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Post by homerj on Feb 5, 2017 20:57:14 GMT
Shane supposed to be ok. will be out for 2-3 weeks as a precaution.
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Post by Joxer on Feb 5, 2017 21:01:15 GMT
I'd agree with pretty much all of the comments from those who attended this material ch...including the one about the terrace being ' a bit thrown together'!
The substitutions definitely cost us momentum, though we were likely tiring anyway. Good performances all over the field from the starting 15 and Jack Barry ( who had a very significant impact after coming in/.for first half but needs to grow in confidence particularly when in scoring positions...a small gripe at this point). Brian Kelly's kick outs still too slow for me. Having said that, very good use of the mark particularly in the first half. Tom O'Sullivan, Donnacha Walsh, Paul Geaney, David Moran, James O'Donoghue, Jason Foley, Killian Young, Jack Savage, Mark Griffin all had really good games and when you're listing that many players, and you can add in Jack Barry and Jonathan Lyne too, you know you had a good team performance.
Also intrigued to see Maurice conducting the pre-second half warm up. First time I've seen a warm up at that time too.
Mayo next Saturday is something to look forward to. Gotta love the league with games thick and fast....
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Post by homerj on Feb 5, 2017 21:11:19 GMT
the pre-second half warm up. First time I've seen a warm up at that time too. this seems to becoming more and more popular now, in modern sports science. i guess there has been studies done about body reactions after a 15 mins break, especially in colder/wetter weather.
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Post by Leathama on Feb 5, 2017 21:21:35 GMT
Just back from Letterkenny, delighted to have made the journey. A very encouraging performance overall. Tom O'Sullivan was most impressive on his full debut, as was Jason Foley. The Jacks, Savage & Barry will be happy with their contributions (aside from the latters black card towards the end). Thought Geaney & JOD both played very well and motoring well for this time of year. Moran was very solid and make good use of the mark. Donnchadh was tireless as always and went through an amount of ball.
Already I don't envy Fitzmaurice already when it comes to picking a 15 & 26. The below were unavailable for selection today:
Colm Cooper Darran O' Sullivan Anthony Maher Bryan Sheehan Kieran Donaghy Stephen O Brien Brian O Beaglaoich Johnny Buckley Fionn Fitzgerald Shane Murphy Denis Daly Gavin White Tony Brosnan (?) Killian Spillane Barry O Sullivan
Looking forward to the Mayo game next weekend already.
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Post by northkerry4ever on Feb 5, 2017 21:32:37 GMT
Delighted to have made it to Letterkenny today. James was unmarkable today. Dare I say as good as 2014!! Geaney hit 2-4 and I think will be disappointed with parts of his play. Jack savage is a nice foil in there with them. Half forward line did a pile of dirty work and kept it simple. Donnacha was a collouses today ( a couple of wayward passes aside) midfield worked well and Morley's running freed up Moran in a lot of ways. Half back line was solid. Tom O Sull lives up to the name and was fantastic ( no problem with the hardy stuff either) full back line coped well too. Michael Murphy didn't score from play from what I can remember. McBrearty was kept quiet.
Great opening day and roll on Saturday night!!
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Post by fritz on Feb 5, 2017 22:29:03 GMT
Super start to the league with a number of positives. All the rookies acquitted themselves extremely well. Bit disappointing that there was a hint of discomfort towards the end when the shape was lost. Good to hear Shane Enright appears to be ok. It was disconcerting at the time with what from the terrace looked to be a pretty incoherent medical response and considerable anxiety on the pitch.
As it turned out the early substitution may have improved us. Jack Barry was a revelation and Morley did very well at wing back. As for the other wing back, Tom O'Sullivan had a dream of a first-half, powering forward at will. Jason Foley was less conspicuous but can be very satisfied with his maiden league appearance. Jack Savage looks yet another stylish, skilful inside forward we seem to produce with indecent regularity. Of the more established names, Donnchadh was excellent to my eyes while Paul and James tormented Donegal. David Moran was clearly the dominant midfielder on show but was guilty of two (?) appalling cross field passes that could have proved disastrous. As ever, he mixes the sublime with the occasional bit of ridiculousness. By the by, he is still on 45 duty and that's not an option I think we would all agree.
