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Post by cornerflag on Sept 17, 2016 22:09:13 GMT
Na Crocaigh , where you getting that Mid Kerry team from .. Some of those no longer play ..
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2016 14:00:12 GMT
Ok name them. I was at the div 1 final and I know the Laune Rangers lads. they play. I was at the Churchill v Milltown final. Alex O'Connor was in Goal. David leane was midfield. Dylan O'Neill and Niall Sertutxa wre in the forwards. Ian Corkery ok who else. Dara Casey is still playing. Oisin O'Connor is still playing.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Sept 18, 2016 16:22:41 GMT
Ok name them. I was at the div 1 final and I know the Laune Rangers lads. they play. I was at the Churchill v Milltown final. Alex O'Connor was in Goal. David leane was midfield. Dylan O'Neill and Niall Sertutxa wre in the forwards. Ian Corkery ok who else. Dara Casey is still playing. Oisin O'Connor is still playing. Who played well in the game? Anyone to watch out for?
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Post by cornerflag on Sept 18, 2016 19:52:26 GMT
Don't think any milltown started last game .. Laune had 8 or 9 to start. Can see next week .. About 5 under 16s played with the mid Kerry 18s
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2016 23:50:41 GMT
Daire Cleary from Laune Rangers is the best u16 player in Mid Kerry. He will be a starter on the Kerry minors next. Fiachra Clifford (Laune Rangers) has a good chance of starting and Dara Casey from Glenbeigh/Glencar will also be close.
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Post by kerrygold on Sept 20, 2016 7:36:41 GMT
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Post by Control2 on Sept 20, 2016 13:31:27 GMT
A few yellow cards on this thread for a few posts that had to be deleted. Ye were lucky they weren't black cards -whatever that is nowadays.
Careful now
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Post by buck02 on Sept 20, 2016 14:17:52 GMT
Its fine and good naming the development squads/teams and so on but I was never comfortable with talk of "Joe Bloggs is brilliant" which will inevitably lead to "Joe Bloggs is useless and shouldnt be on the squad" when it is kids aged 14-16 people are talking about.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2016 14:24:25 GMT
I agree with that Buck I'm guilty of it myself. Ok im fine with naming them I think it's great to know who is on the squads. It's good info.
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Post by fitz on Sept 20, 2016 15:56:59 GMT
Daire Cleary from Laune Rangers is the best u16 player in Mid Kerry. He will be a starter on the Kerry minors next. Fiachra Clifford (Laune Rangers) has a good chance of starting and Dara Casey from Glenbeigh/Glencar will also be close. You have to be submitting petrol/diesel expenses to the County Board, ffs sake you're everywhere. Looks like Crokey needs a job as a liaison officer at a minimum. Need to get all this data into a db. Unreal coverage.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2016 23:25:30 GMT
You're wrong i said they started for Milltown and you're wrong on all of it.
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Post by cornerflag on Sept 21, 2016 10:21:08 GMT
Loads better to do. You didn't answer the point I made saying it was simplistic to say another member was wrong on everything. The post ( for whatever reason deleted) mentioned a few other kids worth watching as potential future players . How can that be wrong. Surely we all want to see as great a depth of talent as possible. You saying it's all wrong is just a negative to 15/16 year olds. Unless you have been to every under age match in the county you don't have the divine right in saying who is worth watching
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Post by shannonsider19 on Oct 2, 2016 22:35:23 GMT
For those interested and to clear up any confusion from above posts, here is the Mid-Kerry and Castleisland District squads from today. Both these were widely available on twitter so don't think it'll be a problem to post them here. These Horan lads from Scart sound like they are the real deal? U16 Co Final 2016
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Post by kerryforliam on Oct 3, 2016 13:01:18 GMT
Is the Castleisland district made up of the same clubs as St. Kierans? Good win for them if so, should be a force in the minor championship next year!
