|
Post by taggert on Mar 3, 2017 20:23:08 GMT
I agree on Maher over Moran. He is more defensively disciplined, makes less errors and uses his size to better effect. He would also better complement someone who is more attack minded like Barry and/or a more unconventional midfield option employed for purposes other than fielding a ball (perish the thought!).
Of course, all caveated on Mahers ability to get 100% fit; Barry confirming he can cut it at this level; Moran continuing to suggest 2014 was a one-season wonder for him; Fitzmaurice being bold enough to try something different as a midfield combo; the management team settling on a goalkeeper who can COMFORTABLY mix long and short and who isnt married to the idea that all kick outs should be contested by the 8's and 9's.
|
|
|
Post by kerrythekingdom on Mar 3, 2017 20:45:36 GMT
Looking back on midfield partnerships that worked for Kerry, apart from 14, we've had a fielder and a runner/workhorse who occasionally did a bit of fielding- eg Darragh & Kirby/Scanlon- even back in the day Jacko had Sean Walsh/Ambrose. The Dubs have it with Fenton & DMC/Denis Bastick - Jack Barry looks closest right now to work with Maher/Moran but Griffin might work there - he might be a bit short
|
|
|
Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Mar 3, 2017 21:03:49 GMT
The Kerry Senior Football Team to play Roscommon in Round 4 of the Allianz Football League in Hyde Park Roscommon on Sunday at 2pm shows 2 changes in personnel from the side defeated by Monaghan Round 3.
Killian Young takes over at full back in place of Mark Griffin while Paul Murphy is restored to the defence and up front Donnchadh Walsh returns after a one match suspension with Barry John Keane starting in the corner – Jonathan Lyne is the player to lose out.
In the subs, Denis Daly and Conor Keane come into the match day squad in place of Brendan O’Sullivan and the suspended Bryan Sheehan.
The team captained by Peter Crowley is as follows:
Ciarraí
1. Brendan KealyKilcummin
2. Shane EnrightTarbert
3. Killian Young Renard
4. Ronan ShanahanAustin Stacks
5. Peter Crowley(C)Laune Rangers
6. Tadhg MorleyTemplenoe
7. Paul MurphyRathmore
8. David MoranKerins O’Rahillys
9. Jack BarryNa Gaeil
10. Kevin McCarthyKilcummin
11. Jack SavageKerins O’Rahillys
12. Donnchadh WalshCromane
13. Barry John Keane Kerins O’Rahillys
14. Paul GeaneyDingle
15. James O’DonoghueKillarney Legion
Fir Ionaid:
16. Brian KellyKillarney Legion
17. Jonathan LyneKillarney Legion
18. Mark GriffinSt Michaels-Foilmore
19. Anthony MaherDuagh
20. Stephen O’BrienKenmare
21. Darran O’SullivanGlenbeigh-Glencar
22. Michael GeaneyDingle
23. Cathal Ó LúingAn Ghaeltacht
24. Gavin CrowleyTemplenoe
25. Denis DalySt Marys
26. Conor KeaneKillarney Legion
Bainistíocht
Bainisteóir: Eamonn Fitzmaurice (Finuge)
Róghnóirí: Mikey Sheehy (Austin Stacks), Padraig Corcoran (Dingle), Liam Hassett (Laune Rangers), Maurice Fitzgerald (St Marys).
Referee for the game is Barry Cassidy from Derry
|
|
|
Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Mar 3, 2017 21:32:01 GMT
Good to see Shanahan and McCarthy keeping their spots, but disappointed to not see Lyne and Brendan O'Sullivan at all. Lyne and Griffin on the bench gives us options and though Griffin is unlucky to lose out he is part of a team with too many halfbacks. Killian has been more or less acting as Fullback so far anyway and though it prevents him going forward I think most will agree he is our best option for Fullback at the moment. Shanahan will be eager to make an impression before O Beaglaoich and Foley become back available. Good too to see a work horse like Donnchadh returning though I would have preferred Darran there myself. Savage too in the half forwards and Keane, O'Donoghue and Geaney in the fill forward line: deadliest full forward line in Ireland IF and that's a big IF we can get the ball to them. Roscommon don't play very defensively and the pitch in Roscommon will leave enough room for the forwards, but I hope we don't overestimate ourselves. The Roscommon team might not be getting results: they know exactly what they can do and they are good enough to beat anyone in Division 1 if they keep progressing. They're without a lot of players, but nevertheless made things hard for their opponents. Barry and Moran need to win midfield, simply have to and Kealy has to learn how to mix up the kick outs. If we can do all that we should be in for a great game.
|
|
|
Post by Tadhgeen on Mar 3, 2017 22:37:05 GMT
I like the look of this lineout. I think this is Savage's best position. It's a big game for him and I think he can make our full forward line click big time. Good to see Morley tried at CHB with Crowley and Murphy either side - a strong half back line and behind them an equally strong full back line. Good balance of options on the bench too.
|
|
MeathExile
Full Member
I wonder, is there a goal in this game??
