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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2016 22:08:00 GMT
Was checking the TV planner there and spotted that TG4 will be showing the Kerry double header live next Sunday
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Post by hurlingman on Mar 3, 2016 22:26:10 GMT
Two Kerry lads were involved with the CIT freshers team that won the All-Ireland this evening against DCU. Johnny Buckley was wing back and Billy Lyons from causeway came on as a sub
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 4, 2016 11:30:53 GMT
Two Kerry lads were involved with the CIT freshers team that won the All-Ireland this evening against DCU. Johnny Buckley was wing back and Billy Lyons from causeway came on as a sub Ha I just came here to post the same thing!
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Post by hugh20 on Mar 4, 2016 12:34:06 GMT
Looking forward to the hurling on Sunday more so than the football. If Wexford hit top gear they should account for us but with the level of improvement and commitment of this team we are capable of getting a result. Best of luck to all involved.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2016 12:50:43 GMT
I wonder with Kerry hurling on the rise now, will all the good 17 and 18 year olds off the minor winning squads push on now and try and play Fitzgibbon cup hurling. That would really bring on the standard of the county team in 1b. I know they would be competing against A grade minor hurlers, but even making the Fitzgibbon squads would bring them on a tonne. County Board should start looking into scholarships etc in relation to this.
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Post by hurlingman on Mar 4, 2016 13:09:43 GMT
Two Kerry lads were involved with the CIT freshers team that won the All-Ireland this evening against DCU. Johnny Buckley was wing back and Billy Lyons from causeway came on as a sub Ha I just came here to post the same thing! Too slow I'm afraid
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Post by givehimaball on Mar 4, 2016 20:00:44 GMT
Two Kerry lads were involved with the CIT freshers team that won the All-Ireland this evening against DCU. Johnny Buckley was wing back and Billy Lyons from causeway came on as a sub Ha I just came here to post the same thing! Anyone with more knowledge know if many/any of the current Kerry squad played any third level college. When you consider how many lads from Kerry tend to play 3rd level football, the amount of Kerry folk who go to Munster 3rd levels, where hurling is strongest, you'd think it could be a very valuable development aid.
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 5, 2016 11:36:52 GMT
team captained by Daniel Collins of Kilmoyley lines out as follows: 1 Martin Stackpoole Lixnaw 2 Sean Weir Crotta O’Neills 3 Bryan Murphy Causeway 4 Keith Carmody Causeway 5 Daniel Collins (C) Kilmoyley 6 Tommy Casey Causeway 7 Tom Murnane Kilmoyley 8 Patrick Kelly Clarecastle 9 John Griffin Lixnaw 10 Shane Nolan Crotta O’Neills 11 Michael O’Leary Abbeydorney 12 Colum Harty Causeway 13 John Egan St Brendans 14 Mikey Boyle Ballyduff 15 Jack Goulding Ballyduff Fir Ionaid: 16 Aidan McCabe Kilmoyley 17 Brendan Brosnan Lixnaw 18 John Buckley Lixnaw 19 Mike Milner Dr Crokes 20 Jordan Conway Crotta O’Neills 21 Jason Diggins Causeway 22 Darren Dineen St Brendans 23 Dougie Fitzelle Kilmoyley 24 Philip Lucid Ballyheigue 25 James O’Connor Abbeydorney 26 Brendan O’Leary Abbeydorney Bainistíocht: Bainisteoir: Ciaran Carey (Patrickswell) Coach/Selector: Mark Foley (Adare) Treanálaí: Damien Ryall (Abbeydorney) Róghnoirí: James McCarthy (Kilmoyley), Michael Conway (Lixnaw)
Additional Players on Panel: Stephen Murphy Causeway Darragh Shanahan Lixnaw Paudie O’Connor Kilmoyley Jordon Brick Kilmoyley P J Keane Abbeydorney Gerard Stackpoole Lixnaw The Ballyduff pair, Paud Costelloe and Padraig Boyle, are rehabbing from injury
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 5, 2016 14:52:38 GMT
The 1891 Hurling Final
May 22nd, 2014 by Brendan O'Sullivan
The date - 28 February 1892, the venue - Clonturk Park, Drumcondra, Dublin, the occasion - the All-Ireland Final, the teams - Wexford and Kerry, the sport - hurling.
Yes, Kerry were in the All-Ireland Hurling final. The GAA was less than 8 years old, the county and All-Ireland championships even younger. Kenmare had been the first Kerry hurling champions in 1889, they were succeeded by Kilmoyley in 1890 and in May 1891, Kilmoyley lost their title to Ballyduff on the unusual score of 1-0 to 0-2.
