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Post by shaggy04 on Jun 6, 2016 12:38:06 GMT
The draws for the Castleisland Mart Premier Junior and Junior Club Football Championship semi-finals were made live on Radio Kerry this afternoon.
Junior Premier- Listowel Emmets v Na Gaeil Dromid Pearses or Glenbeigh -Glencar v Ballydonoghue
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Post by buck02 on Sept 21, 2016 17:43:16 GMT
Semi finals on Sunday in Austin Stack Park.
On form Glenbeigh should account for Ballydonoghue.
The other game could be a real cracker and I wouldnt rule out extra time. Very hard to call it but I'll just about go for Listowel.
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Post by actionman on Sept 23, 2016 10:48:31 GMT
Ballydonoghue have all their players back and will be a stern test for Glenbeigh who will be without county star Darran OSullivan, I predict an upset here Ballydonoghue by 1pt. Na Gael are flying this year and will pose a major test for Listowel, again going for the underdog Na Gael by 4pts.
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Post by southward on Sept 26, 2016 20:16:53 GMT
Na Gaeil 3-14 Listowel 1-13 (1-10 to 0-5 at HT)
Not even an injury time goal could put a sheen of respectability on this one for Emmets. Despite fielding a strong side, including the return of Conor Cox and Jack Maguire as well as Kerry minors Niall Collins and Brian Sweeney, Listowel were simply destroyed all over the field. Na Gaeil, who were superior for pace, fitness, sharpness, hunger and awareness, raced into a 6-0 lead before Listowel woke up at all. Their first goal before half-time ended the game as a contest.
Nice brand of football played by Na Gaeil. Had a decent and vocal support out too. Not at all flattered by the final scoreline; the margin could have been a lot higher.
The only pity was that it wasn't a closer contest; I'd been looking forward to this one but it was a bit of a procession really. Congrats to Na Gaeil, fine looking side.
Couldn't stay for the second game - Glenbeigh/Glencar won by 2 pts.
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Post by actionman on Sept 27, 2016 8:31:02 GMT
Any report on the other semifinal?
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Post by glengael on Sept 27, 2016 11:18:13 GMT
Where do Na Gaeil draw their players from?
As a non-Tralee person, I'm not quite sure of how one would decide on the 'local club' in our capital town. I know the old certainties around geography have changed quite a bit but would be curious to know where would be considered their base.
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Post by decondd2 on Sept 27, 2016 18:30:41 GMT
Where do Na Gaeil draw their players from? As a non-Tralee person, I'm not quite sure of how one would decide on the 'local club' in our capital town. I know the old certainties around geography have changed quite a bit but would be curious to know where would be considered their base. Oakpark, Rahonane and Shanakill traditionally. From St.Brendans church on the town side out as far as Listellick School. Then drawing in from the back of the racecourse around Ballinorig area (but not as far in as Rath Cemetary which is Mitchells Country along with Marian Park and the like). Also recently a lot of young Hurlers from Abbeydorney like to come in and play with the big ball with Na Gaeil. With Scoil Mhic Easmainn and Listellick so close a lot of kids who go to the schools regardless of where they live want to play with Na Gaeil due to friendships etc. Fantastic work being done at underage there for years, but it never really came together at senior until recently. Winning the Novice a few years back and then getting to the Junior Final against Kenmare shortly after was an achievement. Serious change of attitude this year and with only 1 loss in League and Championship, they will give Glenbeigh a rattle.
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Post by actionman on Sept 27, 2016 19:26:56 GMT
I guess there was nobody at the other semifinal, from what I hear Glenbeigh were very poor and can count themselves lucky to be in yet another final.
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Post by kerrygold on Sept 27, 2016 20:45:14 GMT
How strong are na Gaeil? It would be nice to see Darran taking the bull by the horns and dominating this upcoming Junior final and getting his club over the like Bryan Sheehan and Declan have done for South Kerry over the years.
