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Post by onlykerry on May 27, 2017 13:02:09 GMT
This competition kicks off June 21st - not sure if there will be an U21 club championship (not run last year as far as o can remember).
Mid Kerry (including Laune Rangers), E Kerry (including Legion, Kilcummin & Rathmore), S Kerry, Feale Rangers, Shannon Rangers, West Kerry, St Brendan's, Kenmare District, St Kieran's, Gaeltacht join club sides Crokes, Stacks, Rahillys, Dingle and Spa. Draw pending.
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Post by kerryfanatic619 on May 29, 2017 8:29:38 GMT
Bit of a joke the amount of teams involved in the East Kerry set up, basically a county team.
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Post by kerryspectator15 on Jun 1, 2017 21:52:07 GMT
Bit of a joke the amount of teams involved in the East Kerry set up, basically a county team. I agree although the production line in East Kerry has been strong over the last few years. They've been very successful in the championship along with the Sem winning the hogan cup two years in a row. This could all change after a while
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Post by kerryfanatic619 on Jun 2, 2017 7:44:41 GMT
Bit of a joke the amount of teams involved in the East Kerry set up, basically a county team. I agree although the production line in East Kerry has been strong over the last few years. They've been very successful in the championship along with the Sem winning the hogan cup two years in a row. This could all change after a while True production line very good recently but I think this is even more a reason to split it up. Maybe split into Eoin Rua and rest of east Kerry like what is done in U14/16
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Post by onlykerry on Jun 2, 2017 8:42:17 GMT
I agree although the production line in East Kerry has been strong over the last few years. They've been very successful in the championship along with the Sem winning the hogan cup two years in a row. This could all change after a while True production line very good recently but I think this is even more a reason to split it up. Maybe split into Eoin Rua and rest of east Kerry like what is done in U14/16 Would agree - a super strong division is of little benefit to anybody other than the mentors perhaps. It does nothing for the players from the clubs that don't get a game, it does nothing for the competition and ultimately does little for the players themselves.
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Post by givehimaball on Jun 2, 2017 20:07:11 GMT
True production line very good recently but I think this is even more a reason to split it up. Maybe split into Eoin Rua and rest of east Kerry like what is done in U14/16 Would agree - a super strong division is of little benefit to anybody other than the mentors perhaps. It does nothing for the players from the clubs that don't get a game, it does nothing for the competition and ultimately does little for the players themselves. Especially when it's at the age grade where player dropout is at it's highest. It's not far off pushing players out the door.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jun 2, 2017 21:06:17 GMT
Or else just get a few of the senior clubs within that set up to go alone or to join like Rathmore-Kilcummin used to do.
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 2, 2017 23:42:53 GMT
True production line very good recently but I think this is even more a reason to split it up. Maybe split into Eoin Rua and rest of east Kerry like what is done in U14/16 Would agree - a super strong division is of little benefit to anybody other than the mentors perhaps. It does nothing for the players from the clubs that don't get a game, it does nothing for the competition and ultimately does little for the players themselves. The county board could try to balance things up by limiting the likes of east kerry to 3 subs when playing against a club side. Its the six subs from 45 mins on that usually makes the difference
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Post by onlykerry on Jun 3, 2017 11:30:12 GMT
Would agree - a super strong division is of little benefit to anybody other than the mentors perhaps. It does nothing for the players from the clubs that don't get a game, it does nothing for the competition and ultimately does little for the players themselves. The county board could try to balance things up by limiting the likes of east kerry to 3 subs when playing against a club side. Its the six subs from 45 mins on that usually makes the difference Balancing things up is only part of the story - what about the 15+ subs on these big divisional sides who never get a game and the other eligible players who dont even make the divisional panel. As 'givehimaball' highlighted this age group has a very high dropout rate and for the clubs futures it is critical that as many as possible are kept playing the game. I would even suggest 9 or 11 aside teams for smaller clubs just to keep guys interested and involved. There seems to be a general disinterest at admin level (both club and county) at the age group - yet they are the bridge between underage and senior and therefore the lifeblood of clubs at senior level for years to come. The u21 club competition was not even run last year.
