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Post by taggert on Dec 1, 2016 23:49:58 GMT
Remarkable stuff. Still accessible via podcast.
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Post by Control5 on Dec 2, 2016 8:14:51 GMT
Whatever you say, say nothing!
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Post by Jigz84 on Dec 2, 2016 9:10:51 GMT
Just listened to the podcast, an awkward end!
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Dec 2, 2016 9:56:59 GMT
Podcast is at www.newstalk.com/podcasts/ its about 3 rows down McCarron came accross as very self serving during the whole interview. A wholly un-likeable fella to be totally honest. Seems to blame everyone for his own failings. Blames people for not pressing charges against him as they enabled him. Blames people for pressing charges against him as they didn't understand his disease. Blames the breakup of his parents marriage for his gambling problem. Donaghy's parents broke up and his father was a gambler. It didn't make him into such an a**hole like McCarron I didn't realise he had such a history of violence until it was called out by Ger Gilroy. How he hasn't seen jail i'll never know. I understand why he wasn't convicted of anything with the underage girl with 'honest mistake' etc. But, calling himself a victim. Speaking to a legal friend the reason he won't say sorry is because he is harming his defense if the girl takes a civil case. And lets be honest the reason he did the book is probably to pay off his gambling debts and make some cash. If this girl wins a civil case all that cash will be gone. Also did anyone else find it odd given his own inability to admit his mistakes and take responsibility that he is training to be a psychotherapist? Finally, thought it was a great interview by Ger Gilroy. No skirting around the issues and gave it to him straight
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Post by ruralgaa on Dec 2, 2016 10:28:16 GMT
The interview on Off the Ball with Cathal McCarron that just ended needs to be heard to be believed. Given the way it ended it might not be on the podcast or playback. It was on the podcast last night anyway. I downloaded it but i haven't heard it yet....
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Post by jackiel on Dec 2, 2016 11:59:40 GMT
I listened to it last night, after seeing comments on here. Really didn't warm to him in any way. He kept going on about how nobody understands what he'd been through in the last few years. Lots of people go through stuff but don't turn into violent, self obsessed lumps. To be honest I cant see how he would be capable of counselling anyone, I don't think he has actually made a recovery at all. I certainly wont be buying the book.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Dec 2, 2016 20:32:31 GMT
Fair play to Ger Gilroy first he takes on Armstrong then he asks the hard questions against McCarron. McCarron came across as a very unlikable individual. The violence I couldn't believe and the young girl incident turned my stomach. I'd have to ask how he can represent his county with a record like his.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2016 21:27:40 GMT
No bigger hypocrite in the gaa than mickey Harte
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Post by Mickmack on Dec 4, 2016 19:56:20 GMT
Thu, Dec 1, 2016, 07:00 Cliona Foley
You’ve been nominated at corner-back so you’re there in the good gúna, putting on the ritz at the most blingtastic night of the camogie calendar, the All Stars awards in November 2015.
Few in the City West ballroom know that your pre-All Stars’ routine has been dramatically different from that of your fellow-nominees.
Less than 48 hours ago you were in hospital, getting an epidural blood patch. It involved taking blood out of your arm and injecting it straight back into your spine to restore the proper pressure to your brain and relieve the blinding headaches and dizziness caused by a misplaced lumbar puncture a week earlier. That was just the latest of a baffling sudden raft of tests on your body/brain that have gone by in a blur. Yet, what’s really bugging you tonight is that your club team, Oulart-the-Ballagh, which you captain, is playing a Leinster club final tomorrow and you can’t play. That’s because, less than four weeks ago, you were told you have Multiple Sclerosis.
The most remarkable thing about Ciara Storey (26) is not her bubbly, awe-inspiring positivity and complete lack of self-pity over the diagnosis that hit her completely from left-field a year ago. What is really extraordinary is how well the 5ft 10in corner-back played this year for a resurgent Wexford who took Cork to extra-time in the All-Ireland semi-finals. Storey played every single minute of every 2016 league and championship game bar one. “I got taken off against Tipperary [All-Ireland quarter-final] but that wasn’t the MS, that was just a bad day!” she chuckles.
MS is a progressive neuromuscular disease that 9,000 Irish people live with, more common in women (3:1) but affecting men more severely. Storey, blessed with a sunny, laid-back demeanour, is in remission at present and it’s just over a year since her body suddenly started to betray her.
Confirmation of her condition heaped further anguish on a family already unfairly overburdened. Ciara is the middle child of Wexford hurling legend Martin Storey and wife, Rosaleen, and their only daughter. A year before her illness struck their youngest – Martin Óg (19) – was diagnosed with cancer in his mouth. The first thing she noticed was blurring and intermittent loss of vision in her right eye.