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Post by greengold35 on Sept 27, 2016 21:30:51 GMT
How strong are na Gaeil? It would be nice to see Darran taking the bull by the horns and dominating this upcoming Junior final and getting his club over the like Bryan Sheehan and Declan have done for South Kerry over the years. Great win for Na Gaeil, but would wonder how Emmets were so poor - it was rumoured last week that they were not getting a full turn out in training for what ever reason. Think Darran is not 100% fit and is a doubt for Mid Kerry this week end.
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Post by southward on Sept 28, 2016 18:23:50 GMT
Where do Na Gaeil draw their players from? As a non-Tralee person, I'm not quite sure of how one would decide on the 'local club' in our capital town. I know the old certainties around geography have changed quite a bit but would be curious to know where would be considered their base. Oakpark, Rahonane and Shanakill traditionally. From St.Brendans church on the town side out as far as Listellick School. Then drawing in from the back of the racecourse around Ballinorig area (but not as far in as Rath Cemetary which is Mitchells Country along with Marian Park and the like).
Also recently a lot of young Hurlers from Abbeydorney like to come in and play with the big ball with Na Gaeil. With Scoil Mhic Easmainn and Listellick so close a lot of kids who go to the schools regardless of where they live want to play with Na Gaeil due to friendships etc. Fantastic work being done at underage there for years, but it never really came together at senior until recently. Winning the Novice a few years back and then getting to the Junior Final against Kenmare shortly after was an achievement. Serious change of attitude this year and with only 1 loss in League and Championship, they will give Glenbeigh a rattle. Is St Brendan's Park Na Gaeil catchment now then? It would always have been Stacks' turf. Mikey Sheehy came from there.
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Post by southward on Sept 28, 2016 18:35:05 GMT
How strong are na Gaeil? It would be nice to see Darran taking the bull by the horns and dominating this upcoming Junior final and getting his club over the like Bryan Sheehan and Declan have done for South Kerry over the years. Great win for Na Gaeil, but would wonder how Emmets were so poor - it was rumoured last week that they were not getting a full turn out in training for what ever reason. Think Darran is not 100% fit and is a doubt for Mid Kerry this week end. Surprised at Emmetts. Seemed to have been going well enough in Div 2 this year and playing decent football. Strong side out too but they seemed away off the pace of the opposition. Na Gaeil were impressive though so let's give them the credit here. Only dropped two points in the league as well - look like an up and coming side.
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 28, 2016 21:45:05 GMT
Oakpark was always Stacks territory. Ger OKeeffe was from Oakpark i think.
Mikey Sheehy was born a Mitchells man but the family moved to Stacks territory when he was young. As far as i know Mikeys dad hailed from South Kerry but not certain
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2016 4:13:02 GMT
Oak park has been traditional nagael territory for the last 30 years. I agree Brendan's park is rockie territory. Obviously as the town spreads, things become more fluid. Nagael have tended to be squeezed by the other 3 town clubs.
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Post by decondd2 on Sept 29, 2016 14:54:37 GMT
Oakpark, Rahonane and Shanakill traditionally. From St.Brendans church on the town side out as far as Listellick School. Then drawing in from the back of the racecourse around Ballinorig area (but not as far in as Rath Cemetary which is Mitchells Country along with Marian Park and the like).
Also recently a lot of young Hurlers from Abbeydorney like to come in and play with the big ball with Na Gaeil. With Scoil Mhic Easmainn and Listellick so close a lot of kids who go to the schools regardless of where they live want to play with Na Gaeil due to friendships etc. Fantastic work being done at underage there for years, but it never really came together at senior until recently. Winning the Novice a few years back and then getting to the Junior Final against Kenmare shortly after was an achievement. Serious change of attitude this year and with only 1 loss in League and Championship, they will give Glenbeigh a rattle. Is St Brendan's Park Na Gaeil catchment now then? It would always have been Stacks' turf. Mikey Sheehy came from there. You are right, St. Brendan's Church is probably a bit far. Maybe Gallowsfield would be the cut off. There would be a split there between Stacks and Na Gaeil. Na Gaeil suffered for years with star underage players being poached by the Stacks, but it doesn't happen as often (or maybe at all) any more. William Kirby was a Na Gaeil man underage before the Rockies lured him away! He has given some service to Stacks football in fairness to hi,
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Post by shaggy04 on Oct 16, 2016 19:14:21 GMT
Any reports from this game, sounded bizzare enough, glenbeigh with 13 men for half an hour!
