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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Mar 8, 2016 9:45:39 GMT
Maybe the root of it was Rory trying to prove he could do what Jim couldn't, and it would certainly have improved his standing? His animated decorum suggests it and such initiatives always backfire as you are putting barriers in front of you where none existed. Having seen Donegal v Mayo in the flesh a short week ago I can't believe we put 5 between us, next Sunday is the final piece in that jigsaw where home advantage is trending, well with the exception of Dublin in Castlebar. I think Donegal played great football in 2012. But it was based on an ability to be very tight defensively and to dictate/control games almost from start to finish. They don't seem to be able to do the defensive part of that anymore (not do it good enough to be worth it). And that's with the tactics still being relatively defensive. Therefore my point is they need something different. Unless of course they go on to reach the league final now playing this way and to perform generally very well. But I think there's enough evidence from the last 3 years, even allowing for players naturally ageing/ declining, retired or injured, to suggest that they would be better served with something different, that they could maximise their resources better. A fast running game with more players committed forward, in other words more risk. But less physically wearing. I think this was traditionally their style and the difference from the past is they now (still) have the players and the basis/confidence upon which to do it really well. Every team these days has to go defensive at times (after conceding some damaging scores, holding a lead near the end, player(s) lost to cards, injury during a game, what way the opposition are playing etc). And of course they will be still very well equipped to do that as well. One of the reasons I think they are and will continue to struggle to do a bit better (because they are doing very well still, I just think they could be doing better) is that their game is based still more on power and strength than on speed. This is more attritional and energy-sapping, and barring Donegal in 2012 (nearly in 2011 and 2014) no team can keep that up. Apart from anything else Donegal have looked absolutely knackered in 2013 and 2015, and as the years go by they are going to be generally more knackered as a squad, IMO. Decline will be inevitable, before it need to be. To put it in perspective, Michael Murphy, now a big, power-heavy type of player who has to win ball and tackle alot all over the field, will IMO physically decline before his time. The fact that they haven't been able to get close to winning the top league competition in the past few years, and have lost two Ulster finals they should have been winning (clearly better team/squad player for player than Monaghan), and ran out of steam/weren't able to attack more in the 2014 final are for me more arguments against them continuing with this adapted but essentially power/strength defensive/counter-attack style of football.
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Post by kerrygold on Mar 8, 2016 10:04:47 GMT
One of the highlights for me was the performance of Mark Griffin away from the square! Many, including myself have longed to see him positioned somewhere in the half back line where his strength and athleticism can shine- he did not disappoint in this regard on Sunday; alas, when competing 1:1 with Murphy on the edge of the square, he was beaten and we end up conceding the goal; I hope EF & Co will pitch him in at 6 next week against Mayo where his physique should be seen to good effect. Mark deserves a run at wing back and should be coached into the position.
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Post by kerryexile on Mar 8, 2016 10:11:41 GMT
I don’t think that Donaghy should have gotten a card for the first big incident (there was a smell of sulphur from the throw in). An obvious tactic (as was proven in the hurling game) was for the team with the strong wind in the first half to build up as big a lead as possible. This means taking quick frees. Murphy kept the ball when Kerry were awarded a free. Such negative tactics are such a part of some Ulster counties tactics that they think they have a divine right to get away with them. Any reaction should bring a card.
In fact whatever happens after the ball is kept is the second incident. The referee should deal with the first incident. For example if a player is pushed in the back and subsequently touches the ball on the ground it is the push that will be dealt with.
I accept that the melee that followed on Sunday superseded the holding of the ball but it was correct that Donaghy didn’t get a card.
If we were to meet them in August (or September?) I think Kerry will have gained more pluses than Donegal from Sunday 1) We showed we have the conviction and knowhow to stand up to “Ulster” football. 2) We won so we have the mental advantage 3) If Croke Park now considers it to be a game that must be very strictly refereed that will suit us perfectly
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Post by buck02 on Mar 8, 2016 10:33:05 GMT
Can anyone tell me if they put in new goals as well? Because I've never seen the tops of the posts move so much, there was a time in the second half when it wasn't inconceivable one of them coming down such was the velocity of their movement. Amazingly, with all their moving Donegal managed to hit them three times, Hawkeye could be an issue in Stacks Park. Yup brand new goals as well, identical to the ones in Croke Park. What they probably didnt take into account when installing those goalposts in Austin Stack Park is: a) Its much windier in Kerry than it is in Dublin b) You dont have the equivalent of a 20 storey building around three-quarters of Austin Stack Park to reduce the wind impact on the pitch The goal-posts were shaking something crazy on Sunday - I'd guess the top of them were swaying 2 feet either direction. As if the umpires jobs aren't difficult enough.
