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Post by peanuts on Oct 4, 2016 21:42:33 GMT
[quote author=" thebluepanther" Two teams were playing on the edge, not just one. [/quote] I agree with that but both you and skybluezone appear to be suggesting that Mayo were the initial aggressor and that Dublin were 'just meeting fire with fire' which I would disagree with.
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Post by kerrygold on Oct 4, 2016 21:46:27 GMT
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Post by jackiel on Oct 4, 2016 22:09:27 GMT
We're back on the tit for tatting again. Obviously the first match had rattled Dublin and they were planning on meeting Mayo with similar intensity second time around. Dean Rock was mentioned earlier,in all the times I've seen him play I have never seen him play as aggressively as on Saturday. There was a lot of pushing & shoving going on all through the first half with his marker. As I said earlier in the thread,there were incidents involving players from both sides which may have deserved sanction but were overlooked for one reason or another. Mayo must now be considered the second best team in the country at present, whether they can progress to No 1 next year remains to be seen.
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Post by skybluezone on Oct 4, 2016 22:27:19 GMT
Completely agree. Horrendously bad judgement on someones part.
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Post by thebluepanther on Oct 4, 2016 22:29:10 GMT
[quote author=" thebluepanther " Two teams were playing on the edge, not just one. I agree with that but both you and skybluezone appear to be suggesting that Mayo were the initial aggressor and that Dublin were 'just meeting fire with fire' which I would disagree with. [/quote][/b] No I don't think Mayo were the initial aggressor , I'm pointing out that both teams were out to meet fire with fire. Which involved making sure their opponents didn't make runs off the ball by which ever means necessary. Both teams were out to get inside the other players heads. On 3 min's into game Connolly gets the ball on left hand side he runs a few yards and passes it , immediately AO Shea takes him out off the ball so he doesnt catch up with the play. This is a recurring theme all over the pitch. From both Dublin and Mayo. Yet some people only focus on what Dublin did. It doesn't bother me if people give out about Connolly or Rock or Small, but at least look at the whole game and see mcloughlin, Boyle , O'Shea were putting in sneaky hits looking for a reaction during the game .
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Post by dubaroo on Oct 4, 2016 22:31:00 GMT
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Post by skybluezone on Oct 4, 2016 22:34:26 GMT
We're back on the tit for tatting again. Obviously the first match had rattled Dublin and they were planning on meeting Mayo with similar intensity second time around. Dean Rock was mentioned earlier,in all the times I've seen him play I have never seen him play as aggressively as on Saturday. There was a lot of pushing & shoving going on all through the first half with his marker. As I said earlier in the thread,there were incidents involving players from both sides which may have deserved sanction but were overlooked for one reason or another. Mayo must now be considered the second best team in the country at present, whether they can progress to No 1 next year remains to be seen. Yeh back at tit for tat, really wanted to avoid that. Rock was the epitomy of the "meet fire with fire" attitude. No doubt Dublin were surprised by the level of physicality that Mayo brought the first day. Rock is normally the least combative of players so to see him engage immediately said a lot about the nature of the Dublin response.
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Post by delorean on Oct 5, 2016 10:25:26 GMT
Mayo don't have a marquee forward, a real out and out scorer from play. You won't win the All-Ireland without at least one. Sorry, but that's just a lazy summarisation. Obviously it's a lot easier to win when you have a couple of what you would consider marquee forwards, easier still when you have six, seven or eight of them, but Mayo were a kick of a ball away from winning twice. It was clearly possible for them to win with what they had. There were countless other variables that transpired to leave them falling agonisingly short, but to say they can't win with what they have after losing by a point at the end of nearly 160 minutes of football is ignoring the reality of how the two games played out. Over the two games it was hardly Dublin's 'marquee' forwards alone that won it for them, it was their backs that earned them a replay really. Dublin's forwards scored 0-04 from play in the first game between them, Mayo's scored 0-06. Obviously it would make life a lot easier for Mayo if they had a Geaney or McManus (or a Costello from the bench!), but they could easily have got over the line with what they had. Leaving well enough alone in the goalkeeping department might even have been enough.
