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Post by taggert on Mar 17, 2017 21:45:03 GMT
If one didnt know Kerry were in transition, one definitely knows now. The chopping and changing and positional switches is never ending and has the feel of deck chairs being moved around the titanic.
The harsh reality is that we are some distance between 2 great teams - the last one is gone and the next one (hopefully!) is pending the coming of age of the 3 great minor teams...
Odds on Dublin win tomorrow.
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Post by An Bradán on Mar 17, 2017 22:14:14 GMT
I'd expect 3/4 u21's to be in the mix come the summer. Pity they're not here for this one.
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Post by veteran on Mar 17, 2017 22:56:18 GMT
Paul Murphy back on the forty. Ideas appear to be drying up. It is very unlikely that the monstrosity we witnessed in the second half will be erased from the mind by the efforts of this team.
Perhaps , Dublin will save football from,becoming extinct. My dearest wish for tomorrow night is.not that Kerry win but that that we are provided with some hope that this football code can be redeemed. The future of the game is far more important than victory for any particular tribe. Only Dr . Crokes supporters could,garner solace from from today's exhibition masquerading as football.
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Post by gbbuei on Mar 18, 2017 0:53:05 GMT
Have Dublin announced a team If this is what actually starts but this is what's named anyway - 1. Cluxton 2. McMahon 3. Fitzsimons 4. Byrne 5. Daly 6. Small 7. Lowndes 8. Fenton 9. MacAuley 10. Scully 11. Rock 12. Carthy 13. Kilkenny 14. O'Gara 15. McHugh
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Mar 18, 2017 7:49:05 GMT
Brave selection by both coaches. Kerry look like going for a decisive counter-attack approach, very physical in defense, lots of hard running on the break especially, Monaghan and Mayo came closest to beating Dublin last year playing that sort of game, Kerry have better forwards than both of those. If they take their chances then it boils down to Dublin having the hunger for it, and the newer/recently more peripheral lads being up to it. I also expect Kerry to very much target Dean Rock for attention. Should be a great contest.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 9:07:51 GMT
JOD out is a big loss, played very well v Roscommon. Anyone know how serious injury is?
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Post by southward on Mar 18, 2017 10:47:52 GMT
JOD's been injured more often than he's been fit the past few years. He's not the only one either; it's become a recurring theme with Kerry.
Why is it that with the increasing proliferation of sports scientists, physios, medical technology, professional diets/lifestyles etc, we seem to be getting more injuries than ever?
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 18, 2017 10:49:26 GMT
Since I am so * at making predictions I am going to make another and say that I think Dublin are going to win. We are setting up far too defensively and inviting them onto us.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Mar 18, 2017 11:06:34 GMT
Kerry V Dublin – Allianz Football League Round 5 Saturday 18/3/2017 The Kerry Senior Football Team to play Dublin in Round 5 of the Allianz Football League in Austin Stack Park on Saturday evening at 7pm shows 2 changes in personnel from the side that defeated Roscommon in Round 4. Mark Griffin returns to the defence in place of Paul Murphy who moves up front where he is joined by Adrian Spillane in place of Barry John Keane and the injured James O’Donoghue. The team captained by Peter Crowley is as follows: Ciarraí 1 Brendan Kealy Kilcummin 2 Shane Enright Tarbert 3 Mark Griffin St Michaels-Foilmore 4 Ronan Shanahan Austin Stacks 5 Peter Crowley (C) Laune Rangers 6 Tadhg Morley Templenoe 7 Killian Young Renard 8 David Moran Kerins O’Rahillys 9 Jack Barry Na Gaeil 10 Adrian Spillane Templenoe 11 Paul Murphy Rathmore 12 Donnchadh Walsh Cromane 13 Kevin McCarthy Kilcummin 14 Paul Geaney Dingle 15 Jack Savage Kerins O’Rahillys Fir Ionaid: 16 Brian Kelly Killarney Legion 17 Barry John Keane Kerins O’Rahillys 18 Jonathan Lyne Killarney Legion 19 Anthony Maher Duagh 20 Stephen O’Brien Kenmare 21 Darren O’Sullivan Glenbeigh-Glencar 22 Michael Geaney Dingle 23 Bryan Sheehan St Marys 24 Cathal Ó Lúing An Ghaeltacht 25 Denis Daly St Marys 26 Gavin Crowley Templenoe 27 Conor Keane Killarney Legion Bainistíocht Bainisteóir: Eamonn Fitzmaurice (Finuge) Róghnóirí: Mikey Sheehy (Austin Stacks), Padraig Corcoran (Dingle), Liam Hassett (Laune Rangers), Maurice Fitzgerald (St Marys). Disappointed by this team to be honest. Feels like an exercise in damage limitation. Hope I'm wrong but it very hard to get excited by the Kerry team at the moment when our first thought is to contain rather that to attack.
