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Post by onlykerry on May 17, 2017 12:09:51 GMT
I note from the match report on the Kerry website that the next game in this (U17) competition is not until the August bank holiday weekend. This seems like a daft delay and it also means a clash with the Minor QF's which traditionally take place the same weekend.
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Post by givehimaball on May 17, 2017 12:37:04 GMT
I just spoke to a parent one of the players & he told me that some of the antics on the pitch by the cork players towards the kerry lads was disgusting. I won't post what he said on here but let's say they brought it to another level lower than the gutter. I hope it was videoed & the ccc take the appropriate action, I know if it was my call that would be number 14s last appearance in a cork jersey. I was talking to someone earlier and they said they heard that there is some mobile phone footage of the melee at the end of the game that would be very damming to Cork if a disciplinary committee saw it. I'm not sure if it's admissible or whether it will end up being seen or what. Don't know if there is any footage of the half-time incident but with the way youngsters seem to video everything I wouldn't be surprised if someone had some. All very "duirt bean liom gur duirt bean lei" AS for the game itself, a very satisfying win. Veteran pretty much covered it all. Defense in particular performed very well. Restricting Cork (even allowing for some bad misses to 10 points, when they scored 11-42 in their 2 previous games (albeit against weaker opposition) was a very decent performance indeed. At the other end of the field Slattery coming out the field was crucial. One major negative for me is the fact that the semi-finals aren't until the August bank holiday weekend, which is eleven and a half weeks away. This is way too long a gap altogether imo. One plus for Kerry is at least with both the U17 and minors will be playing into August and the same management over them, there won't be completely stuck for challenge games. Does anyone know if the U17 championship next year will follow the format of the minor competition (round-robin/weird-playoff structure in Munster with 2 from each province to qualify for the last 8) I can understand this year's competition being a bit limited what with their being a minor and U17 competition and the inevitable cross-over of players but the structure of this year's minor is a far better structure than this year's U17 in my eyes.
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Post by OnTheForty on May 17, 2017 13:46:07 GMT
I see a Muiris Fitzgerald, St Mary’s in the Kerry U17 team. I presume he is a young Maurice?
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Post by champer on May 17, 2017 14:07:55 GMT
Put Donal O'Sullivan into that team and get a bit of help for midfield and they will be hard to stop. Slattery has real gas.
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Post by Kingdomson on May 17, 2017 16:20:47 GMT
Thanks for the detailed report Veteran.
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Post by himself on May 17, 2017 17:41:36 GMT
Next year's U17 competition will be a direct replacement for the U18 'minor' competition and follow that format. Videos from mobile phones are not admissible evidence at GAA hearings. Only full match videos, unedited, by sanctioned people (that is, having received prior permission) are allowed. My understanding (unconfirmed) is that Kerry have supplied such a recording at the request of the Munster Council. Personally, I hope so. I have always respected Cork as a great GAA county, but I felt that some individuals left them down very very badly last night.
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Post by inchperfect on May 17, 2017 18:16:08 GMT
Amateur footage should be valid in my view, as long as the picture quality is good. You can't Photoshop a video.
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Post by himself on May 17, 2017 19:32:51 GMT
Except everyone out there would select the footage that suits their own narrative. I much prefer the current system
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Post by inchperfect on May 17, 2017 22:15:52 GMT
Except everyone out there would select the footage that suits their own narrative. I much prefer the current system That's the whole point, that people defend their own side using video evidence. And video footage stands or falls on its own merits, video can't be biased.
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Post by Ballyfireside on May 18, 2017 3:05:47 GMT
Can't but remark poor NK representation and hardly an isolated observation. Is soccer more prevailent up North? I suppose Tralee isn't overly represented here either. I'd love to see a study of the number of county players as a percentage of the population by region in Kerry, 5 years trends would be interesting and it is wonder make for a good graduate thesis with ITT now a centre of sports excellence and the GAA element is significant. The forum would of course be a valuable sounding board and wee would all help out to make it a success. Now over to our aspiring undergraduates. This BS again. There's only one player from South Kerry why not comment on that? Not from SK so didn't notice and I am not at all suggesting that selection is unfair if you read it again.
