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Post by kerrygold on May 5, 2016 22:29:43 GMT
Similar issue in Tipp Football with the minor dual player being frowned upon this year.
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Post by kerryexile on May 6, 2016 7:27:46 GMT
I would not describe colm orourkes analysis of the league final lazy or lacking in consistency For example, have you ever heard/read him discuss or make much if any reference to modern tactics and developments in the game? I think he's a bit of a bluffer when it comes to that side of things, so fair enough he steers clear of it. But it leaves his pieces looking very light and shallow to be honest. Little or no insight that isn't obvious to everyone at this stage. Very much based on the old days. Pretty much like most of my posts! i agree with Rashers on this one - O'Rourke is more likely to give a philosophical history of football rather than cutting edge analysis of what's happening on the pitch. Like I said previously I think he has lost his enthusiasm which is a pity really because for years he was the voice of reason between two idiots.
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on May 6, 2016 11:26:15 GMT
Its hard for Dublin hurling when their best young players are dual players. Con OCallaghan is a class hurler for Cuala but i doubt if he will even play hurling for Dublin. Gavin is bringing him in already. Same with Cormac Costello. I cant see Ciaran Kilkenny ever playing hurling for Dublin now. Cody would love to see those three coming through for the cats Spot on but that's about the senior hurlers and it's as much a shame for hurling in general that this has developed in this way, as senior hurling desperately needs as many very competitive counties as possible, counties that could theoretically, and in practice have a serious chance of challenging for All-Is for a few years at least. As regards hurling in Dublin in general the investment has been a massive success. Anyway, irrelevant to this thread
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Post by offalyoutsider on May 6, 2016 12:12:51 GMT
Quick question with regards the Paul murphy experiment at centre forward. By all accounts Kerry could really do with murphy back in his natural position to add pace to a backline that is struggling but my question is how come Marc O Se has never been experimented with in such a role that murphy is currently undertaking. Bags of football and I think I am right in saying that he's played there with the club. I don't think it's possible to play O Se and Mahony in the same back if kerry are to win an all Ireland, could swapping murphy and o Se be an option?
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Post by Mickmack on May 7, 2016 11:22:29 GMT
I would not describe colm orourkes analysis of the league final lazy or lacking in consistency For example, have you ever heard/read him discuss or make much if any reference to modern tactics and developments in the game? I think he's a bit of a bluffer when it comes to that side of things, so fair enough he steers clear of it. But it leaves his pieces looking very light and shallow to be honest. Little or no insight that isn't obvious to everyone at this stage. Very much based on the old days. Pretty much like most of my posts! I think Colm just looks beyond all that tactical and trend stuff. The best players are more vision, are more skillful, braver, and will take a game by the scruff of the neck when its there to be won. The best teams have more of them that anyone else. Tyrone had it there for a while. So did Kerry at the same time. Dublin have more of the best players than anyone else now. Reading a game and making it up on the wing cant really be coached. Think Declan and Darragh and several others. Think Sean Cavanagh and Canavan, SON, Dooher. Think Philly McMahon and Cian OSullivan and several other Dublin players now. Of course you need a certain level of cop on tactically (Dublin v Donegal in 2014 for example and Jack OConnors teams always left the back door too much on the latch for my liking) but in the final analysis, all the tactics in the world wont do if you dont have the right players.
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Post by mossie on May 7, 2016 12:29:16 GMT
Its hard for Dublin hurling when their best young players are dual players. Con OCallaghan is a class hurler for Cuala but i doubt if he will even play hurling for Dublin. Gavin is bringing him in already. Same with Cormac Costello. I cant see Ciaran Kilkenny ever playing hurling for Dublin now. Cody would love to see those three coming through for the cats Spot on but that's about the senior hurlers and it's as much a shame for hurling in general that this has developed in this way, as senior hurling desperately needs as many very competitive counties as possible, counties that could theoretically, and in practice have a serious chance of challenging for All-Is for a few years at least. As regards hurling in Dublin in general the investment has been a massive success. Anyway, irrelevant to this thread I believe Diarmuid Connolly is the real hurling jewel that the hurlers could have had Rashers?? Still plays hurling for his club I believe?? Plenty of Kerry footballers could have went on the play senior hurling based on their underage performances - in some instances their clubs didn't even play hurling beyond a certain age Paul Galvin is the obvious one and has a bag of club medals with Lixnaw at all levels and Kerry at B level minor and 21, others less known that had super hurling skills Paul O'Connor(Kenmare), Paul Geaney, Barry O'Sullivan Dingle and his brother Daragh. The Dingle lads travelled to Kilmoyley to play hurling up to under 21 level after Dingle teams folded. Paul Geaney has an Ireland under 21 B hurling medal. The Kerry football manager Eamon Fitzmaurice played midfield against Ken McGrath on a Kerry under 21 team that nearly bt Waterford in Tralee
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on May 7, 2016 12:39:16 GMT
Quick question with regards the Paul murphy experiment at centre forward. By all accounts Kerry could really do with murphy back in his natural position to add pace to a backline that is struggling but my question is how come Marc O Se has never been experimented with in such a role that murphy is currently undertaking. Bags of football and I think I am right in saying that he's played there with the club. I don't think it's possible to play O Se and Mahony in the same back if kerry are to win an all Ireland, could swapping murphy and o Se be an option? Prob for the same reason he will struggle to start in the backs. He doesn't have the pace. Paul plays centre forward as he has the speed to track the runners and get up and down the pitch to link between defence and attack. Marc could have been very good there a few years ago. Don't think he's up to it now. Not against Dublin anyway.
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on May 7, 2016 15:30:00 GMT
Spot on but that's about the senior hurlers and it's as much a shame for hurling in general that this has developed in this way, as senior hurling desperately needs as many very competitive counties as possible, counties that could theoretically, and in practice have a serious chance of challenging for All-Is for a few years at least. As regards hurling in Dublin in general the investment has been a massive success. Anyway, irrelevant to this thread I believe Diarmuid Connolly is the real hurling jewel that the hurlers could have had Rashers?? Still plays hurling for his club I believe?? Plenty of Kerry footballers could have went on the play senior hurling based on their underage performances - in some instances their clubs didn't even play hurling beyond a certain age Paul Galvin is the obvious one and has a bag of club medals with Lixnaw at all levels and Kerry at B level minor and 21, others less known that had super hurling skills Paul O'Connor(Kenmare), Paul Geaney, Barry O'Sullivan Dingle and his brother Daragh. The Dingle lads travelled to Kilmoyley to play hurling up to under 21 level after Dingle teams folded. Paul Geaney has an Ireland under 21 B hurling medal. The Kerry football manager Eamon Fitzmaurice played midfield against Ken McGrath on a Kerry under 21 team that nearly bt Waterford in Tralee Indeed he was/is Mossie, and in the earlier years at senior level he preferred the hurling. Bad luck to Kerry in the hurling today. Says alot about how far Westmeath have come. Offaly won today so puts it in context, Carlow are not complete mugs lately.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on May 8, 2016 12:23:58 GMT
Mannion is a class player.
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Post by sullyschoice on May 8, 2016 21:35:21 GMT
Maybe he might feck off back to China.
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