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Post by kerrygold on Apr 26, 2016 18:41:42 GMT
Its upon us. So who is going to challenge the Dubs?
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Post by dano on Apr 26, 2016 23:26:28 GMT
Who else is going to challenge them only the mighty Kingdom of Kerry ? There's been a few setbacks but that will be rectified come the Summer.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 27, 2016 6:57:50 GMT
keep talking dano... what would you do to rectify matters between now and say 28th August when Kerry will play Dublin if they get over Cork and the QF.
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Post by gaelicden on May 1, 2016 22:20:15 GMT
Connacht Senior Football Championship Rnd 1 : Roscommon 1-15, New York 0-17. Roscommon escape by the minimum but only for a penalty for Rosommon early in the first half, we would be talking about the shock of the season/decade/century, make your own choice on shock scale.
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Post by dano on May 1, 2016 23:26:19 GMT
Mickmack, a few years ago in a documentary about Kerry Mickey Ned said "there's no 5 year plans in Kerry, the end of September that's all they aim for, bottom line that's all that counts." I don't go in for overanalysing the game or the strategy but I do know that they were in it until Aidan got the red the last day. They had turned over Dublin a few times and were within a score of them. Dublin were fitter and seemed to want it more. In four months I believe the fitness thing will be sorted and I'd refer to Mickey Ned's statement to answer who'll want it more.
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Post by kerrygold on May 3, 2016 8:06:16 GMT
Connacht Senior Football Championship Rnd 1 : Roscommon 1-15, New York 0-17. Roscommon escape by the minimum but only for a penalty for Rosommon early in the first half, we would be talking about the shock of the season/decade/century, make your own choice on shock scale. No household name on the NY team either that I can see. Roscommon's form seems to be slipping, I don't think the option of the back door was available to them in the event of defeat?
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Post by clarinman on May 3, 2016 8:21:59 GMT
Connacht Senior Football Championship Rnd 1 : Roscommon 1-15, New York 0-17. Roscommon escape by the minimum but only for a penalty for Rosommon early in the first half, we would be talking about the shock of the season/decade/century, make your own choice on shock scale. No household name on the NY team either that I can see. Roscommon's form seems to be slipping, I don't think the option of the back door was available to them in the event of defeat? Johnny Duane centre back played with Galway the last few seasons. Glynn centre field played with Galway in the all ireland hurling final last year.
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Post by offalyoutsider on May 3, 2016 22:39:57 GMT
No household name on the NY team either that I can see. Roscommon's form seems to be slipping, I don't think the option of the back door was available to them in the event of defeat? Johnny Duane centre back played with Galway the last few seasons. Glynn centre field played with Galway in the all ireland hurling final last year. Brian Connor son of 1982 captain Richie and nephew to the great Matt Connor was centre forward and kicked 4 points.
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Post by southward on May 4, 2016 7:45:43 GMT
Johnny Duane centre back played with Galway the last few seasons. Glynn centre field played with Galway in the all ireland hurling final last year. Brian Connor son of 1982 captain Richie and nephew to the great Matt Connor was centre forward and kicked 4 points. Paddy McNeice, who was on the Tyrone team/panel the last few years, was playing.
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Post by southward on May 4, 2016 12:02:15 GMT
Connacht Senior Football Championship Rnd 1 : Roscommon 1-15, New York 0-17. Roscommon escape by the minimum but only for a penalty for Rosommon early in the first half, we would be talking about the shock of the season/decade/century, make your own choice on shock scale. No household name on the NY team either that I can see. Roscommon's form seems to be slipping, I don't think the option of the back door was available to them in the event of defeat? Yeah, I think that's correct; it's a preliminary round and as such the back door doesn't apply so they would have been out. Which could have been disastrous - McStay might have ended up back on TSG for the year.
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Post by kerrygold on May 4, 2016 20:07:34 GMT
No household name on the NY team either that I can see. Roscommon's form seems to be slipping, I don't think the option of the back door was available to them in the event of defeat? Yeah, I think that's correct; it's a preliminary round and as such the back door doesn't apply so they would have been out. Which could have been disastrous - McStay might have ended up back on TSG for the year. It would have been an interesting space all right!!!
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Post by Ballyfireside on May 4, 2016 22:51:58 GMT
Maybe Roscommon learned a lesson, and they still came out the right side of it. I saw them in the flesh v Donegal and they will certainly be competitive in a short space of time. The improving economy will also help reduce the flight of players from rural counties and there will also be a loosening of the purse strings.