Then came tingling and numbness in her mouth which spread to her arm and legs, followed by loss of co-ordination. “After the whole thing with Ogie a year before I really thought I had cancer in my eye so, when the doctor told me it was MS I was relieved in one way,” she reveals. “It was shocking, but honestly, I felt so sick at the time, at least I knew what was wrong.” Ogie escaped chemo or radium but had the roof of his mouth removed and rebuilt with fat off the inside of his cheeks. “His speech was a little affected but they’re confident they got it all and he’s flying now. He came on and scored a point in the county final last year and scored a goal in the Leinster Championship recently,” she adds proudly. Successful return See, in the Storey household, everything is parsed, analysed and scheduled through hurling, even serious illness. Brain scans showed up the bright orange patches that confirmed Ciara’s initial MS flare-up but, to see if it was in her spine (which it isn’t), a lumbar puncture was needed. With the 2015 county final against Rathnure less than a week away she somehow charmed her medics to delay it. “The doctor was very good, put me on steroids, did all the other tests and let me out on the Saturday morning. I wasn’t very good, shouldn’t have been playing and got taken off . . . and it was a draw!” she laughs. After telling her closest friends and Oulart’s management she was insistent that the rest of the team wasn’t informed until after the game. “There’s more to life than sport obviously but it nearly got me through it because there wasn’t time to sit at home and feel sorry for myself. You just had to trot on.” Storey was too sick to play in the replay, or in their subsequent Leinster campaign, yet has since made a remarkably successful return for club and county, thanks to medication, lifestyle changes and her own phenomenal determination. She injects herself twice monthly in the stomach or leg with a pen-syringe, has eradicated all dairy and even bananas from her diet (“terrible hard when you play sport!”) and drinks a filtrated water called Kangen that she finds helpful. There’s still ongoing limb pain but nothing as bad as the initial flare-up but two other MS symptoms – fatigue and insomnia – affect her badly. “And not being able to eat cheese, I miss my cheese!” she quips. She may actually have suffered her first MS episode while in Australia in 2012-2013 as some scarring was found on her brain, but she is not looking back, only forward. Storey’s two families – blood and camogie – have provided great support and her sporting network has a long reach. Lighter hurls She was a nine-year-old sub when she took part in the first of five Féile (All-Ireland U14) finals with Oulart’ and won three. She was only 16 when she first played senior for Wexford in goals. She’s since won two senior All-Irelands with them and two more with the club with whom she’s won 12 of their 14 Wexford senior titles.
She worked for six years as a beautician in Monart, the world famous spa outside Enniscorthy owned by ex-Wexford hurling boss Liam Griffin, another who has offered unseen support like the free gym membership that keeps her constantly active, which helps. Her illness, ironically, struck just when she’d started a pre-nursing course locally but she completed it with very few missed classes and is now doing a degree in Applied Social Studies in Carlow IT , through their Wexford campus. “I’ll be playing Purcell Cup for Carlow this year which is great after getting knocked out of the [Leinster] club,” she says cheerfully, still unable to calibrate life’s vicious swings and roundabouts without her sport. Her only concession to her condition was to get lighter hurls. She never once contemplated giving up camogie and just agreed some protocols with her various team managements if she is ever struggling, which has been rare. Her illness, paradoxically, may have helped Storey become even more skilful. “When you feel you might be a little behind the other girls physically, well I sort of felt I had to make my hurling a little bit better and possibly trained a little bit harder. “A few other young girls who have it contacted me when they heard I’ve got it because they’ve seen me playing and able to do everything. “When people hear ‘MS’ they think the worst. Some people who get it think ‘that’s it now!’ but everyone is different and has their own personal story. I think that no matter how tired you are you’ll still feel better after exercise. “When you get the diagnosis they tell you not to get your hopes up because, when you get an episode your co-ordination mightn’t come back, or it mightn’t come back to 100 per cent,” she explains. “I might never have another episode or I might get one next week so you kinda just make the most of it. “When it happened I was probably more worried about Mammy and Daddy,” she admits. “I’d been in Australia for two years and Anthony was in Canada for four. We all came back around the same time, and then Ogie got sick, and then me. It was a tough time for them but Mammy and Daddy [both nurses] are able for it all.” Check-ups with her neurologist are now down to every six months, Ogie is well again and they recently celebrated Anthony’s engagement; some deserved and long overdue joy for a Wexford hurling family who have provided so much of it for their club and county.
