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Post by Ballyfireside on Apr 5, 2017 16:29:19 GMT
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 5, 2017 16:35:20 GMT
Could you copy and paste the full article by any chance. Dara is kerrys best scribe by a mile in my opinion
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Post by Ballyfireside on Apr 5, 2017 16:39:17 GMT
Could you copy and paste the full article by any chance. Dara is kerrys best scribe by a mile in my opinion Here you go! DARA O'CINNEIDE: Nobody has moved us like Colm CooperColm Cooper’s audacity, fearlessness, and selflessness all combined to make his a genius that could be appreciated on many levels, according to Dara Ó Cinnéide Genius is not replicable. Inspiration, though, is contagious, and multiform — and even just to see, close up, power and aggression made vulnerable to beauty is to feel inspired and (in a fleeting, mortal way) reconciled. — David Foster Wallace, Federer as Religious Experience AS FAR as I am aware Colm Cooper is the only player in Ireland to inspire a treatise on the correlation between beauty, art and Gaelic football from a philosopher. But when the late John Moriarty sent me a letter a good few years ago outlining his reflections on the artistry of Gooch, it didn’t really surprise me. Football moves us in mysterious ways in Kerry and over the last 20 years nobody moved us like Colm Cooper. His was and is a genius that could be admired on so many levels. There was the visceral joy of watching the whippet-thin teenager twisting and turning and feinting his way into the public imagination. The audacity, the fearlessness, the selflessness, the pipe-and-slippers nonchalance in front of goal was all part of the brilliance honed on the streets of Killarney, where the young conjurer fine tuned his tricks before a demanding audience. He was a young man completely at one with a size 5. Then there was mid-period Cooper. Still channeling the rough magic of Ardshanavooley, he became, for a while, unmarkable. And while we admired his peerless poise and vision and the ruthless economy of his movement and his finishing, it was his defiance in face of defeat that ensured his greatness. On many of the worst days for Kerry football during his career, he was our leading light, and all those moments of inspiration preserved on Youtube will never do justice to the fierce competitive streak that is just as much a legacy of the streets of Killarney as his goal against Mayo in the 2004 final or his mesmerizing performance against Dublin in the 2013 All-Ireland semi-final. That sublime performance was the highlight of late period Cooper. His last few years were interrupted by serious injury, but in his new role as an orchestrator on the 40, he delivered enough grace notes to revive our sense of wonder at what one man could do with a ball. Indeed, during the first half in that fabled semi-final in 2013, he seemed intent on single-handedly redefining the possibilities of the modern game. It was fitting that Éamonn Fitzmaurice turned yesterday to that “signature performance” for his outstanding memory of Gooch: A step backwards and a perfectly weighted pass that led to a goal. In Kerry, heroes slip quietly into the pantheon and are soon replaced, but the affection in the county for Colm Cooper was unique. Kerry people viewed him with a mixture of awe and protectiveness. He was the only player ever to inspire Kerry folk to imitate the tributes paid to players by supporters on the terraces of England every week. The regular chant of “Goooch! Goooch! Gooch!.” that greeted each new moment of wizardry was a joyous thing. He was revered in Kerry as a beacon of tradition in a time of change, but also as a one-off, a unique distillation of skills, both modern and ancient. I know a few people who would go to Tralee and Killarney for league games and head for the best vantage point on a sparsely populated terrace just to observe Gooch at play. At half-time they would switch ends in search of another fix. I recall Mikey Sheehy, whose own decision to retire was the subject of 20-page supplement in The Kerryman, saying that he sometimes did the same thing. The man who poet Gabriel Fitzmaurice called “Nureyev with a football”, a corner forward on the GAA’s team of the millennium, Mikey was as much in thrall to Gooch as the rest of us. And there was so much to admire. From