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Post by Mickmack on Sept 30, 2015 21:29:58 GMT
Kevin McStay has described his 18 years on The Sunday Game as a "special time in my life" - and defended RTÉ's flagship Sunday night highlights show against accusations that it was too much of an agenda-setter for the GAA.
The Mayo forward-turned-pundit is departing the Montrose studios - as well as these pages of The Herald, where his widely-read column appeared for eight championships - to become joint-manager of Roscommon.
During his time in RTÉ, The Sunday Game's role in highlighting disciplinary flashpoints elicited mixed opinion - with affected counties usually loudest in their criticism.
But McStay insisted that "the standard of editorial critique on The Sunday Game has been beyond reproach in the 18 years. I can say that, straight out. It has been outstanding."
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He added: "It's a huge programme - half a million people watch it on a regular basis, I think. Of course it's going to set the agenda. Like, our view always on a Monday or Tuesday was did something come out at the weekend that we didn't get? That would be the measure."
However, any issues highlighted had to be "legitimate and correct and proper." While certain pundits may have aired "strong opinions", the editorial meetings were always conducted "without fear or favour" and there was "never a sense" of going after a player or incident.
McStay paid tribute to various RTÉ personnel who drove the show during his time, name-checking Paul Byrnes, Colm McGee, Rory O'Neill, Bill Lalor, Maurice Reidy, presenters Michael Lyster and Des Cahill.
And he had high praise for Ciarán Whelan, describing the former Dublin midfielder and fellow Herald columnist as "the best football analyst - and also my favourite one".
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Post by southward on Oct 1, 2015 7:36:17 GMT
Kevin McStay has described his 18 years on The Sunday Game as a "special time in my life" - and defended RTÉ's flagship Sunday night highlights show against accusations that it was too much of an agenda-setter for the GAA. The Mayo forward-turned-pundit is departing the Montrose studios - as well as these pages of The Herald, where his widely-read column appeared for eight championships - to become joint-manager of Roscommon. During his time in RTÉ, The Sunday Game's role in highlighting disciplinary flashpoints elicited mixed opinion - with affected counties usually loudest in their criticism. But McStay insisted that "the standard of editorial critique on The Sunday Game has been beyond reproach in the 18 years. I can say that, straight out. It has been outstanding." Measure He added: "It's a huge programme - half a million people watch it on a regular basis, I think. Of course it's going to set the agenda. Like, our view always on a Monday or Tuesday was did something come out at the weekend that we didn't get? That would be the measure." However, any issues highlighted had to be "legitimate and correct and proper." While certain pundits may have aired "strong opinions", the editorial meetings were always conducted "without fear or favour" and there was "never a sense" of going after a player or incident.McStay paid tribute to various RTÉ personnel who drove the show during his time, name-checking Paul Byrnes, Colm McGee, Rory O'Neill, Bill Lalor, Maurice Reidy, presenters Michael Lyster and Des Cahill. And he had high praise for Ciarán Whelan, describing the former Dublin midfielder and fellow Herald columnist as "the best football analyst - and also my favourite one". Yeah, right Kevin. |
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Post by Dermot on Oct 1, 2015 8:46:55 GMT
However, any issues highlighted had to be "legitimate and correct and proper." While certain pundits may have aired "strong opinions", the editorial meetings were always conducted "without fear or favour" and there was "never a sense" of going after a player or incident. What a load of absolute sh1te that is !! |
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Post by falveyb2k on Oct 1, 2015 17:05:11 GMT
I always remember a gmae between Cavan and Wicklow in 2010 when the highlights were shown. A Cavan player was sent off and promptly went over and shoved the referee on his way off. Was it remarked on by any pundit afterwards? Not one single word about it.
The standard of editorial critique was definitely not beyond reproach that night. What's worse is that the CCC take their lead from the pundits instead of watching all the games and identifying instances like this themselves. The last thing you want from the guys setting the disciplinary standards is following others opinions like sheep
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Post by southward on Oct 1, 2015 17:11:35 GMT
I always remember a gmae between Cavan and Wicklow in 2010 when the highlights were shown. A Cavan player was sent off and promptly went over and shoved the referee on his way off. Was it remarked on by any pundit afterwards? Not one single word about it. The standard of editorial critique was definitely not beyond reproach that night. What's worse is that the CCC take their lead from the pundits instead of watching all the games and identifying instances like this themselves. The last thing you want from the guys setting the disciplinary standards is following others opinions like sheep I remember that one. And wasn't it the same night that Tomás got fingered for a suspension when TSG made a song and dance over some incident that hadn't occurred to anyone beforehand. |
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Post by ballynamona on Oct 1, 2015 17:24:15 GMT
Says a lot if he thinks Whelan is the best football analyst. He's not the worst, but far from the best.
Curry McStay has gone out of his way to go after players. Remember he wanted Paul Geaney to get a back card against Cork the first day?
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Post by kerrygold on Oct 1, 2015 18:17:24 GMT
A laughable piece by McStay. My question, what is going to replace the income from the media work? Ten years ago each appearance on TSG was worth €1,400. I don't know what they are paid today. The piece on the Herald must be worth a few bob also.
The mileage potential from Roscommon town to the Hyde wouldn't be all that great! You'd hardly have time to even eat a bag of Curry chips while in transit.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2015 18:42:39 GMT
At least he admits tsg does try and drive the agenda.
Agendas by their nature are subjective.