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on May 5, 2016 8:04:35 GMT
That was certainly a good KUTH for Ros, surviving it will surely bring them on if they really want it. I'm sure KMcStay will do all the right things. Great chance to win Connaught this year with Mayo in a mini-transition period.
Bad luck to NY, would have been great to see them get another game.
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Post by Premier on May 5, 2016 8:39:59 GMT
That was certainly a good KUTH for Ros, surviving it will surely bring them on if they really want it. I'm sure KMcStay will do all the right things. Great chance to win Connaught this year with Mayo in a mini-transition period. Bad luck to NY, would have been great to see them get another game. Pity they've only 1 game alright, you'd think they would have a game versus London every year just for the sake of having another game
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Post by Annascaultilidie on May 5, 2016 8:57:13 GMT
That was certainly a good KUTH for Ros... Should that not be KUTA?
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Post by Jigz84 on May 23, 2016 10:39:38 GMT
Tyrone looked powerful at times yesterday, full of running. But the Derry defending, or lack of it, was laughable at times. Colm Cavanagh is playing his sweeping role very well.
Roscommon won but weren't too impressive by all accounts, Sligo could turn them over again.
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Post by kerryexile on May 23, 2016 11:19:37 GMT
Two clear messages from yesterday's game, 1- Tyrone have big ambitions this year and 2 - they are trying hard to be the darkest of dark horses. They switched off the engines at half time and despite their efforts to put the brakes on (lateral, pedestrian, almost uninterested) they freewheeled to an effortless victory. Derry were extremely poor, beaten at half time and finished with 13 men yet Tyrone could only manage 6 points in the second half.
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Post by jackiel on May 23, 2016 11:36:19 GMT
It was hard to judge properly as Derry were so poor,but I'd imagine we'll be seeing them at semi final stage for sure. I noticed on league final day that they've a new crop of very "built" looking players coming along nicely in time for some of the old soldiers to bow out.
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Post by Dermot on May 23, 2016 11:49:57 GMT
We looked extremely good at times yesterday .. very slick and very fast .. But ive never seen a worse Derry team in all my life .. its not like Derry to be so lackluster ... Im not sure what Bartons plans were but they were well hidden !! So we certainly looked good but we would be unwise to take too much credence from it .... Also, we STILL mist most of our frees and we wont get away with that against the better teams.. We're going the right way though and our Subs bench looks a lot better this year as well, which is almost a prerequisite "vital" nowadays ..
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on May 23, 2016 16:11:25 GMT
That was certainly a good KUTH for Ros... Should that not be KUTA? I prefer KUTH. Maybe it's just slightly ruder............
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Post by Mickmack on May 23, 2016 20:40:10 GMT
We looked extremely good at times yesterday .. very slick and very fast .. But ive never seen a worse Derry team in all my life .. its not like Derry to be so lackluster ... Im not sure what Bartons plans were but they were well hidden !! So we certainly looked good but we would be unwise to take too much credence from it .... Also, we STILL mist most of our frees and we wont get away with that against the better teams.. We're going the right way though and our Subs bench looks a lot better this year as well, which is almost a prerequisite "vital" nowadays .. The main thing for Tyrone is to avoid any controversy or bad press even it means turning the other cheek a little. In the last two semi finals that they lost... against Mayo and Kerry... they came into the game under a cloud of controversy after the quarter final matches with a hysterical Brolly whipping it up as only he can. It doesnt matter whether the bad press was warranted because in both semi finals they got very few of the marginal calls from the ref as a result. Tyrones game plan is very dependent on the opposition letting themselves exposed at the back while on the attack. The top teams dont do that any more. It will be hard to separate Mayo and Tyrone if they meet but Tyrone dont concede goals and Mayo cant stop conceeding them so I think Tyrone would beat them.
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Post by kerrygold on May 24, 2016 12:53:47 GMT
I see Cian O'Neill played two half backs on the half forward line last Sunday, Emmett Bolton and Morgan O'Flaherty and midfielder Paul Cribbin at right corner forward. Depressing stuff, he didn't learn that in Tipp, Mayo or Kerry.
Sorry, that should read listed the three players named above in those positions..............
