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Post by wideball on Dec 13, 2016 18:24:09 GMT
Wasn't at the match myself so can't comment on who should have been man of the match and also can't compare him to Brendan O''Sullivan for the same reason. Just thought you were jumping the gun. I was in attendance when these teams meet in the county league a game which ballydonghue won well. Eamon Walsh didn't stand out on that day or maybe he wasn't playing? He was plagued with injury down the years, cruciate, etc. Ah you'd hardly blame a fell for getting carried away watching that performance, and there is no less than 15 on the bench, yes, 15, many from recent county minor winning panel and also including an ex Kerry minor. Could be our Golden era, now all we need is for it to work vs Senans and that will be a big wan as they have a habit of putting opponents to bed good and early, min winning margin in all their games is 11 points, some record. Listowel is the place to be on Sunday, Croke Park eat your heart out! Nothing better than north Kerry final day. A golden generation for both ballydonoghue and st.senans I think. Possibly dominating north Kerry for years and having a great rivalry in the process.
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Post by thechosenone on Dec 13, 2016 19:16:42 GMT
Ah lads. Relax with the hyperbole.
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Post by clancy on Dec 15, 2016 10:13:21 GMT
Ah lads. Relax with the hyperbole. i agree it would be hyperbole if other clubs in NK looked like challengeing from underage up to snr in the next few years , but they don't. This might be for a different forum but it's NK so I'll put it here. Bar emmets ,the two finalists and b'duff who come with an *. The rest of NK is in crisis underage , which will inivitably cause trouble at snr level sooner or later. Let me say I'm the first to recognise success at UAge does not guarantee same at snr, however when all round you is falling to bits it makes the standard poorer so give strong underage clubs better odds. *bduff snr team nearly fielding for whatever reason (hurling , lack of interest) UAge flying up to u16's but then they can hardly field at minors so one has to ask will it continue. I know population is a factor but let's start at the top. Bar the Dev officer for NK (who get zero support from NK board) the NK board has invested zero in gaa for a long while now. Hugh gates receipts for c,ship and clubs and div. sides from UAge to snr get zero investment. (Begs the Qs where does the money go?) . The next paragraph would be easier with some hint of giving a s**t from NK board. I'm also aware of the irony that it's the clubs who keep voting in these muppets who are only interested in (I'll leave a big hard cold blank there). Clubs also seem to be suffering a lack of interest within clubs. That's easy to understand as lack of success wilts the spirit. Still if a club gets the right people involved who can get children to love training there is evidence to show some of the smallest clubs will thrive. Aim 1st to field on their own, then to keeps lads at it.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Dec 15, 2016 10:53:00 GMT
Ah lads. Relax with the hyperbole. i agree it would be hyperbole if other clubs in NK looked like challengeing from underage up to snr in the next few years , but they don't. This might be for a different forum but it's NK so I'll put it here. Bar emmets ,the two finalists and b'duff who come with an *. The rest of NK is in crisis underage , which will inivitably cause trouble at snr level sooner or later. Let me say I'm the first to recognise success at UAge does not guarantee same at snr, however when all round you is falling to bits it makes the standard poorer so give strong underage clubs better odds. *bduff snr team nearly fielding for whatever reason (hurling , lack of interest) UAge flying up to u16's but then they can hardly field at minors so one has to ask will it continue. I know population is a factor but let's start at the top. Bar the Dev officer for NK (who get zero support from NK board) the NK board has invested zero in gaa for a long while now. Hugh gates receipts for c,ship and clubs and div. sides from UAge to snr get zero investment. (Begs the Qs where does the money go?) . The next paragraph would be easier with some hint of giving a s**t from NK board. I'm also aware of the irony that it's the clubs who keep voting in these muppets who are only interested in (I'll leave a big hard cold blank there). Clubs also seem to be suffering a lack of interest within clubs. That's easy to understand as lack of success wilts the spirit. Still if a club gets the right people involved who can get children to love training there is evidence to show some of the smallest clubs will thrive. Aim 1st to field on their own, then to keeps lads at it. What you are saying tells the story of Ireland and of which the GAA is a barometer in that as the largest voluntary organisation, the cracks are clear and undisputable. I am not so sure we can blame regional GAA boards, they are operational, not strategic -many don't even know the difference and maybe they are better off! As regards the hyperbole, I have no apology for being over the moon having watched that game, and again. It is a credit to what has been done in my home parish and yes, maybe it coincides with a vintage crop of players - when did any club, let alone a rural one in a time of mass emigration, have such a quality panel of 30? Standard at county level are sporadic, even us Kerry had a drought, what will clubs be like? I don't know how much of the problem can be solved, but if everything is done properly than that's as good as it gets. Unfortunately that is not the case and yes, it is a fine line between cronyism and comraderie. Abuse of discretionary power is the antithesis of sports and as the world's most prominent sport by virtue of it's amateur code, such wrong is no greater a crime than in the GAA.