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Post by glengael on Mar 18, 2017 11:12:00 GMT
Is the match on some channel ?
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Post by Kingdomson on Mar 18, 2017 11:45:20 GMT
Looks like we're set up to avoid a hiding here this evening at the very least, and if we avoid that hiding we’ll be doing well. Dublin will almost certainly win this game but its how the Kerry team perform and how some of our ‘new comers’ do in a baptism of fire that’s so important for Kerry going forward.
The scary thing about Dublin is they too are actually in transition but such is their level of consistency no one is using that term. Players who have been in and around the panel for a number of years and are the right age profile are being bedded in. Gavin is doing a Brian Cody and will reap the benefits come the summer because fortune so often favours the brave. Come the summer it's possible some serious big game Dublin performers could be moving from starters to being impact players from the bench. A scary thought!
Brain Fenton is player of the year in waiting in my book and his just getting better and better. Yes, in their last league game, Mayo were pathetic but Fenton’s performance reminded me again that evening of no one less than Jack O’ in his prime and I can think of no higher praise. Fenton was here, there and everywhere, pulling down skyscrapers under the crossbar in defence or rampaging into attack. We have no midfielder to match his dynamism even if Moran is at his best tonight; Fenton is better and getting better. 1 to 2 years from now and Mark O’Connor was a potential antidote to Fenton which makes his departure such a huge blow for Kerry football. Jack Barry instead? Time will tell in the long run but not tonight.
I’ve no doubt we’ll get a brave performance from Kerry this evening and if that performance shows further promise of better days to come then even better!
Up the Kingdom!
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Post by onlykerry on Mar 18, 2017 11:46:53 GMT
JOD's been injured more often than he's been fit the past few years. He's not the only one either; it's become a recurring theme with Kerry. Why is it that with the increasing proliferation of sports scientists, physios, medical technology, professional diets/lifestyles etc, we seem to be getting more injuries than ever? The human body is unique and not a machine that is mass produced. Injuries have been an ever present problem but due to the level of preparation and intensity at which the game is played it is more evident. You can not get away with playing carrying a niggle or a knock. The injury situation is prevalent across many sports.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 12:09:01 GMT
It isn't that bad a team but I think they will play very defensively. I don't think it's a dummy team. Paul Murphy back in the forwards. I hope that he picks up Kilkenny. He's a serious player and Murphy is the best option for him. I have my doubts about Shanahan. He will definitely be tested today. Barry too . A good test for him. They can't let Fenton get on the ball and control midfield. He's a great player so they can't give him space . Kerry I think will bring McCarthy and Savage out and try and isolate Geaney. The problem with that is McMahon and Byrne will love it and drive forward along with Small Lowndes and Daly and put pressure on our backs and who will pick up the runners. I think Dublin will start that 15. They have great subs to bring in Andrews and McManamon . Is Brogan on the bench ? Rumor he is back training.
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Post by sullyschoice on Mar 18, 2017 12:45:36 GMT
I fear the worst.
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Post by kerryboy83 on Mar 18, 2017 12:58:18 GMT
If one didnt know Kerry were in transition, one definitely knows now. The chopping and changing and positional switches is never ending and has the feel of deck chairs being moved around the titanic. The harsh reality is that we are some distance between 2 great teams - the last one is gone and the next one (hopefully!) is pending the coming of age of the 3 great minor teams... Odds on Dublin win tomorrow. What odds would you put on Dublin taggert?