Posts: 199
|
Post by MeathExile on Mar 3, 2017 23:38:03 GMT
Good to see Barry John get a start for once. Morley CB will be interesting - I think Peter is much better on the wing. Would like to see Griffin get a shot at midfield as he is very mobile and physically imposing - wonder if he has the attacking skills? Also good to see McCarthy get the nod again - he looks like he has the ability for this level. Savage seems to have good vision for CF based on evidence in first 2 games, not so much evident v Monaghan.
No sign of KD yet but I believe he is training 1 night a week.
A good run by the 21's would be a super start for the year - here's hoping they go well over next few weeks. Add in 3-5 of those lads to give the extra pace - could be interesting....Management need to be a bit more positive wrt trying new lads when they become available. No point waiting till they are 25....
|
|
|
Post by Ballyfireside on Mar 4, 2017 3:29:17 GMT
I'd be heart broken for B O'Sullivan but the head rules with Éamonn, otherwise heads roll! People can now have little gripe as Barry John starts and 7 falls to Paul. Key to selection is matchups and Centre as opposed to Wing/Corner positioning is intriguing when you compare say what makes a good CHF v Wing. A wee bit of familiarity with Donegal has me appreciating how little spectators really know about selection -there have been some master strokes by our management that would have gone right over our heads, and probably for the best as we'd be confused to no end, we'd be demented!
Wasn't Rossies v Dubs at Hyde Park a washout last time?, the Heavens are open up that direction tonight I'm told.
Rossies at home will give it their all and they will have learned from how Monaghan and Mayo handled us. They put on some show v Donegal last year so all to play for.
|
|
dart
Senior Member
Posts: 277
|
Post by dart on Mar 4, 2017 7:42:45 GMT
Roscommon GAA have tweeted that it's all systems go for Sunday in response to a query about the playability of the pitch.
|
|
|
Post by Leathama on Mar 4, 2017 9:34:37 GMT
Adrian Spillane dropped/injured?
|
|
|
Post by glengael on Mar 4, 2017 10:02:01 GMT
Roscommon GAA have tweeted that it's all systems go for Sunday in response to a query about the playability of the pitch. It must be some pitch if it can withstand all the rain of the last few days as well as the deluges promised for today and tomorrow.
|
|
|
Post by Whosinmidfield on Mar 4, 2017 11:12:51 GMT
Good team. Looks like we will have at least 1 orthodox half forward in Jack Savage. I am not convinced by Ronan Shanahan, playing for Stacks he has never really stood out. Hopefully we will get a free flowing performance and a win on Sunday.
|
|
|
Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Mar 4, 2017 11:19:36 GMT
Roscommon Manager Kevin McStay tonight Friday named his team to face Kerry in Dr. Hyde Park Roscommon on Sunday at 2 pm. The team features a couple of changes. Darren O Malley of Michael Glaveys replaces Éire Óg club man Colm Lavin in goal while Tom Corcoran of Strokestown makes way for Roscommon Gaels Cian Connolly.
1 Darren O’Malley Michael Glaveys
2 David Murray Padraig Pearses
3 Sean Mullooly Strokestown
4 Niall McInerney St Brigids
5 John McManus Roscommon Gaels
6 Sean McDermott Western Gaels
7 Conor Devaney Kilbride
8 Enda Smith Boyle
9 Tadgh O’Rourke Tulsk
10 Fintan Cregg Elphin
11 Ronan Stack St Brigids
12 Shane Killoran Elphin
13 Donie Smith Boyle
14 Ciaráin Murtagh (C) St Faithleachs
15 Cian Connolly Roscommon Gaels
Subs
16 Colm Lavin Éire Óg, 17 Paddy Brogan Strokestown, 18 Ciaran Cafferkey Western Gaels, 19 Tom Corcoran Strokestown,
20 Thomas Featherston Oran , 21 Niall Kilroy Fuerty , 22 Fergal Lennon Clann na nGael 23 Brian Murtagh St Faithleachs,
24 Diarmuid Murtagh St Faithleachs, 25 Gary Patterson Michael Glaveys, 26. Brian Stack St Brigids.
|
|
|
Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Mar 4, 2017 11:28:11 GMT
Just rang Roscommon GAA and was told pitch will be inspected this evening (no time given) and again tomorrow morning by the referee. Problem is that most supporters will be past Nenagh or Gort by the time the referee inspects the pitch.
