy, Jack Savage and Sean O'Shea stepping up this year it was going to be tough to make the Panel. Injuries too didn't help him.
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Post by greengold35 on Jul 12, 2017 17:59:41 GMT
A specialist position with a possible replacement from Rathmore? Our No 2 for No 1 ! Cannot be anybody else!
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Post by veteran on Jul 12, 2017 18:32:54 GMT
One would think that if there was substance to this story there would be confirmation by now?
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Post by Fado on Jul 12, 2017 19:00:40 GMT
This is just a rumour until confirmed publicly, posting is in very poor taste.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2017 20:12:47 GMT
One would think that if there was substance to this story there would be confirmation by now? Don't see why there would be especially if it is the player most of us think. It is not that big a story ultimately. The earliest I would expect to hear anything would be from eamonn pre the quarter final
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2017 3:22:52 GMT
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jul 13, 2017 6:18:12 GMT
Brendan Kealy, look lads GK has been our achilles for years now. Let's hope the two new keepers that came in and push for number 1. In too many big games there was a meltdown in goals and cost us.
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Post by ballynamona on Jul 13, 2017 6:18:49 GMT
Poor form if true. Lack of game time goes with being a sub keeper, so it is a ridiculous reason for leaving the panel at this stage of a season. I don't remember the rotation policy ever going beyond the league so I'm not sure what his exact grievance could be. Ultimately he is not first choice at the moment because he lacked composure at the end of the league final. This management and previous have given Kealy a lot of game-time. I'm grateful for his efforts, but would hope to see Kerry strengthen in this position over the next few years.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jul 13, 2017 6:36:42 GMT
I have to say I am most sympathetic to Kealy. I see no reason to suggest that Kealy is not the better option at the moment.
Very poor timing however.
Many posters have been talking up prodigious goalkeepers out East. I hope these fellows are as good as people say. I for one expect no miracles and regret that we can't call upon our recent All-Star.
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 13, 2017 6:46:17 GMT
Weakens Kerry position if true, restarts were a shambles in the Munster final. Kealy was superb in the league final until the meltdown at the end and should have been worked with on this. Ryan needs to decide to start playing in goals at all levels, colleges and club, if he is to become a viable keeper for Kerry. He shot stopping has been questionable for the u21s and lacked cutting edge due to lack of continuous honing of skills and was one of the contributing factors in the u21defeat. We now have the farcical position of having two novice keepers in Croker if something happened to Kelly with no exposure to senior county football and the modern kickout game. Poor stuff from management I presume Kealy has had enough. Can't blame the guy in fairness. This just compounds the keeper situation, Kealy was beginning to look the part in goals.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2017 6:55:51 GMT
Kealy is our best keeper in my opinion. The guy is 31 also, cannot be easy sitting on the bench at this stage of his career.
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Post by misteallaigh abú on Jul 13, 2017 7:21:52 GMT
Its disappointing news,to be honest. Its not easy to dedicate so much of your time and end up frustrated at not getting game time. However, nobody is indispensable and Im sure that Brendan is well aware that this was bound to be a possibility this year,as it is every year. It comes with the territory.
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Post by pillar on Jul 13, 2017 7:28:28 GMT
I think Kerry goalkeepers the last few years have suffered from a lack of a kick out strategy.This involves ur back line, midfield and even ur wing forwards.Cuxton is lauded as the King but you watch the movement as soon as the ball goes dead.There like flies in a bottle.Having said that when you turn the screw on him he gets meltdowns too and had Dublin lost 2016 semi final it would have been his fault.I think people have been unfair to our keepers cos it's not a fair comparison when you don't have a strategy.Maybe the mark has helped in this regard cos we have definitely improved recently.All goalkeepers make mistakes but a team can only function when you stick to one.It's one posit ion you can't play musical chairs with.