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Post by AnygivenSunday on Dec 15, 2016 12:38:31 GMT
Congrats to Ballydonoughue on a massive win for them today, and fully deserved it was . They out mastered a fine Emmets team in most areas of the field today , especially Jason Foley at full Back who kept Connor Cox in his pocket all day , Jason has the potential to develop into one of the Kingdoms legendary full Backs in time which we haven't been blessed with since Johnno Keeffe's time. Eamonn Walsh and Martin Mahony were immense in the middle of the park. I believe that we witnessed the passing of the baton of kings of North Kerry football from Emmets to Ballydonoughue today, and fair dues to BallyD who have nurtured these young lads through the underage structure to what they have become. Today also may signal the end of another NK legend Mr Noël Kennelly who try as he has done so many times in the past couldn't drag his beloved Emmets across the line, this man owes Listowel Emmets nothing having been supreme for over 22.Yrs since he first graced this championship at the tender age of 15. This defeat will lead to a period of recession in Listowel with many more to follow noël into the sunset - Denis Walsh, Shane Quinn, Maurice Whelan , Brendan Guiney May also follow suit. Emmets need to rebuild but it will not take long as their conveyer belt is strong at underage as each year they produce 3 - 4 players to carry the flame. But today is BallyDonoughues day and they may well rule the northern district for the next decade. So on to the final next Sunday in Listowel ( the best venue by a country mile ) St. Senans even though favourites by the bookies do not have the arsenal to defeat the new kids on the block, it will be tight but the cup will be overflowing in Tomasins next Sun night and young men's Christmas socks will jingle with NK C'hip medals in Lisselton. i have to say I think your view that any team who beat Listowel is the next great thing might be a bit of a stretch. I thought Listowel would win cos of their experience (not realising how bad they were. A team who start lads after a week in camp is enough really). I know bally have a serious minor team or 2 but senans won 4 on the bounce and them lads are doing well now. Hard to call as I said earlier. I think this will be a classic and your right it won't be the last of them. Between them they'll pick up a few. Lads Listowel have been going constant for the past 5 years with no break, the year hadnt been goin great and the hunger for winter football wasnt there. Ballydonoghue had there work done and put in a serious effort all year, losing out in the Junior to our Munster Champions, Glenbeigh. The old saying goes "you get out what you put into it" and from what i hear Listowel sacrificed the jersey for the Pint life, easy to see that against Na Gaeil. Hopefully if a new manager comes in and can hold on to the squad thats there and keep a big panel Listowel will bounce back in a huge way in 2017. That being said Ballydonoghue deserved there victory and i tip them to when the final..Darragh Se kickouts is where its gona be won and lost for ballydonoghue. Foley to tie up Foran after that, id be loking at Browne to do a job on Walsh around the middle because the Senans midfield aren lively enough to handle Walsh. The reason there was no draws this year is because the gap between all the teams is very vast in recent years...think of the past few winners of this NKC were are they now?? poisoned chalice perhaps, the year is long enough.