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Post by Jigz84 on Oct 5, 2016 10:40:53 GMT
Mayo don't have a marquee forward, a real out and out scorer from play. You won't win the All-Ireland without at least one. Sorry, but that's just a lazy summarisation. Obviously it's a lot easier to win when you have a couple of what you would consider marquee forwards, easier still when you have six, seven or eight of them, but Mayo were a kick of a ball away from winning twice. It was clearly possible for them to win with what they had. There were countless other variables that transpired to leave them falling agonisingly short, but to say they can't win with what they have after losing by a point at the end of nearly 160 minutes of football is ignoring the reality of how the two games played out. Over the two games it was hardly Dublin's 'marquee' forwards alone that won it for them, it was their backs that earned them a replay really. Dublin's forwards scored 0-04 from play in the first game between them, Mayo's scored 0-06. Obviously it would make life a lot easier for Mayo if they had a Geaney or McManus (or a Costello from the bench!), but they could easily have got over the line with what they had. Leaving well enough alone in the goalkeeping department might even have been enough. You call it lazy, I call it direct and to the point. It was Mayo's atrocious shot selection and use of the ball that cost them in the drawn game, not Dublin's defending. If they had a top-class scorer from play they'd have won. Instead their forwards kicked a combined 8 points from play over the 2 games, including just 3 last Saturday. I agree that Dublin's marquee forwards didn't win it for them but I'm not talking about Dublin. Mayo have alot of what's required in place except a serious scoring forward that can perform v the likes of Dublin and Kerry when it matters.
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Post by Joxer on Oct 5, 2016 10:44:52 GMT
Interesting article from Kieran Shannon...http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/columnists/kieran-shannon/kieran-shannon-the-hard-questions-mayo-must-ask-to-reach-the-summit-424069.html
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Post by delorean on Oct 5, 2016 12:22:47 GMT
If they had a top-class scorer from play they'd have won. Probably. But that's a different thing to saying they can't win an All Ireland with the forwards they have. They were a whisker away from doing so. Instead their forwards kicked a combined 8 points from play over the 2 games, including just 3 last Saturday. I agree that Dublin's marquee forwards didn't win it for them but I'm not talking about Dublin. Mayo have alot of what's required in place except a serious scoring forward that can perform v the likes of Dublin and Kerry when it matters. It doesn't matter that you weren't talking about Dublin. My point is that Dublin managed to get over the line without their 'marquee forwards' producing the goods, they only played to the same level as Mayo's forwards (at best), bar Costello when he came on but I doubt you'd have him in the marquee bracket just yet. In other words, the presence or absence of what you like to call 'marquee forwards' wasn't the difference between the two teams. Had Keegan not been the one black carded he could quite easily have compensated for the absence of these forwards, who knows? Just to repeat, obviously it would make their quest for glory a hell of a lot easier if they had a one or two of these types of players, but to say they won't or can't when there was so little between the sides is just lazy, and not really to the point at all when so many other factors should be considered.
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Post by Jigz84 on Oct 5, 2016 12:34:49 GMT
If they had a top-class scorer from play they'd have won. Probably. But that's a different thing to saying they can't win an All Ireland with the forwards they have. They were a whisker away from doing so. Instead their forwards kicked a combined 8 points from play over the 2 games, including just 3 last Saturday. I agree that Dublin's marquee forwards didn't win it for them but I'm not talking about Dublin. Mayo have alot of what's required in place except a serious scoring forward that can perform v the likes of Dublin and Kerry when it matters. It doesn't matter that you weren't talking about Dublin. My point is that Dublin managed to get over the line without their 'marquee forwards' producing the goods, they only played to the same level as Mayo's forwards (at best), bar Costello when he came on but I doubt you'd have him in the marquee bracket just yet. In other words, the presence or absence of what you like to call 'marquee forwards' wasn't the difference between the two teams. Had Keegan not been the one black carded he could quite easily have compensated for the absence of these forwards, who knows? Just to repeat, obviously it would make their quest for glory a hell of a lot easier if they had a one or two of these types of players, but to say they won't or can't when there was so little between the sides is just lazy, and not really to the point at all when so many other factors should be considered. All valid points delorean but name a team who has won the All-Ireland in the last 30 years or even further back without the kind of top-class forward that Mayo lack. I think there's plenty evidence to suggest that Mayo can't/won't win until they unearth that kind of forward. But I do see where you're coming from at the same time.
