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Post by kerryexile on May 30, 2016 8:33:14 GMT
As I have said before I am not a fan of Lyster or his programme. I watched 1 minute of Brolly yesterday before the match started and then left and came back for the live action. I left again at half time. In that minute I saw enough to know what Brolly’s contribution would be. Brolly has made it clear in the print media that there is animosity between himself and McGeeney. In a recent article Brolly even admitted that verbals broke out after a funeral. Weeks later Lyster puts Brolly in a studio to analyse McGeeney's team. For a man whose position implies he would have some discretion, Brolly went for it hook, line and sinker. What was supposed to be a sports programme became a platform for a personal vendetta at the licence payers’ expense. Lyster was smiling – there is no such thing as bad publicity. In an effort to make his barbs about McGeeney seem acceptable Brolly tries to put them in a context with the top teams “….what Fitzmaurice does is .... what Gavin does is ……” Well let’s do the same here and compare this type of production to a top sports channel – Can you imagine Brian O’Driscoll on BT Sport personally excoriating Leo Cullen for Leinster’s loss to Connacht? I don’t think so.
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on May 30, 2016 19:18:21 GMT
Have to say I don't like it one bit and I would be someone who has often criticised what I perceived to be some of Geeser's weaknesses as a coach in the past. And I'm just an anon keyboard warrior, the Brolly stuff is high-profile, and borderline nasty, reagrdless of provocation or otherwise. This is an Armagh thing and they should be allowed sort it out without having Brolly trampling all over it. I would feel that some of the big Armagh personalities or even county board people should be seen/heard to close ranks against Brolly/around their Snr team, regardless of any issues they might have with KMcG.
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Post by kerrygold on May 30, 2016 20:53:48 GMT
I've no time for Brolly so wouldn't give him the time of day.
Didn't know the championship had started. It is such a damp squib during May and June and into early July !!!
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Post by dart on May 30, 2016 21:22:42 GMT
No it's fair to say the Championship starts in August.
The league is the superior competition nowadays as far as a spectacle. With similarly matched teams slogging it out for a couple of months in the slop and muck.
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Post by Mickmack on May 30, 2016 21:26:10 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2016 5:14:44 GMT
Brolly is disgraceful with his comments.
He is willing to say anything for a cheap laugh/headline.
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Post by Dermot on May 31, 2016 11:28:25 GMT
As I have said before I am not a fan of Lyster or his programme. I watched 1 minute of Brolly yesterday before the match started and then left and came back for the live action. I left again at half time. In that minute I saw enough to know what Brolly’s contribution would be. Brolly has made it clear in the print media that there is animosity between himself and McGeeney. In a recent article Brolly even admitted that verbals broke out after a funeral. Weeks later Lyster puts Brolly in a studio to analyse McGeeney's team. For a man whose position implies he would have some discretion, Brolly went for it hook, line and sinker. What was supposed to be a sports programme became a platform for a personal vendetta at the licence payers’ expense. Lyster was smiling – there is no such thing as bad publicity. In an effort to make his barbs about McGeeney seem acceptable Brolly tries to put them in a context with the top teams “….what Fitzmaurice does is .... what Gavin does is ……” Well let’s do the same here and compare this type of production to a top sports channel – Can you imagine Brian O’Driscoll on BT Sport personally excoriating Leo Cullen for Leinster’s loss to Connacht? I don’t think so. Yep, Whatever some people might think of K McGeeneys management skills, he's a gentleman ... Give me McGeeney any day over that other wee septic weasel .... Brolly is a bitter wee boy and he shows it any chance he gets ... He really is a classless wee turd .. but he keeps getting away with it !! Also, and I know many will think Im mad in the head for saying this but I actually think McGeeney isnt that bad of a manager .. Look at where Kildare are since he left .. I just think Armagh genuinely dont have the players at the minute... as the saying goes ... You cant make a silk purse out of a sows ear Edit:- .. Its Brollys "personal stuff", his personal agenda that is completely out of order .. why he is allowed to do this cracks me up .. If you ask me, Bartons performance a week earlier with Derry was much worse .. but not a peep out of wee Joe about him. Im sure McGeeney would love to bump into him in a dark alley some night ... You'd see the real Joe then
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Post by Dermot on May 31, 2016 12:20:15 GMT
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Post by skybluezone on May 31, 2016 13:40:45 GMT
What was Brolly's offending line(s)? Was it "Kieran hasn't got a clue?". If so then I'd tend to agree with him to be honest. Yes he could have couched it differently and said something like "McGeeney has never displayed the requisite tactical nous in any of his management roles". Is that less offensive? Because it means the same thing.