his debut in the National League Final in 2002 and the moment he turned Laois cornerback Pauric Leonard inside out before also rounding the other cornerback, Paul McDonald, and coolly sidefooting past the advancing Fergal Byron right through to his Croke Park swansong with his beloved Dr Crokes on All-Ireland Club final Day last month, Gooch gave lovers of football everywhere more joy than any player that came before him. Think of all the landmark GAA moments that the Kerry footballers have been part of this past decade and a half that have Cooper’s craft, his audacity and his boldness franked all over them. The 2002 All-Ireland semi-final against Cork, where he and Anthony Lynch began a rivalry that would last until then start of the next decade. Cooper has spoken before of his respect for Anthony Lynch as a defender of goals but surely nobody defined and maybe, haunted Lynch’s career as much as he. Then there was the 2003 game against Tyrone, when the game changed irrevocably but Cooper merely adapted when others couldn’t. 2004 brought his first All-Ireland title and a man-of- the match performance to boot but very few people remark on the fact that he hardly touched the ball during the first 20 minutes. The defiance, the patience and the tenacity he displayed to wear his way into that game stood out for me as a hallmark of a great sportsman. He was hauled to the ground in the final seconds of the 2005 final as Kerry chased the goal that would bring them back from the brink. Opposing teams knew by then that by keeping Cooper out of the attacking movement, the likelihood of a Kerry goal was seriously diminished. The way he instructed and cajoled Killian Young into his pass for Declan O’Sullivan’s crucial goal in the All-Ireland semi-final of 2007 against Dublin showed his instinct for finding space where there was none. When Darran O’Sullivan and Mike McCarthy went rampaging down the middle to startle the Dublin earwigs in 2009, nobody knew better than Gooch how to step aside and receive the pass ahead of the game. The rest was just Gooch doing what Gooch does. His knack of knowing what to do, his killer solo, his speed of thought and his love of a billowing net (to Gooch, a point was always mere consolation — goals first) marked him out during those years when Kerry reached six All-Ireland finals on the trot. Those traits were in evidence again in the latter stages of the ill-fated 2010 quarter-final against Down as a desperate Kerry chased the game. He saw two passes that day that demand repeated viewing to truly appreciate them. As a footballer, Cooper achieved everything but the price of consistent excellence meant that he also endured more disappointment than most. Losing the 2011 All-Ireland in the manner Kerry did and in the year when he more than most had earned the right to represent Dr Crokes as captain, was especially painful. It was fitting, however, that he announced his retirement from Kerry having just won the title he craved most. His unbridled joy at finally reaching the summit with his own hinted that for Gooch nothing could better this. Having earlier scored a crucial goal, he emerged again in the final moments of that All Ireland Club final to maintain possession, spraying the ball around to break the will of his opponents. A man at one with a size 5, and at peace with himself. In a few days time he will tog out with the Crokes in a county league game against our own Gaeltacht team. After all he has achieved in the green and gold, he returns once again to the jersey he wore first. It will feel like the game described in Séamus Heaney’s great poem, Markings... “a game that never need be played out Some limit had been passed, There was fleetness, furtherance, untiredness In time that was extra, unforeseen and free” Colm Cooper was and is a hell of a player. I hope he enjoys his days back in the black and amber.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 5, 2017 18:31:38 GMT
Thanks for posting it. Outstanding piece of writing. No more to say after that...
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Post by falveyb2k on Apr 5, 2017 19:42:07 GMT
When Mikey Sheehy finished up in 87, everybody thought we'd never see his like again but Maurice Fitz arrived in 88. Likewise in 01 when Maurice finished we thought we wouldn't see it again until the gooch appeared in 02. Could we ever be so lucky again?