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Post by sayitasiseeit on Dec 15, 2016 17:16:58 GMT
North Kerry Football is shocking at the moment. I'd go as far as saying that if you ranked club teams in the county from 1-55 or so, no North Kerry team would make it into the top 20 clubs. Desmomds aside (there a St Kieran's team, not a true north Kerry club). 2 North Kerry Players on the County Panel is a bad reflection too.
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Post by homerj on Dec 15, 2016 19:36:59 GMT
So,how do people see it going Sunday?! Seems to be very split with a slight leaning towards ballydonoghue
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Post by Ballyfireside on Dec 15, 2016 20:57:42 GMT
It is amazing for a team to be at the top for 5 years and Listowel still put up a good fight against a younger team.
North Kerry farming is declining in numbers like elsewhere while tourism is booming in the South of the county, and would there also be more soccer up North? Still, let's see how this Ballyd team fare in the years ahead.
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Post by southward on Dec 15, 2016 21:10:12 GMT
So,how do people see it going Sunday?! Seems to be very split with a slight leaning towards ballydonoghue Having seen the two semis, I fancy Senans, based mainly on what looks to be a greater attacking threat. Should be a huge crowd and a great atmosphere on Sunday. Hopefully the game lives up to it. Looking forward to this one.
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Post by givehimaball on Dec 15, 2016 22:06:10 GMT
Anyone know if there is a chance the final will be streamed on YouTube?
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Post by homerj on Dec 15, 2016 22:21:42 GMT
Anyone know if there is a chance the final will be streamed on YouTube? Doubt it as there is an official video for these games.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Dec 16, 2016 2:12:26 GMT
Anyone know if there is a chance the final will be streamed on YouTube? Doubt it as there is an official video for these games. "With the help of God we'll bring you the final" said 'Robert Ó Muircheartaigh' at the conclusion of the semi and what a job they will do, they really captured the occasion with a broadcast that was 100% flawless, they must have top class gear as the resolution is TV standard.
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Post by southward on Dec 17, 2016 10:44:34 GMT
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Post by southward on Dec 17, 2016 11:09:46 GMT
Lord above, that's a really terrible article by Billy. Just a series of unconnected sentences that reads like the ramblings of a pub drunk. You'd get a D- if you handed this up at school in my day. That an editor thought it was good enough for a national daily paper (even the Indo), speaks volumes about the standard of journalism today.
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Post by Mickmack on Dec 17, 2016 12:33:32 GMT
St Senan’s bidding to finally be kings of North Kerry Saturday, December 17, 2016 By Eoghan Cormican Sports Reporter Those in the hinterland of North Kerry are billing it as the game of the year.
Repeat that, please. I couldn’t have heard right. Must be a crossing of wires. We’re exactly one week from Christmas and yet North Kerry officials are promising that tomorrow’s divisional football decider (Listowel, 2.45pm) will be “an open, free-flowing contest”.
St Senan’s chairman Aidan Behan is humming a similar tune. Looks like everyone got the press release.
His club, formed some 82 years ago, are contesting just their third North Kerry SFC final.
Their last was 16 years ago. That ended in defeat, as did their maiden final appearance back in 1980.
They’re one of the few remaining clubs in the division never to have lifted the Eamon O’Donoghue Cup. Their opponents, Ballydonoghue, are not part of this small group. They’ve enjoyed divisional success on seven occasions, albeit their last success was back in 1992. Both sides will arrive into Listowel tomorrow with extremely young teams not yet taken by defensive mentalities and well-woven blankets.
“They say it is going to be the best North Kerry final in a very long time,” Behan proclaims. “Two young teams who play an open game of football. The Kerryman (newspaper) went for Ballydonoghue. The Kerry’s Eye went for St Senan’s. No one is too sure how this will go, other than that it should be a good game. “Mountcoal, the area which feeds into St Senan’s, could hardly be described as being small in size and so with a decent playing population how is it that the club has yet to make the breakthrough?