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Post by southward on Dec 4, 2016 20:20:21 GMT
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Post by ddtinexile on Dec 4, 2016 22:11:00 GMT
A brilliant article by Joe. Best he has ever written and it's right on the button. Fair play to him. No matter what we think of him he calls a spade a spade.. I think it's a mighty piece.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Dec 5, 2016 9:35:40 GMT
I think he misses a slight trick: does the GAA use the flag and anthem of the state? I think if there is to be a United Ireland it is inevitable that the flag and anthem will change. However, the GAA could choose to still use the tricolour and Amhrán na bhFiann if they so chose.
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Post by kerrygold on Dec 5, 2016 9:55:02 GMT
Brolly is a top class writer when he cuts the bull* from his pieces. His better articles are always very readable.
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Post by jackiel on Dec 5, 2016 10:32:14 GMT
Standing facing the flag singing the anthem before a match is part of the whole experience. All Ireland Final day in Croke Park, 82,000 of us all singing together makes the hairs stand on the back of your neck. I would hate to see it changed. Personally I feel the Irish are way too apologetic, we give in too easily to the Americanised PC crap which is infiltrating all walks of life.
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Post by givehimaball on Dec 5, 2016 11:59:01 GMT
I love to know what prompted O'Fearghail to bring up the flag and anthem stuff at all, especial considering there's no serious talk about any changes to the status quo in the political situation.
Talk about opening up a can of worms for zero benefit.
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Post by kerrygold on Dec 5, 2016 13:33:31 GMT
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Post by buck02 on Dec 5, 2016 13:34:07 GMT
When Brolly criticises Kerry or a Kerry player in the Indo or Sunday game there is usually blue murder here.
When he writes an article or says something then that people agree with the article is posted up and he gets claps on the back from the same people who have previously put a kind of Kerry fatwa on him! I find it funny.
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Post by glengael on Dec 5, 2016 16:41:19 GMT
When Brolly criticises Kerry or a Kerry player in the Indo or Sunday game there is usually blue murder here. When he writes an article or says something then that people agree with the article is posted up and he gets claps on the back from the same people who have previously put a kind of Kerry fatwa on him! I find it funny. You know what they say about Freedom of Speech Buck, tis grand as long as you agree with what's being said. I don't read or watch Brolly and haven't for years and I won't be making any exception now! Givehimtheball, I think the GAA president was abroad with the All Stars tour to wherever-exotic-they-went when he made those comments. The question was a real hypothetical one about what the GAA might do in a Post-Brexit Ireland or some such pointless speculation. It was , to my mind, a nothing question given the present situation and he replied to it in more length and depth than he needed to and because it's slow GAA news season, it made headline news...
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Post by kerrygold on Dec 5, 2016 16:45:28 GMT
Brolly generally talks bull* when writing about Kerry. Seems to be some inbuilt malfunction.
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Post by southward on Dec 5, 2016 20:04:38 GMT
When Brolly criticises Kerry or a Kerry player in the Indo or Sunday game there is usually blue murder here. When he writes an article or says something then that people agree with the article is posted up and he gets claps on the back from the same people who have previously put a kind of Kerry fatwa on him! I find it funny. I'd see it as taking a particular article on its own merits. Without prejudice, like. See no reason to apologise for that. Anyway, we're forgiving, Christian folk down here.
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Post by kerryexile on Dec 6, 2016 8:30:21 GMT
When Brolly criticises Kerry or a Kerry player in the Indo or Sunday game there is usually blue murder here. When he writes an article or says something then that people agree with the article is posted up and he gets claps on the back from the same people who have previously put a kind of Kerry fatwa on him! I find it funny. I'd see it as taking a particular article on its own merits. Without prejudice, like. See no reason to apologise for that. Anyway, we're forgiving, Christian folk down here. I din't see any contradiction. Brolly is a reasonably good social commentator. As a football analyst he has huge prejudices that prevent him from being balanced, sometimes to the point of sounding idiotic in his comments e.g. "Gooch is a choker..."
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Post by kerrygold on Dec 6, 2016 11:41:10 GMT
Well said, Hayes before him and McHugh also liked to take a pop at Kerry players for their own kicks not to mention a cohort on TSG in the last decade when Kerry were at their peak.