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Post by Dermot on Oct 5, 2016 12:59:20 GMT
Yes Rashers, Im really going to run off now and get those stats for you ,... you just wait there You really find it extremely difficult "giving anything" dont you !! ... the world and his granny know the truth about Dublins funding but you just cant admit it because you seem to think it tarnishes Dublins recent success ... is that it ? Its' ok Dermo, I got your back. The below is from the Irish Times. Dublin claiming the bulk of GAA’s development funds
Annual financial report for 2014 shows capital netting more than the other combined 31 counties
Thu, Feb 5, 2015, 01:00 Ian O'Riordan Not for the first time the GAA has found itself defending an apparent bias in funding towards Dublin. Figures released in the 2014 financial report show that Dublin received €1.46 million for games development – more than the other 31 counties combined.Cheers Peanuts :-) Over to you Rashers lol
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Post by Dermot on Oct 5, 2016 13:08:13 GMT
But when Mayo do it its known as 100% commitment and not taking a backward step etc. darragh would be proud. I dont enjoy this tit for tat *e, but what bugs me is that objectivity usually goes out the window when Dublin are involved. Thats a fact. Ha, you haven't a clue .. try being from Tyrone .. If a Tyrone player farts he accused of not only bringing "a bad smell" as Colm O'Berk says, but accused of trying to poison the opposing team with a multitude of sickening, below the belt, cloudy blows.... or something like that lol
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Post by delorean on Oct 5, 2016 14:00:53 GMT
All valid points delorean but name a team who has won the All-Ireland in the last 30 years or even further back without the kind of top-class forward that Mayo lack. Yeah, agreed, it reduces their chances for sure. I think they did more than enough in the past couple of weeks to prove it is at least possible though, very possible. As for the last 30 years question, I agree that the winners do usually possess at least one, but All Ireland's have been won without these players necessarily delivering and making the difference. Off the top of my head Daniel Goulding only scored 0-02 from play in the 2010 final, as did Bernard Brogan in 2011. I don't think Dublin had any other forward at that stage who would be considered a marquee scorer, Cork had Donncha O'Connor to take some of the pressure off Goulding but I'm not sure if you consider him to be in that bracket. Cillian O'Connor matched their 0-02 tallies the first day. Eamonn Fitzmaurice basically sacrificed the scoring power of James O'Donoghue in 2014 and Kerry still fell over the line. Granted ye had Geaney too, although at that stage I think he was considered really good as opposed to marquee.
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Oct 5, 2016 15:54:53 GMT
All valid points delorean but name a team who has won the All-Ireland in the last 30 years or even further back without the kind of top-class forward that Mayo lack. Yeah, agreed, it reduces their chances for sure. I think they did more than enough in the past couple of weeks to prove it is at least possible though, very possible. As for the last 30 years question, I agree that the winners do usually possess at least one, but All Ireland's have been won without these players necessarily delivering and making the difference. Off the top of my head Daniel Goulding only scored 0-02 from play in the 2010 final, as did Bernard Brogan in 2011. I don't think Dublin had any other forward at that stage who would be considered a marquee scorer, Cork had Donncha O'Connor to take some of the pressure off Goulding but I'm not sure if you consider him to be in that bracket. Cillian O'Connor matched their 0-02 tallies the first day. Eamonn Fitzmaurice basically sacrificed the scoring power of James O'Donoghue in 2014 and Kerry still fell over the line. Granted ye had Geaney too, although at that stage I think he was considered really good as opposed to marquee. Alan Brogan in 2011, though at that stage his role was play-making and linking the play from deep, as well as defending much more than he had ever had in his career up to then. Connolly pretty much became a really top forward that summer, with his performance Vs Tyrone. The semi-final was no opportunity for any sort of forward (maybe an army commando tent forward, Eoin O'Gara?) and in the final Connolly had a really influential role as playmaker from around the middle. But you're right to say at that stage we could only have really claimed two, and that the style of play determines alot these days, very hard for any forwards to shine against systems and the level of organisation & commitment like Mayo had. Many people would have considered AOS to be a really top forward up until now, and he did get that cracking goal Vs Donegal last year but overall against the best teams since 2013 at least he has struggled. Now people will say he had a different role this year which left him further out, and working harder around the field but you could also argue it was a