Ballyduff went on to represent Kerry in the Munster championship, defeated Blackrock from Cork in the semi-final and met Treaty Stones from Limerick in the final. The Limerick team won by 1-2 to 1-1 but Ballyduff objected as, just before the final whistle, they scored an equalising point which wasn't allowed by the referee because, in his opinion, time was up. The GAA Central Executive ordered a replay which took place in Abbeyfeale on 31 January 1892. Ballyduff won comfortably by 2-4 to 0-1 and, when they arrived home, a band met the players and the village was en fete with bonfires and illuminations.
Ballyduff, as Munster champions, went straight into the All-Ireland final and their opponents were Crossabeg from Wexford. The game was played at Clonturk Park on 28 February 1892 and was the middle game in an extraordinary triple header. In the first game, scheduled for 11 o'clock in the morning, Young Irelanders of Dublin were victorious over Cavan Slashers in the All-Ireland football semi-final. After the Kerry-Wexford hurling final, Dublin took the field again for the All-Ireland final and defeated Clondrohid of Cork by 2-1 to 1-9. Dublin were the winners because a goal outweighed any number of points at the time, but the result was disputed by the Corkmen as they had scored a second goal which was disallowed by the referee.
Before the hurling final started, Kerry objected to the referee, Mr Larkin from Galway, probably as a consequence of a tempestuous challenge game played between Kerry and Galway one year earlier. Dick Tobin, the secretary of the GAA, was accepted as referee. A rule change since the Munster final also benefited Kerry and Ballyduff were able to call on players from Kilmoyley club. It was the last year when teams were 21-aside, Kerry wore grey jerseys with "Up Kerry" printed on them but played in their everyday trousers and bare feet. At half-time Kerry led by 0-2 to 0-1. The first score of the second half was a Kerry goal. "Both sides were playing with extraordinary determination, swiftness and all-round brilliancy" according to a contemporary account. With eight minutes to go, Wexford scored a goal and three minutes later they equalised. Wexford were on top and were awarded a free late in the game. From this, the ball went between the uprights but for Ballyduff, it was déjà vu with regard to late points. This one was disallowed as the referee had blown the final whistle as the free was taken.
Extra time was scheduled. It would seem that Wexford should have been the team with a grievance but, in fact, Kerry had to be persuaded to take part. Why were they reluctant to play? There are two separate reports on the match in the Kerry newspaper the Sentinel. The first states that the Kerry players thought that one of their points was actually a goal and that they had won the match. The second states they considered the Wexford goal to be illegal as the ball had gone through the Australian Rules-type posts for a point and been kicked back by a spectator before the goal was scored. But they eventually did line up in what turned out to be the only extra-time ever played in an All-Ireland final, on all other occasions there was a replay. Kerry scored a goal and a point in extra time and Wexford scored three points so Kerry were All-Ireland hurling champions.
Not surprisingly, the losers in both football and hurling finals objected at a Central Council meeting held later that Sunday. The Wexford objection over the disallowed point was overruled but Cork's objection over their disallowed goal was referred to a future meeting. Eventually, Dublin were declared champions and so, it is an interesting historical fact that Dublin won their first football All-Ireland on the same day and in the same park that Kerry won their hurling title. Yes, Kerry were All-Ireland hurling champions and won by playing hurling of the highest quality. Michael Cusack, founder of the GAA, is reported as saying to a Kerry friend, "I have never seen a finer exhibition of hurling in all my life. You should be proud of Kerry".
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 5, 2016 14:55:44 GMT
That 1891 hurling final is the only final to be decided by extra time.
1891 was the last year that a goal was worth 5 points and also the last year that each side had 21 players.
From 1892 the number of players was reduced to 17.
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Post by Chinatown on Mar 5, 2016 16:05:48 GMT
God would love to be down for the double header, hope the crowd pile in early to give the north Kerry lads a roar!!
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 6, 2016 10:18:24 GMT
On 28th February 1892 Kerry wore grey jerseys with "Up Kerry" printed on them but played in their everyday trousers and bare feet.
Hardy men back then!
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 6, 2016 19:12:43 GMT
I think Ciaran Carey should have put Michael Oleary on Andrew Shore from early on. Also he should have packed the defence and middle in the first half and make it harder for Wexford with the breeze.
That said, this was a big step up in class. John Egan found that out in the first half, he took the pass, rounded the keeper and as he was about to strike into an empty net, across comes a defender to effect a perfect block. Everything happens a bit quicker the higher you go up.
The final game v Offaly will be interesting as will the round robin series in Leinster when pitches are suited to hurling.
Dublin scored 3.06 without reply v Cork last night in a 15 minute spell in the first half. Cork well off the pace of the top teams now.
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Post by homerj on Mar 7, 2016 0:09:59 GMT
Disappointed with that. Never got going and everything that could have went wrong, did.
Two very bad goal misses at crucial times really killed us, the poor showing after half time when the wind was at our backs and a quick need to bridge the gap and then, what ever chance we had of getting a decent performance on, ended with the Red card.
