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Post by fitz on Jun 4, 2017 13:38:25 GMT
He is a liability, frequency increasing. Super player but he seems unable to control frustration most players have to suck up. He will only get more attention going forward. A red card in the business end games of August/Sep would likely cost the team the match. How much longer can/will Gavin persist with the risk?
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 4, 2017 14:26:08 GMT
Fine game of Rugby League between Armagh and Down!
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Post by ddtinexile on Jun 4, 2017 14:59:10 GMT
Puke football at its best....horrible stuff.
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Post by glengael on Jun 5, 2017 12:25:32 GMT
I checked the rules section on the GAA website and the sitaution is pretty clear.
The question, as was said earlier, is whether the GAA will act or not. However, inconsistency is part of their DNA. If they fail to act in this case, I think it will look as it they're giving players permission to disrespect match officials and their decisions. Anyone who steps out of line later in the summer has a ready made precedent to fall back on. I don't know how the games will survive if that's allowed to happen.
As it is I honestly don't know how anyone tries to coach young people about 'respect' in GAA these days and keeps a straight face.
It doesn't seem to be that big of a deal though. John Fogarty in the Examiner, who had plenty to say on discipline last week, doesn't see fit to mention the Connolly incident in his match report, at least in the on-line version.
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Post by kot on Jun 5, 2017 12:35:29 GMT
Considering he got off in an All Ireland Semi after punching a fella on the ground in 2015 when it was spotted by the officials, cant see how an incident not reported is going to get him in hot water this time.
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Post by fivenarow on Jun 5, 2017 13:13:19 GMT
It's a joke at this stage, how many times does he have to get into trouble before they will take serious action that will be upheld after 3 appeals. He should get a mario ballotelli tshirt thay says "why always me"?? It's a game they were always going to win so just cop on & why bother getting into hassle. I fear for this guy once the career finishes.
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Post by glengael on Jun 5, 2017 14:05:32 GMT
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Post by Aodhan on Jun 6, 2017 17:08:24 GMT
Connolly has received a proposed 12 week suspension. Dublin expected to appeal.
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Post by buck02 on Jun 6, 2017 18:02:13 GMT
Connolly has received a proposed 12 week suspension. Dublin expected to appeal. And some of the top barristers in the country will be paid handsomely to get him off. And they will too.
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Post by greengold35 on Jun 6, 2017 18:13:36 GMT
Connolly has received a proposed 12 week suspension. Dublin expected to appeal. This might just be what Gavin wants - unable to control him themselves they ( Dublin GAA) might accept the ban and move on - cannot always be seen to defend the indefensible.
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Post by fivenarow on Jun 6, 2017 18:18:43 GMT
Connolly has received a proposed 12 week suspension. Dublin expected to appeal. And some of the top barristers in the country will be paid handsomely to get him off. And they will too. He needs to talk to joe, the holy one 😇 with the biggest mouth of them all as he knows everything
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Post by onlykerry on Jun 6, 2017 19:01:52 GMT
Connolly has received a proposed 12 week suspension. Dublin expected to appeal. This might just be what Gavin wants - unable to control him themselves they ( Dublin GAA) might accept the ban and move on - cannot always be seen to defend the indefensible. Would be great to see a county board row in behind the concept of respect for officials and accept the ruling - however I wait to see if this will actually happen.
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 6, 2017 19:16:21 GMT
I only saw the youtube clip and it seemed awfully like the incident with Galvin in 2008 when he reacted after getting no protection from the linesman.
What i could never understand was how Galvin in 2008 and now Connolly got into this type of situation against the small teams when the result was not at stake. Tomas v Limerick in 2010 was example of an unnecessary suspension....no matter what the provocation....the result wasnt in doubt.
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Post by veteran on Jun 6, 2017 19:24:47 GMT
Does anybody know what precisely the Tipp goalie is alleged to have done . Has there been any attempt by the Tipp county board to appeal the decision? There isn't much time now with the Cork match on Saturday. Any putative appeal by Dublin will be very interesting in the context of the Tipp player's similar offence. It is a tricky one for the GAA.
Incidentally, how long did Paul Galvin serve for his interference with the referee? I cannot recall.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2017 19:28:38 GMT
Does anybody know what precisely the Tipp goalie is alleged to have done . Has there been any attempt by the Tipp county board to appeal the decision? There isn't much time now with the Cork match on Saturday. Any putative appeal by Dublin will be very interesting in the context of the Tipp player's similar offence. It is a tricky one for the GAA. Incidentally, how long did Paul Galvin serve for his interference with the referee? I cannot recall. Think he was suspended initially for 24 weeks which was then reduced to 12.
