Post by MrRasherstoyou on Oct 28, 2016 12:24:10 GMT
Did the lack of any sign of real progress in Kildare's underrage scene, or their structures in general, for most of the time since 1990 never concern you? Not even a teeny bit? Considering the figures that were bandied about over the years of what wealthy investors/donators were putting in? Considering they were reputed to be paying coaches big money to attract them there?
Did it never raise a question for you to pose?
Does the ever expanding industry in GAA teams going on "warm weather training trips/camps" ever exercise your finely honed sense of justice etc?
Heres a few comments and bits from Boards.ie around the time of the above article:
(This is from a Kildare fan) "The county board debt is mainly down to the money ploughed into the Hawkfield facility and various poor practices down the years."
"So any money raised by players at fundraisers would have been done under the guise of money to help the team or county out. They wouldnt have knew some of it would be going towards a player holiday? I think you would agree people would rather have their money spent on something else?"
"Presumably the county board pay all other expenses for the senior team? Or are the senior footballers self-financing?"
If those finite resources are taken and spent on something non-essential like warm weather training, and at the same time, central GAA money has to be given to bail the county out, then that's wrong and unfair on other counties. You cannot separate the county board from the senior team and run two financial systems. I think that's the point Martin Breheny is making and I think many will agree with. The GAA won't let that happen either as Kildare might soon find out. "
"Leaving Kildare to one side at the minute, I can see one of these player training funds becoming a problem at some stage down the line.
On one hand, what a few posters have said is true, that they will surely cut across normal funding and no doubt the players fund is a more attractive fund to contribute to. Also, the water must be muddy as to what they contribute to and what they don't contribute to. Who holds these funds and in what way are they transparent.
I know in Monaghan when Banty was in charge he gathered alot of funding directly and their was all sorts of rumours going round to what this money was used for.
This training camp probably costs in the region of €50k, at least. I'm sure its great for the players and all that but in a so called amateur game is this sort of money really helping the games as a whole. Would that money be more useful employing 2 GAA coaches in Kildare for the year and see longer term benefits. You could argue an All-ireland would be just as useful for long term benefits I suppose.
Its a very grey area and one that few counties can maintain."
"Kildare GAA chiefs have turned to fans to rescue their struggling finances, by asking for 1,000 donations of €1,000.
The county’s new committee for finance, led by former EU commissioner and Minister for Finance Charle McCreevy, has urged fans to help the ailing country.
The cash-strapped council have already revealed that they are €200,000 in debt and numerous fund-raising activities have been launches, with a new jersey being designed which has coincided with the opening of a Kildare GAA store at Whitewater Shopping centre.
Secretary Kathleen O’Neill said: “The remedial action needed was not taken and, as you are aware by now, we are facing a substantial loss this year. This is the last chance we, as a county, will get to solve our problems.”"
Kildare adamant €300,000 bailout from GAA headquarters is not a loan
KILDARE are adamant that an imminent €300,000 cash injection from GAA headquarters to help run their affairs on a shortterm basis is not a loan.
County board chairman John McMahon is adamant that it is an “advance payment” of money that would be coming to them anyway through various team and coaching grants from central and provincial level that counties always get.
“This is not a loan. This is money that would have been due to us anyway. Instead of being paid in instalments, it is being paid up front to help tide us over,” he explained.
Kildare clubs were briefed on the county’s financial affairs last week where the €300,000 ‘advance’ was explained. But as part of the agreement, the GAA has insisted that former Munster Council secretary Simon Moroney be introduced as an ‘overseer’ who is available for advice on their financial affairs.
However, McMahon insists that Moroney’s role should not be viewed as that of an administrator. “He’s there to advise us if we need it,” he said last night.
Kildare have been grappling with debts of up to €570,000, which were highlighted at last year’s convention. Financial assistance has already been made available from Croke Park and Leinster Council.
The advance payments will help them to deal with €200,000 owed immediately to creditors. It is an unprecedented move by the GAA to enter into such an arrangement but reflects the stark nature of Kildare’s financial affairs.
Most of the money will come from central funds but Leinster Council has also been asked to contribute to the ‘advance.’ Kildare – whose senior team are currently on a training holiday in Portugal, a trip which was paid for by the players’ own fundraising efforts – have been also busy putting together the details of what is known locally as “the thousandaire”, where individuals and companies can contribute €1,000 to Kildare GAA for various purposes.
“The ‘thousandaire’ isn’t about clearing debts. It’s about development of other aspects of the game in the county,” said McMahon. “Obviously St Conleth’s Park is in need of upgrading and we hope that this money can put us on a firmer financial footing.
“There are a lot of positive developments in Kildare football. Our seniors are in a league final, our minors and hurlers are going well too.
“There is a lot to be optimistic about and that should be reflected.” Clubs who attended last week’s briefing were informed that cost-cutting measures for 2012 were all on target.
“We’ve already done deals with creditors and have made big inroads in the last few months into the €570,000 figure made public last year,” said McMahon.
"Look, the bottom line is Kildare have the best of the best when it comes to physical trainers, sports psychologists, refereeing consultants, etc etc as well as managers and selectors who are racking up serious mileage expenses coming from Armagh and Dublin. All this costs money and that's what needs to be looked at as far as the senior team goes. What hasn't been mentioned in the thread is that Kildare have also recently built a brilliant training facility just outside Newbridge in Hawkfield which has been brilliant for the county having all the different teams training together and meeting each other. That is a cost that needs to be factored into this discussion also."