Brolly is excellent at spotting and analysing teams strengths and weaknesses, and if he left it at that his contribution would be so much more appreciated. Miles ahead of Spillane for example. Unfortunately he goes off the deep end now and again by backing up his thinking with controversial soundbites, as well as giving us examples of how Tyrone or Donegal would have done this or that. Or Jim McGuiness or Mickey Harte. Tyrone haven't won it for coming on 9 years now and he needs to change the record because it is well past its sell by date.
I would argue that McGeeney has done nothing of note at inter county management level. His biggest achievement was to ensure that Kildare senior footballers had the fitness to compete with the big boys. That is all. From 2008 to 2013? when he left they did not beat any teams with designs on winning Sam. None. Tactically he was found wanting numerous times, and never seemed to get big decisions right. He invented the post match huddle that all of Kildare seemed to buy into but apart from that??? Since taking over Armagh it has been an unmitigated disaster. I don't know anything of the politics of Armagh club football and the perceived issues with Cross players (no pun intended!) but it is mental that one of the best club sides in the country cannot or do not make a significant contribution to a bang average county side.
So when you examine his record forensically maybe Kieran McGeeney really doesn't have a clue. And Joe told us that in lay mans language.
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Post by Ballyfireside on May 31, 2016 16:01:30 GMT
Anyone know where we can see what games are exclusive to Sky? Saturday evening ones?
Just seen their ad on TV, must have got a roasting last year as it is overshadowed with T&Cs.
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Post by yourholiness on May 31, 2016 16:39:04 GMT
Much of what brolly says is true and I think he felt he could take it a step further with mcgeeney because there is a perception that mcgeeney is a self appointed guru without having the credentials to back it up . He does make a lot of demands of the county boards he works for and I suppose when you are making such demands it is surely fair enough for people to question the lack of any tangible progress .
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Post by Dermot on May 31, 2016 16:52:37 GMT
What was Brolly's offending line(s)? Was it "Kieran hasn't got a clue?". If so then I'd tend to agree with him to be honest. Yes he could have couched it differently and said something like "McGeeney has never displayed the requisite tactical nous in any of his management roles". Is that less offensive? Because it means the same thing. Brolly is excellent at spotting and analysing teams strengths and weaknesses, and if he left it at that his contribution would be so much more appreciated. Miles ahead of Spillane for example. Unfortunately he goes off the deep end now and again by backing up his thinking with controversial soundbites, as well as giving us examples of how Tyrone or Donegal would have done this or that. Or Jim McGuiness or Mickey Harte. Tyrone haven't won it for coming on 9 years now and he needs to change the record because it is well past its sell by date. I would argue that McGeeney has done nothing of note at inter county management level. His biggest achievement was to ensure that Kildare senior footballers had the fitness to compete with the big boys. That is all. From 2008 to 2013? when he left they did not beat any teams with designs on winning Sam. None. Tactically he was found wanting numerous times, and never seemed to get big decisions right. He invented the post match huddle that all of Kildare seemed to buy into but apart from that??? Since taking over Armagh it has been an unmitigated disaster. I don't know anything of the politics of Armagh club football and the perceived issues with Cross players (no pun intended!) but it is mental that one of the best club sides in the country cannot or do not make a significant contribution to a bang average county side. So when you examine his record forensically maybe Kieran McGeeney really doesn't have a clue. And Joe told us that in lay mans language. There's a very long list of people Brolly has deemed fit for his unique brand of personal abuse .. P Grimley, S Cavanagh, C Cooper, Marty Morrisey (ffs ) and McGeeney are just some of them ... Is it really necessary to go down that route .. I think not .. Its the Joe show and the numpties at RTE are loving it as it gets them ratings I presume .. but surely someone needs to tell them that this is an amateur sport with REAL people .. its not a bloody soap opera .. I dont get it .... Whatever some people may think about McGeeneys management abilities, I doubt he deserves to have this little rat poking at him at every opportunity... And I do mean at every opportunity .. he's been at him for a while now on TV and his columns.. They have history and Brolly is using his position to stick the boot in .. its not right !! BTW, As you all know, football can be a funny ole game ... Had Armagh scored their penalty there would only have been 3 points in it and who knows what would have happened ... I realise there's no way Armagh "should" have won that game but they actually could have... I guess in a roundabout way Im saying McGeeney may not be just as terrible as some may think..