The negatives? Really think we need to take a look at other options at some stage in goal. The current set-up will cost us I am sorry to say. The two Shane's need to be looked at. Also, as seemingly ever, we were vulnerable to hard direct running, though I am not sure who was most culpable today. The other disappointment was a couple of the subs. I was looking forward to see Brendan O'Sullivan get a run but it didn't happen for him today. To put it kindly, the same at the very least can be said for Michael Geaney.
Still, all in all a rewarding trip to the north west. Hopefully a "super Saturday" lies ahead with another two points and a Crokes win....
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Post by Premier on Feb 5, 2017 23:02:20 GMT
Just back from Letterkenny, delighted to have made the journey. A very encouraging performance overall. Tom O'Sullivan was most impressive on his full debut, as was Jason Foley. The Jacks, Savage & Barry will be happy with their contributions (aside from the latters black card towards the end). Thought Geaney & JOD both played very well and motoring well for this time of year. Moran was very solid and make good use of the mark. Donnchadh was tireless as always and went through an amount of ball. Already I don't envy Fitzmaurice already when it comes to picking a 15 & 26. The below were unavailable for selection today: Colm Cooper Darran O' Sullivan Anthony Maher Bryan Sheehan Kieran Donaghy Stephen O Brien Brian O Beaglaoich Johnny Buckley Fionn Fitzgerald Shane Murphy Denis Daly Gavin White Tony Brosnan (?) Killian Spillane Barry O Sullivan Looking forward to the Mayo game next weekend already. Was Denis Daly cited pre game as being unavailable? Didn't hear anything
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Post by Leathama on Feb 5, 2017 23:27:29 GMT
You're right, he was not. Nor was BoB from what I saw, without assuming he was retained for u21's/out injured from McGrath cup final?
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Post by fitz on Feb 6, 2017 0:05:09 GMT
Respect to everyone who made the long journey today.
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Post by pillar on Feb 6, 2017 0:24:37 GMT
JOD has put in a massive amount of work during the winter for the first time in 4 years cos he's injury free.Stay healthy and he's in for a great year
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Post by onlykerry on Feb 6, 2017 9:33:15 GMT
Here's a lie from Donegal Manager Rory Gallagher that might resonate with those of us who think they are good at picking teams: "With the forward line Kerry named we could make a decision to camp in our own half and try and get a result. But we have to look at the bigger picture and that is what we tried to do." The moral of the story as I see it is that Éamonn & Co set up the team strategically for each opposing side. In this case they effectively strangled Rory at the outset, forcing him to make decisions, and much of it after he might have laid out his own team. The result is what comes out in the wash and so there is lots going on that us outsiders couldn't be aware of. Ah maybe the backroom boys look into the forum for a right laugh so at least we serve some useful purpose, if it is only a useless one by our own high expectations! I haven't read the comments here yet but having been at the game I did notice that Ballydonoghoor Jason Foley lived up to his parochial ethos as he actually had his man marking him rather than he marking corner forward Jamie Brennan. At times Jason dictated where they both stood, always keeping the attacker out of harms way, holding him scoreless on an Indo rating of 5/10 and being substituted on 47 mins. Foley was keen and my own interest has me examining how on the one hand the defender should be between his man and the goals, while he must also be in front of the Bundoran forward, bearing in mind that the ball does not emerge from behind! Quote for the day - Nobody ever said life was easy and they were right, whoever they were, or weren't, for what they didn't say. And aren't I so smart for quoting people for what they never said!Verbal suduko??
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Post by peanuts on Feb 6, 2017 9:39:24 GMT
quote]Verbal suduko??[/quote]
More like verbal diarrhoea
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Feb 6, 2017 9:41:12 GMT
Rory continues to endear himself to others- the lad is doing a great job of blackening the name of Donegal
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 6, 2017 10:09:15 GMT
Respect to everyone who made the long journey today. Jazus man 'twas terrible for me most of all, you have no idea, I had to walk to the end of my road and which is where O'Donnell Perk is! But spare a thought for the 1,000km round trip to South Kerry, I had to take 1,000 steps and they had a bus laid on, no justice, and such was the celebrations up here behind enemy lines that I bet they were even home before me! It is people like me who are the true soldiers of the GAA in the dark days on February, you won't see me showboating in front of the cameras with the fairweathers in sunny September!