The Gooch was a joy to behold, all the more amazing given his slight frame and the lack of protection from off the ball merchants(our sport is the only one where you actually gain from targeting an individual away from the play). He played football in a way people hadn't dreamed of before and gave us moments we'll remember forever. It's hard to believe he'll never play for Kerry again, he could go for another few years even if he lost the burst of pace he had and you would hope he could have a change of heart in a few months. Regardless, he's given more than enough to the cause and we'll still get to watch him play club football. We were blessed and spoiled to see him in the flesh
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Post by kerryfanatic on Apr 5, 2017 20:32:51 GMT
What a fantastic player, an inspiration to all. Am gutted he is retiring...and hoping he will change his mind like some before him. Best of luck Gooch in all you do...we will miss watching you in that kerry Jersey...whole heart thanks for all the precious memories and happy moments you provided us :-)
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Post by Ballyfireside on Apr 5, 2017 21:52:35 GMT
When Mikey Sheehy finished up in 87, everybody thought we'd never see his like again but Maurice Fitz arrived in 88. Likewise in 01 when Maurice finished we thought we wouldn't see it again until the gooch appeared in 02. Could we ever be so lucky again? The Gooch was a joy to behold, all the more amazing given his slight frame and the lack of protection from off the ball merchants(our sport is the only one where you actually gain from targeting an individual away from the play). He played football in a way people hadn't dreamed of before and gave us moments we'll remember forever. It's hard to believe he'll never play for Kerry again, he could go for another few years even if he lost the burst of pace he had and you would hope he could have a change of heart in a few months. Regardless, he's given more than enough to the cause and we'll still get to watch him play club football. We were blessed and spoiled to see him in the flesh The standard is constantly increasing gradually, what with techniques, nutrition, etc, although some say it is no longer football. 'Freaks' follow, well a freakish pattern, you could get 2 Gooch's next year and none for decades, I suppose vintage crop teams are also sporadic like that and there would be similarities therein. You also have a n accumulation of expertise handed down, ranging from seeing what is on display to what management teams accumulate that they may not share. I'd know all this (!!!) from the extensive research I do in The Kerry Ingredient, though the head of genetics at TCD laughs at me, his theory, theory that is, is that football bloodlines are statistical coincidences, just imagine -if he was only 1% right could be the richest man in the world placing bets that say 10 sons of former stars will win Celtic Crosses. And don't UCD get grants to do this on horses and sure then you have Coolmore and the sheiks - still none of 'em have cracked it! And I'm tellin' no one nathin'! Now here's an interesting one, was Colm also the most blackguarded player of his era?
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Post by thebluepanther on Apr 5, 2017 22:40:50 GMT
The best,most skillful and a wonderful Kerryman. Wonderful tributes from GAA fans all over Ireland but Jim Gavin could only say " he was the best Kerry forward". Maybe we can help Jim with his retirement plan in 2017 . Considering the amount of top class forwards Kerry have produced over the years, I'd consider it a great compliment. The Gooch was a beautiful player to watch , great vision and skill. The Gooch showed his skills on the big stage in the big games and being part of a great Kerry team that got to many AllIreland finals certainly helped . This allowed him flourish and brought out the best in him. Kerry were a good match for the Gooch and the Gooch a good match for Kerry. Many seriously talented players have come and gone from weaker counties who never got the opportunities to play in big games and never got the plaudits. So statements of the greatest ever by some can't be quantified. Or others annoyed that some Dubs aren't shouting from the roof tops declaring his greatness are missing the point. They dont have to as it doesnt matter As the Gooch said himself he got to fulfill his dream, good luck to him whatever he does going forward.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Apr 5, 2017 23:54:16 GMT
As for O'Cinneide I'm always watching out for good stuff to mine for my own writing, the problem with Dara is that I risk cramping his eloquence as he already takes it to the limit. He is normally an excellent literary scribe and which is rare enough for a journalist but the above article is exceptional again in that the passion rings through loud and clear -if you never knew him you would know that he could only be calling it as it is, and describing the paranormal.
I think Gooch is like water on tap, we will only miss it when he is not on the field.
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Post by Jo90 on Apr 6, 2017 8:35:49 GMT
Now here's an interesting one, was Colm also the most blackguarded player of his era?I'd say Peter Canavan saw much worse for club and county. Canavan even had his jaw broken in 3 places in a club challenge match.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Apr 6, 2017 10:28:40 GMT
Now here's an interesting one, was Colm also the most blackguarded player of his era?I'd say Peter Canavan saw much worse for club and county. Canavan even had his jaw broken in 3 places in a club challenge match. Ah yeah, didn't McGuickan almost lose an eye in a club match, watched games on TV face down in hospital for months as he recovered. Did Canavan get it rough outside Ulster?, as rough as Colm?
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Post by hugh20 on Apr 6, 2017 13:58:09 GMT
Gooch's disciplinary record is exemplary considering the level of "special attention" that was paid to him. Ryan McMenamin had to resort to sticking his fingers up his a**e and pinching him in order to try and quieten him. I cannot recall him getting sent off for a disciplinary issue but I may be wrong. He received his marching orders a handful of times throughout his club and inter county career but I cant remember any times for striking or reacting to provocation. When one contrasts his record to that of Diarmuid Connollys, I find it laughable that people mention him in the same breath. Connolly gets his fair share of special attention and that will keep happening until he learns how to curtail himself, he must be the easiest player of all time to provoke.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Apr 6, 2017 14:04:38 GMT
Gooch's disciplinary record is exemplary considering the level of "special attention" that was paid to him. Ryan McMenamin had to resort to sticking his fingers up his a**e and pinching him in order to try and quieten him. I cannot recall him getting sent off for a disciplinary issue but I may be wrong. He received his marching orders a handful of times throughout his club and inter county career but I cant remember any times for striking or reacting to provocation. When one contrasts his record to that of Diarmuid Connollys, I find it laughable that people mention him in the same breath. Connolly gets his fair share of special attention and that will keep happening until he learns how to curtail himself, he must be the easiest player of all time to provoke. To be fair I haven't heard much comparison with Connolly. Connolly is incredibly gifted that is for sure... after that, well, if you've nothing nice to say...