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Post by kerrygold on Mar 8, 2016 10:37:15 GMT
Yup brand new goals as well, identical to the ones in Croke Park. What they probably didnt take into account when installing those goalposts in Austin Stack Park is: a) Its much windier in Kerry than it is in Dublin b) You dont have the equivalent of a 20 storey building around three-quarters of Austin Stack Park to reduce the wind impact on the pitch The goal-posts were shaking something crazy on Sunday - I'd guess the top of them were swaying 2 feet either direction. As if the umpires jobs aren't difficult enough. I guess Soulless Bowl would have a place in Tralee so? ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by buck02 on Mar 8, 2016 10:39:35 GMT
What they probably didnt take into account when installing those goalposts in Austin Stack Park is: a) Its much windier in Kerry than it is in Dublin b) You dont have the equivalent of a 20 storey building around three-quarters of Austin Stack Park to reduce the wind impact on the pitch The goal-posts were shaking something crazy on Sunday - I'd guess the top of them were swaying 2 feet either direction. As if the umpires jobs aren't difficult enough. I guess soulless Bowl would have a place in Tralee so? Jesus Kerrygold you have a long memory ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) I'm sure those corporate boxes up in Ballybeggan would have been full on Sunday!!!
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Post by kerrygold on Mar 8, 2016 10:41:58 GMT
I guess soulless Bowl would have a place in Tralee so? Jesus Kerrygold you have a long memory ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) I'm sure those corporate boxes up in Ballybeggan would have been full on Sunday!!! Ya, like an Elephant............... Ya again, I'd be there eating prawn sandwiches ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png)
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Mar 8, 2016 10:49:08 GMT
I don’t think that Donaghy should have gotten a card for the first big incident (there was a smell of sulphur from the throw in). An obvious tactic (as was proven in the hurling game) was for the team with the strong wind in the first half to build up as big a lead as possible. This means taking quick frees. Murphy kept the ball when Kerry were awarded a free. Such negative tactics are such a part of some Ulster counties tactics that they think they have a divine right to get away with them. Any reaction should bring a card. In fact whatever happens after the ball is kept is the second incident. The referee should deal with the first incident. For example if a player is pushed in the back and subsequently touches the ball on the ground it is the push that will be dealt with. I accept that the melee that followed on Sunday superseded the holding of the ball but it was correct that Donaghy didn’t get a card. If we were to meet them in August (or September?) I think Kerry will have gained more pluses than Donegal from Sunday 1) We showed we have the conviction and knowhow to stand up to “Ulster” football. 2) We won so we have the mental advantage 3) If Croke Park now considers it to be a game that must be very strictly refereed that will suit us perfectly I just watched the replay of it there. It happened very fast, looks like Murphy thought it was a Donegal free and grabbed the ball, so not really 'holding it'/delaying at that point. Donaghy tried to grab it off him straight away but also grabbed Murphy in the same moment and in about one second had pulled him to the ground. Arm around the neck. After that, it's all interpretation. Looks like Donaghy used the opportunity to assert something, "we're not going to be dictated to here", or some such. This was the first game between the teams since the 2014 final, I think to be fair to both teams there were scores to be settled, and in the heat of the hype yesterday about the incidents etc I over-analysed it (not for the first time!) AT the end of the day, Kerry officially knocked Donegal from their perch two years ago, not just by winning but by winning in the final, by winning a very tough game, by beating Donegal to some extent at their own game, and in general they really got under their skin. Though there was the width of a post in it at the end, the manner of defeat must have hurt Donegal more than apparent at the time. The goals they conceded undermined alot of what they had built up the previous few years. They felt they got suckered that day and let slip their position so hard-won. They've been chasing it in frustration ever since. Sunday was the follow-up and all their frustrations crystalised. Regardless of the league situation or outcome they really didn't want Kerry to get another march on them.