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Post by kerrygold on Dec 7, 2016 10:39:43 GMT
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Post by Jigz84 on Dec 7, 2016 11:46:23 GMT
www.gaa.ie/football/news/david-gough-wins-shane-hourigan-young-referee-the-year-award/David Gough wins Shane Hourigan Young Referee of the Year AwardSuddenly David Gough's attention was captured at Saturday evening's Referees Banquet in Croke Park. RTE's Joanne Cantwell's was hosting the ceremony with the Shane Hourigan Young Referee of the Year Award being presented. "As Joanne started to list out the achievements of the referee, I started to think, that sounds like a game I refereed," Gough laughs. "It just started to dawn on me the more she spoke, it was a huge surprise. "It was a massive surprise because it is only the second time it has ever been awarded to a referee. I had forgotten it was even on the list because it was something new two years ago, it is lovely to have the award with Shane's name on it and my name on it. A huge surprise, I wasn't expecting it on the night." Having only joined the inter-county panel in 2012 Gough is delighted by the progress made. "I came on to the panel very quick and I moved on to the elite panel within one year,' Gough admits. "For a young referee I spent four years on the elite panel so I have a good lot of Championship games under my belt. "After four years I have two All Ireland Quarter-Finals, an All Ireland Semi-Final done and All Ireland minor and under 21 Finals so I'm really happy." The thought of operating on the significant Championship weekends at Croke Park remains a huge incentive for Gough. "Yeah, it is. Refereeing Dublin and Kerry this year was the first time I refereed in Croke Park in front of a full house. "The atmosphere was absolutely electric. As you progress your refereeing career and get bigger games, the atmosphere within the stadium intensifies. "It is that buzz you get coming out on to the field is what drives you on to make you want to referee games and to be involved in those stages throughout the rest of your career. "It is incredible because the 70 minutes passes you by. People want to speak to you about the game afterwards, they talk about different players and different scores, and who played well and who didn't play well. I, as a referee, wouldn't have a clue. Who played well? How many points they scored? "I think Dean Rock scored an incredible amount of points that day in the All Ireland Semi-Final, I didn't know that, I didn't realise that coming off the field because your mind is in a completely different place. "You don't recognise faces, players or anything. You see a jersey colour and your head is just full of rules and infractions and trying to get decisions right. It is a great atmosphere, but you certainly don't get to sit back and relax to enjoy the game." Remaining focused in the lead up to games is what Gough always tries to do. "I wouldn't pick up a newspaper, I wouldn't be the type to go online sites," Gough says. "Certainly in the preparation in the week before a match you are visualising situations that could occur and wondering how you are going to deal with them. You are revisiting them in your mind and saying 'no that is not how, I need to do something different'. I need to approach that better, you are trying to get to the most optimum decision. "You need to be prepared on the day for all eventualities so that when something happens you have visualised it already and you know you can act in a calm manner to rely on something that you have gone over before. When the player sees that you are calm, you can continue to gain respect throughout the game." Gough is adamant that Gaelic Football has evolved during the past half decade. "Certainly the pace of the games I find are an awful lot quicker. There is an awful lot of hand passing. Cynical play for the most part has gone out of the game which allows for a much more open game of football. That involves an awful lot more running. "We saw recently at our seminar last week we were looking at referee's running in the high nines and low 10s kilometre range throughout the 70 minutes. That is the level you have to get to if you want to stay up with the play to perform at the highest level because the play is going so fast now. "The players are so fit, they don't fatigue, they move at an incredible pace, we have to stay up with the play. That is the biggest change I see, that the pace of the game has increased so much due to a running game, more so than just a foot passing game." Regular interaction with other officials assists referees according to Gough. "It is hugely important that we do meet," the Meath native remarks. "We might only referee nine or 10 inter-county games a year. When you turn up to a venue you'll have three other officials there and it is expected that there is a good level of camaraderie between us. It isn't like an inter-county set-up where we are training two or three nights and a match together at the weekend. You have different officials every weekend. You mightn't have seen one for two, three or four months so it is vitally important to meet up as often as we can to build up a relationship with the other officials. "I have particular friends in Conor Lane and Ciaran Branagan, I know them and their partners quite well. We would stay in constant contact. Cormac Reilly and David Coldrick have been influential figures assisting Gough in his refereeing career. "The other two are the two Meath guys, David Coldrick and Cormac Reilly, who have been a huge source of advice and support for me throughout my whole refereeing career." "Yeah, I would often meet Cormac for a cup of coffee or ring David to say this happened at the weekend, I'm not sure if I dealt with it right, what are your thoughts about it. He might have a different interpretation regarding the wording in a rule so it is great to thrash it out with a referee on the elite panel, who has gone through all of this. "Cormac and David have huge experience when it gets to the latter stages of the All Ireland Championships. David, having done three All Ireland Finals, is a great friend to have to be able to pick up the phone. He will be thoroughly honest and constructive in anything he has to say to you."