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Post by hugh20 on Apr 6, 2017 14:24:33 GMT
There have been quite a few comparisons on social media but you are correct in that there are not many comparisons here. I am a great admirer of Connolly, an absolute quality player with an endless amount of ability but he needs to improve on this side of his game. It kind of veered into this with the talk of players who have been blackguarded the most. True, I got side tracked. Back to Colm, the greatesr footballer of all time
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Post by Jo90 on Apr 6, 2017 15:54:51 GMT
I'd say Peter Canavan saw much worse for club and county. Canavan even had his jaw broken in 3 places in a club challenge match. Ah yeah, didn't McGuickan almost lose an eye in a club match, watched games on TV face down in hospital for months as he recovered. Did Canavan get it rough outside Ulster?, as rough as Colm? Maybe not but that's like asking did the Israelites have it rough after they wandered through the desert?
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Post by boots on Apr 6, 2017 20:25:25 GMT
It's hard to know what way to feel about losing Colm. While kerry football will continue to produce top class footballers, it's difficult not to feel sad when you fully take in the fact that we'll never see his brilliance in green and gold ever again. I feel glad to have been around to watch his entire intercounty career and feel very thankful and grateful for being able to see a genius in his prime.
Croke park really won't be the same next Sunday without him.
Thank you Colm, you've given us all more joy that you'll ever know.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 6, 2017 20:35:12 GMT
Nice video there
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Post by fenit67 on Apr 6, 2017 20:51:58 GMT
Thank you Colm, a million times thank you. That goal against Mayo, the goal in 2007 and a thousand feints and thrusts that gave defenders twisted blood. Quite simply there are too many moments that merit mention. There are many county defenders who will rest easier but for Kerry's club defenders a ginger shape lurks in their nightmares for some years to come.
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Post by Chinatown on Apr 7, 2017 7:41:34 GMT
Gooch's disciplinary record is exemplary considering the level of "special attention" that was paid to him. Ryan McMenamin had to resort to sticking his fingers up his a**e and pinching him in order to try and quieten him. I cannot recall him getting sent off for a disciplinary issue but I may be wrong. He received his marching orders a handful of times throughout his club and inter county career but I cant remember any times for striking or reacting to provocation. When one contrasts his record to that of Diarmuid Connollys, I find it laughable that people mention him in the same breath. Connolly gets his fair share of special attention and that will keep happening until he learns how to curtail himself, he must be the easiest player of all time to provoke. To be fair I haven't heard much comparison with Connolly. Connolly is incredibly gifted that is for sure... after that, well, if you've nothing nice to say... '..If you've nothing nice to say...' sure if that was the modus operandi then this auld forum would wilt fairly lively. There is only one thing worse than being talked about .....'. Sure isn't it a fair compliment to DC to get a mention on this thread if only as a contrast.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Apr 7, 2017 11:33:27 GMT
To be fair I haven't heard much comparison with Connolly. Connolly is incredibly gifted that is for sure... after that, well, if you've nothing nice to say... '..If you've nothing nice to say...' sure if that was the modus operandi then this auld forum would wilt fairly lively. There is only one thing worse than being talked about .....'. Sure isn't it a fair compliment to DC to get a mention on this thread if only as a contrast. Connolly was genuinely at one with Keegan after the '16 final and that wasn't so bad for two blue bloodeds just after finishing such a tortuous encounter where the tempo was through the roof. Ah they'd be well met as a right pair of hoors and a bit of a boyo in 'em too but one must also see the good side of two exceptional talents. MDM has similar traits and I wonder that as KD said if we took the game to the Dubs, and Tyrone who can also take such liberties, then they mightn't try it on with us. We are made of metal too and we mustn't believe that our class alone will win games. You can have all the class you like but it is no good when the other fella has the ball -it is a simple enough game where possession is nine tenths of winning. For me this mixing it is the challenge for Kerry football for the foreseeable future and mastering it will win games against anyone -it's that ability to outplay the opponent regardless of how they play -they name the game, you out perform them and then you can dictate the terms of engagement! Easier said than done of course but we have all the ingredients with the talent that was always there anyway. The big b[problem in any organisation/community is 'blockages' caused by having the wrong people involved, a bad manager can lose a county a generation of talent as the window to make that breakthrough is narrow enough -a bad manager has a domino effect as he will put other wrong people in the wrong place. Now Kerry GAA don't have that issue and I can personally trace some traits back as far as Dwyer and it is the constant adding to it that makes us what we are -being ourside the county makes it easier to see, we take things for granted that others simple haven't got. So we have the ingredients, have we the recipe? Mass is ended, go and serve the Lord!