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on May 31, 2016 19:00:19 GMT
Ah if only hindsight was foresight..... look at some of the analysis of the 2008 final here, especially the discussion from 14:10, and I'm sure there's plenty more after the game. In the context of what has happened in the years since, and what Brolly and others have gone on to say about the same teams/counties, and players, it's really intertesting.
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Post by Dermot on May 31, 2016 20:11:16 GMT
Was he as personal then ? ... Don't think so !!
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Post by Mickmack on May 31, 2016 20:11:22 GMT
Its a pity Brolly has such a nasty side.
A lot of the time he is well worth reading but when he has a grudge then he cuts to the bone.
Geezer must bemoan the fact that when he was in Kildare he didnt have Stevie McDonnell and then when he goes to Armagh, Stevie is retired. I wonder did Ronan Clarke make full recovery by the way. I hope so.
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Post by Mickmack on May 31, 2016 22:03:11 GMT
What was Brolly's offending line(s)? Was it "Kieran hasn't got a clue?". If so then I'd tend to agree with him to be honest. Yes he could have couched it differently and said something like "McGeeney has never displayed the requisite tactical nous in any of his management roles". Is that less offensive? Because it means the same thing.
Brolly is excellent at spotting and analysing teams strengths and weaknesses, and if he left it at that his contribution would be so much more appreciated. Miles ahead of Spillane for example. Unfortunately he goes off the deep end now and again by backing up his thinking with controversial soundbites, as well as giving us examples of how Tyrone or Donegal would have done this or that. Or Jim McGuiness or Mickey Harte. Tyrone haven't won it for coming on 9 years now and he needs to change the record because it is well past its sell by date. I would argue that McGeeney has done nothing of note at inter county management level. His biggest achievement was to ensure that Kildare senior footballers had the fitness to compete with the big boys. That is all. From 2008 to 2013? when he left they did not beat any teams with designs on winning Sam. None. Tactically he was found wanting numerous times, and never seemed to get big decisions right. He invented the post match huddle that all of Kildare seemed to buy into but apart from that??? Since taking over Armagh it has been an unmitigated disaster. I don't know anything of the politics of Armagh club football and the perceived issues with Cross players (no pun intended!) but it is mental that one of the best club sides in the country cannot or do not make a significant contribution to a bang average county side. So when you examine his record forensically maybe Kieran McGeeney really doesn't have a clue. And Joe told us that in lay mans language.[/b] Would you say the same about Pillar Caffrey?
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2016 22:11:17 GMT
Fair play to grimley. He has absolutely nailed brolly for the type of person he is.
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Post by skybluezone on May 31, 2016 23:33:56 GMT
What was Brolly's offending line(s)? Was it "Kieran hasn't got a clue?". If so then I'd tend to agree with him to be honest. Yes he could have couched it differently and said something like "McGeeney has never displayed the requisite tactical nous in any of his management roles". Is that less offensive? Because it means the same thing.