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Post by Ballyfireside on May 18, 2017 3:12:13 GMT
Can't but remark poor NK representation and hardly an isolated observation. Is soccer more prevailent up North? I suppose Tralee isn't overly represented here either. I'd love to see a study of the number of county players as a percentage of the population by region in Kerry, 5 years trends would be interesting and it is wonder make for a good graduate thesis with ITT now a centre of sports excellence and the GAA element is significant. The forum would of course be a valuable sounding board and wee would all help out to make it a success. Now over to our aspiring undergraduates. Agh, how did you make that one out?? 2 stacks, 1 Na gaeil, 1 castleisland, 1 Mitchels & 1 listowel starting which is 1/3 of the team?? Another 1 Stacks, 1 Desmond's & 1 Ballymac in the subs which makes 8 out of the 24 on the panel were from North Kerry clubs i.e. 1/3?? Can't see your justification in saying poor NK representation unless the country board have changed the parish rule overnight 😳😳 I'd be taking NK as in Shannon & Feale Rangers, and in any event I was only trying to correlate population with representation. I am certainly not suggesting favouritism or discrimination and I did ask the question re how prominent say soccer was as this would be a significant threat to the numbers, say as opposed to Oz cherry picking a handful of stars. Maythe the Graduate Thesis will put us all on the same wavelength on this one.
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Post by Ballyfireside on May 18, 2017 3:18:08 GMT
U17 Munster Final Kerry 0-15 Cork 0-10 HT 0-8 0-6 Considering their poor start, considering the huge scores Cork had racked up in their previous games, this was a notable and very satisfying win by Kerry. There was a very strong wind blowing into the Horan end which Kerry had in the first half but it was Cork who started like a train, similar to their minors the week before. In a matter of minutes they reeled off three points, two from the hugely impressive Blake Murphy(one a free) and one from Mark Keane. But again like the minor match, Kerry awoke from their slumber and led by captain Sean O'Connell at midfield, a shining light all through, they registered the next six scores. Michael Slattery got two, Sean Doherty , Dara Casey and Michael Kelliher one each from play. Michael also got one from a free. Play was now of a high standard and both sets of players were not holding back. Cork got the next two scores both from play via Mark Cronin and Blake Murphy. Sean Keane replied for Kerry. Blake Murphy, again, got a point for Cork and Michael Slattery finished the scoring for that half. The teams went off to a round of applause and the tension mitigated the bitter cold of that strong breeze. Apparently, this tension boiled over in the tunnel I was told told afterwards. I was on the far side and was not aware of it. This was a harbinger of what ensued after the final whistle in front of the dugouts. Kerry two points up after playing with the breeze. In those circumstances, one normally would feel that the lead was insufficient facing that breeze in the second half. However, I sensed there was a purposeful attitude about this Kerry side and that if they were to submit it would be death with the boots still attached. That is the way it transpired. Kerry replicated Cork's start of the first half, surging forward for the first three scores of the half , all from play , courtesy of Franz Sauerland,could just as easily have finished in the net, Daire Cleary and Barry Keane. Again this latter effort could have been a goal. Cork now had a period of dominance. Mark Cronin pointed a free and Conor Russell got one from play. However wild shooting and poor free taking meant their dominance midway through the second half was not reflected on the scoreboard. Indeed, the free taking from both sides was poor. As far as I can recall Cork scored two from frees and Kerry one . Apart from those missed chances Cork's cause was not helped by some great Kerry defending, especially by Dylan Casey, Fergal Barry and Eddie Horan. Indeed on a couple of occasions those defenders made morale lifting long distance bursts upfield. One by Fergal Barry was particularly inspirational as he finished up in the 21 metre line before being fouled. The easy free was missed but that safari exercise gave timely and welcome respite to the Kerry defence. I presume Fergal is a brother of Jack and Alan, so the DNA is right. Impressive corner forward, Sean Keane, lifted the siege with a Kerry point but that man again, Blake Murphy, scored one for Cork. Cork minors could have done with Blake. Sean Keane and Daire Cleary got the next two points. As he did in the Tipperary game, Daire, nephew of Cork's John, came on at half time and emerged as a key man. He has blinding pace and makes straight tracks for goals. It is hard to see him not making the first fifteen the next day. After those scores it appeared that Kerry had the trophy in the bag. They did have a scare later when a Cork " goal" was flicked to the net. However, it was disallowed because the ball had gone wide before being retrieved. It would have been a total injustice had it stood because a Kerry player in possession outfield had been clearly fouled. Mark Cronin got Cork's last point and Daire Cleary had the final say with a Kerry point. After the Tipp match, I pointed out how impressed I was by Michael