|
|
|
Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Mar 4, 2017 15:18:30 GMT
Just got a reply that the pitch is draining very well and looks in good condition.Bar a biblical flood overnight the game should be on.
04 March 2017 14:24
Today Mostly cloudy this afternoon with scattered showers, some of these heavy and slow-moving with the risk of thunder. Drier and brighter in west Munster. Strong and blustery northwest winds in Connacht and Munster, but moderate to fresh westerly elsewhere. Highest temperatures 6 to 9 degrees Celsius.
Tonight
Showers retreating northeastwards this evening with some dry and clear periods developing for a time. Lows of 0 to 3 degrees Celsius with frost forming, especially in northern areas, and a few pockets of fog also. Rain arriving in southwest Munster around midnight and spreading northeastwards overnight with possibly some sleet or wet snow in parts of the midlands. Becoming windy in southern counties.
Tomorrow
Cold and windy on Sunday with scattered outbreaks of rain, but brighter and drier periods also, gradually increasing through the afternoon. Some sleet or wet snow in the early morning in parts of the midlands. Strong to gale force and blustery westerly winds veering northwesterly in Munster and south Leinster and afternoon highs of 5 to 8 degrees Celsius.
|
|
|
Post by stevieq on Mar 4, 2017 16:50:39 GMT
Just zig zagged across the country to Roscommon for an overnighter. Will be fairly pi**ed off if the lads can't put together a performance tomorrow. Moran needs a big game to get back on track. Also would love to see JO'D find his mojo. He was shooting the lights out at these kind of matches a few short years ago. Forwards need to start clicking.
|
|
|
Post by patinkerry on Mar 4, 2017 16:59:04 GMT
I'm in Roscommon already, drizzle and grey but hopefully the only down pour will be a few beers down my throat. Any advice on a good pub to watch the Dublin v Mayo match tonight and get together tomorrow before the match?
I like that Eamon is trying out different formats. I thought Jonathan Lyne was keen last week and ran for the ball when others slowed down. I was disappointed to see him dropped from the starting team. I was disappointed too to see Brendan O Sullivan gone from the subs; this time last year up in Castlebar he showed real promise.
Roscommon aren't on the same sprint as last year and though they won't fear us after their 2016 win, I think our lads may well fear their positioning in the team. I'm hoping that we see some Kerry spark.Morley is getting better, Paul is worth his weight but needs more to work with, James is quiet, Killian is gaining form, midfield isn't consistent and by God, didn't Bryan look lean and fit when he came on last week. Quick too, he was gone in a flash.
|
|
|
Post by Mickmack on Mar 4, 2017 19:32:23 GMT
I wouldn't start Gooch on the 40. Any decent half back would run him into the ground. He'd spend more time in his half back line than on the 40. Unless eamonn can devise a way round this. Which based on previous evidence is doubtful Who says he has to drift back?? With the way E Fitz is noted for lining out we will have our two half forwards drifting back anyway and if Colm was also to drift back then we are left with no link in the half forward line. I would say to Colm not to focus on tracking back and let the grafting to our half forwards like Donnchadh (who is one of the best in the country at it). I think too many people are taking the AI final against the Dubs in 2015 as an example of why Colm should not be on the forty. Granted, he struggled while tracking Philly Mac that day and it dramatically affected his performance from an attacking perspective but this is an isolated enough case and I cant remember many other games where his focus has had to be on the defensive side. If the CHB wants to go gallivanting up the field then more power to him, I would take my chances on getting a few turnovers and having Colm free to pick our inside line. If he can get on enough ball on the forty it doesn't really matter who we have inside he will put the ball in their mouth. Considering we have two of the best inside forwards in the game I would give us a right chance in beating the dubs with that trio linking up well. For example, look at Eden Hazard this year in comparison to last year. I know it is a completely different sport but there are relevant similarities. Hazard is one of the most influential attackers in the modern soccer game and last year he was forced into tracking the oppositions full backs. His renewed focus on defending culminated in him having an extremely poor season for his own standards. Fast forward to this year and with a new manager his role is to be effective offensively and a change of tactics have ensured that other players have the responsibility of the defensive duties. Maybe we need a change of tactics?? Is E Fitz tactically astute?? IMO....NO. Oh yeah, Eden Hazard is having a brilliant season this year by the way. There is a great piece in todays Irish Times on Brian ODriscoll... how he is coping with retirement from the game etc etc but the bit below brought Colm Cooper to my mind O’Driscoll retired after the 2014 season. He realises now that he felt the game – his game, which was in its essence a rare combination of frightening speed, limitless courage and unorthodox thinking – leaving his body before the rest of us saw it. Contrarily, even after he retired, he privately wondered if he could have squeezed another season out of it, particularly when the 2015 World Cup came around.