Brolly is excellent at spotting and analysing teams strengths and weaknesses, and if he left it at that his contribution would be so much more appreciated. Miles ahead of Spillane for example. Unfortunately he goes off the deep end now and again by backing up his thinking with controversial soundbites, as well as giving us examples of how Tyrone or Donegal would have done this or that. Or Jim McGuiness or Mickey Harte. Tyrone haven't won it for coming on 9 years now and he needs to change the record because it is well past its sell by date. I would argue that McGeeney has done nothing of note at inter county management level. His biggest achievement was to ensure that Kildare senior footballers had the fitness to compete with the big boys. That is all. From 2008 to 2013? when he left they did not beat any teams with designs on winning Sam. None. Tactically he was found wanting numerous times, and never seemed to get big decisions right. He invented the post match huddle that all of Kildare seemed to buy into but apart from that??? Since taking over Armagh it has been an unmitigated disaster. I don't know anything of the politics of Armagh club football and the perceived issues with Cross players (no pun intended!) but it is mental that one of the best club sides in the country cannot or do not make a significant contribution to a bang average county side. So when you examine his record forensically maybe Kieran McGeeney really doesn't have a clue. And Joe told us that in lay mans language.[/b] Would you say the same about Pillar Caffrey? [/quote] Don't know why you are even asking that as it bears no relevance. In any event the answer is NO, because Pillar had some clue. He made his rep on the back of bringing Na Fianna to an AI Club final in 2000, beaten by an excellent Crossmaglen funnily enough. He took over from the all singing all dancing Tommy Lyons, a different approach was required and he delivered to a degree. Regular Leinster victories in 2005, 06, 07 & 08 followed, after a lean spell of 1 Leinster from 1995 - 2004.This was a time when Leinster was competitive. Furthermore his Dublin team gave Kerry their fill of it in 2007 in the semi, a great Kerry team in their pomp. Tyrone finished his tenure in 2008 but Pillar's unforgivable sin was managing to lose the 06 semi to a patently inferior Mayo team, when 7 pts up with 20 minutes to play. Jack O'Connors book will tell you all you need to know about that debacle. I remember coming out of Croker in 07 after the Kerry game thinking that this particular Dublin team had missed the boat now, 06 and 07 were the 2 opportunities but in fairness they weren't quite good enough. Long way of saying that Pillar displayed some aptitude for management, in comparison to McGeaney, who if I remember correctly played for Na Fianna in the club final of 2000. Good try Mickmack!
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Post by fitz on May 31, 2016 23:45:52 GMT
To partially jump to McGeeney's defence, the Off the Ball reporter was relaying that McGeeney was screaming at Armagh to push up to contest the Cavan keepers kickouts when Cavan were spinning a la Rumpelstilskin in first half.
I think he had poor players at Kildare, and now also at Armagh but I don't see any evidence either that he's a good manager. I think certainly in my case I still see him as the player he was and not the manager he is. The qualities he brought a team when playing are not trending in management.
Re:Brolly. I've realized the reason I dislike him most of the time. His impartiality. He cannot analyze a game objectively when he feels any emotional positively or negatively about a team. We always clearly get his opinion on a team before their actual current performance.
Hypocritically my own partiality towards the green and gold brings the Kerry v Tyrone semi last year to point. He was incandescent with frustration at half time, the only analysis of the first half was Tyrone's goal chances missed. He was almost off the chair. The others hardly got a word in.
I read it like "Ffs they should have fcukin buried them in the net and sent those fcukin chokers home". Again pardon my partiality:)
On a serious note he has insightful views and able to articulate them but absolutely 0 balance.
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Post by yourholiness on Jun 1, 2016 7:56:54 GMT
Ah if only hindsight was foresight..... look at some of the analysis of the 2008 final here, especially the discussion from 14:10, and I'm sure there's plenty more after the game. In the context of what has happened in the years since, and what Brolly and others have gone on to say about the same teams/counties, and players, it's really intertesting. Very interesting . Also there was a good dynamic between the three panellists . Spillane and brolly together would give an aspirin a headache .
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 1, 2016 8:09:04 GMT
Saying geezer hasnt a clue is as ridiculous as saying he was a guru. Maybe getting kildare so close to the 2010 final and pushing Donegal all the way in 2011 were greater achievements than any of pillars given the limitations of his squad. One great forward like Bernard and Stevie and maybe he would have a clue. Bernard was taken off in the 2007 semi-final just when Dublin needed him. Good man pillar.
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Post by skybluezone on Jun 1, 2016 8:24:56 GMT
To partially jump to McGeeney's defence, the Off the Ball reporter was relaying that McGeeney was screaming at Armagh to push up to contest the Cavan keepers kickouts when Cavan were spinning a la Rumpelstilskin in first half. I think he had poor players at Kildare, and now also at Armagh but I don't see any evidence either that he's a good manager. I think certainly in my case I still see him as the player he was and not the manager he is. The qualities he brought a team when playing are not trending in management. Re:Brolly. I've realized the reason I dislike him most of the time. His impartiality. He cannot analyze a game objectively when he feels any emotional positively or negatively about a team. We always clearly get his opinion on a team before their actual current performance. Hypocritically my own partiality towards the green and gold brings the Kerry v Tyrone semi last year to point. He was incandescent with frustration at half time, the only analysis of the first half was Tyrone's goal chances missed. He was almost off the chair. The others hardly got a word in. I read it like "Ffs they should have fcukin buried them in the net and sent those fcukin chokers home". Again pardon my partiality:) On a serious note he has insightful views and able to articulate them but absolutely 0 balance. This is an excellent post.
