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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Feb 28, 2017 19:43:27 GMT
If using expletives, and saying things like "end of", are what passes for definitive conclusion these days, then I despair of forum debate. I made the above post simply because I looked at the game again, and that incident inevitably, in the cold light of day, and despite the fact that on second viewing a couple of weeks ago I believed I had exaggerated in calling it a definite free, I find that in fact the more I looked, the more it's a free. As I said, a harsh free but still a not unreasonable decision/conclusion. This is in contrast to the opinions claiming that it is "beyond doubt never a free". I could easily say things like 'b.ollox to that', 'anti-blue tinted glasses', and 'end of', but I actually prefer to debate properly, and respect others genuine opinions. It's all very well to cry 'tinted glasses' every time someone says something you don't agree with, that sort of comment is purely designed to rubbish, and undermine an opinion you don't like or can't accept. I have little or nothing to gain or lose by having brought up the incident again, most or all people think the Donegal free wasn't a free. The Tyrone game incident is done and dusted. Therefore any reasonable poster would realise and conclude that I'm simply stating a genuine opinion. And I'm genuinely not that bothered by the Donegal free because overall Dublin didn't deserve to win that game. So there you go lads/lasses, not everyone fits simplistic caricatures or predictable patterns Why did you bring it up again anyway? This is wummery. Why is it wummery, just because you don't agree?? I brought it up because I like debate, and I feel compelled to comment on what I believe I have seen. As I said, "I was watching the game again"
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 28, 2017 21:47:03 GMT
Glad your eyesight is 20:20 again rashers
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Feb 28, 2017 22:26:44 GMT
Glad your eyesight is 20:20 again rashers It was blurred only by the storm named Anti-McQuillan, which also brought in a heavy gold-green mist off the Atlantic. I doubted my eyes briefly because also then a harsh, cold northerly made them water. But finally a pleasant Southeast breeze has cleared things up. The scholar Rashers Tierney, Esq, does indeed like to analyse an incident with forensic detail, proper order, and one of his many weaknesses/foibles/vices. He certainly doesn't care for overly emotional carry-on that clouds the facts. For this gentleman, discussion is about rigour..... But by jaysus he really knows he is unanimous in his conclusions!!
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Post by kerrysam11 on Mar 3, 2017 14:42:42 GMT
When do Dublin Generally name their team before games?
Thinking of possibly having a bet on the game tomorrow and would like to see the teams before doing so..
Thanks
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Post by jackiel on Mar 3, 2017 15:01:41 GMT
The team named is often no indication of the actual team so I wouldn't be basing my bet on that.
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Post by peanuts on Mar 4, 2017 20:28:18 GMT
When do Dublin Generally name their team before games? Thinking of possibly having a bet on the game tomorrow and would like to see the teams before doing so.. Thanks Hope you took the Dubs and the over. Clinical performance tonight. Bullied the team that bullied us a couple of weeks ago.
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Post by dano on Mar 4, 2017 20:51:23 GMT
That performance and absolute comfort on the ball by their key men is what we have to counter in Tralee. Don't let them be comfortable. Mayo made Dublin look invincible in that game tonight.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 4, 2017 21:54:04 GMT
Why do people give out about Sky but not Eir?
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Post by jackiel on Mar 4, 2017 22:05:36 GMT
Mayo were muck tonight,how the hell did we lose to them, I reckon we'd have made more of a fight of it against Dublin and indeed that's what I expect on 18th. Some of Dublin's fringe players got the chance to shine. Shane Carthy & Darren Daly stood out for me. Mayo's reliance on Andy Moran is dangerous, can't see them winning Sam without a major shaken up.
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Post by jackiel on Mar 4, 2017 22:07:10 GMT
Why do people give out about Sky but not Eir? Dont have either so can't give out, bugs me that I can't access matches I could a few years ago though.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Mar 4, 2017 22:43:10 GMT
Why do people give out about Sky but not Eir? I do. Have Sky, but not Sky sports as it is expensive and they only show a handful of GAA games a year. For the rest they only show muck. 5 sports channels and nothing but muck. Okay, got to watch the sevens and super rugby, but still doesn't make it worth paying so much for it. Eir are even worse. Combine getting Sky, Sky Sports Eir, Imagine broadband (as Sky, Eir nor Vodafone can offer broadband around here) and telephone and it would be around €150 a month for all. I would like to spend my money better than that.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 4, 2017 22:48:25 GMT
Why do people give out about Sky but not Eir? Dont have either so can't give out, bugs me that I can't access matches I could a few years ago though. A few more years ago even fewer matches were televised.
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Post by kerryexile on Mar 5, 2017 0:14:52 GMT
Last Sunday, against Kerry, I thought Monaghan pushed the aggression too far and were lucky with a lot of decisions. I didn't post any thing about it because it would have sounded like an excuse.
I think justice caught up with them tonight. Two red cards and both deserved. The referee showed great courage for the second one - it was shortly after the first and he was not thinking about "evening thing up". He consulted with the lines man and made his decision.
Moanaghan then decided to play football and Tyrone struggled against 13 men. Its the first time I saw Tyrone this year and based on tonight they appear to be a few cards short of a deck.