“Tradition,” replies the chairman.
“Listowel, Moyvane, Beale and Finuge were always dominant. They had the tradition of winning it. We started off this year at 16/1.”
Moyvane head the roll of honour with 18 titles. That’s the home of St Senan’s manager Kieran Stack. This is his first year involved, but four North Kerry minor titles between 2011 and 2014 would have told him this was a club with a fairly strong conveyor belt of talent.
“I would have spent five years with the Kerry development squads from U14 to U16. I would have come across a lot of the players on both sides who will feature Sunday,” Stack explains. “I would have been involved with Sean T Dillon and David Foran from St Senan’s. For Ballydonoghue, there was Jason Foley, Brian Ó Seanacháin and Darragh Sheehy.
“On our side, there would be 10 U21s on the panel and seven of them are likely to be starting.” He added: “There’s a big pride of the parish element attached to winning a North Kerry championship. Moyvane have 18 titles. When you compare that to a club like Senan’s who don’t have any, it puts a bigger emphasis on achieving that little bit of history on Sunday. It is a big thing for St Senan’s. It has brought a community together. The lads now have an hour to bring it together.”
Oh, and if you’re travelling to Listowel on Sunday, get down early. Along with the game of the year, they’re predicting one of the biggest crowds of the year in the Kingdom. Apparently, they’re travelling from West Kerry, South Limerick and further afield. From a neutrals perspective, let’s hope all these declarations hold true. And the weather of course. It is the middle of December after all.
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Post by kerryman90 on Dec 17, 2016 22:11:10 GMT
Draw 6/1 is a good Bet last 3 NKC Finals played in Listowel all Draws 2012 Beale & Duagh 1996 Finuge & Moyvane 1988 Beale & Desmonds
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Post by Ballyfireside on Dec 17, 2016 23:59:50 GMT
Lord above, that's a really terrible article by Billy. Just a series of unconnected sentences that reads like the ramblings of a pub drunk. You'd get a D- if you handed this up at school in my day. That an editor thought it was good enough for a national daily paper (even the Indo), speaks volumes about the standard of journalism today. I wouldn't miss it for what it is but yes, it is local, not national. A timely comparison would be how his pal 'Robert Ó Muircheartaigh' Bunyan does the commentary - Rob mightn't be a Michael O'Hehir but he doesn't try to be either and it is hardly expected. Nobody enjoys a good auld bit of crack more than myself but some commentators can be frustrating as they try to impress and which is a pure distraction in an exciting game. The golden rule is 'say nothing unless you have something to say' and a few quiet moments often gives an audience time to breathe, and there will be a lot of breath taking moments tomorrow if the semi was anything to go by. What also shines through is Robert's own success on the field and how he reads the game, and yes, his local knowledge. While he calls it as he sees it, he doesn't play God by criticizing, instead presenting the facts in an objective manner and letting his audience decide for themselves. I don't know why Billy was on about black cards as all in all the ref did okish although the final whistle was a long time coming. Now maybe that was the Ballydonoghue is me, but the townie boys can have no complaints as they got every chance to draw level in what was a one score verdict. With respect, they took their beating like true sportsmen and there were plenty of instances throughout the game that personified the same culture between us neighbours. Billy is right though about one thing and there may not have been a 70's golden era for Kerry if it wasn't for one Johnny Flaherty in St Micks. He moulded three key defenders in Deenihan, Paídí and Horse, as well as an endless list that includes the likes of Gerard Leahy, Robert ' Ó Muircheartaigh' Bunyan and Johnny Mulvihill. And then there would have been all the other county players - ah sure names are flooding out at this stage and I don't want to crash the system here! What also just struck me is the scatter of players in this years NK championship who's fathers Johnny would also have nurtured. Leading players like Ballydonoghue's Tullamore duo of Eamon Walsh and Damien O'Carroll and the Senans' Kennelly clan would be notable examples. It is hardly a coincidence and I was bursting my backside laughing a while back when a TCD