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Post by yellowbelly on Jun 5, 2017 23:48:28 GMT
The Draw for the Acorn Life Under 21 Football Championship All games to be played on Wednesday June 21st @ 7.30pm
Dr Crokes v Bye
Austin Stacks v South Kerry
St Brendans v Dingle
West Kerry v Kerins O Rahillys
An Ghaeltacht v Mid Kerry
East Kerry v Feale Rgs
Shannon Rgs v Kenmare District
St Kierans v Spa
So the games are on the 21st. Is the Leaving Cert even over by then? Throw in the American exodus and some teams will be struggling to field teams. Hard to look beyond East Kerry who have the pick of Kilcummin, Glenflesk, Fossa, Firies, Listry, Gneeveguilla, Legion, Rathmore
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Post by tman59 on Jun 6, 2017 12:50:21 GMT
I taught Spa were with East Kerry. Thank god they are not for every other teams sake.
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Post by tman59 on Jun 22, 2017 10:10:32 GMT
Results from last nights games in the u21 co championship
Mid Kerry 6-11 An Ghaeltacht 1-11
South Kerry 5-15 Austin Stacks 1-5
East Kerry 4-15 Feale Rangers 1-11
Spa 1-13 St Kierans 1-11
Kenmare District WO Shannon Rangers SCR
Dingle WO St Brendans SCR
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Post by kerryfanatic619 on Jun 22, 2017 10:38:39 GMT
An under strength East Kerry team with a comfortable win over a very poor Feale Rangers.
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Post by greengold35 on Jun 22, 2017 13:59:25 GMT
Disappointing to see both Shannon Rangers & St Brendan's give walk overs; the summer exodus to USA is not helping any side but one would think that with 6 clubs from which to choose that they would have fielded a team - a bad season for Rangers given their abysmal performance in the senior championship - one would hope that county board would take a special interest in NK football given how the standards there have dropped again reinforced by Feale Rangers poor display last night. The county board are not entirely blameless either in their quest to have 16 teams in the county championship - no incentive for players in SR to hang around for the summer given that their year was over in 2016 & 2017 before April 1st.
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Post by wideball on Jun 22, 2017 14:43:45 GMT
Disappointing to see both Shannon Rangers & St Brendan's give walk overs; the summer exodus to USA is not helping any side but one would think that with 6 clubs from which to choose that they would have fielded a team - a bad season for Rangers given their abysmal performance in the senior championship - one would hope that county board would take a special interest in NK football given how the standards there have dropped again reinforced by Feale Rangers poor display last night. The county board are not entirely blameless either in their quest to have 16 teams in the county championship - no incentive for players in SR to hang around for the summer given that their year was over in 2016 & 2017 before April 1st. Young fellas aren't going to stay around for just football either, they want jobs more than anything else.
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Post by peanuts on Jun 22, 2017 17:08:30 GMT
Results from last nights games in the u21 co championship Mid Kerry 6-11 An Ghaeltacht 1-11 South Kerry 5-15 Austin Stacks 1-5 East Kerry 4-15 Feale Rangers 1-11 Spa 1-13 St Kierans 1-11 Kenmare District WO Shannon Rangers SCR Dingle WO St Brendans SCR West Kerry v KOR is on tonight according to the main website
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Post by tman59 on Jun 22, 2017 19:46:43 GMT
An under strength East Kerry team with a comfortable win over a very poor Feale Rangers. Who were East Kerry without? I was at St Kieran's v Spa played in brosna. St Kieran's down a few players but spa were without 6 starters a man next to me was telling us. Including all Ireland minor winners Dara Moynihan , Liam Kearney , Daniel O Donoghue and Michael Foley. Good game spa got goal last kick of game to win it.
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Post by onlykerry on Jun 22, 2017 19:50:14 GMT
KOR beat West Kerry tonight in another high scoring game. That is 27 goals in 5 games played in first round.
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Post by greengold35 on Jun 22, 2017 20:54:17 GMT
KOR beat West Kerry tonight in another high scoring game. That is 27 goals in 5 games played in first round. Good win for Rahillys who were without David Murphy, Cormac Coffey, Gavin O'Brien & Diarmuid O'Sullivan all medal winners in 2015 - tough game ahead vs Crokes though.