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Post by Jigz84 on Dec 7, 2016 11:56:05 GMT
www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/we-were-unfair-on-managers-mayo-star-regrets-player-revolt-35274707.html'We were unfair on managers' - Mayo star regrets player revoltThe player revolt that forced the resignation of Mayo joint-managers Pat Holmes and Noel Connelly last year should never have happened, according to defender Tom Cunniffe. The Castlebar Mitchels man, who left the panel this year to travel to the US, believes the players were unfair on the management duo, whose first season ended in defeat by Dublin in the All-Ireland semi-final replay. "We treated them badly. They should never have had to resign. They deserved a lot better," said Cunniffe. Now based in New York, he said he was speaking out because he felt it was the right thing to do. "Obviously, the initial reaction will be - 'why is he doing this?' Some lads will be annoyed - some might say 'fair play' but whatever happens, I have no problems taking any arrows that come my way if it's any help to Pat and Noel. "They are proud Mayo men who did so much for the county over many years. Their heart will always be in Mayo football." Cunniffe, who joined the Mayo senior panel in 2007, said that a way should have been found to solve any perceived differences between players and management. Instead a majority of the panel voted against Holmes and Connelly continuing for a second year. Cunniffe was among those who voted for their removal initially but subsequently became uneasy over how events were unfolding. "I believe our decision was rash. I felt we should have had a few leaders meet Pat and Noel and go through the various issues that had been raised at the first two meetings. I would have much preferred that," said Cunniffe. He remains fully supportive of his colleagues in their bid to end the All-Ireland drought and believes it will happen in the next year or two. "I would never do anything to upset things but I just want to be fair to Pat and Noel. They went through a lot in the last year and they shouldn't have had to," said Cunniffe.
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Post by buck02 on Dec 7, 2016 12:36:24 GMT
I see the Gough interview ignored the 'elephant in the room' when it came to discussing his handling of the semi final.
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Post by kerrygold on Dec 7, 2016 12:42:14 GMT
I see the Gough interview ignored the 'elephant in the room' when it came to discussing his handling of the semi final. I think he sidestepped it here and chipped to touch! "It is incredible because the 70 minutes passes you by. People want to speak to you about the game afterwards, they talk about different players and different scores, and who played well and who didn't play well. I, as a referee, wouldn't have a clue. Who played well? How many points they scored? "I think Dean Rock scored an incredible amount of points that day in the All Ireland Semi-Final, I didn't know that, I didn't realise that coming off the field because your mind is in a completely different place. "You don't recognise faces, players or anything. You see a jersey colour and your head is just full of rules and infractions and trying to get decisions right. It is a great atmosphere, but you certainly don't get to sit back and relax to enjoy the game." Read more: kerrygaa.proboards.com/thread/6643/winter-talk?page=4#ixzz4S9hVAMtN
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Post by Mickmack on Dec 7, 2016 13:47:08 GMT
www.gaa.ie/football/news/david-gough-wins-shane-hourigan-young-referee-the-year-award/David Gough wins Shane Hourigan Young Referee of the Year AwardCormac Reilly and David Coldrick have been influential figures assisting Gough in his refereeing career. "The other two are the two Meath guys, David Coldrick and Cormac Reilly, who have been a huge source of advice and support for me throughout my whole refereeing career." "Yeah, I would often meet Cormac for a cup of coffee or ring David to say this happened at the weekend, I'm not sure if I dealt with it right, what are your thoughts about it. He might have a different interpretation regarding the wording in a rule so it is great to thrash it out with a referee on the elite panel, who has gone through all of this. "Cormac and David have huge experience when it gets to the latter stages of the All Ireland Championships. David, having done three All Ireland Finals, is a great friend to have to be able to pick up the phone. He will be thoroughly honest and constructive in anything he has to say to you." Coldrick works for Irish Life and was the linesman who missed the black card by John Small. I dont know it it was he that spoke to the ref about the Lee Keegan red card but certainly the ref initial signal to Connolly was that it was a jersey tug and not a black card. Happily, it all worked out for Irish Life as Philly and SAM were pre-booked before the replay took place. www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/you-can-get-your-photo-taken-with-philly-mcmahon-and-the-sam-maguire--two-days-after-the-all-ireland-replay-756290.html
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2016 22:29:43 GMT
Gough is living in his own f*cking world
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Post by kerrygold on Dec 8, 2016 9:48:54 GMT
Gough is living in his own f*cking world It must be some type of Utopian wonderland if he was oblivious to the tackle on Peter Crowley in injury time. It is staggering how many of these calls go in favour of the Dubs in big Croker games. You'd like your top refs to be in the moment rather than being off in their own world.
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