genetics professor, yes, a Trinity College Dublin genetics professor, thought it appropriate to challenge the philosophy of 'The Kerry Ingredient' that alludes to this phenomenon -now I don't know what school you went to professor or what books you read in your spare time but 'success breeds success' in any man's language. No offence to mothers but is it that other counties have a good postman or what, and this auld nutty egg-head professor thinks we are the same? Was that an ill judged career choice or what? Quiet honestly I think Small Dan with a few Jamesons on board would have made a proper professor of GAA genetics, Gaanetics! Anyway whatever talent a fella had, back on the field now, I think one and all will say that Johnny Flaherty would find it and work on it 'till he got the best out of you. If there was a secret then a secret it will be although 'the harder you try the luckier you get', or in Ballythefireside speak, "rolling up the sleeves rises the flag to fly at full mast." If Billy has trademark flaw it is that he thinks people want to know about him when all they are after is a good auld yarn and living in the shade of a literary genius can't be easy either. What is disappointing though is the negativity and interference in the literary works of others and that is bad show, poor spirit -sorry to have to say it but not to is to dilute credit where it is due.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Dec 18, 2016 2:16:46 GMT
Anyone have local papers previews?
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Post by nk1 on Dec 18, 2016 10:04:48 GMT
Best of luck to both teams today , it's a perfect day for it , let's not forget the ref and his merry men , hopefully he will have little impact on the game and both teams make it easy for him . I think the kick outs will tell a lot today, be sure to see senans push up on daras kick outs if that works then Santa may come early to the halfway men . Lucking forward to this one as I do all NK finals
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Post by Ballyfireside on Dec 18, 2016 14:32:14 GMT
Anyone have the streaming address?
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Post by Ballyfireside on Dec 18, 2016 14:56:41 GMT
PANIC STATIONS HELP HELP HELP
NEED THE STREAMINMG ADDRESS
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Post by kerryman90 on Dec 18, 2016 15:05:47 GMT
Well this is embarrassing for st senans
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Post by Ballyfireside on Dec 18, 2016 15:09:03 GMT
Well this is embarrassing for st senans is it streamed? address please?
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Post by Ballyfireside on Dec 18, 2016 15:20:37 GMT
Bad form if they stopped the streaming
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Post by southward on Dec 18, 2016 16:53:03 GMT
So,how do people see it going Sunday?! Seems to be very split with a slight leaning towards ballydonoghue Having seen the two semis, I fancy Senans, based mainly on what looks to be a greater attacking threat.
Should be a huge crowd and a great atmosphere on Sunday. Hopefully the game lives up to it. Looking forward to this one. See, this is why I don't frequent the bookies. Ballydonoghue 5-9 St Senans 0-8
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Post by Ballyfireside on Dec 18, 2016 17:10:30 GMT
Hearty congrats to Team Ballydonoghue and it's all over bar the shouting though we better stay quiet or we'll be accused of hyperbole.
This is a serious Ballydonoghue panel and they have a bright future with a further 15 young men coming through on the bench. There will be some frustration though as there are very few retiring at the other end. The picture almost resembles a county team and there is a lot of lessons in there that other parishes will now follow. All we now need is to start getting fellas on the county side.
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Post by veteran on Dec 18, 2016 17:22:50 GMT
Ballydonoghue 5-9 St Senans 0-8 HT 4-4 0-5
The day was very fine, the crowd was massive and expectations were in the stratosphere but not for the first time those expectations were not realised. Of course , it was not the fault of Ballydonoghue that this much anticipated confrontation was a disappointment for the neutral. They were scintillating from start to finish. Sadly, the Half Way lads did not fulfill their side of the bargain. They were mauled and eviscerated by a ravenously motivated Balldonoghue team. As thorough a demolition job as one is likely to see in a lifetime.