psychological ploy as much as anything because at least that way every time they went into games where in the past everyone was saying "Aido will/might/should cut loose today/really perform today", now they were saying "different role, he's more involved in the play, lots of unseen work, lots of possessions etc, so that damaging sense of underperforming or let-down or whatever wasn't such an issue. But even in the context of the way the game is often played these days between the top sides, AOS should be getting a couple of scores, and a big goal now and then. You're right of course that a team can win anyway (yet again I can't help thinking of the Dublin 1990s side, who kept coming up just short like this Mayo team, who had so many strong points and abilities but just lacked that extra bit in terms of forwards who win you the biggest games/get you over the line. When they finally did fall over the line it was due to a few main things: 1. Experience in managing a lead in a game/an extra bit of composure compared to previous. Also not letting the game get out of control in the first half as happened Vs Down the year before. 2. Bullying the opposition a bit more than they were being bullied. 3. Finding/getting a significant bit extra in attack from a couple of established or even more peripheral players (Mick Galvin, Paul Clarke for example) 4. Finding a couple of significant additions, Jayo (fearless, electric pace, getting goals) & Brian Stynes in midfield. Both of those in general 'freshened things up' and didn't have any of the hangups that other lads may have at that stage. All of that still only got them a one-point win over probably the least formidable opponents they had lost to in a final or semi-final or any major game (era before qualifiers) over the whole period from 1989-1995. This shows how much is needed to break a barrier like this. I think Rochford will shake things up quite a bit next year.
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Post by Dermot on Oct 5, 2016 17:04:33 GMT
Rashers I hate to p1ss on yer chips at this special time but I feel disposed to remind you about the funding question you posed earlier ... e.g. please look up 4 posts from this one
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Post by skybluezone on Oct 5, 2016 19:16:38 GMT
But when Mayo do it its known as 100% commitment and not taking a backward step etc. darragh would be proud. I dont enjoy this tit for tat *e, but what bugs me is that objectivity usually goes out the window when Dublin are involved. Thats a fact. Ha, you haven't a clue .. try being from Tyrone .. If a Tyrone player farts he accused of not only bringing "a bad smell" as Colm O'Berk says, but accused of trying to poison the opposing team with a multitude of sickening, below the belt, cloudy blows.... or something like that lol I'm secure enough to think that I do in fact have a clue. And it would appear from your post that its not only Dublin that have a persecution complex!
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 5, 2016 22:18:25 GMT
Every team has guys who are no angels but these attempts to build a case against Keegan in advance of the final last weekend and what we have heard since has been bordering on pathetic.
The 2 players have a bit of previous but it was an attempt to influence the match in advance of the whole game with the irony being that the 3 guys who committed sending off offences were Philly, MDMC and Connolly. well, that "case building" worked out as planned and had the desired result...
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Post by thebluepanther on Oct 6, 2016 6:17:33 GMT
Yep Dublin , we're disgraceful. Before and during the game. Dublin behind the refs back tried everything going to stop Mayo playing football. Poor Vaughan ran over and hit Johnny Cooper as he was walking of the pitch after recieving a black by mistake. (Imaginevitable uproar if Connolly done it) Jason Doherty didnt see Johnny going to get ball out of the net and that was why he clattered Johnny after Mayo got their goal.(imagine if Philly done that) Cillian o Connor looking like a spoilt kid throwing himself back on the ground in a tantrum because he didn't get a free after being the first to pull John Small back before their tussle. But sure it was the Dubs your honour , they instigated everything. Just ask a few of the Kerry lads (Mickmack and Kerry bhoy) they seen it all. 😉
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Post by wayupnorth on Oct 6, 2016 6:37:01 GMT
Of no benefit indulging in whataboutery. It was a fascinating contest Dublin just about deserved to win but wouldn't have done so without being blessed with more than their fair share of skilful players. Mayo can hold their heads high going into the winter without needing to console themselves with conspiracy theories. Keegan's black was a proper black for dragging down and not given because Dublin pundits were complaining about him. Any referee who allows himself to be influenced by this stuff shouldn't be allowed to ref an under 14 never mind an AIF. As the cop at the crime scene might say "Nothing more to see here folks. Move along!"