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 6, 2017 10:12:10 GMT
Rory continues to endear himself to others- the lad is doing a great job of blackening the name of Donegal Sorry, if you were referring to my comment lads, that was a liNe from Rory, not 'lie'! FYI, the Donegal supporters were unequivocal in dead-heating MOTM between DM and JO'D. Was it that this pair were perceived as having inflicted the most? Depends how you look at it.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 6, 2017 10:20:10 GMT
More like verbal diarrhoea [/quote] Vertical diarrhoea is if you was a horse of a man you could sh*t walking, talking, now that's a Sudoku to confuse you! BTW how is Rory blackening the name? Regardless of individual views of his style, one thing I am sure of is that he gives his best and as all concerned with every team do. Murphy also plays a role and just watching proceedings yesterday just brought it home to me the vast operation it is to field an inter county team. And yes, a record 7 Kerry busses I myself counted yesterday in Letterkenny, then you had the auto mobiles and a few foot soldiers! I sense that there is a massive silent majority sway behind this emerging panel, like I've only ever seen before when the 70's/80's team were in full swing. And well done to the team for making it a rewarding trip by not alone winning but also playing in a manner that will ultimately get them up the Hogan steps. Brendan O'Sullivan was brilliant until he was surrounded and couldn't distribute, maybe something he can work on, what a trier. You'd swear Donnchadh was after getting a new load from the Duracell factory, such was his roving between the end lines for the 66mins he was on stage. Did Moran give a near career best performance? And yip, the Terrace is a work in progress, the proceeds of the draw for a house that was announced yesterday will help and in fairness the crowd was only 50% of capacity yesterday so it shouldn't have been too bad with the sunshine at that side of the park. While Letterkenny is the biggest town in the county, that they insist and probably for valid reason, in having 3 inter county pitches means that funds are shared accordingly. Ballybofey is the original HQ pitch while Ballyshannon is at the opposite end of the county and so spreads things out a bit when they get the odd game.
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Post by homerj on Feb 6, 2017 10:53:40 GMT
anybody who travelled from kerry to donegal yesterday, should be top of the list for all ireland final tickets if we are there in September.
massive respect for all of ye who did, thats serious commitment.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Feb 6, 2017 11:09:05 GMT
anybody who travelled from kerry to donegal yesterday, should be top of the list for all ireland final tickets if we are there in September. massive respect for all of ye who did, thats serious commitment. Presumably they are season ticket holders.
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Post by animal on Feb 6, 2017 11:27:48 GMT
A good day out and enjoyed the trip north. The ground was a bit Spartan alright - portaloos! - but the good weather and fine performance made it all worth while. I am delighted to finally win a first round league game. I had become so frustrated at attending successive defeats to Dublin and Mayo on opening days. I understand the circumstances of these defeats i.e. holidays and player availability, but the way I see it you only get a certain amount of games in a year against the top teams. Why would you waste the opportunity of playing such teams by not being prepared. We are going to play better teams and have better matches in spring than we are likely to have before August. Every time you play against a Division 1 team you should expect to learn something so why waste the opportunity.
Back to yesterday - there was plenty to be positive about. James looks the sharpest he has been in a long long time. He will need plenty game time and a clean bill of health but the signs are very good. Paul Geaney is something else. He can turn on a dime and has lethal accuracy. I enjoyed his second goal in particular. Jack Savage can be very pleased. It was an ideal game for him in many ways. Donegal did not play in their usual defensive mode and our full forward line made hay. There will be much tougher tests.
Tom O'Sullivan was excellent in the 1st half. Yes he was awarded a rake of space but he used the ball very well and showed no fear. I thought Jack Barry acquitted himself very well when he came on and looks a good addition to the squad. David Moran was often the driving force and bar a few stray passes he had a fine outing.
The substitutions changed the game utterly and perhaps too many were made in quick succession. Brendan and Mikey have had better days. A challenge for the management will be to improve our displays in the final quarter of games. Too often we let teams come back at us and we let a ten point lead slip to just three. In what is bound to be a close league points difference could yet be crucial in making the final two.
Overall mightily pleased and looking forward to Mayo.
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Post by animal on Feb 6, 2017 11:30:29 GMT
anybody who travelled from kerry to donegal yesterday, should be top of the list for all ireland final tickets if we are there in September. massive respect for all of ye who did, thats serious commitment. Presumably they are season ticket holders. I suspect you are right but it is still some commitment as with four home games this year an away trip is not absolutely required to make the 60% attendance record. I traveled from Dublin which was a good spin but nothing like those who came from the southwest.