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Post by Jigz84 on Mar 8, 2016 10:54:17 GMT
I don’t think that Donaghy should have gotten a card for the first big incident (there was a smell of sulphur from the throw in). An obvious tactic (as was proven in the hurling game) was for the team with the strong wind in the first half to build up as big a lead as possible. This means taking quick frees. Murphy kept the ball when Kerry were awarded a free. Such negative tactics are such a part of some Ulster counties tactics that they think they have a divine right to get away with them. Any reaction should bring a card. In fact whatever happens after the ball is kept is the second incident. The referee should deal with the first incident. For example if a player is pushed in the back and subsequently touches the ball on the ground it is the push that will be dealt with. I accept that the melee that followed on Sunday superseded the holding of the ball but it was correct that Donaghy didn’t get a card. If we were to meet them in August (or September?) I think Kerry will have gained more pluses than Donegal from Sunday 1) We showed we have the conviction and knowhow to stand up to “Ulster” football. 2) We won so we have the mental advantage 3) If Croke Park now considers it to be a game that must be very strictly refereed that will suit us perfectly I just watched the replay of it there. It happened very fast, looks like Murphy thought it was a Donegal free and grabbed the ball, so not really 'holding it'/delaying at that point. Donaghy tried to grab it off him straight away but also grabbed Murphy in the same moment and in about one second had pulled him to the ground. Arm around the neck. After that, it's all interpretation. Looks like Donaghy used the opportunity to assert something, "we're not going to be dictated to here", or some such. This was the first game between the teams since the 2014 final, I think to be fair to both teams there were scores to be settled, and in the heat of the hype yesterday about the incidents etc I over-analysed it (not for the first time!) Also played League game in Tralee last year and there was no trouble.
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Mar 8, 2016 10:55:59 GMT
I just watched the replay of it there. It happened very fast, looks like Murphy thought it was a Donegal free and grabbed the ball, so not really 'holding it'/delaying at that point. Donaghy tried to grab it off him straight away but also grabbed Murphy in the same moment and in about one second had pulled him to the ground. Arm around the neck. After that, it's all interpretation. Looks like Donaghy used the opportunity to assert something, "we're not going to be dictated to here", or some such. This was the first game between the teams since the 2014 final, I think to be fair to both teams there were scores to be settled, and in the heat of the hype yesterday about the incidents etc I over-analysed it (not for the first time!) Also played League game in Tralee last year and there was no trouble. Ah, I thought Donegal were in Div 2 last year, it was the year before! Bang goes another theory......
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Post by Dermot on Mar 8, 2016 11:18:37 GMT
Lads it was a terrible spectacle but reading most of the posts on here you would think that Donegal were the sole perpetrators ... The ole green tinted glasses are back on sale I see :-) lol ... I always have to laugh when, as often happens, Kerry are involved in a game like this, and the majority of posters on here act like its something 'startlingly' new and come out with some wonderful illusions such as "we showed them we couldnt be bullied" or "them bloody Ulster teams are always at this" ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) etc.. etc.. Do you not think you should take some responsibility .. at least some of the time ?
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Post by kerryexile on Mar 8, 2016 12:53:37 GMT
Well Mr Rashers, I think that he is getting good football out of them. I was at the Cork game and although Cork were terrible, we played great football, so there is no issue with potential. I managed to bring myself to watching the game again today. I have to say that as ugly as it was, I would not say that donegal came down with a plan to rub Kerry up the wrong way. I think that the entire tone of the game was set by the first incident involving our team captain being dangerously flung to the ground ufc style. The rest of the game was an ugly mess, punctuated by Sheehan's fine scores. I am disgusted that our seasoned players behaved in the way that they did, and that our line did likewise. I was not at the game, but have no reason to disbelieve the accounts from the stands on here about the antics of our manager. Diving likewise, or goading players to react and then going down or pointing to the ref is not what people should be paying into see. I am curious as to what happened our full forward martin Reilly who was blood substituted in the 2nd half. This game was like an international rules test that we all remember for the wrong reasons about 10 years ago. The ref got it wrong early days too. He should have black carded or red carded Donaghy and perhaps a donegal player who was first in on top in the melee. That might have sorted heads out early days. But it wasnt, and controlling the game was thus like trying to keep the tide out with a fork. I read somewhere that kerry played 3 games without incident this year before this match. Likewise is the case with our own lads. There would have been no plan to spoil before the game in either camp. We had nothing to gain from getting 2 points in the game. I really hope that if we manage to meet later on this year that it will be water under the bridge. If the gets as bad as it was yesterday on a consistent level, then it is something that no one will be playing never mind paying into in the future. When the 'Gang of Four' go to war
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Still, the enmity between these rivals surfaced just about everywhere, never more apparent than the four minutes and 11 seconds it took to take a penalty from the foul on Mayo's Evan Regan to Diarmuid O'Connor's conversion. In between was particularly boisterous pushing, shoving and grabbing, for which two players were booked. ......