It was clear from the start that Bally were bouncing off the ground while their opponents were nervous and tentative. I suppose my old friend Tennessee Williams would describe Senans being like a cat on a hot tin roof. In the meantime, Ballydonoghue operated ruthlessly on terra firma while at the same time reaching for the stars. Very early in the game, it was 0-2 to 0-1 in favour of Bally when wing back, the efficient Jack Fogarty, shot speculatively but the goalie, on that hot tin roof, mishandled and the ball crossed the line. It was not too long before Jack Foley and Jim Cremin registered further goals and it was time to take down the tent even before we had become accustomed to our location in the Park. Jim Cremin made it goal number four. Ecstasy for Ballydonoghue, despair for St. Senans, longing for home on the part of spectators.
The opening period of the second was dour and unproductive. Eventually, Ballydonoghue got into their stride once more and swamped their dumbfounded opponents. A fifth goal inevitably arrived, courtesy of Jim Cremin again, three in all for Jim ifI am not mistaken. It was a merciless display by Balldonoghue , devouring their opponents with the completeness of a swarm of locusts.
Once more Ballydonoghue's full back line of Stephen Lonergan, Jason Foley and Diarmuid behan were as unwelcoming as they were againt Listowel and this time they were buttressed by an equally stingy half back line of Thomas Kennelly , Michael Foley and Jack Fogarty.
Eamon Walsh , at midfield, may not have reprised his deeds of Moyvane but he was still the most effective midfielder on view. He had an able helper in the loyal Martin O'Mahony.
After the game in Moyvane, I expressed the view that Ballydonoghue would need more from Brian O'Seanachain on the forty. He responded. Effervescent and thoughtful, he was the fulcrum of the attack. Paul Kennelly was majestically menacing at full forward, scoring from from frees and play. Damien O'Carroll was a beaver on the wing and Jack Foley repeated his goal scoring effort at Moyvane.
What can one say about St. Senans? They tried manfully to get off the ground only to land on the aforementioned hot tin roof. This resulted in them being consumed by a debilitating attack of the jitters with nothing going their way. It is difficult to pick out anybody who got the better of their opponents. Damien Somers spasmodically at midfield, Eoin O'Connell in flashes on the wing, scored 0-2, and David Behan got on a lot of ball when he roamed out. David got one from play and one from a free. Padraig Quille got one from play and three from frees. But overall it was shock and awe for the Senans. The quest goes on for the elusive one.
Congratulations then to the victors. No ifs or buts. Supreme champions on merit.
Stephen Mulvihill refereed it without any theatrics. Sean Weir , CHB on the Senans team, got a deserved red card late in the game. It did not influence the outcome. The outcome was determined by an irresistible Ballydonoghue team.
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Post by wideball on Dec 18, 2016 17:47:25 GMT
Ballydonoghue were ruthless. Every time Senans made a mistake it seemed to end up in the back of the net.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Dec 18, 2016 17:48:03 GMT
Vets account says it all, little to report, the anti climax of anti climaxes. Was it that the standard on either side of the draw was misjudged or were Senans overcome by the occasion? Maybe winning all their games by such a wide margin meant they had no test at coming from behind and when it happened they were shocked helpless into submission? If anything the one v two week break helped Ballyd as they appeared to up a few gears. If form is any indication then Listowel will also feel a bit better than they did this time last week.
With a batch of top hurlers you'd think Senans wouldn't flop so we'll have a wait to see whether they are a rising force or is it that the teams they beat are all a bit weakish.
Was there a MOTM?
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Post by homerj on Dec 18, 2016 18:45:58 GMT
Some of the thuggery witnessed today was a disgrace, it's unbelievable how Senans ended the game with only 14, they should have have 4 sent off.
Congratulations to ballydonoghue, fully deserved and neutrals turned against Senans very quickly once it because clear what was happening
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