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Post by keane on Jun 22, 2017 21:52:09 GMT
KOR beat West Kerry tonight in another high scoring game. That is 27 goals in 5 games played in first round. Good win for Rahillys who were without David Murphy, Cormac Coffey, Gavin O'Brien & Diarmuid O'Sullivan all medal winners in 2015 - tough game ahead vs Crokes though. Who played well?
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Post by onlykerry on Jun 23, 2017 1:27:03 GMT
Quarter Final line up - scheduled for Wednesday of next week.
Spa V Kenmare District
Dingle V Mid Kerry
Dr Crokes V Kerins O'Rahillys
East Kerry V South Kerry
Kenmare, Dingle, Crokes and E Kerry would be the fancies - depending on player availability.
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Post by greengold35 on Jun 23, 2017 6:30:43 GMT
Good win for Rahillys who were without David Murphy, Cormac Coffey, Gavin O'Brien & Diarmuid O'Sullivan all medal winners in 2015 - tough game ahead vs Crokes though. Who played well? Karl Mullins @ centre back was outstanding, Tom Hoare, Gearoid Dillane, Gazza Savage & Daniel Nix all played well.
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Post by kerryfanatic619 on Jun 23, 2017 7:47:29 GMT
An under strength East Kerry team with a comfortable win over a very poor Feale Rangers. Who were East Kerry without? I was at St Kieran's v Spa played in brosna. St Kieran's down a few players but spa were without 6 starters a man next to me was telling us. Including all Ireland minor winners Dara Moynihan , Liam Kearney , Daniel O Donoghue and Michael Foley. Good game spa got goal last kick of game to win it. Players missing included Darren Brosnan, Padraig de brun, Lee o Donoghue, Ronan Buckley and Philip Casey.
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Post by sidelined on Jun 23, 2017 9:12:37 GMT
west Kerry without an gaeltacht and dingle, only 3 teams to pick from in fairness did well to field a team maybe other teams could put in same effort in fielding teams
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Post by lár na páirce on Jun 23, 2017 9:50:08 GMT
Anyone care to talk about the fact Kerry senior management only permitted players to play 30 mins in this competition or that Kerry minors were grounded. as reported by the Kerryman
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Post by greengold35 on Jun 23, 2017 10:03:31 GMT
Anyone care to talk about the fact Kerry senior management only permitted players to play 30 mins in this competition or that Kerry minors were grounded. as reported by the Kerryman The minors I can understand given the closeness of the Munster final and a guaranteed 1/4 final slot - after all it's an U-21 competition. The decision to allow senior panellists play 30 mins is an insult to players, management & the county board - as we have seen many times already this year ( Ballydonoghue having to play without O' Seanacháin & Foley in NK U-21 final because they were playing internal game with Kerry seniors) , the county board has no authority in these matters, the respective bainisteoiri being all powerful & calling the shots. Players should be allowed play with their divisions/clubs or else cancel the competition.
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Post by onlykerry on Jun 23, 2017 13:02:05 GMT
I have commented in the past that the U21 competition comes across as one there is little enthusiasm for at admin level. Timing stinks with so many away and the leaving cert still running.
Allowing super divisions makes it even less attractive for lads to stick around - draw E Kerry in round 1 and you have given up your summer for nothing.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jun 23, 2017 13:35:06 GMT
East kerry have been discussed on here before but I'll say it again-they have made a sham of this competition. I don't understand why some of the senior clubs in the division can't have joined together- like rathmore and kilcummin used to just to stop one team being overly strong
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Post by tman59 on Jun 23, 2017 17:32:19 GMT
East kerry have been discussed on here before but I'll say it again-they have made a sham of this competition. I don't understand why some of the senior clubs in the division can't have joined together- like rathmore and kilcummin used to just to stop one team being overly strong That's what they did, they took spa away from East Kerry? If you look at east Kerry's team last Wednesday. It was nothing special.
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Post by piggott on Jun 23, 2017 17:48:47 GMT
East Kerry will meet a very strong South Kerry team on Wednesday night. No foregone conclusion that they will win.Spa and Dr Crokes a big loss to East Kerry.
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