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Post by kerryman99 on Mar 8, 2016 13:04:51 GMT
I agree with a previous poster that Donaghy seems to be moving very well, still looks big but leaner and more agile and was full of running. Will be interesting to see where he ends up or perhaps an impact sub?
Bryan also looks in great shape and was my MOTM by a mile.
@ Dermot, several posters have commented on the antics that Kerry were at. Specifically AOM jumping around like a loon, shouting and roaring. Donaghy was silly to haul down Murphy, but I didn't think it was that dangerous. Does a black card still apply when the ball is out of play?
Seem to be plenty of people thinking Bryan should have walked for a punch, was this the push to the face of the Donegal player(Kavanagh?) who collapsed in the second half? I wouldn't call that a punch. Kavanagh was at it all day, stupid from an experienced player. He was only there to get Bryan sent off.
The 2 serious punches thrown were the one on Marc and the one on Magee - the latter was deserved for a filthy act, the former was a nasty sly dig by the Donegal player.
Ironically, Donegal's tactic of slowing down the game and wasting time worked a treat in the first half and I couldn't see them losing at HT, but they were poor with the wind.
Overall, I think the game will really bring Kerry on. It wasn't a day for kicking points - so the tactic of working it closer to goals and fisting it over was good. I don't think it will become a feature of our play.
Bryan and Murphy were a joy to watch from placed balls, they are the best around.
Daly and Fitzgerald will be seriously disappointed not to have got more gametime, a big chance gone a begging perhaps. Hopefully they get more chances.
Lastly, I wonder would Magee have tried to break Tommy Walsh's finger? I doubt it, he showed himself to be a coward.
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Post by fivenarow on Mar 8, 2016 13:09:26 GMT
Lads it was a terrible spectacle but reading most of the posts on here you would think that Donegal were the sole perpetrators ... The ole green tinted glasses are back on sale I see :-) lol ... I always have to laugh when, as often happens, Kerry are involved in a game like this, and the majority of posters on here act like its something 'startlingly' new and come out with some wonderful illusions such as "we showed them we couldnt be bullied" or "them bloody Ulster teams are always at this" ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) etc.. etc.. Do you not think you should take some responsibility .. at least some of the time ? No? ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) ? Like Morgan freeman said in the shawshank redemption, we're all innocent in here? ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) ?
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Post by Ballyfireside on Mar 8, 2016 13:15:18 GMT
Donegalman isn't far off there and the Mayo Donegal encounter was also placed demands on the ref he couldn't cope with. That game was also played in what can only be described as superb conditions so that and along with the '14 hangover were the active ingredients that made for a rather interesting cocktail. I suppose that we needed to win also motivated Rory to deprive us and given their momentum you could see why he would seize on the opportunity to have us relegated.
The year is well set up but it is a pity that it is such a narrow base of counties that are in contention. Hurling is the minority sport by comparison yet there are more with a chance. The worrying thing is that nobody is interested in getting to the root cause, least of all the politicians who are united that nothing will be done.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Mar 8, 2016 13:17:31 GMT
I can see where some people are coming from. Donaghy would have got a red with a stricter ref for hauling Murphy to the ground. Both teams were as bad as each other. In year gone by Kerry would have shirked away from that carry on but, under Eamonn I think they have adopted the attitude that if you want to fight we'll fight too which is fair enough.
Kerry aren't any angels and I don't think people are making them out to be. As I think I have previously mentioned Mahony was as bad as Kavanagh for roaring and goading players.
There was a few pups on both teams but the majority was just messing. The only real unsavoury incidents were the melee from the donaghy 'throwdown' and mcgee /fitzgearld. I thought the second half was OK. If the ref could lay down the law at half time the the managers could he not have done similar to the captains on the pitch in the first half?
