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Post by keephercountry on May 1, 2017 11:10:39 GMT
It like moving the deck chairs on the titanic, same result. New York, Wicklow, Longford ,Clare, Carlow, Sligo, Waterford, Antrim to name a few should not be competing for the same trophy as the top 10 teams. It ridiculous. All to be justified that in a one off game their might be a giant killing. Players aren't stupid and with the demands of the modern intercounty footballer arent buying into it. With the result that Dublin,Kerry, Mayo,Donegal, Monaghon, Tyrone guys are training hard and moving further ahead of the weaker counties. Monaghon are the beacon to every small county that progress is attainable, but it's really an outdated championship format. Longford knocked out Monaghan last summer!
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Post by Mickmack on May 1, 2017 17:41:22 GMT
It like moving the deck chairs on the titanic, same result. New York, Wicklow, Longford ,Clare, Carlow, Sligo, Waterford, Antrim to name a few should not be competing for the same trophy as the top 10 teams. It ridiculous. All to be justified that in a one off game their might be a giant killing. Players aren't stupid and with the demands of the modern intercounty footballer arent buying into it. With the result that Dublin,Kerry, Mayo,Donegal, Monaghon, Tyrone guys are training hard and moving further ahead of the weaker counties. Monaghon are the beacon to every small county that progress is attainable, but it's really an outdated championship format. If you were given a free hand what system would you go with
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Post by An Bradán on May 1, 2017 19:48:51 GMT
Don't burst my bubble..... Seriously the excitement and anticipation of a game where the result matters cannot be beaten and the provincials bring that additional layer of fun to every season. Heading to Killarney or Pairc Ui Chaoimhe for a head to head with the old enemy with a cup at stake (not to mind the bragging rights) is irreplaceable. No amount of round robin games can come close. Hey Only I am looking for a revamp where every game does matter. At present about 50% of games generate little or no excitement. We have a decent product but market it appallingly. The better teams need to be clashing in games that matter. The developing counties need to have a chance to win a national trophy and earn their place at the top table. I started off this thread to see what people could come up with as it is generally accepted by the vast majority of fans that the current system is not serving players, supporters or the game itself.
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on May 1, 2017 20:09:17 GMT
Needs to be a meaningful knockout component. Losing that would lose a large element of what was great about intercounty. League competition in late spring into the start of summer. Provincials in early spring. Short championship in late summer. Scrap Walsh Cup etc. Maybe base championship/knockout on winners of provincials and top 4 of Lg1, top 2 of Lg2, and winners of 3+4.
Now of course winners of provincials will also likely be in top few of league tables, but it can be worked out into a workable number gives 2 chances to get in top championship tier. B Champ for teams that don't make Sam Champ.
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Post by thebluepanther on May 1, 2017 20:59:25 GMT
It like moving the deck chairs on the titanic, same result. New York, Wicklow, Longford, Clare, Carlow, Sligo, Waterford, Antrim to name a few should not be competing for the same trophy as the top 10 teams. It ridiculous. All to be justified that in a one off game their might be a giant killing.
Players aren't stupid and with the demands of the modern intercounty footballer arent buying into it. With the result that Dublin,Kerry, Mayo,Donegal, Monaghon, Tyrone guys are training hard and moving further ahead of the weaker counties. Monaghon.are the beacon to every small county that progress is attainable, but it's really an outdated championship format. Longford knocked out Monaghan last summer! Fair point , but that was the giant killing. ,The qualiers to be fair can throw up a few unexpected results. Sometimes though it's the turnaround for counties who have just lost a big game like Monaghon had that produces these results.
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Post by thebluepanther on May 1, 2017 21:49:23 GMT
It like moving the deck chairs on the titanic, same result. New York, Wicklow, Longford ,Clare, Carlow, Sligo, Waterford, Antrim to name a few should not be competing for the same trophy as the top 10 teams. It ridiculous. All to be justified that in a one off game their might be a giant killing. Players aren't stupid and with the demands of the modern intercounty footballer arent buying into it. With the result that Dublin,Kerry, Mayo,Donegal, Monaghon, Tyrone guys are training hard and moving further ahead of the weaker counties. Monaghon are the beacon to every small county that progress is attainable, but it's really an outdated championship format. If you were given a free hand what system would you go with League basis for me makes the best sense. But because of our long history with championship it mightnt be a runner. A very competitive League has just finished and now we are faced with a 2 month period of mismatches . We will get the odd decent game , but few and far between. I'll be interested in the super 8 to see how it fairs out, but a league format is the fairest and allows weaker counties to train for something that's attainable. Imagine Liverpool having to play Tranmere and Southport every year in a knockout competition in Merseyside. Manchester United playing Bury and Oldham in a Greater Manchester competition. They dont because the teams are graded . Kerry v Waterford or Dublin v Wicklow are very hard games to stir the interest for even the most diehard fan. Even a champion league style format won't do away with that potential.