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 6, 2016 7:18:49 GMT
Yep Dublin , we're disgraceful. Before and during the game. Dublin behind the refs back tried everything going to stop Mayo playing football. Poor Vaughan ran over and hit Johnny Cooper as he was walking of the pitch after recieving a black by mistake. (Imaginevitable uproar if Connolly done it) Jason Doherty didnt see Johnny going to get ball out of the net and that was why he clattered Johnny after Mayo got their goal.(imagine if Philly done that) Cillian o Connor looking like a spoilt kid throwing himself back on the ground in a tantrum because he didn't get a free after being the first to pull John Small back before their tussle. But sure it was the Dubs your honour , they instigated everything. Just ask a few of the Kerry lads (Mickmack and Kerry bhoy) they seen it all. 😉 You are a great poster and very fair. We all know there was a pair of them in it as regards cynical and rough stuff. My point is about the campaign by ex Dublin players against Keegan. It worked it seems to me. They must be chuffed. There was nothing clear cut about keegans blackcard.
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Post by thebluepanther on Oct 6, 2016 7:56:33 GMT
Yep Dublin , we're disgraceful. Before and during the game. Dublin behind the refs back tried everything going to stop Mayo playing football. Poor Vaughan ran over and hit Johnny Cooper as he was walking of the pitch after recieving a black by mistake. (Imaginevitable uproar if Connolly done it) Jason Doherty didnt see Johnny going to get ball out of the net and that was why he clattered Johnny after Mayo got their goal.(imagine if Philly done that) Cillian o Connor looking like a spoilt kid throwing himself back on the ground in a tantrum because he didn't get a free after being the first to pull John Small back before their tussle. But sure it was the Dubs your honour , they instigated everything. Just ask a few of the Kerry lads (Mickmack and Kerry bhoy) they seen it all. 😉 You are a great poster and very fair. We all know there was a pair of them in it as regards cynical and rough stuff. My point is about the campaign by ex Dublin players against Keegan. It worked it seems to me. They must be chuffed. There was nothing clear cut about keegans blackcard. Before big games especially a replay a lot of pages have to be filled. Kerry because of their success have a lot of explayers writing in the media and ye guys are well versed in the Yerra. With our recent success we now have a lot more explayers with pieces in the papers and explayers being asked for their opinion. Before replay Topic of conversation on everyone's lips was Keegan v Connolly. It would of annoyed some ex Dublin players the pulling of Keegan the first day and im sure they thought the more they write about it, the more focus it would get, but not all Ger Brennan said it was a man's game and just get on with it. (Do i think it was Orchestrated no, do i think individualky the explayers knew what they were doing Yes) Obviously some ex Mayo lads seen some of the comments and decided to come from a different angle. That it was a witch hunt. Either way the battle of social media now means in future big contests , these comments will be all too common, Every one backs their own and basically no one breaks rank. Everything is used now in the quest for victory. I still believe Johnny Cooper black card paved the way for Keegan to go. Without that one , he may have stayed on the pitch. Sure we will never know. Dublin championship this weekend Dermot Connolly v Johnny Cooper . Their will be no quarter given , Should be interesting.
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Post by delorean on Oct 6, 2016 9:55:40 GMT
Alan Brogan in 2011, though at that stage his role was play-making and linking the play from deep, as well as defending much more than he had ever had in his career up to then. Connolly pretty much became a really top forward that summer, with his performance Vs Tyrone. Yeah I hadn't forgotten about Alan Brogan, I just don't think he really fits the profile of a marquee scoring forward, or certainly didn't by the time 2011 rolled around.