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Post by donegalman on Mar 8, 2016 13:47:10 GMT
Every year for the past few years, there has been a rotten bubble under the wallpaper in this game that when pressed down, appears somewhere else. The black card was introduced, and the GAA heads congratulated themselves on a job well done, irrespective of how pathetically it has worked. The answer is exclusively in copying a template that works. We have to look at soccer, rugby, american football or even the AFL to find out what works and what does not. I am afraid that the GAA wont do this, because it will show them up a bit for introducing a rule that did not work and it would involve copying rules from a code that they wont want to be seen to copy.
Dermot is correct, there has to be blame, responsibility or whatever else you want to call it rested on all shoulders even if it means admitting that there is something wrong close to home. Remember the league encounters last year involving Mayo, dublin and Cork. There were serious breeches of discipline in all games. Kerry have to play a really big game against mayo next weekend, and the following fixture includes a match with cork. Would it be a coincidence if there were trouble at either match, or would it be a case of either team 'defending themselves' against the aggressor.
This is going to repeat add infinitum, unless there is black and white rules, and black and white enforcement of the rules. Sin bin. Name and shame disqualifying from all stars/motm. Heavy fines. Suspension with double penalty on unsuccessful appeal. Straight red for clothes line tackle. Video evidence in play. 10 second window on taking a free from hands, otherwise you have to take it from the ground. 30 second window for free to be taken from the ground. (If the keeper comes up to take it, he would have to be a good sprinter).
Winning at all costs has totally warped into something beyond competition.
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Post by Control5 on Mar 8, 2016 13:52:43 GMT
Dermot. Your post is not representative of the vast majority of posters who can see that it takes too to tango. Don't paint everyone with the same brush to try to draw a reaction.
Anyone in their right mind would be upset at what happened to Kerry's number 14
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Post by Dermot on Mar 8, 2016 14:21:04 GMT
Dermot. Your post is not representative of the vast majority of posters who can see that it takes too to tango. Don't paint everyone with the same brush to try to draw a reaction. It certainly does take two to tango but Im used to coming on here and hearing about how disgraceful the "Nordie" teams are, esp Tyrone ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) and how its all their fault ... Im trying to shine a light on the fact that Kerry are involved in just as many of these incidents as the teams they like to castigate on here the most .... If pointing that out makes you and others think im doing it on for a reaction then Im afraid you're mistaken .. Im pointing out facts to try, yet again, to get a bit of balance !! Also, I see you have removed my response to Sully's post and indeed his initial post where he gets personal "again" ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png) .. probably for the best !! .. I know he's a great fella underneath it all though !! Anyone in their right mind would be upset at what happened to Kerry's number 14 Of course they would but for most (not all .. there's still the usual sensible posters) to fixate on that and basically excuse/ignore the antics of certain Kerry players is a bit nuts is it not ?
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Post by G_S_J on Mar 8, 2016 14:25:33 GMT
Yup brand new goals as well, identical to the ones in Croke Park. What they probably didnt take into account when installing those goalposts in Austin Stack Park is: a) Its much windier in Kerry than it is in Dublin b) You dont have the equivalent of a 20 storey building around three-quarters of Austin Stack Park to reduce the wind impact on the pitch The goal-posts were shaking something crazy on Sunday - I'd guess the top of them were swaying 2 feet either direction. As if the umpires jobs aren't difficult enough. Looks like it might be another windy again tomorrow night. It's difficult for the umpires, but also freetakers as well, bad enough kicking into a gale never mind having to also aim at a moving target. I'll be honest, I've never seen posts move as much, so much so it's hard not to see it become an issue. Id fear for them if we get another one of those named storms.