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Post by Ard Mhacha on May 1, 2017 22:34:54 GMT
Don't burst my bubble..... Seriously the excitement and anticipation of a game where the result matters cannot be beaten and the provincials bring that additional layer of fun to every season. Heading to Killarney or Pairc Ui Chaoimhe for a head to head with the old enemy with a cup at stake (not to mind the bragging rights) is irreplaceable. No amount of round robin games can come close. Hey Only I am looking for a revamp where every game does matter. At present about 50% of games generate little or no excitement. We have a decent product but market it appallingly. The better teams need to be clashing in games that matter. The developing counties need to have a chance to win a national trophy and earn their place at the top table. I started off this thread to see what people could come up with as it is generally accepted by the vast majority of fans that the current system is not serving players, supporters or the game itself. I'd go further. I'd say 90% of games generate little or no excitement. Straight knock out, one match. Winner takes all. 16 or 32 teams. We need potentially big games throughout, not just the big guns going through the motions until August. Dublin travelling to Donegal, Kerry to Mayo etc. The c'ship needs a firework up it's hole.
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Post by An Bradán on May 2, 2017 11:31:59 GMT
But teams need more than one game a year Ard. I want a shortened series of high octane games with teams of equal quality going at it hammer and tongs.
Overall the current system is not working and it's a reflection of the current state of affairs where the league is now viewed as providing better balanced contests overall than the lop sided championship.
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Post by Ard Mhacha on May 2, 2017 15:08:49 GMT
But teams need more than one game a year Ard. Play the first round over two legs. That's at least two games for everyone, and everyone gets a home game.
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Post by Ballyfireside on May 2, 2017 16:04:54 GMT
I may be off point here but can anyone advise what additional channels (to RTE1/2 & TG4) does one need to get all games, inc Sat nights! As much as I love to see weaker counties progress, I don't want to be deprived of feasting my eyes on the greatest footballers God ever made.
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Post by Ard Mhacha on May 2, 2017 21:44:15 GMT
I may be off point here but can anyone advise what additional channels (to RTE1/2 & TG4) does one need to get all games, inc Sat nights! As much as I love to see weaker counties progress, I don't want to be deprived of feasting my eyes on the greatest footballers God ever made. But they've all retired! Weaker counties have some top footballers too, ya know. And some top teams, weak footballers.
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Post by Ballyfireside on May 2, 2017 22:48:43 GMT
I may be off point here but can anyone advise what additional channels (to RTE1/2 & TG4) does one need to get all games, inc Sat nights! As much as I love to see weaker counties progress, I don't want to be deprived of feasting my eyes on the greatest footballers God ever made. But they've all retired! Weaker counties have some top footballers too, ya know. And some top teams, weak footballers. Ah man soften up and have pity of a poor auld lad looking for a bit of help! I'd be a fan of Bellew and a few more of ye, now com'on, and Armagh weak -unlikely!
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Post by An Bradán on May 2, 2017 23:20:52 GMT
Bally who knows at this stage.
RTE Eir Sky Sports something UTV ? BBC ?
Is that it ?
It a load of oul' u you know what. All games should.be on teresstrial tv and accessible to all.
About time RTE, TG4 and TV3 combined to launch a dedicated sports channel. If they did I would have no problem paying a reasonable annual sub. The Kerry vs Dub game in Tralee really highlighted the farce the splintered tv coverage has become.
Rant over.
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Post by Ballyfireside on May 3, 2017 3:50:29 GMT
Yip, I'm scared after missing Kerry v Dubs and Dgal v Tyrone, with Eir. BBC/UTV do Ulster, and RTE1/2/TG4 do Sundays, so Sat night is the issue.
Eir just piggyback Sky -so will one Sky channel cover all? Vodafone TV have now included Sky Sports but they couldn't yet tell me re channels.
Ah surely someone on here will help us out.
Exciting or what!
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Post by kerryexile on May 3, 2017 7:17:57 GMT
Bally who knows at this stage. RTE Eir Sky Sports something UTV ? BBC ? Is that it ? It a load of oul' u you know what. All games should.be on teresstrial tv and accessible to all. About time RTE, TG4 and TV3 combined to launch a dedicated sports channel. If they did I would have no problem paying a reasonable annual sub. The Kerry vs Dub game in Tralee really highlighted the farce the splintered tv coverage has become. Rant over. Is there a precedent for rival channels combining to form a dedicated sports channel? If they did submit a joint bid and split the games according viewers numbers it would be great.
