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Post by thebluepanther on Nov 3, 2016 22:31:05 GMT
With only 15 available places a good few players will feel hard done by. I Don't think Philly deserved one this year,other players I thought played better in that position , Off players to lose out , I think Enright was good for Kerry, Durkan for Mayo. Geaney is a class act and always delivers so deserved one, . While Connollys constant running ,tracking back and assists are often overlooked and for me was deserved one. Mayo goal keeper was dropped early in championship, was brought in and done well in qualifiers but was dropped for All Ireland Final replay . So twice he wasnt first choice by Management in a year they lost in their province and All Ireland final. Cluxton win league with Dublin, has poor 5 min spell against Kerry , but in second half was very important. He was pivotal against Mayo in second game . Captains Dublin to the Double but gets overlooked . I actually feel sorry for Clarke because I think it's a hollow acknowledgement.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2016 23:29:15 GMT
Yeah Clarke's one is a bit of pity award really. Ultimately the team is as ok as these things ever are. Thought Donnelly was a tad lucky also.
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Post by natrachtalai on Nov 3, 2016 23:39:05 GMT
All Stars are flawed in so many ways but from a Tipp point of view it is great to have both a Tipp man and clubmate receive an award. Richly deserved and unlike one comment no tipping the hat to PC. He was well up in the scoring from play ranks in the championship and in total took 15 shots from placed balls and scored 15 points. Some return. Amazed in reading the thread that not a mention of Evan Comerford for the goal. The betting most of the championship had Clarke and himself miles ahead of the rest with Cluxton at 12/1 before the final. He was super this year and for me (bias maybe) he was as good as any keeper on show. For Tipp though a football Allstar is great for the footballers of this fair county.
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Post by fitz on Nov 4, 2016 1:25:14 GMT
I thought Philly should have been player of the year last year but I am not sure if he should have gotten one this year. Was John Small unlucky? I thought that Small was extremely tidy and efficient for the Dubs and went about his business without much fuss. Philly wasn't as good as last year but I suppose he has a greater media presence than Small right now which helps. Agree, Small has been Dublin's find of 2016. Along with Fenton stood out in drawn game and saved the day.
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Post by fitz on Nov 4, 2016 1:28:26 GMT
Shane Enright can count himself unlucky to not grab a 2nd award. It was a toss up between himself and Harrison. Biased I am, but Enright to me is the most complete defensive corner back in the game, specifically as a man marker.
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Post by skybluezone on Nov 4, 2016 7:55:40 GMT
Shane Enright can count himself unlucky to not grab a 2nd award. It was a toss up between himself and Harrison. Biased I am, but Enright to me is the most complete defensive corner back in the game, specifically as a man marker. Dont disagree with that, but Harrison got Bernsrd dropped for the replay as a result of his display the first day. No one else can make that claim in the last 10 years, so on that basis Harrison is probably the right call.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2016 8:37:53 GMT
I would have no real argument with Harrison but the first day was very much a day for defenders due to conditions.
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 4, 2016 9:40:31 GMT
BB's time in the higher end Croker games may be limited going forward as age starts to catch up although I'm sure he'll want to hold on to his reputed 100k per annum sponsorship deal for as long as possible which includes VW and Supervalu among others.
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Post by glengael on Nov 4, 2016 12:39:01 GMT
Would I be right in saying Paul Geaney is Dingle's second All Star ?
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Post by peanuts on Nov 4, 2016 12:53:08 GMT
Would I be right in saying Paul Geaney is Dingle's second All Star ? I'd imagine so, the other being Diarmaid Murphy. The only one else who comes to mind is Tommy Griffin but I don't think he ever got one.
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Post by skybluezone on Nov 4, 2016 16:08:16 GMT
BB's time in the higher end Croker games may be limited going forward as age starts to catch up although I'm sure he'll want to hold on to his reputed 100k per annum sponsorship deal for as long as possible which includes VW and Supervalu among others. But will he not have to distribute some of that to the counties who have limited access to GAA funding???
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Post by Dermot on Nov 4, 2016 16:41:09 GMT
How in the name of God did Cluxton not get one ... weird indeed !!
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 4, 2016 19:29:48 GMT
BB's time in the higher end Croker games may be limited going forward as age starts to catch up although I'm sure he'll want to hold on to his reputed 100k per annum sponsorship deal for as long as possible which includes VW and Supervalu among others. But will he not have to distribute some of that to the counties who have limited access to GAA funding??? Skybluezone...remember this debate from 2014 after Dublin got 3 All Stars for flopping in the only test they had in 2014. The All stars always seems to invoke more discussion that they deserve kerrygaa.proboards.com/thread/5551/2014-football-all-stars?page=5
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Post by gaelicden on Nov 4, 2016 19:49:01 GMT
First time since 2010 when the all Ireland champions didn't win all star player of the year. Well done Lee Keegan though.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 4, 2016 19:50:26 GMT
A bit of guilt there too because of the concerted campaign of vilification against him in the media perhaps?
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Post by taggert on Nov 4, 2016 19:56:58 GMT
I think the POTY is the players rather than the media choice. Given that Connolly is touted as the best pound gor pound pkayer in the land, Keegans displays deservedly got him the award.
I thought Small was the best young player by a distance. OConnor was running on fumes once Mayo got to Croker.
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Post by thebluepanther on Nov 4, 2016 19:57:33 GMT
Now that the panto is over, Can go back to discussing football games now.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 4, 2016 20:09:17 GMT
Small deserved an all star too i believe
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2016 20:51:10 GMT
Don't think small was eligible for the young player award.