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Post by greengold35 on Oct 16, 2016 19:58:04 GMT
In fairness, this was poor fare, with very little to get enthused about for the neutral.I expected GG after their near misses and with Div 1 experience to be far too good for the Tralee side; the opposite was the case particularly in the opening half and GG will be wondering how they ended up in front at half time 1-4 to 0-4 ahead. In this half, Na Gaeil had all the play thanks to Jack Barry at midfield and his brother Andrew at centre back and took the game to their opponents. Leading by 0-3 to nil, Na Gaeil hit the butt of an upright with the keeper beaten and should have had a green flag shortly afterwards. GG got back in the game through good work from their no 5 ( Jack Brosnan), and a general improvement all round. Darran slipped a goal when beating the advancing keeper to a through ball and they looked good at half time. Scores were at a premium all through the second half and GG imploded in a 3 minute spell when two of their forwards were red carded, justifiably so after one kicked an opponent and the other seemed to head butt his marker. Thrown a life line, Na Gaeil did everything possible not to win this game, kicking some aimless balls in to their forwards where at times they had no more than 2 men upfront! At 1-4 to 0-6 GG took on a new lease of life with Pa Kilkenny prominent and also Darran putting in some good work- they seemed to have secured the elusive title when forging 1-6 to 0-6 ahead but then Na Gaeil desperately threw men forward and secured 3 points in the dying minutes to send the game to a replay. Neither side will be happy with their displays, but it may have given Na Gaeil some belief in their own ability and they may go all the way next time despite their lack of firepower up front.
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Post by greengold35 on Oct 16, 2016 19:59:01 GMT
Any reports from this game, sounded bizzare enough, glenbeigh with 13 men for half an hour! I think there was about 17 mins left when GG were reduced to 13.
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Post by kerrygold on Oct 16, 2016 21:34:18 GMT
Very poor and forgettable junior final. Div 1 GG didn't deserve to win it and div 4 NG didn't serve to lose it.The black card fiasco raising it's head again. Darren O'Sullivan should have been double black carded in the minutes before goaling, the first for aggressively remonstrating with the ref and secondly for a body check. The application of the black card rule is an absolute farce at this stage. Very strange that the footballing intellect of a county player at this level cant ensure a worthwhile contribution to the game for the second year in a row.
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Post by decondd2 on Oct 16, 2016 22:05:26 GMT
In fairness, this was poor fare, with very little to get enthused about for the neutral.I expected GG after their near misses and with Div 1 experience to be far too good for the Tralee side; the opposite was the case particularly in the opening half and GG will be wondering how they ended up in front at half time 1-4 to 0-4 ahead. In this half, Na Gaeil had all the play thanks to Jack Barry at midfield and his brother Andrew at centre back and took the game to their opponents. Leading by 0-3 to nil, Na Gaeil hit the butt of an upright with the keeper beaten and should have had a green flag shortly afterwards. GG got back in the game through good work from their no 5 ( Jack Brosnan), and a general improvement all round. Darran slipped a goal when beating the advancing keeper to a through ball and they looked good at half time. Scores were at a premium all through the second half and GG imploded in a 3 minute spell when two of their forwards were red carded, justifiably so after one kicked an opponent and the other seemed to head butt his marker. Thrown a life line, Na Gaeil did everything possible not to win this game, kicking some aimless balls in to their forwards where at times they had no more than 2 men upfront! At 1-4 to 0-6 GG took on a new lease of life with Pa Kilkenny prominent and also Darran putting in some good work- they seemed to have secured the elusive title when forging 1-6 to 0-6 ahead but then Na Gaeil desperately threw men forward and secured 3 points in the dying minutes to send the game to a replay. Neither side will be happy with their displays, but it may have given Na Gaeil some belief in their own ability and they may go all the way next time despite their lack of firepower up front. Gutted as a Na Gaeil man not to have won. The lads lost the run of themselves altogether up front after the two red cards. The missed free after the second red was a huge turning point. Obviously biased here, but how did the Glenbeigh forward avoid a Red Card for the elbow to the head of the Na Gaeil corner back,at the start of the second half. From my view the ref didn't even give a yellow? Hopefully it's not a case of chance missed, like Mayo and Dublin.