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Post by nk1 on Mar 18, 2017 13:14:34 GMT
It may well be a bad night for kerry football , I am only hoping the conditions make it difficult for everyone and be a leveller , if we did win ,Jesus we will be buzzing ! We live in hope
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 18, 2017 13:31:06 GMT
I think we are waving the white flag with that line up. That is a Dublin forward line that we should be able to deal with. We are going to invite them onto us and when we break there is going to be nobody up the pitch to receive the ball and link with whoever --- if any --- is inside.
We are at home, we should be looking to dominate and play up the pitch. I would much rather that Kerry played with six forwards and let the backs and midfield handle the forwards.
Our half-forwards should be trying to help in the middle third but I suppose they will be on our forty.
This is a surrender of the same type as withdrawing Geaney in 2016. Negative and a loser's mentality.
If we have a sports psychologist he should be getting bata agus bothar.
Winners go out and try to win, not try and not lose... winners focus on winning, losers focus on winners, etc.
I know that all of the Kerry set-up are trying their best and I would be loathe to criticise any player or any individual --- I just think we are getting things all wrong in our approach... misguided.
I am not asking necessarily for 15 on 15 and lose with our boots on... I am asking us to go out and try and play proactively rather than reactively.
I feel like we are scarred from 2013 --- we went to take on the Dubs and lost by 7... that was a very good team we had lined out that day, with Gooch at his zenith, but we haven't backed ourselves since... it is like saying sure it didn't work in 2013 it'll never work again... yet we were so close.
We haven't been much closer playing defensively.
The massive exception of course was Donegal in 2014.
A little negative over the whole thing, and although I won't be on here giving out about players and management who are doing their level best, I have to say how things are going doesn't fill me with joy.
Would be delighted to be proved wrong. Delighted.
Good luck to Kerry tonight.
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Post by southward on Mar 18, 2017 13:31:46 GMT
It may well be a bad night for kerry football , I am only hoping the conditions make it difficult for everyone and be a leveller , if we did win ,Jesus we will be buzzing ! We live in hope That's a depressing indictment of our standing in the game.
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Post by Exiled2Dublin on Mar 18, 2017 14:34:30 GMT
Just left Barack Obama Plaza. Wall to wall dub shirts. Exuberance and confidence all round😃😃😃
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Post by kerryexile on Mar 18, 2017 15:03:26 GMT
When you look at the individual matchups I don't think Dublin are as unbeatable as some are making out. I know that they may not start as listed or may take different positions but taking both teams at face value we have a reasonable chance. McHugh, Scully Daly are not exactly names that instill fear.
Mental attitude will be very important. (I hope the players don't read this forum). Barry should be given the freedom of the pitch to take on Fenton, he has nothing to lose and a huge amount to gain. Who ever marks Kilkenny should not take him on for strength which is what he likes because he usually wins. A terrier like approach is needed. Morley can also make a name for himself - Rock can be marked.
I would expect Crowley, Young, Geaney, Enright and Donnchadh to dominate their positions.
If a pattern emerges where Kerry have a grip on the game it is very likely that scorers like Darran and BJK will be brought on early.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 15:18:02 GMT
What's the point in having O'Luing Gavin Crowley and Daly on the bench if they never play them maybe tonight could be their time.
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Post by dbrown on Mar 18, 2017 15:22:04 GMT
Hi, I have two tickets for to nights game Ky vs Dub, at ASP, for face value if collected at Ardfert, or by paying €10 + face value to take to Tralee,, please pm me if interested
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Post by mandad on Mar 18, 2017 15:29:13 GMT
I understand that James got a knock to his calf and that it is a short-term recovery injury. These are injuries that can be picked up very simply in training and whatever. On the other hand, he must be pretty happy that his shoulder problems seem to be sorted out. His confidence will be boosted by that.
With regard to Gooch - on balance I think that it is highly likely that he will announce his retirement. It certainly would not be a surprise to a people whom I would regard as well informed.