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Post by Dermot on Apr 7, 2017 15:08:00 GMT
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Post by Chinatown on Apr 7, 2017 18:34:16 GMT
'..If you've nothing nice to say...' sure if that was the modus operandi then this auld forum would wilt fairly lively. There is only one thing worse than being talked about .....'. Sure isn't it a fair compliment to DC to get a mention on this thread if only as a contrast. Connolly was genuinely at one with Keegan after the '16 final and that wasn't so bad for two blue bloodeds just after finishing such a tortuous encounter where the tempo was through the roof. Ah they'd be well met as a right pair of hoors and a bit of a boyo in 'em too but one must also see the good side of two exceptional talents. MDM has similar traits and I wonder that as KD said if we took the game to the Dubs, and Tyrone who can also take such liberties, then they mightn't try it on with us. We are made of metal too and we mustn't believe that our class alone will win games. You can have all the class you like but it is no good when the other fella has the ball -it is a simple enough game where possession is nine tenths of winning. For me this mixing it is the challenge for Kerry football for the foreseeable future and mastering it will win games against anyone -it's that ability to outplay the opponent regardless of how they play -they name the game, you out perform them and then you can dictate the terms of engagement! Easier said than done of course but we have all the ingredients with the talent that was always there anyway. The big b[problem in any organisation/community is 'blockages' caused by having the wrong people involved, a bad manager can lose a county a generation of talent as the window to make that breakthrough is narrow enough -a bad manager has a domino effect as he will put other wrong people in the wrong place. Now Kerry GAA don't have that issue and I can personally trace some traits back as far as Dwyer and it is the constant adding to it that makes us what we are -being ourside the county makes it easier to see, we take things for granted that others simple haven't got. So we have the ingredients, have we the recipe? Mass is ended, go and serve the Lord!
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Post by beantownfan on Apr 7, 2017 21:19:01 GMT
Could you copy and paste the full article by any chance. Dara is kerrys best scribe by a mile in my opinion Here you go! DARA O'CINNEIDE: Nobody has moved us like Colm Cooper............................ He was hauled to the ground in the final seconds of the 2005 final as Kerry chased the goal that would bring them back from the brink. Opposing teams knew by then that by keeping Cooper out of the attacking movement, the likelihood of a Kerry goal was seriously diminished. ........................ I was in the upper hogan for this game, and had a birds eye view of this incident. I was never so incensed leaving a game. Peter "the great" took it on himself to literally jump up on Gooch and haul him to the ground. I lost all respect for Canavan after that. It was one of the most un-sportsmanly moves I've seen on any sports field! We're no angles in the Kingdom, and the cynicism that has crept in of late is certainly worrying, but "this beat all" as my father used to say! Farewell to the Gooch, what a joy to watch all these years! I grew up watching Maurice Fitz and thought after '97 we'd never see better, but along came the Red Headed wonder to entertain us for 15 years, if we ever find his equal it will be nothing short of amazing!
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 7, 2017 22:01:08 GMT
I was on the upper stand at the canal end for the 2002 final and the sight of this skinny guy with the jersey too big in the vacinity of Francie Bellow in the second half was lets say...disconcerting. I remember Noel Kennelly driving a bad wide early on in the second half and Colm pointed to the posts and remonstrated with him as if to say "you are supposed to kick it over the bar". Remarkably ballsy for a young lad.