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Post by fitz on Nov 4, 2016 23:24:00 GMT
Now that the panto is over, Can go back to discussing football games now. Panthers don't do pantos. Heed. 🙂
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Post by fitz on Nov 4, 2016 23:27:30 GMT
BB's time in the higher end Croker games may be limited going forward as age starts to catch up although I'm sure he'll want to hold on to his reputed 100k per annum sponsorship deal for as long as possible which includes VW and Supervalu among others. In fairness Star was on about his car deal with Billy Naughton on Off the Ball last Tue. I certainly don't begrudge BB his perks. He's earned them.
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Post by thebluepanther on Nov 5, 2016 1:00:33 GMT
Now that the panto is over, Can go back to discussing football games now. Panthers don't do pantos. Heed. 🙂 Amazing thing about Allstars awards are people's selective memory. Someone touts a player as being hard done and like a herd every one names the same player as being hard done by. As if that proves they know their football . Stick with the crowd and you won't be questioned. It's nearly a given that BROGAN is finished listening to popular opinion , or that Connolly didn't contribute much to merit an All Star. Yet if the Kerryv Dublin game is scrutinised it will be seen that Connolly caused Kerry all sorts of problems through out the game (granted he missed two easy scores by his standardis one very similar to a Gooch miss near the end) But was at the heart of everythng . Enright who I think is a fine footballer , never got a handle on Brogan in the semi . Someone mentioned Brogan on 100,00 a year. Bottom line is Brogan, Flynn to name two arent stuck for money through business, but love being in this group and work their butt off to stay there. Jack mc Caffrey was available for Dublin this year in championship. but because he was away for league and couldn't commit was told to forget it. Same goes for every player. There is no easy ride for any player. Brogan is wealthy without
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 5, 2016 8:36:03 GMT
BB's time in the higher end Croker games may be limited going forward as age starts to catch up although I'm sure he'll want to hold on to his reputed 100k per annum sponsorship deal for as long as possible which includes VW and Supervalu among others. But will he not have to distribute some of that to the counties who have limited access to GAA funding??? I thought Nail Quinn was the original Dublin Mother Theresa?
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 5, 2016 8:39:49 GMT
BB's time in the higher end Croker games may be limited going forward as age starts to catch up although I'm sure he'll want to hold on to his reputed 100k per annum sponsorship deal for as long as possible which includes VW and Supervalu among others. In fairness Star was on about his car deal with Billy Naughton on Off the Ball last Tue. I certainly don't begrudge BB his perks. He's earned them. Neither do I. It is the way the game will have to go to keep the Mark O'Connors at home. Maybe the KCB need to put something in place to ensure the players get the best possible sponsorship deals available?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2016 9:10:49 GMT
To be fair a lot of players have sponsored cars.
I had to laugh at Ciaran Kilkenny yesterday saying it was particularly special for him as an opal ambassador winning an opal all star award.
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Post by skybluezone on Nov 5, 2016 9:49:16 GMT
But will he not have to distribute some of that to the counties who have limited access to GAA funding??? I thought Nail Quinn was the original Dublin Mother Theresa? Nah hes Tipp these days!
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Post by skybluezone on Nov 5, 2016 9:58:24 GMT
But will he not have to distribute some of that to the counties who have limited access to GAA funding??? Skybluezone...remember this debate from 2014 after Dublin got 3 All Stars for flopping in the only test they had in 2014. The All stars always seems to invoke more discussion that they deserve kerrygaa.proboards.com/thread/5551/2014-football-all-stars?page=5I remember it well Mick. Especially the bit about us flopping in our only test! But we didnt flop this year, O'Byrne cup aside! Cluxton not worthy, beaten by a man who was dropped twice and cant kick it out far enough apparently! Keegan a fine player, but Philly didnt get it last year cos he plays on the edge. The players had no issue with giving it to a non Dub who does the same! Curious!!! How the fcuk are Mayo not the Champs, best keeper, best young player, best player. Ah sure we'll just tip away winning leagues and all irelands...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2016 10:15:29 GMT
Philly did a lot more than play on the edge last year. The comparison with keegan is nonsense
Who else should be young plAyer of the year?
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Nov 5, 2016 11:59:21 GMT
To be fair a lot of players have sponsored cars. I had to laugh at Ciaran Kilkenny yesterday saying it was particularly special for him as an opal ambassador winning an opal all star award. They're called Starburst now.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 5, 2016 12:03:48 GMT
I remember it well Mick. Especially the bit about us flopping in our only test!But we didnt flop this year, O'Byrne cup aside! Cluxton not worthy, beaten by a man who was dropped twice and cant kick it out far enough apparently! Keegan a fine player, but Philly didnt get it last year cos he plays on the edge. The players had no issue with giving it to a non Dub who does the same! Curious!!! How the fcuk are Mayo not the Champs, best keeper, best young player, best player. Ah sure we'll just tip away winning leagues and all irelands... with the benefit of hindsight now and two all Irelands by Dublin later, would you agree that it was a fair point back in 2014 that teams and players should be judged on performances against teams of equal of better. I have no issue with Kerry getting just one all start in 2016. Galway won Connacht in 2016 but flopped when it mattered in their only test. I am bringing this up just to see if your thinking has evolved since that 2014 debate. I agree with you. Cluxton should be the all star keeper and Small was young player of the year and also should have got an all star. If you were picking the best 15 players you would have a keeper, two midfielders, two forwards and 10 backs.
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