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Post by playitfair on Feb 6, 2017 11:44:46 GMT
Just a couple of comments on yesterday. As I was at the ground early enough we went to the stand where the facilities were perfect, the ground and access was very well stewarded. No quibbles at all with the ground.
No major comments on the match that haven't been stated other than to say it strikes me that Killian Young is such an unheralded player for Kerry, I thought he was very good yesterday where for the most part, Donegal's strategy was to isolate McBrearty inside with him. I thought he did very well.
Foe Donegal Murphy was immense, aside from what he does with the ball, his work ethic without the ball was fantastic. Donegal would really struggle if he gets injured.
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Post by buck02 on Feb 6, 2017 11:47:54 GMT
Had to make do with Ambrose and Garry and the deferred coverage on TG4 so I can't say a whole pile about the game but even taking the opposition into account its hard not to be very happy with this display. Of the new lads, Tom Sullivan and Jack Barry showed some great 'cut' about them. Both goals came from our kick outs which was good to see. I wouldn't be too concerned about the last ten minutes either. Roll on Saturday night, I'm sure mayo have targeted this game all winter so it should be a good contest.
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Post by homerj on Feb 6, 2017 11:59:37 GMT
what is jack barrys best position?
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Post by kerrygold on Feb 6, 2017 12:02:49 GMT
Positivity across every line yesterday for Kerry. All the young players putting their hands up and playing well. Kerry will have 7-8 new faces in their championship match day panel this summer.
Signs of work being done on the kickout so we'll leave them alone, Rome wasn't built in a day.
Shane Enright took a ferocious hit from Michael Murphy with the crack echoing around the ground and sounded like a break, we feared the worse. The contact was delayed and off the ball so may have been in the black card body check category, or at least a free out. This is the same ref that black carded Lee Keegan in the final.
Kerry will need to build a team that will last for 80 minutes to beat the Dubs and Mayo. Having PG and JOD full of running and in the zone for the last 20 minutes, 15 mins of normal time and the added 5-7 minutes, now the championship minutes, will have to be considered. Both are now blue chip inside forwards and have no place sitting on the bench as these high end games are decided during these 20 championship minutes. This might require new radical thinking but Kerry have enough players now to soak up games earlier and go for the jugular later in the game.
Mayo's defensive template from last summer brought Dublin to the brink last September but they didn't have championship forwards to close the gate. Kerry faded in the last quarter yesterday, albeit it is February but still a lesson lies therein. Kerry will need their championship 15 on the field for the 20 championship minutes to take both Mayo and Dublin this year. The new game at the top table has become fascinating.
The mark raised it's head several times yesterday and worked very well. It is a good new addition to the game and will reward high fielding which is welcome.
It will be interesting to see if this will be a championship year for Kerry. It is early days but this is the best early season form we have seen from Eamonn's teams to date.
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Post by Tadhgeen on Feb 6, 2017 13:30:57 GMT
A great day with the heavy fog that enveloped the ground earlier lifting by noon. Fantastic to see our debutantes playing so well and full of confidence.
Jack Savage won nearly every ball that was directed in to him scoring two from play and recycling the ball with great aplomb when surrounded in the corners.
Tom O'Sullivan was full of running and scored a great point. Jason Foley was limpet like every time the ball went in to his marker Jack Barry was full of strong running when he came on and made a delightful reverse pass to Paul G for the first goal.
For me our backs were very good and I can't understand what McHugh was bleating on about on the radio on the way home, saying we needed shoring up in that dept.
All the other lads were well up for this game and played very well and I thought Morley and Crowley showed real leadership gettng on a lot of ball when Donegal were attacking us hard in the last 10 minutes.
A final word for Deegan who in my view was inconsistent. He gave Donegal a number of dubious frees in the second half. Moran was pushed blatantly in the back at one point and he waved play on. I did not think the penalty should have been given - it dd not look line one from where I was sitting anyhow. He also missed loads of over carrying by Donegal as they attacked at speed in the second half.
Agree that response to Shane Enright injury looked quite amateurish and concerning. Hope he is ok.
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Post by homerj on Feb 6, 2017 13:43:48 GMT
when you concede 1-17 in a game, you dominated then of course the backs are going to be questioned.