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Post by diego on Oct 16, 2016 22:21:52 GMT
Very poor and forgettable junior final. Div 1 GG didn't deserve to win it and div 4 NG didn't serve to lose it.The black card fiasco raising it's head again. Darren O'Sullivan should have been double black carded in the minutes before goaling, the first for aggressively remonstrating with the ref and secondly for a body check. The application of the black card rule is an absolute farce at this stage. Very strange that the footballing intellect of a county player at this level cant ensure a worthwhile contribution to the game for the second year in a row. [/quote Think you're being a bit harsh on Darran there. That coming together before the goal was as much charging by Andrew Barry as a body check by Darran. Barry gave off the pass, Darran stood his ground, Barry made no effort to go around him, and they collided. Play on was fair enough I reckon. Apart from taking his goal well, he made some telling bursts in to Na Gaeil territory in the 2nd half when they were down to 13, helping to lift the siege when it was badly needed.
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Post by mossie on Oct 16, 2016 22:59:08 GMT
Where do Na Gaeil draw their players from? As a non-Tralee person, I'm not quite sure of how one would decide on the 'local club' in our capital town. I know the old certainties around geography have changed quite a bit but would be curious to know where would be considered their base. Oakpark, Rahonane and Shanakill traditionally. From St.Brendans church on the town side out as far as Listellick School. Then drawing in from the back of the racecourse around Ballinorig area (but not as far in as Rath Cemetary which is Mitchells Country along with Marian Park and the like). Also recently a lot of young Hurlers from Abbeydorney like to come in and play with the big ball with Na Gaeil. With Scoil Mhic Easmainn and Listellick so close a lot of kids who go to the schools regardless of where they live want to play with Na Gaeil due to friendships etc. Fantastic work being done at underage there for years, but it never really came together at senior until recently. Winning the Novice a few years back and then getting to the Junior Final against Kenmare shortly after was an achievement. Serious change of attitude this year and with only 1 loss in League and Championship, they will give Glenbeigh a rattle. Na Gaeil and Abbeydorney seem to have links alright. Listellick school has links with Abbeydorney for hurling and Na Gaeil seem go get lads from Abbeydorney for football now that Brick Rangers is long defunct. Great to see Na Gaeil so competitive at junior level
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Post by mossie on Oct 16, 2016 23:01:41 GMT
Oakpark was always Stacks territory. Ger OKeeffe was from Oakpark i think. Mikey Sheehy was born a Mitchells man but the family moved to Stacks territory when he was young. As far as i know Mikeys dad hailed from South Kerry but not certain William Kirby played under age with Na Gaeil before moving to Stacks I think? May even have played minor with Na Gaeil
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Post by decondd2 on Oct 17, 2016 6:37:01 GMT
Very poor and forgettable junior final. Div 1 GG didn't deserve to win it and div 4 NG didn't serve to lose it.The black card fiasco raising it's head again. Darren O'Sullivan should have been double black carded in the minutes before goaling, the first for aggressively remonstrating with the ref and secondly for a body check. The application of the black card rule is an absolute farce at this stage. Very strange that the footballing intellect of a county player at this level cant ensure a worthwhile contribution to the game for the second year in a row. [/quote Think you're being a bit harsh on Darran there. That coming together before the goal was as much charging by Andrew Barry as a body check by Darran. Barry gave off the pass, Darran stood his ground, Barry made no effort to go around him, and they collided. Play on was fair enough I reckon. Apart from taking his goal well, he made some telling bursts in to Na Gaeil territory in the 2nd half when they were down to 13, helping to lift the siege when it was badly needed. I agree with the body check. They were both intent on making a mark. Darren had just shoved Andrew after conceeding a free over near the sideline, and Andrew was showing Darren he wasn't going to be intimidated. Good to see from what we hope will be a Kerry Senior player in the future. As for the mouthing. He was extremely lucky to avoid a black card for his 10 second tirade at the referee over what was clearly a Na Gaeil free. Darren was very good when Glenbeigh were down to 13 but before that I though Eoghan Sheehy had an excellent game on him. Marked him tightly and didn't give away any frees. Unfortunately he went forward just before half time, and the wing backs failed to drop back to cover Darren. Sheehy lost the ball and Glenbeigh counter attacked and got the goal. 1 mistake in an otherwise brilliant game for Sheehy.