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Post by Ard Mhacha on May 3, 2017 8:15:05 GMT
But they've all retired! Weaker counties have some top footballers too, ya know. And some top teams, weak footballers. Ah man soften up and have pity of a poor auld lad looking for a bit of help! I'd be a fan of Bellew and a few more of ye, now com'on, and Armagh weak -unlikely! Well now, I never actually said we were weak
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Post by Annascaultilidie on May 3, 2017 9:09:56 GMT
All games should.be on teresstrial tv and accessible to all. Second Captains were talking about how television and the GAA only recently became bedfellows.
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Post by Ballyfireside on May 3, 2017 11:34:38 GMT
Any feckin chance of an answer to my question comrades?
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Post by keane on May 3, 2017 11:51:33 GMT
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Post by buck02 on May 3, 2017 11:58:55 GMT
We all should be provided with high speed broadband for free and then people could illegally stream any game they want.
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Post by onlykerry on May 3, 2017 13:55:08 GMT
Any feckin chance of an answer to my question comrades? I guess from the lack of replies that nobody is too sure - plus it can change from season to season as bid packages go out for allocation. With youngsters in a house the PC is always the best option as they seem to be able to find everything and anything regardless of who is officially broadcasting it.
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Post by An Bradán on May 3, 2017 14:15:39 GMT
All games should.be on teresstrial tv and accessible to all. Second Captains were talking about how television and the GAA only recently became bedfellows. Nearly getting nostalgic for Mick Dunne roaring it's a gooooaaal, it's a goooooaaaaaal The good ol' bad ol' days. Highlights of provincial finals and then the semi finals and final and that was pretty much it for years. Wasn't life very simple and very boring back then.
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Post by An Bradán on May 3, 2017 14:27:07 GMT
Bally who knows at this stage. RTE Eir Sky Sports something UTV ? BBC ? Is that it ? It a load of oul' u you know what. All games should.be on teresstrial tv and accessible to all. About time RTE, TG4 and TV3 combined to launch a dedicated sports channel. If they did I would have no problem paying a reasonable annual sub. The Kerry vs Dub game in Tralee really highlighted the farce the splintered tv coverage has become. Rant over. Is there a precedent for rival channels combining to form a dedicated sports channel? If they did submit a joint bid and split the games according viewers numbers it would be great. Wouldn't it make a helluva lot of sense. Gaelic games are of huge interest to people living on this island. TG4, TV3 and RTE have all separately shown themselves very capable of broadcasting gaelic games (certain co-commentators / pundits apart) but none have the finances on their own to buy up all the rights. Meanwhile Billy, Bob and Mary cannot see all the games on tv as it is so splintered and expensive to cover all angles. But sure they are only the typical fools that keep clubs running up and down the country. Most unfair I say. Also fans abroad could subscribe to my proposed Gaelic Games Channel and not miss out either. Like the meerkat said.....siiiimples. All we need now is for three wise heads to come together and agree it all. A dedicated channel like this would be worth paying a few bob for every year would ye not think. As for illegal streaming of games on the net.....well I've heard it said from a friend that it can be frustrating and not always easy to do. Plus it's awfully bad behaviour
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Post by Annascaultilidie on May 3, 2017 17:35:10 GMT
In a choice between Tommy Carr getting the sack and no games being put on TV I'd take my chances with no TV.
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Post by Ard Mhacha on May 3, 2017 17:59:06 GMT
Second Captains were talking about how television and the GAA only recently became bedfellows. Nearly getting nostalgic for Mick Dunne roaring it's a gooooaaal, it's a goooooaaaaaal The good ol' bad ol' days. Highlights of provincial finals and then the semi finals and final and that was pretty much it for years. Wasn't life very simple and very boring back then. I think there's too much live football these days. We didn't seem as critical of the game years ago, perhaps because we only seen the highlights and the brutal bits were missed. I recall a squad of us gathered around the radio listening to big c'ship games come summer. Not a word spoken, the commentators voice filling the summer air. Or out for the day, and hearing Michael O'M's unmistakable voice booming from a car speaker. What's the score? How longs left? Jaysus, that sounds like a cracker (probably a stinker though). Can't wait to see the highlights on the TSG. Ah, those were the days.
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Post by Ballyfireside on May 4, 2017 0:48:50 GMT
Any feckin chance of an answer to my question comrades? I guess from the lack of replies that nobody is too sure - plus it can change from season to season as bid packages go out for allocation. With youngsters in a house the PC is always the best option as they seem to be able to find everything and anything regardless of who is officially broadcasting it. Now you are wan man I'm not goin to fall out with, and you do what them kids tell you so they don't let us down! So I take it carve up hasn't been announced yet?
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