The red card was the difference between a 8-10 point defeat and the mailing we got in my opinion, Wexford added about 1-8 after that and it killed the game.
Ref did Kerry no favours at all , sectors were 8-10 points better but the ref was worth another 7 or 8 to them and overall had a nightmare game. The red was as soft as they come. Not sure the second red was justified also.
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Post by hurlingman on Mar 7, 2016 10:03:44 GMT
Was always going to be a big step up this year and yesterday showed just that. The extra second you get at Div 2 and Christy Ring level you just don't get here. The fact that it looks like Laois will struggle to get a win from the rest of their games means it looks good at the moment for Kerry.
I'd still be confident that we can get some sort of a result against Offaly and that should be enough to avoid going back down.
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Post by homerj on Mar 7, 2016 11:59:36 GMT
Was always going to be a big step up this year and yesterday showed just that. The extra second you get at Div 2 and Christy Ring level you just don't get here. The fact that it looks like Laois will struggle to get a win from the rest of their games means it looks good at the moment for Kerry. I'd still be confident that we can get some sort of a result against Offaly and that should be enough to avoid going back down. we would have to play Laois in a playoff though wouldnt we, even if they finished on 0 and we had 2 points?
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 7, 2016 23:23:10 GMT
Disappointed with that. Never got going and everything that could have went wrong, did. Two very bad goal misses at crucial times really killed us, the poor showing after half time when the wind was at our backs and a quick need to bridge the gap and then, what ever chance we had of getting a decent performance on, ended with the Red card. The red card was the difference between a 8-10 point defeat and the mailing we got in my opinion, Wexford added about 1-8 after that and it killed the game. Ref did Kerry no favours at all , sectors were 8-10 points better but the ref was worth another 7 or 8 to them and overall had a nightmare game. The red was as soft as they come. Not sure the second red was justified also. I think about three of Wexfords early points came from Kerry players being whistled for over carrying. The ref was right on all three occasions. However, I hope that the same ref is appointed to ref KK as 7 steps is about the average that they consistenly get away with. Taking too many steps is endemic in hurling but if they are going to crack down on it then all refs must be so instructed.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2016 13:13:44 GMT
Was always going to be a big step up this year and yesterday showed just that. The extra second you get at Div 2 and Christy Ring level you just don't get here. The fact that it looks like Laois will struggle to get a win from the rest of their games means it looks good at the moment for Kerry. I'd still be confident that we can get some sort of a result against Offaly and that should be enough to avoid going back down. we would have to play Laois in a playoff though wouldnt we, even if they finished on 0 and we had 2 points? Ya the bottom two play off and the losers play the winners of 2A Its a stupid play off the bottom team should go down and the winners of 2A should be promoted Antrim didn't win a game in 1B two years ago and then beat Offaly in the play off a week after Offaly beating them in the last league game,Offaly had to play us then in the promotion/relegation play off its a poor system
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Post by superstar on Mar 8, 2016 15:19:30 GMT
we would have to play Laois in a playoff though wouldnt we, even if they finished on 0 and we had 2 points? Ya the bottom two play off and the losers play the winners of 2A Its a stupid play off the bottom team should go down and the winners of 2A should be promoted Antrim didn't win a game in 1B two years ago and then beat Offaly in the play off a week after Offaly beating them in the last league game,Offaly had to play us then in the promotion/relegation play off its a poor system did they not change that rule after last year i.e. winners of 2A go straight up, losers of 1B go straight down
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Post by southward on Mar 8, 2016 19:00:44 GMT
Disappointed with that. Never got going and everything that could have went wrong, did. Two very bad goal misses at crucial times really killed us, the poor showing after half time when the wind was at our backs and a quick need to bridge the gap and then, what ever chance we had of getting a decent performance on, ended with the Red card. The red card was the difference between a 8-10 point defeat and the mailing we got in my opinion, Wexford added about 1-8 after that and it killed the game. Ref did Kerry no favours at all , sectors were 8-10 points better but the ref was worth another 7 or 8 to them and overall had a nightmare game. The red was as soft as they come. Not sure the second red was justified also. I think about three of Wexfords early points came from Kerry players being whistled for over carrying. The ref was right on all three occasions. However, I hope that the same ref is appointed to ref KK as 7 steps is about the average that they consistenly get away with. Taking too many steps is endemic in hurling but if they are going to crack down on it then all refs must be so instructed. Which is fine except the Wexford lad took a rake of steps for the first, and killer, goal. At least that's my recollection of it anyway. Disappointing day for the hurlers. I fancied them to be closer to Wexford than that, to get a result even. Never got going, really. Handling was poor and Wexford were way sharper.
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 8, 2016 20:00:47 GMT
Jack Golden first touch is sublime.