Colms ability to fetch over his head was one of his main advantages... any ball high or low was his ball....then the turn like the hare evading the greyhound and the ruthless eye for the goal set him apart.
Francie could have finished him in 2002 if he wanted to. Very glad we only lost just the all ireland final
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Post by Ballyfireside on Apr 7, 2017 22:05:44 GMT
Connolly was genuinely at one with Keegan after the '16 final and that wasn't so bad for two blue bloodeds just after finishing such a tortuous encounter where the tempo was through the roof. Ah they'd be well met as a right pair of hoors and a bit of a boyo in 'em too but one must also see the good side of two exceptional talents. MDM has similar traits and I wonder that as KD said if we took the game to the Dubs, and Tyrone who can also take such liberties, then they mightn't try it on with us. We are made of metal too and we mustn't believe that our class alone will win games. You can have all the class you like but it is no good when the other fella has the ball -it is a simple enough game where possession is nine tenths of winning. For me this mixing it is the challenge for Kerry football for the foreseeable future and mastering it will win games against anyone -it's that ability to outplay the opponent regardless of how they play -they name the game, you out perform them and then you can dictate the terms of engagement! Easier said than done of course but we have all the ingredients with the talent that was always there anyway. The big b[problem in any organisation/community is 'blockages' caused by having the wrong people involved, a bad manager can lose a county a generation of talent as the window to make that breakthrough is narrow enough -a bad manager has a domino effect as he will put other wrong people in the wrong place. Now Kerry GAA don't have that issue and I can personally trace some traits back as far as Dwyer and it is the constant adding to it that makes us what we are -being ourside the county makes it easier to see, we take things for granted that others simple haven't got. So we have the ingredients, have we the recipe? Mass is ended, go and serve the Lord! Have you any friends you can talk to?
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Post by tyroneperson on Apr 8, 2017 4:09:36 GMT
Here you go! DARA O'CINNEIDE: Nobody has moved us like Colm Cooper............................ He was hauled to the ground in the final seconds of the 2005 final as Kerry chased the goal that would bring them back from the brink. Opposing teams knew by then that by keeping Cooper out of the attacking movement, the likelihood of a Kerry goal was seriously diminished. ........................ I was in the upper hogan for this game, and had a birds eye view of this incident. I was never so incensed leaving a game. Peter "the great" took it on himself to literally jump up on Gooch and haul him to the ground. I lost all respect for Canavan after that. It was one of the most un-sportsmanly moves I've seen on any sports field! We're no angles in the Kingdom, and the cynicism that has crept in of late is certainly worrying, but "this beat all" as my father used to say! Farewell to the Gooch, what a joy to watch all these years! I grew up watching Maurice Fitz and thought after '97 we'd never see better, but along came the Red Headed wonder to entertain us for 15 years, if we ever find his equal it will be nothing short of amazing! It was a cynical challenge but it was hardly unprecedented. In fact, Tomas O'Se was dragged down about two seconds earlier by Ryan McMenamin - in a much more dramatic fashion, at that - and nobody seems to care. Poor Tomas gets no sympathy.
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Post by bomberliston on Apr 8, 2017 10:28:59 GMT
Enjoy your retirement Gooch. It was a pleasure watching you wear the green and gold.
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Post by Exiled2Dublin on Apr 8, 2017 11:26:41 GMT
There's a horse called "The Young Master" running in the Grand National today. He's number 13 and to cap it all, he's running in green and gold (ok, yellowish) colours. An omen? Price about 16/1. Might be worth an each way bet in honour of the great man😀
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Post by Ballyfireside on Apr 8, 2017 11:28:12 GMT
There's a horse called "The Young Master" running in the Grand National today. He's number 13 and to cap it all, he's running in green and gold (ok, yellowish) colours. An omen? Price about 16/1. Might be worth an each way bet in honour of the great man😀 Triskaidekaphobia, fear of No 13!
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Post by Exiled2Dublin on Apr 8, 2017 12:02:22 GMT
There's a horse called "The Young Master" running in the Grand National today. He's number 13 and to cap it all, he's running in green and gold (ok, yellowish) colours. An omen? Price about 16/1. Might be worth an each way bet in honour of the great man😀 Triskaidekaphobia, fear of No 13! I suppose he must be from Cork😃
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