Slattery and bemoaned the fact that he did not see enough of the ball at full forward. After Cork's all guns blazing first half start Michael came out to the forty. It was a key move. He kicked three invaluable points in that turbulent period for Kerry, proving too good for a variety of opponents. It would appear that Austin Stacks have mined another gem of a forward. It must be said that the craft and pace of Kerry minor , Donal O'Sullivan, was badly missed from the Kerry half forward line. The hope is that he will return to the forty for the semifinal with Michael moving back to full forward. The prospect of a Donal/Michael central offensive axis is a tasty prospect. I was expecting more from Cork minor, Mark Keane at midfield. Mark was one of the best players on the field in the minor game. Last night he was opposed by Franz Sauerland. Now Mark is clearly a superior footballer to Franz but Franz is one of those awkward customers who , in spite of an apparent limited ability, makes it very difficult for a seemingly better opponent to impose himself. Sean O'Connell was the most consistent midfielder in the game. I have been observing Cork football fora long time and generally speaking their approach has usually been a fair one. Last night seemed to be an exception to this rule. Obviously, I am looking at it from a Kerry standpoint but there appeared to be an undercurrent of nastiness in Cork's approach to the game. There were several instances of off the ball fouling, only some of which was picked up. As far as I can recall this attitude earned them four yellows, one black and one red. I am not sure if it was a straight red or two yellows. Most of these bookings resulted from the intervention of the linesman. It is most disappointing that this should happen at this level. Perhaps, what I have just detailed my have something to do with the melee which developed in front of the dugouts at the final whistle when mentors, players and subs became involved in an ugly scene. It is uncertain what ignited this confrontation. It was totally pointless. The game had been decisively won. When everyone piles in it is impossible to point a finger but Cork's number fourteen, who had earlier been replaced , seemed very eager to make the impression he had failed to do when the game is in progress. Perhaps, somebody should tell him that between the white lines when the game is in progress is the time to create your reputation. Either way, it is very likely that there will be severe repercussions for both counties, as it should. It is regrettable that a fine contest was overshadowed by this shameful conduct, particularly one involving such young players. P.S. Could anybody tell me about the background of Devidas Uosis and Franz Sauerland. Not run of the mill Kerry names! P.P.S. I would imagine that Cork supporters will be lamenting the fact that a nephew of one of their finest, John Cleary, is an upcoming Kerry star. By way of consolation I give them this. A young man by the name of Daniel O'Mahony from Knockngree came on as a sub in last week's minor match. I am told that he is a nephew of Aiden O'Mahony. Something will have to be done about Kerry blood lines leaking across the border! Devidas is of the Uosis clan of Eastern EU, maybe Latvia, hardly a football stronghold so Dingle must be a good nurturing ground.
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Post by Jo90 on May 18, 2017 7:56:57 GMT
I believe he is of Lithuanian heritage.
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Post by onlykerry on May 18, 2017 9:48:44 GMT
Agh, how did you make that one out?? 2 stacks, 1 Na gaeil, 1 castleisland, 1 Mitchels & 1 listowel starting which is 1/3 of the team?? Another 1 Stacks, 1 Desmond's & 1 Ballymac in the subs which makes 8 out of the 24 on the panel were from North Kerry clubs i.e. 1/3?? Can't see your justification in saying poor NK representation unless the country board have changed the parish rule overnight 😳😳 I'd be taking NK as in Shannon & Feale Rangers, and in any event I was only trying to correlate population with representation. I am certainly not suggesting favouritism or discrimination and I did ask the question re how prominent say soccer was as this would be a significant threat to the numbers, say as opposed to Oz cherry picking a handful of stars. Maythe the Graduate Thesis will put us all on the same wavelength on this one. Kerry is made up of nine baronies and I think you are looking at the two most northern baronies in your definition of NK (Clanmaurice and Iraghticonnor)? - these two baronies represent about 18% of the physical area of the county. Unable to find population data by barony but population density maps show the Northern half to have greater population density than the southern half. Clanmaurice – Clann Mhuiris Corkaguiny – Corca Dhuibhne Dunkerron North – Dún Ciaráin Thuaidh Dunkerron South – Dún Ciaráin Theas Glanarought – Gleann na Ruachtaí Iraghticonnor – Oireacht Uí Chonchúir Iveragh Peninsula – Uíbh Ráthach Magunihy – Maigh gCoinchinn Trughanacmy – Triúcha an Aicme
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Post by keane on May 18, 2017 10:17:18 GMT
Never heard of baronies before - that's very interesting!
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Post by onlykerry on May 18, 2017 10:55:04 GMT
Never heard of baronies before - that's very interesting! The old Kerry GAA logo gave a nod to the baronies by having nine strings on its harp - one for each.