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Post by kerryexile on Jul 13, 2017 7:42:16 GMT
The article in the Indo says that "On Tuesday night, two young keepers, Shane Ryan ( Rathmore) and Shane Murphy (Dr Crokes), took part in Kerry senior training for the first time"
Introducing 2 new players in the middle of July, making it 4 players for 1 position with 3 games left in the season is going to bring a reaction. If they were introduced purely to get experience that should have been explained. If they are good enough to compete for a starting position then why were they not introduced months ago so that everyone would know where they stood.
Management hasn't covered itself in glory here.
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Post by buck02 on Jul 13, 2017 7:44:01 GMT
I hoped Fitz was keeping Kealy benched in an attempt at keeping a kick out strategy under wraps until the end of August but obviously this thinking was like the rumours that Sheehan would be in goals against Dublin last year.
I would certainly have Kealy ahead of Kelly, I think he is a better shot stopper and has a better kick out.
Goes to show what a difficult position GK is. James O Donoghue could drop a ball and mess up two passes and we wouldnt bat an eyelid. A GK does the same and he is crucified.
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Post by buck02 on Jul 13, 2017 7:45:30 GMT
The article in the Indo says that "On Tuesday night, two young keepers, Shane Ryan ( Rathmore) and Shane Murphy (Dr Crokes), took part in Kerry senior training for the first time" Introducing 2 new players in the middle of July, making it 4 players for 1 position with 3 games left in the season is going to bring a reaction. If they were introduced purely to get experience that should have been explained. If they are good enough to compete for a starting position then why were they not introduced months ago so that everyone would know where they stood. Management hasn't covered itself in glory here. I think he had gone before training on Tuesday.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jul 13, 2017 7:47:33 GMT
The article in the Indo says that "On Tuesday night, two young keepers, Shane Ryan ( Rathmore) and Shane Murphy (Dr Crokes), took part in Kerry senior training for the first time" Introducing 2 new players in the middle of July, making it 4 players for 1 position with 3 games left in the season is going to bring a reaction. If they were introduced purely to get experience that should have been explained. If they are good enough to compete for a starting position then why were they not introduced months ago so that everyone would know where they stood. Management hasn't covered itself in glory here. I for one have no problem with the two extra lads being brought in. I say that as a Kealy person.
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 13, 2017 8:12:08 GMT
The article in the Indo says that "On Tuesday night, two young keepers, Shane Ryan ( Rathmore) and Shane Murphy (Dr Crokes), took part in Kerry senior training for the first time" Introducing 2 new players in the middle of July, making it 4 players for 1 position with 3 games left in the season is going to bring a reaction. If they were introduced purely to get experience that should have been explained. If they are good enough to compete for a starting position then why were they not introduced months ago so that everyone would know where they stood. Management hasn't covered itself in glory here. I think he had gone before training on Tuesday. Then bringing in the two extra keepers is a reaction to Kealy's departure, compounds the situation even more. Not hard to see why Kealy would have walked having watched the keeper situation in the Munster final after his own performance in the league final.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Jul 13, 2017 8:12:21 GMT
Kealy was probably the best shot stopper in the squad. Not at all convinced by Kelly. Even though we won an all Ireland with him in goals. I don't think he is as agile as Kealy and his kick out isn't better either.
I don't think the rathmore keeper can expect to be Kerry No. 1 when he doesn't play their at all for the club etc. Goalkeeper is a specialist position, you can't really flit in and out of it at the top level.
Hopefully the lad from Crokes gets a run during next years league or Ryan goes in goals full-time ( would be a blow to rathmore though)
I understand Kealys decision to walk away. I know people will say there is only a few months left in the season. Obviously he feels he isn't getting a fair crack of the whip. He has made some big saves down the years too for Kerry.
Made a couple of crackers against Tyrone in 15 and cork in the same year. And a few in 11 against the dubs. Always had an issue under the high ball but has improved in that regard too
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Post by veteran on Jul 13, 2017 8:13:34 GMT
While I would put Brendan marginally ahead of Brian I am. not sure that he has valid grounds for this action. He got plenty of game time during the NFL and in other years but his panic attack at the end against Dublin probably sealed his fate.