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Post by fitz on Mar 8, 2016 20:47:57 GMT
Dermot. Your post is not representative of the vast majority of posters who can see that it takes too to tango. Don't paint everyone with the same brush to try to draw a reaction. It certainly does take two to tango but Im used to coming on here and hearing about how disgraceful the "Nordie" teams are, esp Tyrone ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) and how its all their fault ... Im trying to shine a light on the fact that Kerry are involved in just as many of these incidents as the teams they like to castigate on here the most .... If pointing that out makes you and others think im doing it on for a reaction then Im afraid you're mistaken .. Im pointing out facts to try, yet again, to get a bit of balance !! Also, I see you have removed my response to Sully's post and indeed his initial post where he gets personal "again" ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png) .. probably for the best !! .. I know he's a great fella underneath it all though !! Anyone in their right mind would be upset at what happened to Kerry's number 14 Of course they would but for most (not all .. there's still the usual sensible posters) to fixate on that and basically excuse/ignore the antics of certain Kerry players is a bit nuts is it not ? I don't think that's accurate Dermot, that the "it's ALL their fault" is the reflective opinion of the Kerry posters that when there is a heated encounter, whether it is Kerry v the Ulster teams as is your example or indeed Kerry v any team. Maybe some posters but for the majority, it is just not true. I'm not sure who started what on Sunday but there were certainly both sets of players involved and Kerry will deserve the sanctions imposed by the GAA as part of the punishment issued. I think there will be always some bias toward one's owe county in reviewing such matches, but I'd put it back to you that whilst you wish to introduce the balance to the the discussion you specifically look for the counter opinion to the Kerry view to achieve that balance. You're correct to try to look for that but I don't think it's reasonable to ignore the Kerry viewpoint at the same time, or to fleetingly refer to it, if providing a balanced view. I'd take that as an instinctive reaction from a non-Kerry contributor, any non-Kerry contributor but that itself means it is not devoid of balance either. An example being "for most to fixate on that". You're right the antics of the Kerry playesr should not be ignored in anyway, but the incident with McGee/Fitzgerald should absolutely be fixated upon by everyone who saw it no matter who they support. This crossed any defined line of acceptability of conduct on a pitch. The lack of provocation, intuitive motivation, or even a pumped up instense situation all made it even more reprehensible. What the **** is wrong with Neil McGee? He should ship some serious punishment for this. Fitzgerald despite being reactive/defensive can't throw three punches into the face of an opponent and will need to take whatver number of match supsensions he issued, even though it will be tough to swallow (that is boased ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) )but don't try and tell me ANYONE would feel different if it was one of their own players to which that was subjected.
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Post by aranteorainn on Mar 8, 2016 20:58:16 GMT
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 8, 2016 20:59:24 GMT
I am delighted that our old friend rashers has got his eyesight back fully. I was worried about him there round the third week of September 2015 but it 20;20 again now it seems. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 8, 2016 21:07:56 GMT
so does Alan Fitzgerald get a ban for preventing his fingers from being broken? FFS. Very surprised that no one from the big scrap got sanctioned
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Post by veteran on Mar 8, 2016 21:37:15 GMT
What ban does Alan get?
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Post by givehimaball on Mar 8, 2016 21:44:45 GMT
Standard 1 match for a straight red.
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Post by homerj on Mar 8, 2016 21:46:17 GMT
THE CENTRAL COMPETITIONS CONTROLS COMMITTEE (CCCC) have come down heavy on Donegal and Kerry following the ugly scenes that marred the first half of Sunday’s Allianz Football League clash in Tralee. The two counties have each been hit with fines of €7,500 while Donegal full-back Neil McGee has been given a one-game ban. McGee was involved in an incident in the seventh minute that led to Alan Fitzgerald being red carded. Fitzgerald was sent off after striking McGee, who was shown on TV replays to have pulled the hand of Fitzgerald in an aggressive manner. Having reviewed the footage of the incident, disciplinary chiefs have slapped McGee with a retrospective one-match ban having found him guilty of a category 3 infraction. The Gaoth Dobhair man is now set to miss Sunday’s game against Roscommon at O’Donnell Park. No Kerry player has been cited for sanction.
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Post by kerrygold on Mar 8, 2016 21:55:24 GMT
PG would have got two to three months for that, usual Joke Park outcome. Is AF's red card rescinded or will he have to present himself at the kangaroo courts and prove self defence? I presume the KCB will appeal the ridiculous 7.5k fine? I'd like to know how Joke Park distinguish between 5 and 7.5k fines for different bust ups........................ Is it a bit like card scoring in boxing, punches landed or is there a scale refereed to for the degree of nastiness. The older I get the more cynical I get towards the Ala Carte menu on offering from the suits. Maybe because both counties wear green and gold the fine is front loaded.
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Post by wayupnorth on Mar 8, 2016 22:08:08 GMT
So hefty fines for both counties: probably justified
A one match ban for McGee: much too lenient but probably the maximum that can be given for this infringement. Donegal should not appeal and the rest of us should park the matter of just punishment and move on.
Should Kerry appeal Alan's red card? There are certainly grounds to do so given McGee's ban but the card was correct on the grounds of striking an opponent regardless of cause. I know there are some high profile reversals in similar situations but perhaps an appeal would be too much of a distraction?
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