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Oct 1, 2015 18:45:34 GMT
Good wind-up Mick!  |
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 1, 2015 18:55:04 GMT
He comes across as very self important and arrogant
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 1, 2015 19:08:00 GMT
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Oct 1, 2015 19:12:22 GMT
Fair enough, I couldn't believe McStay would have said that, apologies Mick. The comment about Whelan is clearly a wind-up by McStay. Whelan called McStay out several times for things he said, most especially the disgraceful and slanderous stuff he said about Philly McMahon re-the alleged head-butt. |
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 1, 2015 19:34:48 GMT
accepted........no problem......I think Philly McMahon was innocent of the head butt allegation. I saw a video online somewhere from another angle of OShea grabbing McMahons and pulling him towards himself. (Unless twas photoshopped...you just cant be sure of anything anymore)  |
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Oct 1, 2015 20:19:30 GMT
The words "my" and "hole" come to mind
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Post by wayupnorth on Oct 1, 2015 22:57:18 GMT
No fear certainly ... not so sure about the favour
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Post by sullyschoice on Oct 1, 2015 23:13:32 GMT
A laughable piece by McStay. My question, what is going to replace the income from the media work? Ten years ago each appearance on TSG was worth €1,400. I don't know what they are paid today. The piece on the Herald must be worth a few bob also. The mileage potential from Roscommon town to the Hyde wouldn't be all that great! You'd hardly have time to even eat a bag of Curry chips while in transit. My information suggests that they didnt get thpat much for each appearance...closer to €500 and a night in the Montrose |
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Post by fitz on Oct 1, 2015 23:37:35 GMT
A laughable piece by McStay. My question, what is going to replace the income from the media work? Ten years ago each appearance on TSG was worth €1,400. I don't know what they are paid today. The piece on the Herald must be worth a few bob also. The mileage potential from Roscommon town to the Hyde wouldn't be all that great! You'd hardly have time to even eat a bag of Curry chips while in transit. My information suggests that they didnt get thpat much for each appearance...closer to €500 and a night in the Montrose You're both right, I'm the agent for all them boys. 900 a man. Easy money wha? |
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Post by kerrygold on Oct 2, 2015 6:55:34 GMT
A laughable piece by McStay. My question, what is going to replace the income from the media work? Ten years ago each appearance on TSG was worth €1,400. I don't know what they are paid today. The piece on the Herald must be worth a few bob also. The mileage potential from Roscommon town to the Hyde wouldn't be all that great! You'd hardly have time to even eat a bag of Curry chips while in transit. My information suggests that they didnt get thpat much for each appearance...closer to €500 and a night in the Montrose Do the maths on that one, 500 less tax, no one is going to give their full day on a Sunday in the media for that. You think box office comical Ali Joe is coming down from Derry for that. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2015 8:56:20 GMT
Sunday game lost all credibility for me this year in how they handled the Tiernan McCann incident versus how they handled the McMahon incident. Whelan was calling for a public apology from McCann and really went to town on him. Then, McMahon does a far more despicable act in gouging a player and it's pretty much glossed over by the entire panel. If we are to take the analysis on the Sunday Game seriously then they need to have pundits on it who are partisan. Another thing as well, I wish they'd stop stating that certain players like to 'play on the edge'. There is a big difference between playing on the edge and just being a thug!
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Post by Jigz84 on Oct 2, 2015 10:44:52 GMT
Sunday game lost all credibility for me this year in how they handled the Tiernan McCann incident versus how they handled the McMahon incident. Whelan was calling for a public apology from McCann and really went to town on him. Then, McMahon does a far more despicable act in gouging a player and it's pretty much glossed over by the entire panel. If we are to take the analysis on the Sunday Game seriously then they need to have pundits on it who are partisan. Another thing as well, I wish they'd stop stating that certain players like to 'play on the edge'. There is a big difference between playing on the edge and just being a thug! I'm just amazed it's taken this long I've had no time for or interest in the muck since 2010! |
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Post by Jigz84 on Oct 2, 2015 10:45:40 GMT
So will there be more Cake and less Curry on Sunday nights??!!  |
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Post by kerrygold on Oct 2, 2015 10:48:01 GMT
So will there be more Cake and less Curry on Sunday nights??!! There'll still be plenty of scour though............ |
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Oct 2, 2015 12:30:55 GMT
And he had high praise for Ciarán Whelan, describing the former Dublin midfielder and fellow Herald columnist as "the best football analyst - and also my favourite one". Pass me the sick bucket !  |
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Oct 2, 2015 13:02:20 GMT
McStay is an a.rsehole. A low-key, comes across as nice, very thorough professional, seems so thoughtful and considered and balanced but after many years and several slips of the mask quite clearly-a.rsehole.
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Post by kerrygold on Oct 2, 2015 14:24:20 GMT
That programme lost creditability years ago. God be with the days when Enda Colleran and Liz Howard where the anchors on the programme.
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 2, 2015 19:28:43 GMT
If you were to give TSG a name from a film what would it be.....
Clueless
Cruel Intentions
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Post by kerrygold on Oct 2, 2015 20:00:26 GMT
Dirty Harrys and the Umbrella Man.
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 2, 2015 20:22:33 GMT
The Crying Game
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2015 20:38:50 GMT
Dumb and dumber.
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Post by sullyschoice on Oct 2, 2015 21:26:10 GMT
My information suggests that they didnt get thpat much for each appearance...closer to €500 and a night in the Montrose Do the maths on that one, 500 less tax, no one is going to give their full day on a Sunday in the media for that. You think box office comical Ali Joe is coming down from Derry for that. About 5 years ago they were getting what I stated. I cant imagine they got a 200% increase since then. |
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