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Post by southward on Mar 18, 2017 15:34:47 GMT
I understand that James got a knock to his calf and that it is a short-term recovery injury. These are injuries that can be picked up very simply in training and whatever. On the other hand, he must be pretty happy that his shoulder problems seem to be sorted out. His confidence will be boosted by that. With regard to Gooch - on balance I think that it is highly likely that he will announce his retirement. It certainly would not be a surprise to a people whom I would regard as well informed. Sad but no surprise. I never bought that one about "we'll see after the club championship" You're either up for another year or you're not.
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Post by buck02 on Mar 18, 2017 15:35:28 GMT
The conditions down here today mean that this is likely to be a tough, fairly low-scoring encounter. With the team we have out, Kerry need to turn this into a bit of a dogfight and hope that Dublin have an off-night. Free taking will be vital and Dublin have the upper hand here so that is likely to tilt it in their favour.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Mar 18, 2017 16:05:03 GMT
Is the match on some channel ? GAA Authorities need their arses kicked, neither of two top games live on Eir - they are storing up trouble here, is it how the two top games are on a channel that will get people into pubs for the night, and then the young lads will watch soccer instead, and then play it. And don't tell me it is not the GAA's fault - they are GAA games and HQ signed the contract. Shame on them -free to play made Munster rugby, proven and what do we do, piss on those who made the GAA what it is.
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Post by keane on Mar 18, 2017 16:06:11 GMT
For like the fourth time in a row I'm abroad for Kerry v Dublin. Not really expecting much but would be nice to see some teeth.
If we're well beaten I want at least a big row, would accept a couple of red cards quite happily. Let's show a bit of pain at least.
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Post by Kingdomson on Mar 18, 2017 16:16:29 GMT
When you look at the individual matchups I don't think Dublin are as unbeatable as some are making out. I know that they may not start as listed or may take different positions but taking both teams at face value we have a reasonable chance. McHugh, Scully Daly are not exactly names that instill fear. Mental attitude will be very important. (I hope the players don't read this forum). Barry should be given the freedom of the pitch to take on Fenton, he has nothing to lose and a huge amount to gain. Who ever marks Kilkenny should not take him on for strength which is what he likes because he usually wins. A terrier like approach is needed. Morley can also make a name for himself - Rock can be marked. I would expect Crowley, Young, Geaney, Enright and Donnchadh to dominate their positions. If a pattern emerges where Kerry have a grip on the game it is very likely that scorers like Darran and BJK will be brought on early.
Maybe they shouldn't read Tomás O Sé either! Tomás writes, "And here's the other uncomfortable truth for us in Kerry. Right now, we just don't have the players to beat this Dublin team. They are better than us right now. There's no shame in that because this is their best ever team." www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/its-a-big-game-alright-but-its-about-more-than-just-tonight-35542524.htmlLook, I'm not going to argue with Tomás Ó Se and it's not negativity by Tomás or by contributors on here, it's just realism. You live long enough, you realise it generally goes in cycles. Barring a mass talent drain to Oz we should have a very strong Kerry team coming through in the next 2-3 years. Right now, it's Dublin's world and we just live in it and hopefully we continue to show a bit of defiance which in fairness mostly we have always done against Dublin under EF. The result really doesn't matter for me tonight, it really is about seeing some light at the end of a tunnel. PS: From the same article - "I can't help but think we missed a trick over the winter in not bringing Donie Buckley back into the backroom team." Maybe Tomás has been reading veteran!
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Post by kerryexile on Mar 18, 2017 16:31:20 GMT
The conditions down here today mean that this is likely to be a tough, fairly low-scoring encounter. With the team we have out, Kerry need to turn this into a bit of a dogfight and hope that Dublin have an off-night. Free taking will be vital and Dublin have the upper hand here so that is likely to tilt it in their favour. Actually in wet conditions where the standing foot is on soft ground and there may be movement, Rock has a poor record. Maybe Eamonn had the weather in mind when he picked the team - not a night for scorers. If frees become vital maybe Sheehan will be introduced.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 18, 2017 17:37:49 GMT
Is the match on some channel ? I think but not know that it is Eir 2.
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