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Post by Dermot on Oct 6, 2016 15:08:25 GMT
Ha, you haven't a clue .. try being from Tyrone .. If a Tyrone player farts he accused of not only bringing "a bad smell" as Colm O'Berk says, but accused of trying to poison the opposing team with a multitude of sickening, below the belt, cloudy blows.... or something like that lol I'm secure enough to think that I do in fact have a clue. And it would appear from your post that its not only Dublin that have a persecution complex! lol .. My comment, unless you didnt notice, was a bit in jest ... However, you guys are newcomers to all this .. we've been persecuted longer than the Israelites
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Post by Dermot on Oct 6, 2016 15:15:32 GMT
BTW - It was a fantastic contest, a brilliant advertisement for Gealic football .. absolutely brilliant .. and Dublin did indeed just about deserve to win .. I still feel terribly sorry for Mayo though and just cant understand how on earth they go through this year after year .. poor buggers
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Post by kerrygold on Oct 6, 2016 15:55:33 GMT
Of no benefit indulging in whataboutery. It was a fascinating contest Dublin just about deserved to win but wouldn't have done so without being blessed with more than their fair share of skilful players. Mayo can hold their heads high going into the winter without needing to console themselves with conspiracy theories. Keegan's black was a proper black for dragging down and not given because Dublin pundits were complaining about him. Any referee who allows himself to be influenced by this stuff shouldn't be allowed to ref an under 14 never mind an AIF. As the cop at the crime scene might say "Nothing more to see here folks. Move along!" I'm absolutely gobsmacked that anyone could categorically consider the Lee Keegan incident with Connolly to be a certain black card. That is that Keegan intentionally pulled Connolly to the ground and that Connolly did not drive or exaggerate the falling movement in anyway to con the ref. It is one of the more grey area black cards that we have seen.
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Post by givehimaball on Oct 6, 2016 16:44:44 GMT
Dont Foul numbers from the replay Figures from both matches combined Review piece here. Key bit for me is on the Mayo forwards and their shooting when under no/minimal pressure. Also some interesting stuff on the kickouts and Keegan's performance. Dont Foul posted some stats for both teams championships and there was a huge difference for Dublin was sc In the 5 games prior to the 2 final games Dublin had 93 kickouts which created 77 attacks from which Dublin scored 3-38. In the 2 final games Dublin had 34 kickouts creating 25 attacks from which Dublin scored 0-3. Overall a serious testament to how effective Mayo were in terms of handling Cluxton's kickouts as a driver of scorers.
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Post by wayupnorth on Oct 6, 2016 17:13:11 GMT
Of no benefit indulging in whataboutery. It was a fascinating contest Dublin just about deserved to win but wouldn't have done so without being blessed with more than their fair share of skilful players. Mayo can hold their heads high going into the winter without needing to console themselves with conspiracy theories. Keegan's black was a proper black for dragging down and not given because Dublin pundits were complaining about him. Any referee who allows himself to be influenced by this stuff shouldn't be allowed to ref an under 14 never mind an AIF. As the cop at the crime scene might say "Nothing more to see here folks. Move along!" I'm absolutely gobsmacked that anyone could categorically consider the Lee Keegan incident with Connolly to be a certain black card. That is that Keegan intentionally pulled Connolly to the ground and that Connolly did not drive or exaggerate the falling movement in anyway to con the ref. It is one of the more grey area black cards that we have seen. Without getting into either players head it's not at all gobsmacking at all to see how the ref deemed it to be black the same way Hennelly got his. A forward rushing through on goal leading to a pull down - more instinctive than malicious but deliberate nonetheless and meriting a black - that's the rule. An exaggeration by Connolly? Perhaps but not as blatant as many others. What would be really gobsmacking would be to think that the ref was waiting for his chance to card Keegan because of what the Dublin pundits were saying.
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 6, 2016 21:28:04 GMT
Dont Foul numbers from the replay Figures from both matches combined Review piece here. Key bit for me is on the Mayo forwards and their shooting when under no/minimal pressure. Also some interesting stuff on the kickouts and Keegan's performance. Dont Foul posted some stats for both teams championships and there was a huge difference for Dublin was sc In the 5 games prior to the 2 final games Dublin had 93 kickouts which created 77 attacks from which Dublin scored 3-38. In the 2 final games Dublin had 34 kickouts creating 25 attacks from which Dublin scored 0-3. Overall a serious testament to how effective Mayo were in terms of handling Cluxton's kickouts as a driver of scorers.
Absolutely agree. Mayo got so much right and then go and blow it all away by dropping Clarke. I was told by a Mayo man today that the rumour is that the Breaffy contingent (O'Sheas mainly) wanted their clubmate Hennelly because they were more used to the trajectory of his kickouts....Clarkes kickouts hang in the air too long being the thinking. There may be no truth in this but at least it provides some rationale for the crazy move of dropping Clarke.
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