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Post by ruralgaa on May 18, 2017 13:39:21 GMT
I see a Muiris Fitzgerald, St Mary’s in the Kerry U17 team. I presume he is a young Maurice? Yes he is Maurice's son.
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Post by kerryforliam on May 18, 2017 15:27:20 GMT
It'd be something to do with it being the final. But you only mentioned a handful of teams who are amalgamated and are in the top division, only reason some of the teams you mentioned are in the higher divisions is because they are brought up by their coaches to be absolute rooters. Can you name more teams that are joined playing at high divisions? And was the semi final against Cork not a knock out game ? And now coaches are teaching there players to be rooters ? Anyway away from your negative talk , Massive win for Kerry tonight Cork looked bigger around middle but didn't do the business where it counted "on the scoreboard) wat happen at half time was a disgrace to underage football from wat I could see Peter Keane got struck few times in the tunnel by Cork players absolutely ridiculous. Cork football in a bad place with that carry on. I can't because there aren't any, and the cork game was wrapped up with 20 minutes to go. Hold on a second now, just because you think the young lads from the joined clubs such as scart/currow are roooters doesn't mean I do. I said they're being trained by fellas who'd be known in some parts as 'sodbusters'. Aside from this, when are they due out again?
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Post by glengael on May 18, 2017 15:35:57 GMT
Never heard of baronies before - that's very interesting! I am not exactly ancient , well I don't think so anyway, and we had to learn all those Baronies of Kerry in national school!!!
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Post by keane on May 18, 2017 15:58:14 GMT
Never heard of baronies before - that's very interesting! I am not exactly ancient , well I don't think so anyway, and we had to learn all those Baronies of Kerry in national school!!! I'm 30 and don't think they were ever mentioned in either primary or secondary (both in Tralee). I'd have a good memory for that sort of thing too.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2017 16:57:57 GMT
Was at the game some of those Cork fellas antics were a disgrace. Delighted we beat them. Solid team performance by Kerry. Another good team there next year. Led by David Dineen a very good player. Michael Lenihan, Shane Doona, Sean Quilter, Patrick D'Arcy, Paul Walsh, Conor Flannery, Mark Cooper, Dan O'Sullivan, David Mangan, Roan Moriarty, Darragh Lyne, Dan McCarthy, Dara Barry Walsh, Paul O'Shea, Dylan O'Neill, Dan Murphy, Tom Murnane, Eoin Fitzgerald, Alex O'Connor, Sean Òg Ò Moràin, Kieran O'Donoghue, Devan McKenna, Tadhg Lynch, Colm Moriarty, Jack Kennelly, Eric Daly, Conn O'Riagain, Keith O'Leary, Boki Nikic, Darragh O'Donoghue, Fergal O'Brien, Jack Curran. We'll beat them again.
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Post by Mickmack on May 18, 2017 18:46:34 GMT
Was at the game some of those Cork fellas antics were a disgrace. Delighted we beat them. Solid team performance by Kerry. Another good team there next year. Led by David Dineen a very good player. Michael Lenihan, Shane Doona, Sean Quilter, Patrick D'Arcy, Paul Walsh, Conor Flannery, Mark Cooper, Dan O'Sullivan, David Mangan, Roan Moriarty, Darragh Lyne, Dan McCarthy, Dara Barry Walsh, Paul O'Shea, Dylan O'Neill, Dan Murphy, Tom Murnane, Eoin Fitzgerald, Alex O'Connor, Sean Òg Ò Moràin, Kieran O'Donoghue, Devan McKenna, Tadhg Lynch, Colm Moriarty, Jack Kennelly, Eric Daly, Conn O'Riagain, Keith O'Leary, Boki Nikic, Darragh O'Donoghue, Fergal O'Brien, Jack Curran. We'll beat them again. any chance you could give the clubs these are from...