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Post by Dermot on May 24, 2016 14:28:44 GMT
We looked extremely good at times yesterday .. very slick and very fast .. But ive never seen a worse Derry team in all my life .. its not like Derry to be so lackluster ... Im not sure what Bartons plans were but they were well hidden !! So we certainly looked good but we would be unwise to take too much credence from it .... Also, we STILL mist most of our frees and we wont get away with that against the better teams.. We're going the right way though and our Subs bench looks a lot better this year as well, which is almost a prerequisite "vital" nowadays .. The main thing for Tyrone is to avoid any controversy or bad press even it means turning the other cheek a little. In the last two semi finals that they lost... against Mayo and Kerry... they came into the game under a cloud of controversy after the quarter final matches with a hysterical Brolly whipping it up as only he can. It doesnt matter whether the bad press was warranted because in both semi finals they got very few of the marginal calls from the ref as a result. Tyrones game plan is very dependent on the opposition letting themselves exposed at the back while on the attack. The top teams dont do that any more. It will be hard to separate Mayo and Tyrone if they meet but Tyrone dont concede goals and Mayo cant stop conceeding them so I think Tyrone would beat them. Yeah, Im certainly hoping there will be no controversy but Im sure there probably will be .. deserved or not I fear it will happen due to the very people who are unfortunately listed as "pundits / experts" with RTE !! Anyway, we will struggle on Im sure and hopefully play some good football ... For me, Sunday was especially good due to the likes of Ronan O'Neill showing a bit of form after all his troubles ... He was a brilliant minor but hasnt really showed it at senior champiosnhip level until now .. hopefully it will give him a bit of confidence and himself and the other lads can push on and realise that potential.. Its a bit early days yet but Im beginning to think we may have another top team surfacing in Tyrone .... And it would be great for Sean Cavanagh .. still doing his stuff, he was involved in so many good things on Sunday..
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Post by seamus on May 24, 2016 14:30:05 GMT
Amazing that managers have not learned that most of these defensive setups work fine in tight, provincial grounds but are ruthlessly exposed once they hit the big open spaces and fast track of Croker. Henry Shefflin alluded to the difference between the pace of the ball in Croker vs the duller sod of Thurles last Sunday. Kerry were able to pick their way around Tyrone's set up last August but they do seem to have refined it and added a lot more pace on first look last Sunday. However, the opposition must be taken into account: Warning signs were there when the Derry team was announced with '4 debutants' Reaction- 'Good to see them introducing new blood' Next line -'4 debutants who have never played for Derry at ANY level before'.....! Crazy, crazy, stuff by Damian Barton. Startled earwigs would be kind...
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Post by Dermot on May 24, 2016 14:34:54 GMT
Yeah, Barton was terrible but then again, apparently a lot of the Derry players dont want anything to do with the county team ... just more interested in the club scene ... its always been a bit like that in Derry though .. they even fell out and messed up that brilliant 1993 team, when really they should have went on to win more AIs.
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Post by kerrygold on May 24, 2016 14:47:47 GMT
* sake, imagine listening to Brolly if the ballox had 3-4 All- Ireland medals!
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Post by Dermot on May 24, 2016 15:20:26 GMT
lol .. right enough .. I'd have emigrated .. Chernobyl or somewhere !!
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Post by glengael on May 30, 2016 11:25:10 GMT
Armagh have fallen far from the heights of the past. They didn't look like they even had a game plan yesterday.
It will be interesting to see how Cavan shape up in sterner tests ahead.
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Post by hugh20 on May 30, 2016 11:45:28 GMT
Kieran McGeeney is out of his depth, he had no game plan yesterday or if he did he failed to get the players to execute it. McGeeney was a brilliant player but he lacks imagination and he struggles to motivate players to play for Armagh, this is extremely worrying because he has always been seen as an inspirational figure and one would imagine that he would have been an idol of many of the players now playing. Two or three Crossmaglen players playing.....that is pathetic. Crossmaglen would have given Cavan a better game themselves.
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Post by Jigz84 on May 30, 2016 11:56:38 GMT
If Armagh had scored that penalty it was all to play for with 10 minutes to go but Cavan broke down the field and kicked a point. Armagh packed it in after that. Stefan Campbell missed a 14 yard free in the first half and the penalty was very poor. Hard to fault him too much as he was Armagh's best player. Cavan are ok, they'll put it up to Tyrone for a while.
Limerick v Clare was supposed to have been very poor, with Limerick kicking 6 wides in the first 8 minutes or so.
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