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Post by skybluezone on Jun 1, 2016 8:45:30 GMT
Saying geezer hasnt a clue is as ridiculous as saying he was a guru. Maybe getting kildare so close to the 2010 final and pushing Donegal all the way in 2011 were greater achievements than any of pillars given the limitations of his squad. One great forward like Bernard and Stevie and maybe he would have a clue. Bernard was taken off in the 2007 semi-final just when Dublin needed him. Good man pillar. You are obviously inferring that Pillar has no clue either. As stated earlier he had some success after a barren period for Dublin. Would you agree that running possibly the 2nd greatest team ever to a point (or was it 2) in the 07 semi final was a pretty respectable effort? And this was a team at the height of their powers. In the noughties Dublin had no scoring forwards, although Alan Brogan was what we call nowadays a 'marquee player'. He wasn't a regular scorer however which was exactly what the team required. Ray Cosgrave was a one season wonder in 2002. So that Dublin team got found out on the big days only by the very best, ie Kerry and Tyrone (2005 QF in a replay). This is obviously apart from the blow out I mentioned earlier in 06 Mayo. Bernard in 2007 was not the machine of 2010 and onwards, in fact he only made his debut in 2006. And had no real pedigree as an under age player. He was to be fair destroying corner backs all over Dublin in club football at the time. So Pillar hooking him against Kerry in 2007 is not quite the same thing as doing it nowadays (and Gavin has done it plenty by the way, even against Kerry). McGeaney blew it against Dublin in Leinster clashes when we were down to 14 on two occasions, one of them was a first half sending off. Their much lauded fitness was supposed to kick in during the 2nd half, never happened. Down of 2010 were ordinary, we were nothing special before 2010 either. Donegal were a coming force in 2011 but still had huge work to do in terms of scoring, couldn't get past them. They bate all and sundry in qualifiers but they never beat a top 8 team, ever. And Armagh now is just a horror story for him. He was a serious footballer and I'm sure is a very likeable fella (heard him on Newstalk a few times and he seems a lovely chap) but judging him purely on his record as a football manager I'd be in Brolly's camp. To give balance to my views on Pillar he was no genius (leaving Casey on Galvin in 2007...) but his record stands up to scrutiny on the whole.
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Post by skybluezone on Jun 1, 2016 8:47:33 GMT
Saying geezer hasnt a clue is as ridiculous as saying he was a guru. Maybe getting kildare so close to the 2010 final and pushing Donegal all the way in 2011 were greater achievements than any of pillars given the limitations of his squad. One great forward like Bernard and Stevie and maybe he would have a clue. Bernard was taken off in the 2007 semi-final just when Dublin needed him. Good man pillar. You are obviously inferring that Pillar has no clue either. As stated earlier he had some success after a barren period for Dublin. Would you agree that running possibly the 2nd greatest team ever to a point (or was it 2) in the 07 semi final was a pretty respectable effort? And this was a team at the height of their powers. In the noughties Dublin had no scoring forwards, although Alan Brogan was what we call nowadays a 'marquee player'. He wasn't a regular scorer however which was exactly what the team required. Ray Cosgrave was a one season wonder in 2002. So that Dublin team got found out on the big days only by the very best, ie Kerry and Tyrone (2005 QF in a replay). This is obviously apart from the blow out I mentioned earlier in 06 Mayo. Bernard in 2007 was not the machine of 2010 and onwards, in fact he only made his debut in 2006. And had no real pedigree as an under age player. He was to be fair destroying corner backs all over Dublin in club football at the time. So Pillar hooking him against Kerry in 2007 is not quite the same thing as doing it nowadays (and Gavin has done it plenty by the way, even against Kerry). McGeaney blew it against Dublin in Leinster clashes when we were down to 14 on two occasions, one of them was a first half sending off. Their much lauded fitness was supposed to kick in during the 2nd half, never happened. Down of 2010 were ordinary, we were nothing special before 2010 either. Donegal were a coming force in 2011 but still had huge work to do in terms of scoring, couldn't get past them. They bate all and sundry in qualifiers but they never beat a top 8 team, ever. And Armagh now is just a horror story for him. He was a serious footballer and I'm sure is a very likeable fella (heard him on Newstalk a few times and he seems a lovely chap) but judging him purely on his record as a football manager I'd be in Brolly's camp. To give balance to my views on Pillar he was no genius (leaving Casey on Galvin in 2007...) but his record stands up to scrutiny on the whole. Forgot to mention, would Johnny Doyle not be in the great corner forward camp? Kildare folk like to think he is anyway.