Players complaining about lack of game time seems to be a modern phenomenon. The former Kilkenny goalkeeper , Noel Skehan, sat on the bench for years as understudy to Ollie Walsh. He picked up three or four All Ireland medals in that role. When Ollie retired he picked three or four more as first choice keeper.
I wonder will Brendan regret this decision, particularly if he misses out on a medal come September. In any case, I sincerely wish him well.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jul 13, 2017 8:28:12 GMT
Really good shot stopper and good servant over the years.
Goalkeeping has changed substantially over the last 5/6 years and a lot of lads in their late 20s/early 30s were not trained as young fellas in this new style of goalkeeping and have thus struggled with the additional demands of tactical kickouts- this has probably been where Brendan has come up short as its not been his natural (although thats an oxymoron) game.
I wish him good luck for the future and thanks for the service
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Post by onlykerry on Jul 13, 2017 8:53:53 GMT
GK is a specialist position as we all know and in the modern game it is all or nothing for the candidates. We have other players on the panel that I am sure are frustrated as hell at not making the starting 15 but these guys frequently get some game time off the bench unlike a sub keeper. Giving up your life to train like a pro and knowing father time is not on your side makes the situation even worse. Our thanks to Brendan for his service and dedication and regrets it boiled over for him like this - ultimately the decision is his and the best of luck to him. There are always guys waiting in the wings for their opportunity and the two new keeper candidates will freshen it up and keep others on their toes.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jul 13, 2017 9:13:45 GMT
I think Kealy has a good kickout.
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Post by mandad on Jul 13, 2017 9:21:40 GMT
I think it is safe to say that retirement is a concept that most players choose not to think about in any great detail. I’m sure Brendan has made a careful, reasoned decision based on all the important issues and best interest of himself and his young family that will now fill the void that the training routine filled for many years. He has been a great servant to Kerry football and he carries my sincere best wishes for the future. A proper gentleman.
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Post by hugh20 on Jul 13, 2017 9:26:19 GMT
Thanks to Brendan for his service and commitment throughout the years. He's a very good goalkeeper and he can look back on his career with Kerry and be proud about a successful career. As buck02 mentioned, GK is a position where the player is constantly scrutinised, there is no room for error and this is why goalkeepers come in for criticism more regularly than other positions on the field. I believe there to be little between Kealy and Kelly but would marginally pluck for Kealy, however that matters little. Of course it's not ideal timing for Kerry but I commend him on making a decision at this time because there is little sense being involved when your head is not fully in it and we need a number 2 who is fully focused when/if he is called upon. Brendan is a gentleman, I met him a few times but my nephew used to play soccer with him and said he is a quiet, down to earth fella. Best wishes in the future Brendan and congratulations on a very good career.
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Post by scart on Jul 13, 2017 9:28:20 GMT
It's Bryan Sheehan. You'd swear some of ye were working with MI5. Best of luck to him. Thankfully for our neighbours over the Irish sea you're obviously not working for MI5 either..
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Post by homerj on Jul 13, 2017 10:12:18 GMT
strange decision in mid july with only 2 or 3 games left. surely he could have sat it out for another 2 months and hopefully picked up another medal, then pack it in.
who will get the #16 jersey now?
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Post by hugh20 on Jul 13, 2017 11:32:26 GMT
strange decision in mid july with only 2 or 3 games left. surely he could have sat it out for another 2 months and hopefully picked up another medal, then pack it in. who will get the #16 jersey now? See therein lies some of the problems. Obviously Brendan is not happy on the bench and he probably fells like he cant do much more to convince Eamonn Fitz he should be number one. We have had far too many players down through the years who have been happy to sit on the bench and pick up their Munster or AI medal at the end of the year. Brendan leaving might turn out to be great for us in future and give either Murphy/Ryan or whoever some invaluable experience in with seniors around the business end of the year. There is no point staying in with the panel when your head is not in it. Your confidence is drained and effectively you become more of a liability if called upon. I think this page should be used to congratulate Brendan on a very good career. Conversation about the possible number 16 should be left for a different thread.
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