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Post by Ballyfireside on May 18, 2017 23:11:23 GMT
I'd be taking NK as in Shannon & Feale Rangers, and in any event I was only trying to correlate population with representation. I am certainly not suggesting favouritism or discrimination and I did ask the question re how prominent say soccer was as this would be a significant threat to the numbers, say as opposed to Oz cherry picking a handful of stars. Maythe the Graduate Thesis will put us all on the same wavelength on this one. Kerry is made up of nine baronies and I think you are looking at the two most northern baronies in your definition of NK (Clanmaurice and Iraghticonnor)? - these two baronies represent about 18% of the physical area of the county. Unable to find population data by barony but population density maps show the Northern half to have greater population density than the southern half. Clanmaurice – Clann Mhuiris Corkaguiny – Corca Dhuibhne Dunkerron North – Dún Ciaráin Thuaidh Dunkerron South – Dún Ciaráin Theas Glanarought – Gleann na Ruachtaí Iraghticonnor – Oireacht Uí Chonchúir Iveragh Peninsula – Uíbh Ráthach Magunihy – Maigh gCoinchinn Trughanacmy – Triúcha an Aicme Ah now you're talking and that's where I was heading so I trust I am now forgiven and I am again seen as the holy angel of all things Kerry GAA!!! Anyway I bet if we looked at a few contrasts within the county we would come up with some very interesting things, here's a few examples off the top of my auld head: 1. Best land is in hurling parishes generally, South of downstream of the river Feale , bar Austin Stacks and Kilgarvan? Never saw many cows in Tralee and yes, this is a national trend, best land = hurling, East Galway, Kilkenny, East Cork, etc. This has to do with landlords having shinty teams that hurling grew from? 2. Mountains in South Kerry might account for low population density in comparison to say NK. This gap is closing as farms get bigger. So let's see if anyone takes it up as a Project, I wonder if anything similar was ever done elsewhere where we could learn from their methodology.
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Post by gbbuei on May 19, 2017 5:18:44 GMT
I see a Muiris Fitzgerald, St Mary’s in the Kerry U17 team. I presume he is a young Maurice? Yes he is Maurice's son. Can you tell us anything about him as a player? Best position? Is he talented? Under 17 again next year? Playing with Colaiste na Sceilge? While very unfair to compare and the young Muiris deserves his own chance to make his own name for himself it's still hard not to get excited!
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Post by Mickmack on May 19, 2017 8:07:17 GMT
Would love to know the literal translation of these. If you ever read a land registry folio you will reference to townland in such and such a barony.
Clanmaurice – Clann Mhuiris
Corkaguiny – Corca Dhuibhne
Dunkerron North – Dún Ciaráin Thuaidh
Dunkerron South – Dún Ciaráin Theas
Glanarought – Gleann na Ruachtaí
Iraghticonnor – Oireacht Uí Chonchúir
Iveragh Peninsula – Uíbh Ráthach
Magunihy – Maigh gCoinchinn
Trughanacmy – Triúcha an Aicme[/quote]
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Post by Mickmack on May 19, 2017 8:24:45 GMT
Agh, how did you make that one out?? 2 stacks, 1 Na gaeil, 1 castleisland, 1 Mitchels & 1 listowel starting which is 1/3 of the team?? Another 1 Stacks, 1 Desmond's & 1 Ballymac in the subs which makes 8 out of the 24 on the panel were from North Kerry clubs i.e. 1/3?? Can't see your justification in saying poor NK representation unless the country board have changed the parish rule overnight 😳😳 I'd be taking NK as in Shannon & Feale Rangers, and in any event I was only trying to correlate population with representation. I am certainly not suggesting favouritism or discrimination and I did ask the question re how prominent say soccer was as this would be a significant threat to the numbers, say as opposed to Oz cherry picking a handful of stars. Maythe the Graduate Thesis will put us all on the same wavelength on this one. The sem, The green, PCD, CNS.....any reason why St Michaels Listowel are not at their level. These secondary schools play a crucial role
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Post by onlykerry on May 19, 2017 8:29:26 GMT