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 6, 2017 19:28:54 GMT
He got 6 months but twas reduced to 3 on appeal. He wasnt allowed train with kerry during the term of the suspension. The gaa exceeded their powers with their six months ban. You could hardly move with the kangsroos in the cccc back then
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2017 19:37:14 GMT
I only saw the youtube clip and it seemed awfully like the incident with Galvin in 2008 when he reacted after getting no protection from the linesman. What i could never understand was how Galvin in 2008 and now Connolly got into this type of situation against the small teams when the result was not at stake. Tomas v Limerick in 2010 was example of an unnecessary suspension....no matter what the provocation....the result wasnt in doubt. This was just an argument over a sideline ball. Funnily enough the pointing and verbals towards the linesman to me is actually worse than the physical contact.
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Post by dart on Jun 6, 2017 19:51:00 GMT
Teams going for three in a row have a habit of losing wing forwards to long suspensions.
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Post by thebluepanther on Jun 6, 2017 20:17:01 GMT
Teams going for three in a row have a habit of losing wing forwards to long suspensions. I was just remarking on this yesterday.
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Post by southward on Jun 6, 2017 20:36:23 GMT
Does anybody know what precisely the Tipp goalie is alleged to have done . Has there been any attempt by the Tipp county board to appeal the decision? There isn't much time now with the Cork match on Saturday. Any putative appeal by Dublin will be very interesting in the context of the Tipp player's similar offence. It is a tricky one for the GAA. Incidentally, how long did Paul Galvin serve for his interference with the referee? I cannot recall. As far as I know, it was the Co Board themselves that suspended him on this occasion.
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Post by peanuts on Jun 6, 2017 20:36:24 GMT
It's a difficult one for the GAA. On the face of it a 12 week ban is excessive for the incident itself but going by the rule book its clearcut and what message would it send to prospective referees if Connolly didn't get a ban. Its far from a done deal as well according to a certain barrister from Derry. One thing that does annoy me though is people suggesting that he was being manhandled/provoked by the Carlow players. This type of incident happens in every game especially if a player is pulled for over carrying but most players do not react as Connolly did.
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Post by southward on Jun 6, 2017 21:51:16 GMT
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 6, 2017 22:05:40 GMT
It will be interesting to see if the skippys have dotted their eyes and crossed their teas or will the glass slipper get another waltz. #baitedbreath!
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 6, 2017 22:07:23 GMT
A donkey never loses it's cross.
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Post by givehimaball on Jun 7, 2017 16:13:24 GMT
Stats from the Dublin Carlow game from Dont Foul No surprise that Dublin got so much joy from the Carlow kickout - Whatever strategy they were using was a disaster - the number of times it was kicked long straight to a Dublin back was unbelievable. The stat about Connolly shooting 1 from 4 ties in with a tweet Dont Foul had about him Wouldn't be the first time that a player having a poor game got stroppy.
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Post by beantownfan on Jun 7, 2017 19:00:16 GMT
To be honest, I think given that Dublin Co. Board have said that it is up to Dermo to decide if he wants to appeal it that they are loosing their appetite for defending him? Its a no win for them.. If he gets off he will be targeted 10 times more! I didn't see a whole pile of sympathy for P Galvin a few years back when he was being blackguarded high up and low down, for this one I am just going to sit back.. The less said the better.
On a side note I think the media and social media is making our games a bit too intense, a lot of the stuff is off putting. Papers just re-hashing the same arguments over and over. Some of the comments I see online about ammeter players is frightening. I saw on one thread this morning on fb, Eamonn and Brendan O'Sullivan being blasted from a high as if some how RTE were going after Connolly to put "Kerry on the back burner", crazy sh^te altogether.. I know 85% of the folks commenting on these various things are pretty luke warm "fans" at best, but it has to affect lads sooner or later.
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 7, 2017 19:37:49 GMT
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 7, 2017 20:09:03 GMT
That effort by Brolly was written before he realized that the ref put it into his match report that Dermo pushed the linesman.
This fact means that the CCCC were within their rights to sanction Dermo and it makes an appeal virtually unwinnable.
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Post by Jo90 on Jun 8, 2017 8:08:18 GMT
That effort by Brolly was written before he realized that the ref put it into his match report that Dermo pushed the linesman. This fact means that the CCCC were within their rights to sanction Dermo and it makes an appeal virtually unwinnable. Nothing's unwinnable when you've the most expensive legal team since OJ Simpson's dream team. They can prove that since Connolly was wearing gloves he didn't technically lay a hand on the linesman - "if the glove did the hit, you must acquit".
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Post by buck02 on Jun 8, 2017 8:30:37 GMT
That effort by Brolly was written before he realized that the ref put it into his match report that Dermo pushed the linesman. This fact means that the CCCC were within their rights to sanction Dermo and it makes an appeal virtually unwinnable. Nothing's unwinnable when you've the most expensive legal team since OJ Simpson's dream team. They can prove that since Connolly was wearing gloves he didn't technically lay a hand on the linesman - "if the glove did the hit, you must acquit". Excellent RTE to commission a 10 part series in 2018??? The People vs Diarmiud Connolly
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