“I knew it was the right decision, but still have these questions. Could I have made it? It wasn’t: could I have made a difference? Because I thought Jared [Jared] was doing a really good job at 13 even though he was getting a lot of stick. It was more: yeah, could I have still done it at that level. I will never know. And I think I would have been chancing my arm a bit. Because the game was getting away from me. I didn’t have the juice in my legs any more. "Where I could still see and read the game in a way I felt was quicker than most, I just couldn’t react to what the brain was thinking. And . . . the zip goes in your legs. And that was my game. And it is so frustrating when that happens. And it went . . . before the year I retired . . . even that Lions tour in 2013 . . . the real zip was gone for four years. And I managed to modify and change up my game, but then by the final year, I really knew.”
[/i][/b]
|
|
|
Post by wayupnorth on Mar 4, 2017 20:02:10 GMT
Afraid I'll be sitting out this one. Expect and hope for a Kerry victory. Safe there and back to all travelling.
|
|
|
Post by Kingdomson on Mar 4, 2017 22:30:47 GMT
we probably lose to Roscommon, and then spring the surprise of the year and beat the Dubs! It's a nice thought but I've a feeling Mayo could be the team that takes Dublin down first next Saturday evening. So much for that feeling! Regardless, hope we see a huge improvement tomorrow from our fellas to give us some hope going forward. With regards criticism received by the Kerry camp during the past week, the comments by Éamonn Fitzmaurice in the Irish Examiner can I think come across as arrogant. www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/football/kerry-hope-coopers-club-focus-pays-dividends-444397.htmlA more humble message of 'we preformed below our standards and deserved the criticism or no one is more critical than our own dressing room' would serve Éamonn much better rather than the I don't care what anyone outside really thinks spiel. Whether you believe it sincere or not, Jim Gavin does humility a whole lot better in the media. Criticism in business, sport and most areas of life should always be welcome and it is healthy, particularly if it is meant constructively. Yes, it's nice to hear you're doing great but it can be more helpful to hear advice on where one can possibly improve or do better. If Éamonn really is as single-minded and narrow in his focus as claimed, then I guess this explains the pattern of repeating the same mistakes! On the way to setting new standards for themselves, the Dubs are busy deconstructing old myths about the league. The excuse of it only being the league and a team being in heavy training is only that - a loser’s excuse, showing the losers mentality. The current Dublin squad or Jim Gavin would never tolerate such an attitude as their consistent performances demonstrate. I hope we see a serious winners performance on field and on the line from Kerry tomorrow. Good luck to team and management and safe journey to all who travel.
|
|
peanuts
Fanatical Member
Posts: 1,857
|
Post by peanuts on Mar 4, 2017 23:44:52 GMT
It's a nice thought but I've a feeling Mayo could be the team that takes Dublin down first next Saturday evening. So much for that feeling! Regardless, hope we see a huge improvement tomorrow from our fellas to give us some hope going forward. With regards criticism received by the Kerry camp during the past week, the comments by Éamonn Fitzmaurice in the Irish Examiner can I think come across as arrogant. www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/football/kerry-hope-coopers-club-focus-pays-dividends-444397.htmlA more humble message of 'we preformed below our standards and deserved the criticism or no one is more critical than our own dressing room' would serve Éamonn much better rather than the I don't care what anyone outside really thinks spiel. Whether you believe it sincere or not, Jim Gavin does humility a whole lot better in the media. Criticism in business, sport and most areas of life should always be welcome and it is healthy, particularly if it is meant constructively. Yes, it's nice to hear you're doing great but it can be more helpful to hear advice on where one can possibly improve or do better. If Éamonn really is as single-minded and narrow in his focus as claimed, then I guess this explains the pattern of repeating the same mistakes! On the way to setting new standards for themselves, the Dubs are busy deconstructing old myths about the league. The excuse of it only being the league and a team being in heavy training is only that - a loser’s excuse, showing the losers mentality. The current Dublin squad or Jim Gavin would never tolerate such an attitude as their consistent performances demonstrate. I hope we see a serious winners performance on field and on the line from Kerry tomorrow. Good luck to team and management and safe journey to all who travel. Gees, I don't know Kingdomson. I read the article and it didn't come across as arrogant at all to me. He said they weren't satisfied with their performance against Monaghan and just said that criticism doesn't bother him.I thought it was fine.