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Post by kerryexile on Jun 1, 2016 9:31:59 GMT
I don’t think McGeeney’s credentials as a manager is the issue here.
The worst performance I have seen for a long time in a provincial championship was Joe’s very own county - Derry - against Tyrone a couple of weeks ago.
They didn’t have a plan, didn’t have any spirit and were very poorly prepared.
Who was the manager? None other than Joe’s team mate from 1993 – Damian Barton.
Not a word from Joe. The silence was deafening.
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 1, 2016 9:39:23 GMT
Johnny Doyle was kildares best forward by a mile but not in the league of hooch, canavan, Bernard, Joyce, Stevie McDonnell. I threw pillar in to get you to reconsider your comment that geezer was and is clueless. Neither had great panels or forwards especially so really then it's a question of did he bring them as far as he could. Both probably did.
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Post by Dermot on Jun 1, 2016 11:48:11 GMT
To partially jump to McGeeney's defence, the Off the Ball reporter was relaying that McGeeney was screaming at Armagh to push up to contest the Cavan keepers kickouts when Cavan were spinning a la Rumpelstilskin in first half. I think he had poor players at Kildare, and now also at Armagh but I don't see any evidence either that he's a good manager. I think certainly in my case I still see him as the player he was and not the manager he is. The qualities he brought a team when playing are not trending in management. Re:Brolly. I've realized the reason I dislike him most of the time. His impartiality. He cannot analyze a game objectively when he feels any emotional positively or negatively about a team. We always clearly get his opinion on a team before their actual current performance. Hypocritically my own partiality towards the green and gold brings the Kerry v Tyrone semi last year to point. He was incandescent with frustration at half time, the only analysis of the first half was Tyrone's goal chances missed. He was almost off the chair. The others hardly got a word in. I read it like "Ffs they should have fcukin buried them in the net and sent those fcukin chokers home". Again pardon my partiality:) On a serious note he has insightful views and able to articulate them but absolutely 0 balance. I would certainly agree with most of that ... McGeeney definitely doesnt have the players at Armagh and he did as well at Kildare as anyone could have IMHO .. look at them now. And as for Brolly, he does talk a lot of sense at times .. but you've highlighted the problem .. i.e. his impartiality, or should I say, lack of it, is the thing that grates ... If he took the egotistical crap out of his game (because thats what it is to him) and stopped short of the personal insults, he actually could be quite good.
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Post by Dermot on Jun 1, 2016 11:53:18 GMT
Saying geezer hasnt a clue is as ridiculous as saying he was a guru. Maybe getting kildare so close to the 2010 final and pushing Donegal all the way in 2011 were greater achievements than any of pillars given the limitations of his squad. One great forward like Bernard and Stevie and maybe he would have a clue. Bernard was taken off in the 2007 semi-final just when Dublin needed him. Good man pillar. Yeah, I think he took Kildare as far as anyone could have ... Its pretty obvious that since he left they have completely flopped altogether. ... Some folk seem to use the Kildare example to berate him with .. I dont understand that at all The Kildare players he had were limited enough .. as are the current Armagh squad.
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Post by Dermot on Jun 1, 2016 12:14:40 GMT
I don’t think McGeeney’s credentials as a manager is the issue here. The worst performance I have seen for a long time in a provincial championship was Joe’s very own county - Derry - against Tyrone a couple of weeks ago. They didn’t have a plan, didn’t have any spirit and were very poorly prepared. Who was the manager? None other than Joe’s team mate from 1993 – Damian Barton. Not a word from Joe. The silence was deafening. Exactly !! At the end of the day Im not saying McGeeney is a great manager but I certainly dont think he's useless ... Wee Joe has his agenda and currently its to stick the boot into McGeeney which flames his egotistical fires, gets him talked about and has the added bonus of pissing off McGeeney who he obviously has a personal gripe against.. Maybe wee Joe (who isn't stupid) has looked at people like Dunphy and thought, "yep, thats where I want to be" .. the GAA version. Its not fair in an amateur sport though and he really should be pulled up on it ... The Marty Morrisey thing last year was just ridiculous.
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Post by Dermot on Jun 1, 2016 12:58:02 GMT
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