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Post by himself on Oct 4, 2016 8:55:32 GMT
Castleisland played with a sweeper and were physically stronger. Daire cleary struggled to penetrate, but he has been superb all year, awesome for laune rangers at centre forward in the division 1 final. Eddie horan with 2-3 was my man of the match the last day, played midfield
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Post by kerryforliam on Oct 4, 2016 12:00:23 GMT
Good stuff, have heard nothing but good things about the Horans, hope they can kick on now. Wonder will the Castleisland management follow the team through to the minor stage, or will people not be impressed with their defensive set-up?
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Post by himself on Oct 4, 2016 12:27:45 GMT
Convincing win, using exactly the right tactics. I have no idea whether the same management will stay with them, but they seem to have done everything right with those lads - attitude seems to be top class as well. I don't know any of them personally. That mid kerry team are class as well, they will also be seen again.
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Post by madforfootball on Oct 4, 2016 21:15:34 GMT
Was at the game Sunday I wouldn't say castlisland set up very defensive but they did stop mid kerrys best player from getting close to goals awesome the way they did it too if any thing mid kerry were more defensive,, I am from a nearby club and my son has few friends on the team and they can't speak highly enough of there trainer/manager (Micheal Cahill) I must give it to him he seems to bring best out of players and gets a lot of respect from them hope he moves on with them
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Post by kerryforliam on Oct 7, 2016 10:30:14 GMT
Was at the game Sunday I wouldn't say castlisland set up very defensive but they did stop mid kerrys best player from getting close to goals awesome the way they did it too if any thing mid kerry were more defensive,, I am from a nearby club and my son has few friends on the team and they can't speak highly enough of there trainer/manager (Micheal Cahill) I must give it to him he seems to bring best out of players and gets a lot of respect from them hope he moves on with them Is that the same Micheal Cahill that trained St. Kierans seniors this year? He seems to be doing fairly well for himself.
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Post by onlykerry on Jul 28, 2017 9:10:36 GMT
Let them enjoy their football in peace for another couple of years - u14 is more than early enough to be picking propspective development teams.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2017 9:32:39 GMT
I have been at a good few under 12 games This year and there has been a few lads that caught my eye this could possibly be the kerry north un14 team 2019 1 Sean Collins (Kerins O Rahillys) 2 Sean McElligott (St Senens 3 Jack Murphy (Austin Stacks 4 Gearoid Evans (Keel) 5 Dara Cannane (John Mitchels) 6 Colm Browne (Austin Stacks) 7 Cian O Gara (Churchill) 8 Aaron Nolan(Austin Stacks 9 Fionnan Griffen (Keel) 10 Calum Ryan (St Senens) 11 Paudie Fitzgerald (Castlegregory 12 Jake Foley (Kerins O Rahillys) 13 Noah Townsend (Austin Stacks) 14 Odhran Murphy (Churchill 15 Cillian O Neill (Castlegregory) 16 17 Jamie Horgon (Austin Stacks) 18 Odhran Ferris (Ardfert) 19 Paul Costello (Keel) 20 Damien Hogan (Austin Stacks 21 Jamie O Shea (Austin Stacks 22 Rory Clifford (John Mitchels This Would Be A Great Team I Say Ah jaysus will you stop - this is U12 we are talking about - leave them play their ball. I actually creating the dev squads is too early even at U14 - having been involved in training teams at that level the dev squads create an unfair and unjust elitism even at that age - could be argued they are counter productive for the greater game...U15 is surely sufficient enough time to start dev squads, even allowing with the shift from U18 to U17 from next year...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2017 12:02:57 GMT
I agree u12 is too young to name players. Just some info though. I went to a lot of games this year also. Kerry South will have a stronger team for sure. Rathmore Kilcummin Glenflesk Crokes Kenmare Keel (with Kerry South) Laune Rangers Spa all good players.
Your Kerry north team is a bit off. Moyvane Listowel Duagh Ballydonoghue and Dingle will have players on it.
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Post by greengold35 on Jul 28, 2017 12:29:24 GMT
Any news on the age groups being switched to odd numbers, U-13 /U-15 & U-17? Heard it was discussed between county board & Bord na Nòg.