|
|
|
Post by Attacking Wing Back on Mar 5, 2017 8:30:37 GMT
To be honest the longer his tenure has gone on the less faith I have in FitzMaurice. Apart from a moving Gooch to center forward in 2013 he hasn't really done anything with the team to make his own tactically wise.
Jack introduced the big full forward and added steel to the half forward line in Galvin.
Do we expect too much of our current crop?
|
|
|
Post by Attacking Wing Back on Mar 5, 2017 8:34:25 GMT
Just watched Dublin v Mayo from last night. Based onnthe dubs performance and our own non performances at the minute unless something changes dramatically in then next few I would fear for us in Tralee against them.
|
|
|
Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Mar 5, 2017 8:41:37 GMT
|
|
|
Post by Whosinmidfield on Mar 5, 2017 9:42:01 GMT
Worrying to see Mayo who beat us, lose by so much to Dublin. And Monaghan who also beat us, be beaten by Tyrone by a comfortable 4 points!!!!
|
|
|
Post by taggert on Mar 5, 2017 11:23:16 GMT
Dublin are playing a fabulous brand of football in 2017 and look to have unearthed real quality to add to what was already the best team in the country. When you consider the calibre of players that have sat out the majority of their league games, they look to be in seriously fine fettle. While no all irelands are won in March, they will take some stopping later in tge year. No surprise to me that they slaughtered the one-dimensional Mayo - E Fitz left Griffin roasting on a spit against Andy Moran and Dublin were never going to self-inflict a similiar scenario.
|
|
|
Post by listowelemerrs on Mar 5, 2017 11:28:39 GMT
Is the game televised today? If not is it available on stream anywhere.
|
|
|
Post by carthalawn on Mar 5, 2017 12:40:02 GMT
Dublin were immense last night - movement and athleticism put them in a different league.
|
|
smokey
Junior Member
Posts: 46
|
Post by smokey on Mar 5, 2017 13:57:14 GMT
I thought Kevin McCarthy had quite a solid debut last week and showed great signs of promise, it's good that he's getting another try out today. I don't know if wing forward is his position but this squad is badly crying out for viable options in that position (I think its our weakest area in the squad even worse than the keeper situation).
Denis Daly is another fella I'd like to see tried out there as well. He was showing well against Donegal last year until he naively got suckered into a black card and then was injured for the rest of the year.
Also give Gavin Crowley and Conor Keane a good bit of game time to see if they are up to it as well otherwise whats the point of them warming the bench, we'll learn nothing from that.
Anthony Maher is vital to this team going forward and is the number 1 midfielder in the squad provided he can regain his fitness and stay injury free. He needs as many league minutes as his body can take. If he can't regain his fitness we are in a bit of a pickle as we don't really have any other defensive midfielders in the panel.
Our inability to kick long range points is really killing us. We really need our backs driving forward when the opportunity arises and providing a scoring a threat. The two wing backs selected (if they play there) should provide this today. I was disappointed with Crowley in recent games with this aspect, he would drive into a scoring position and instead of shooting he would pull up the handbrake and look for a handpass. I think he's a better wing back than centre back. Our wing forwards need to do the same. Galvin. Declan O'Sullivan and the O'Ses used provide this and the current players haven't really provided this except Paul Murphy when hes played as a defender, O'Beaglaigh showed a few times last year that he can do this as well. Maher, Buckley and Moran do provide it at times but they have been injured most of the time recently and its also hard to pick that many immobile players all at once.
|
|
|
Post by kerryboy83 on Mar 5, 2017 14:40:32 GMT
Kerry 12 Roscommon 7 Half time. Jack savage playing great stuff on the 40.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 14:43:02 GMT
Kerry forwards well on top. Donncha black card and o brien on
|
|