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Post by fatgrandad on Oct 18, 2016 8:49:24 GMT
First posting on here so please be gentle.
As a newcomer to Ireland and having moved to Glenbeigh, this was my first ever game of football. I decided to take a trip along to watch my new local team!
Although I could see that there were a lot of unforced errors from both sides, I thoroughly enjoyed the game, the passion of the crowd, and the way the tension ratcheted up towards the end. I couldn't comment on the sendings-off as I didn't really see what happened, but I was surprised that the ref didn't take any action when there were at least two other multi-player pitched battles in the game!
It's a bit bizarre that a team down by two players will feel disappointed not to have won, but I thought that the last period when Glenbeigh were down to 13 was the only time they looked in control, as they seemed to control the pace of the game.
I will be there for the replay.
I've got to ask at least one stupid question now. I have tried to understand the structure of the GAA setup and am mighty baffled. Glenbeigh are seemingly a "junior" team, yet are in Division 1, whereas their opponents were from several divisions lower. Dr Crokes won the senior club final yet are in the same league as Glenbeigh. And Dr Crokes' opponents in the senior final on Sunday seemed to be a combined team made up from several clubs! Now this may all make perfect sense to everyone else, but to a newcomer it is extremely confusing.
Is there a simple explanation or someplace I can go (polite answers requested) to understand all this?
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Post by hugh20 on Oct 21, 2016 11:39:03 GMT
Although Na Gaeil were extremely wasteful in the first half and it was baffling how they went into half time down 3 points, one would have to imagine if GG improve their discipline then they should take this title that has eluded them in the previous years.
I think there must be an element of complacency within this GG group. I know Na Gaeil are a good up and coming team but there is no way GG can compete 3 divisions above them in the league and struggle to beat them. I think GG should account for Na Gaeil with relative this time around.
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Post by tadgh10 on Oct 21, 2016 12:33:34 GMT
I would agree with you that I think glenbeigh will win the replay but I don't think complacency is the reason they didn't win last Sunday, I would think it is probably the opposite where they are going into these games full of fear and doubt no matter who are the opposition when it comes to winning this competition they seem to find a way to lose, I believe they will finally put this right in the replay
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Post by glengael on Nov 2, 2016 16:09:22 GMT
Well done to Glenbeigh /Glencar who won the replay as tadgh10 suggested they might. I think their next opponents are from Clare.
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Post by seasiders on Nov 2, 2016 16:25:47 GMT
Well done to Glenbeigh /Glencar who won the replay as tadgh10 suggested they might. I think their next opponents are from Clare. Yes well deserved victory, Glenbeigh got out of the traps early and blew away a very good young side who I'm sure will be there or thereabouts next year.
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Post by fatgrandad on Nov 18, 2016 22:48:36 GMT
So having won the Junior Premier Championship, Glenbeigh got thru to the Munster Junior Competition and were due to play the Waterford champions in the quarter-final. When the Waterford final ended in a draw, Glenbeigh were then given a walkover to the semi-final. Can anyone explain why the walkover happened? Was it simply because the Waterford teams ran out of time to complete their tournament?
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