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Post by thebluepanther on Mar 5, 2017 0:32:27 GMT
Last Sunday, against Kerry, I thought Monaghan pushed the aggression too far and were lucky with a lot of decisions. I didn't post any thing about it because it would have sounded like an excuse. I think justice caught up with them tonight. Two red cards and both deserved. The referee showed great courage for the second one - it was shortly after the first and he was not thinking about "evening thing up". He consulted with the lines man and made his decision. Moanaghan then decided to play football and Tyrone struggled against 13 men. Its the first time I saw Tyrone this year and based on tonight they appear to be a few cards short of a deck. Funnily enough I'd agree to an extent , I felt a few times Kerry lads were fouled up front but werent given the decision. But to say Monaghon pushed the aggression too far , really they were always going to try and disrupt Kerry. Kerry were at home , they should of been the ones doing the bullying.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Mar 5, 2017 3:50:13 GMT
Dont have either so can't give out, bugs me that I can't access matches I could a few years ago though. A few more years ago even fewer matches were televised. I have Eir through Vodafone TV but disappointing when they defer top game unless you upgrade again. Sky are a bunch of crooks, they make it as awkward as possible to terminate the service, keep you at the end of a queue on a premium rate line, try to refuse written instruction and which is illegal I am advised. Joe Duffy was on about this crack a while ago. Bad form with the GAA community but as I say, someone has to pay for the chicken and chips at Murdoch's wedding! As regards results, no logic but that's The League, Mayo disappointing and Monaghan weren't far away down to 13.
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Post by peanuts on Mar 5, 2017 15:13:47 GMT
How was the penalty incident a black card. It didn't meet any of the black card criteria as far as I could see.
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Post by Sons of Pitches on Mar 5, 2017 16:35:31 GMT
What's going on by the banks of the Lee?!
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 5, 2017 16:36:46 GMT
What's going on by the banks of the Lee?! The 1990s.
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Post by southward on Mar 5, 2017 19:07:38 GMT
Mayo were muck tonight, how the hell did we lose to them, I reckon we'd have made more of a fight of it against Dublin and indeed that's what I expect on 18th. Some of Dublin's fringe players got the chance to shine. Shane Carthy & Darren Daly stood out for me. Mayo's reliance on Andy Moran is dangerous, can't see them winning Sam without a major shaken up. They only scored 6 points from play against us. 12 scoreable frees awarded to our 2 was ultimately the difference. Well, that and the first-half chances we missed.
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Post by southward on Mar 5, 2017 19:20:15 GMT
What's going on by the banks of the Lee?! Div 2 wide open so far with everyone dropping points so Cork aren't out of it yet. Still, that's a disastrous result today for them.
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 5, 2017 19:23:54 GMT
Clare did reach the QFs of the All Ireland last year.
And Gary Brennan didnt play today. Probably saving himself for the club hurling final
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 5, 2017 21:09:39 GMT
Mayo were muck tonight,how the hell did we lose to them, I reckon we'd have made more of a fight of it against Dublin and indeed that's what I expect on 18th. Some of Dublin's fringe players got the chance to shine. Shane Carthy & Darren Daly stood out for me. Mayo's reliance on Andy Moran is dangerous, can't see them winning Sam without a major shaken up. This is March. Trying to get any sort of proper training going is nearly impossible for any county with half or more of their players working outside the county or away at college. No one can compete with Dublin at this time of the year as they dont have those problems.
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Post by southward on Mar 5, 2017 22:23:05 GMT
The second Monaghan sending-off looked awfully harsh for a straight red. Seemed like an accidental poke to me.
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Post by kerrygold on Mar 5, 2017 22:47:25 GMT
Mind numbing stuff by the Lee, defeats to Tipp and Clare over the past while doesn't bode well for Cork at the moment.
The Dubs seems to have moved their game on again and are very much a shoe in for both the five in a row NFLs and three in a row at championship level as things stand.
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 5, 2017 23:37:09 GMT
Didn't I warn ye that the future was blue.
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Post by thebluepanther on Mar 6, 2017 8:28:17 GMT
I guess its only March. Mayo were very poor against us, they will get better but the question is how much. The space we were given was massive. Fenton, Kilkenny and Mdmc all played well on the same day, 3 guys constantly involved and running at Mayo . Mayo didn't have an answer. Fitzsimons was breathing down the neck of Andy Moran all the time he was on. Scully, Carthy , McHugh and Lowndes played well and will probably start in Tralee , but this game might be a different story . Id say Fitzmaurice will have noticed that Mayo were cut open and really Dublins kickouts have to be pressed up . But maybe we will have something different also . Glad Kerry beat Roscommon i have a few days booked down in Tralee. Should be electric atmosphere. Anything can happen in this game.
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 6, 2017 14:27:09 GMT
Dublin will improve too but Mayos improvement will be much greater when they can all get together during the summer. Dublin can reach a level that no one else can in the months of february and March for reasons I outlined earlier.
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Post by onlykerry on Mar 6, 2017 17:07:08 GMT
Cork folk are getting despondent - promotion to Division 1 is unlikely and a drop to Division 3 is possible with home games against Meath and Down either side of an away game against Derry left in their program. Currently lying 6th in Division 2 with three points from four games. Derry (on scoring diff) and Fermanagh (on 2 pts) below them - the Derry encounter could be the game that decides their fate.
They may have Pairc Ui Chaoimh ready for July - just no matches to play there on current form.
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Post by kerrygold on Mar 6, 2017 17:07:16 GMT
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Post by thebluepanther on Mar 6, 2017 23:06:55 GMT
Dublin will improve too but Mayos improvement will be much greater when they can all get together during the summer. Dublin can reach a level that no one else can in the months of february and March for reasons I outlined earlier. Dublin won the league under Jim Gavin in 2013, previous to that was 20 years earlier. Why were they not winning more league titles then. The logistics of traveling to training hasnt changed.
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