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Post by mandad on Jul 28, 2017 15:17:38 GMT
We could I s'pose start a Development League for expectant mothers.
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Post by champer on Mar 8, 2018 8:55:15 GMT
Kevin O’Donovan backs plan to review ‘elitist’ development squads 0 Thursday, March 08, 2018
By Eoghan Cormican
Sports Reporter
Cork County Board vice-chairman Kevin O’Donovan has welcomed GAA president John Horan’s plan to review underage county development squads, believing they are in danger of becoming elitist.
During his inauguration speech, Horan outlined his intentions to tackle, as he sees it, the unhealthy growth of development squads.
His criticism centred on development squads contributing to an “elitist culture” in the Association and having a “detrimental effect on young players who end up being cast aside from these squads after a few years”.
He also expressed concern that individuals charged with overseeing these teams were motivated by personal agendas. “It’s key to get the right people looking after these squads for the good of young fellas, rather than promoting their own coaching CV to become a future minor manager,” said Horan.
Having served as Cork coaching officer from 2014-17, as well as three years as Cork development squads administrator, Kevin O’Donovan is well placed to analyse Horan’s rampant elitism claim.
“I would welcome any review of development squads, nationally,” he said.
“The danger of elitism is probably the biggest threat facing the GAA.
“It is a very positive move by the president, straight away, to tackle the issue of elitism, which is running through every level of the GAA.”
O’Donovan sees an urgent need to address the tournament culture which exists at underage level.
Winning the Tony Forristal (All-Ireland U14 hurling competition) should not be the barometer by which a young county panel is judged, he said.
“It is very unfair to tell managers to take a developmental view and then when they arrive at a tournament, we start tweeting their results. I have huge sympathy for the managers on sidelines.
“They are being put under pressure, externally, by us and then we complain when, maybe, they overtrain or become too elitist.
“The holistic view has to be taken. John [Horan] recognises that.
“I have, previously, sent in proposals to Munster relating to Tony Forristal. My thinking was that Cork should be sending four [regional] teams. Make it less of an All-Ireland, less elite.
“Make it more inclusive, but still not throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
“The Celtic Challenge is the best thing the GAA have done over the last 10 years. Cork, more than any other county, have embraced that. We sent four regional teams into that competition.
“It greatly reduces your chances of winning it, but you are giving more players access to that high level. We’d be for that at all levels.”
Horan complained that development squads were starting too early. O’Donovan has discussed with games development administrators in the county methods to streamline Cork’s underage set-up.
“This is a long-term view, but why bring an U14 hurler playing Premier 1 into a development squad when he is already playing at the top level of club competition? Should the development squad be for a player who is not playing Premier 1, so as to bring him up to that level?
“Also, in schools, should someone who is playing Harty, Dean Ryan, Frewen, or Corn Uí Mhuirí be coming into a development squad on a Friday evening for more training when he is getting plenty of it in an elite school?
“Is there a need for every single elite player to be turning up at every event?”
O’Donovan said: “Sometimes, people complain there are too many young lads involved with development squads. What has served Cork best are the regional nature of them, where it is not elite.
“A guy from Carbery now plays on a regional hurling team with lads from Muskerry and Carrigdhoun. It means he can take on an Imokilly player on an even footing.”
Jerry Wallace, who was involved with Cork’s All-Ireland winning teams in 2004 and 2005, served as director of Limerick’s underage hurling academy from 2012-14.
He has returned to their academy set-up this year and wasn’t impressed by Horan’s negative take.
“Development squads won’t ever run out of control so long as games development officers and GDAs are involved in implementation, along with external coaches who are not directly linked with GAA bodies. That has always been how it worked in Limerick.
“Also, if you have a good steering committee in every county, they will not appoint the people who have that win-at-all-costs mentality.”
Wallace said: “If you look at underage tournaments in the past five years, Limerick haven’t been winning them. What you are seeing is the academy developing hurlers so they can progress up to minor, U21, and senior level.
“The emphasis isn’t on winning at underage. It is about educating them and giving them proper lifestyle habits. That’s what development squads are about.”
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