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Post by kerryexile on Feb 6, 2017 13:50:58 GMT
It was a great performance and in particular great to see so many young players step up to the plate. Jack Savage seems to be the latest in a long line of intelligent skilful Tralee forwards. It was a breath of fresh air to see Tom O’Sullivan breaking forward, soloing with the right and effortlessly stroking it over the bar with the left from about 40 yards.
Eamonn made very good substitution decisions, replacing only players whose confidence would not be effected by being replaced. I was glad that Jason Foley in particular finished the game.
I can well understand why Brendan O’Sullivan didn’t play himself into the game. He is the type of rock that a game plan can be built around. Arriving on the scene when the majority of players are dominating their positions and the game is won leaves him redundant. He will have other chances.
The raggedness at the end must be looked at – it is not the first time that this happened. It appears that subs coming on don’t blend into the team and teamwork suffers.
Considering the players listed in a previous post that will be coming into the squad there will be some training games Killarney in July.
McHugh is as cynical as they come - I take everything he says with a pinch of salt since 2014 when he tried to heap huge pressure on JO'D.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Feb 6, 2017 14:31:33 GMT
Lads too many of you put too much faith in Brendan O Sull because he's a horse of a man- I know the game is becoming more physical, etc but the jury must surely still be, at best, out.
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Post by Kingdomson on Feb 6, 2017 15:11:44 GMT
Super start to the league with a number of positives. All the rookies acquitted themselves extremely well. Bit disappointing that there was a hint of discomfort towards the end when the shape was lost. Good to hear Shane Enright appears to be ok. It was disconcerting at the time with what from the terrace looked to be a pretty incoherent medical response and considerable anxiety on the pitch. As it turned out the early substitution may have improved us. Jack Barry was a revelation and Morley did very well at wing back. As for the other wing back, Tom O'Sullivan had a dream of a first-half, powering forward at will. Jason Foley was less conspicuous but can be very satisfied with his maiden league appearance. Jack Savage looks yet another stylish, skilful inside forward we seem to produce with indecent regularity. Of the more established names, Donnchadh was excellent to my eyes while Paul and James tormented Donegal. David Moran was clearly the dominant midfielder on show but was guilty of two (?) appalling cross field passes that could have proved disastrous. As ever, he mixes the sublime with the occasional bit of ridiculousness. By the by, he is still on 45 duty and that's not an option I think we would all agree. The negatives? Really think we need to take a look at other options at some stage in goal. The current set-up will cost us I am sorry to say. The two Shane's need to be looked at. Also, as seemingly ever, we were vulnerable to hard direct running, though I am not sure who was most culpable today. The other disappointment was a couple of the subs. I was looking forward to see Brendan O'Sullivan get a run but it didn't happen for him today. To put it kindly, the same at the very least can be said for Michael Geaney. Still, all in all a rewarding trip to the north west. Hopefully a "super Saturday" lies ahead with another two points and a Crokes win.... This has been a problem for a long time but my guess is, our defenders are simply not used to being exposed to this style inside in training either and this can't help. Of course, I could be wrong, and I don't know for sure but I do know our forward style is very much a kicking game with dink passes into space with our forwards running angles and running into space. This is our dominant style of forward play. It stands to reason that Kerry defenders are most used to playing against this style day and day out in training. However, many teams, especially the likes of Donegal, Mayo and Tyrone kick very little with a game based more on holding possession with powerful halfback lines running from deep, even Cork when they've hurt us play this style. Dublin of course given their level of talent can play it both ways with power running from deep and kicking. We have some nice footballers in our defence but do we we have the physical power and strenght to stop runners in their tracks? Mayo and Tyrone will certainly pose that question to us in upcoming league games and maybe more than once before the year is out. It's an obvious issue and it will be intriguing to see if Éamonn and Co can come up with a solution for the summer. PS: Excellent win on the road with a lot of promise shown. The range of Kerry's footballing skill was nice to watch, albeit I was confined to watching the deferred coverage on TG4. I echo the sentiment of others, well done to all who travelled and supported.
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Post by Tadhgeen on Feb 6, 2017 15:54:06 GMT
when you concede 1-17 in a game, you dominated then of course the backs are going to be questioned. As I say dubious frees and dubious penalty made up 1-7 of that score. I thought the backs did well considering we set back in last 10-15 mins when 8/9 points up. There was wave after wave of attack and the crucial thing was not to concede a goal at that point and this is what we did with some disciplined defending. Of course we can improve and we will.
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