Kerry is made up of nine baronies and I think you are looking at the two most northern baronies in your definition of NK (Clanmaurice and Iraghticonnor)? - these two baronies represent about 18% of the physical area of the county. Unable to find population data by barony but population density maps show the Northern half to have greater population density than the southern half. Clanmaurice – Clann Mhuiris Corkaguiny – Corca Dhuibhne Dunkerron North – Dún Ciaráin Thuaidh Dunkerron South – Dún Ciaráin Theas Glanarought – Gleann na Ruachtaí Iraghticonnor – Oireacht Uí Chonchúir Iveragh Peninsula – Uíbh Ráthach Magunihy – Maigh gCoinchinn Trughanacmy – Triúcha an Aicme Ah now you're talking and that's where I was heading so I trust I am now forgiven and I am again seen as the holy angel of all things Kerry GAA!!! Anyway I bet if we looked at a few contrasts within the county we would come up with some very interesting things, here's a few examples off the top of my auld head: 1. Best land is in hurling parishes generally, South of downstream of the river Feale , bar Austin Stacks and Kilgarvan? Never saw many cows in Tralee and yes, this is a national trend, best land = hurling, East Galway, Kilkenny, East Cork, etc. This has to do with landlords having shinty teams that hurling grew from? 2. Mountains in South Kerry might account for low population density in comparison to say NK. This gap is closing as farms get bigger. So let's see if anyone takes it up as a Project, I wonder if anything similar was ever done elsewhere where we could learn from their methodology. Holy angel or Holy Cow!!! Your next forray into understanding the trends could be studying the butter road and how much leakage of footballing blood to and from Cork occurred along this ancient route.... another phD theme
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2017 13:19:10 GMT
Was at the game some of those Cork fellas antics were a disgrace. Delighted we beat them. Solid team performance by Kerry. Another good team there next year. Led by David Dineen a very good player. Michael Lenihan, Shane Doona, Sean Quilter, Patrick D'Arcy, Paul Walsh, Conor Flannery, Mark Cooper, Dan O'Sullivan, David Mangan, Roan Moriarty, Darragh Lyne, Dan McCarthy, Dara Barry Walsh, Paul O'Shea, Dylan O'Neill, Dan Murphy, Tom Murnane, Eoin Fitzgerald, Alex O'Connor, Sean Òg Ò Moràin, Kieran O'Donoghue, Devan McKenna, Tadhg Lynch, Colm Moriarty, Jack Kennelly, Eric Daly, Conn O'Riagain, Keith O'Leary, Boki Nikic, Darragh O'Donoghue, Fergal O'Brien, Jack Curran. We'll beat them again. any chance you could give the clubs these are from... 1 Alex O Connor (Milltown/Castlemaine)/Keith O'Leary (Kilcummin) David Oba (Austin Stacks) 2 Eoin Fitzgerald (Gneeveguilla)/Liam Guiney (Ballydonoghue)Colin Ò Muircheartaigh (An Ghaeltacht) 3 Dan O'Sullivan (Rathmore)/ Sean Og O'Morain (Dingle) Gary O'Connor (Dr.Crokes) 4 Mark Cooper (Dr.Crokes) /Kieran O'Donoghue (Legion) Eric Daly (Beale) 5 Dan McCarthy (Kenmare)/Colm Moriarty (Annascaul) Jack Curran (Waterville) 6 Dara Walsh (Austin Stacks)/David Mangan (Laune Rangers) Cian O'Shea (Fossa) 7 Conor Flannery (Dingle)/Eoghan Carroll (Austin Stacks) Brendan O'Neill (Ballydonoghue) 8 Sean Quilter (Austin Stacks)/Darragh Mackessy (Finuge)David Leane (Milltown/Castlemaine) 9 Darragh Lyne (Legion)/Darragh O’Donoghue (Firies)Padraig Linnane (Austin Stacks) 10 Paul Walsh (Brosna) /Dan Murphy (Rathmore)Bojan Nikic(Kenmare)Dylan O'Neill (Milltown/Castlemaine) 11 Paul O'Shea (Kilcummin)/Tom Murnane (Kenmare) Tadhg McEvoy (Moyvane) 12 Patrick D'Arcy (Glenflesk)/Tadhg Lynch (Na Gaeil)Conn O'Riagain (An Ghaeltacht) 13 David Dineen (Rathmore)/Fergal O'Brien (St Pats Blennerville) Jack Kennelly (Ballydonoghue) 14 Michael Lenihan (Dr.Crokes)/Roan Moriarty (Laune Rangers) Jack Farrell (Annascaul) 15 Shane Doona (Laune Rangers)/Devan McKenna (Listowel Emmets) Conor Myers (Austin Stacks)
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Post by Annascaultilidie on May 19, 2017 23:04:28 GMT
A team played a final this evening and lost.
They scored 2-15 and still lost.
One of their players scored 2-10.
His name is David Clifford.
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Post by Ballyfireside on May 20, 2017 2:18:23 GMT
Well there is the sporadic factor also, even at inter-county level, but I wonder of there are any trends. Maybe it would have to be done at national level to get statistically reliable data and it is likely that trends in a particular county would be more pronounced nationally, moreover if one compared like with like. I Compare say Listowel with Buncrana, and say South Donegal with South Kerry. In the latter cases clubs struggle to field teams though they would be the richer veins of the game.
My alma matar that is St Micks had a good run in recent years and with two football mad heads I'd be surprised if there was neglect in that department.
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