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 12, 2016 21:02:50 GMT
I forgot all about KK c Cork on Setanta till about 5 mins to go from the end.
When i switched over Cork (wearing a blue jersey ..whats that all about De lorean) were five points up.
Then KK got a goal that looked dodge...did the KK hit the ball in with the hurley or throw it in?
KK then score a point straight after and its full on now.
A Cork defender gets the ball and decides to trying soloing through two KK backs... he loses it and the ball is belted into JJ Reid...he fetches gives a pass..recives a pass and bang a goal and KK are two up.
Cork come back and win a free which is pointed and then they score a great point from play to equalize.
Cody is prowling the line as the puck out is taken. Cork go on the attack and they work the ball to a loose player 35 yards from goal and he takes his time, picks his spot and drives it...... wide.
A Cork free in is not given and a KK player gets possession and sends a long high ball into the Cork keeper who is in acres of space. The keeper carefully eyes up who he will pick out with the pass... he strikes it straight to John Power who promptly puts it over the bar.
KK win by a point.
Cork are crestfallen.
Cork will be in the relegation playoff
They should have won this game.
KK dont know how to lose
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Post by delorean on Mar 12, 2016 21:45:03 GMT
When i switched over Cork (wearing a blue jersey ..whats that all about De lorean) were five points up. Hi Mick - it was in honour of the 1916 commemorations. We weren't always the blood & bandage apparently! www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/cork-hurlers-to-wear-blue-like-100-years-ago-for-1916-commemorations-379514.htmlIronically enough, in our Tipp-like jerseys it was a very Tipp-like way to lose to Kilkenny, but a heartening performance overall. A game we should have won for sure but in a mad way maybe it's no harm that we fell slightly short. Wishful thinking probably but it will emphasise the point that an even greater improvement on what we produced tonight is necessary and, realistically, we were heading towards that relegation playoff regardless. Kilkenny's efficiency, composure and class is a joy to behold when they get the slightest sniff of victory, a joy to behold but difficult to look at!
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 12, 2016 23:41:22 GMT
Cheers de lorean... Cork only won one hurling final between 1957 and 1960 and that was 1966 and some Cork people hold that they made a special effort seeing as twas the 50th anniversary of the 1916 rising...they beat KK. I cant see a repeat in 2016 though.
by the way do you agree with only 6 teams in division IA...it seems a bit ridiculous to have Clare and Limerick in IB. All the games in 1A are very compelling...well most anyway
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Post by delorean on Mar 13, 2016 9:38:37 GMT
Clare and Limerick are definitely top tier material but it's an awkward one I think. Even if they did have an eight team 1A they would still need to have a relegation/promotion system in place, so either one of those (or an existing 1A team) would end up in 1B on a regular basis anyway. That could make 1B even more predictable than it is at present. I suppose it's a bit lopsided because there are eight (normally) very good teams and then there's a bit of a gap to your Wexford's and Offaly's, who have fallen behind but hopefully they'll catch up again, Wexford seem to be on the right track despite a mediocre 2015.
I wouldn't be overly concerned about a the lack of competitiveness in 1B, both Limerick and Cork have won provincial titles coming from that division in the last three years and I think Dublin may have as well. Waterford won the entire league outright from 1B last year.
What kind of baffles me more is the quarter final pairings, I don't think you'd find the top division playing off with the second division in any other competition in any other sport, it just seems daft, but then it really stood to Waterford in their development last year, so maybe there's a method to their madness for once. It also guarantees your Clare's and Limerick's more competitive matches pre-Championship. What seems totally bizarre is the lack of consistency in the relegation playoff between the various divisions. In 1A it's a reasonably sensible match between the bottom two but the 1B playoff losers get another chance of redemption against the 2B champions. I just don't know how the same committee could have decided that was a good idea for one division but not for the other, and I think it's very unfair on the team trying to break out of 2A, winning their own league should be more than enough to ensure progress.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2016 20:59:13 GMT
Another tough day out today for the hurlers
And with Offaly winning,next week's game looks like it's going to be a even more difficult one as well
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Post by thesquareball on Mar 14, 2016 13:03:47 GMT
can t understand kerry hurling management tolerating players on panel also playing soccer,are they serious or what,it shows a serious lack of judgement on all party s concered
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Post by lár na páirce on Mar 14, 2016 13:19:27 GMT
can t understand kerry hurling management tolerating players on panel also playing soccer,are they serious or what,it shows a serious lack of judgement on all party s concered Doubt that is true! What local soccer game featured senior hurlers?
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Post by thesquareball on Mar 14, 2016 13:26:25 GMT
look up last weeks kerry s eye
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Post by lár na páirce on Mar 14, 2016 13:52:00 GMT
look up last weeks kerry s eye If it's true just spill the beans
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