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Post by Jo90 on Aug 25, 2015 9:02:25 GMT
A Kerry win and O'Brien and Kealy will get ones.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 25, 2015 9:09:48 GMT
Kealy might be in line for an All Star. Enright if he has an OK final might be a shoe in. Paul Murphy close too if we win the final. I don't see any of our HB line getting in.Moran is a certainty but will they give Kerry two MF berths? Not if we don't win the AIF I'd say. D Walsh and maybe JOD too. Killian Young has been hugely reliable and consistently good at wing back for the past two seasons. Well the All Stars are (supposed to be) about one season. Harte, Keegan, McCaffrey and Cian O'Sullivan ahead of our lads I would guess. |
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Post by G_S_J on Aug 25, 2015 9:31:12 GMT
Enright, ha a good chance of an All-Star, he has received a lot of attention in the press, most of it good!
All-Star's are generally picked on semi and final performances. At the moment, I reckon, Kealy, Enright, Maher, D Walsh and if he starts and has a good final P Geaney, will certainly be in the reckoning along with JOD.
All depending of course on the final, a win and a loss could be the difference in having seven or two All-Stars, which is fair enough. The best teams are defined by finals, so should the players.
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 25, 2015 9:33:39 GMT
Killian Young has been hugely reliable and consistently good at wing back for the past two seasons. . Harte, Keegan, McCaffrey and Cian O'Sullivan ahead of our lads I would guess. That would still qualify him for contention for consideration for 2015 the fact that he was consistently good during 2014 & 2015. The dubs have played no one yet this year so are not ahead of anyone in my opinion at the moment. Indeed their window may even be limited to one real game in 2015! |
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Post by G_S_J on Aug 25, 2015 9:59:21 GMT
How anyone could give a Dublin player an All-Star coming through Leinster and Fermanagh is beyond me. The Dubs start earning All-Stars at the weekend. Shur how many All-Stars would Kerry be in the reckoning for if we played of Division 3 and 4 teams in every round of the championship thus far?
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Aug 25, 2015 10:12:01 GMT
Kealy might be in line for an All Star. Enright if he has an OK final might be a shoe in. Paul Murphy close too if we win the final. I don't see any of our HB line getting in.Moran is a certainty but will they give Kerry two MF berths? Not if we don't win the AIF I'd say. D Walsh and maybe JOD too. Killian Young has been hugely reliable and consistently good at wing back for the past two seasons. Young seems to have got a new lease of life since EF took over. As does Maher, and of course Donaghy last year at least. That's the mark of a seriously good coach, to mix it up as much as he does and get the best of more players. It's never just about having to have new talent. Mayo have shown it with AOS so far this summer |
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Post by homerj on Aug 25, 2015 10:53:07 GMT
Enright Moran Maher D Walsh It gets interesting after that Kealy might be in line for an All Star. Enright if he has an OK final might be a shoe in. Paul Murphy close too if we win the final. I don't see any of our HB line getting in. Moran is a certainty but will they give Kerry two MF berths? Not if we don't win the AIF I'd say. D Walsh and maybe JOD too. was thinking about Keely but 5 goals in the first 2 games could scupper that. the thing is though, so far in Croke Park he has kept a clean sheet and was excellent the last day so thats what matters really. he'd need to have an excellent final again though like he had in 2011. |
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Post by kerryexile on Aug 25, 2015 11:59:48 GMT
This rubbish about all stars should stop immediately. This is exactly the stupidity that we would love to see Dublin fans deluding themselves with before an All-Ireland final. There is a serious game to be won and if we don’t win that it will be another one we let slip away.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 25, 2015 12:19:20 GMT
This rubbish about all stars should stop immediately. This is exactly the stupidity that we would love to see Dublin fans deluding themselves with before an All-Ireland final. There is a serious game to be won and if we don’t win that it will be another one we let slip away. I know what you are saying but I don't see anyone getting carried away here. Personally I am very worried about the final. A lot of these comments are predicated on us winning. I think the only ones we are confident about are Moran and D Walsh. That isn't too optimistic by any stretch. |
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Post by buck02 on Aug 25, 2015 12:23:47 GMT
This rubbish about all stars should stop immediately. This is exactly the stupidity that we would love to see Dublin fans deluding themselves with before an All-Ireland final. There is a serious game to be won and if we don’t win that it will be another one we let slip away. Exactly. Talk about the All Stars in October. |
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Post by shaggy04 on Aug 25, 2015 12:24:33 GMT
Ahem...There is and it's called the SeasonTicket. And you only have to go to 60% of the games. only a few hundred have season tickets. there was 5,000 plus at the 1/4 final, about 10,000+ yesterday. we will have 15,000-20,000 looking for tickets for the final. There was 3 or 4 hundred freezing their football s off at the mcgrath cup back in January |
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Post by mayo4sam on Aug 25, 2015 13:03:41 GMT
shaggy04, you are spot on, the genuine supporters will have their tickets through the season ticket. Mayo have 5000 season tickets, Mayo and Dublin are the only counties to have fulfilled their quota. Let them get a season ticket and be guaranteed of a final ticket.
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Post by Jigz84 on Aug 25, 2015 14:42:24 GMT
Ahem...There is and it's called the SeasonTicket. And you only have to go to 60% of the games. [/quote ]only a few hundred have season tickets. there was 5,000 plus at the 1/4 final, about 10,000+ yesterday. we will have 15,000-20,000 looking for tickets for the final. There are about 2500 Kerry Season Ticket Holders. |
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Post by G_S_J on Aug 25, 2015 15:47:10 GMT
This rubbish about all stars should stop immediately. This is exactly the stupidity that we would love to see Dublin fans deluding themselves with before an All-Ireland final. There is a serious game to be won and if we don’t win that it will be another one we let slip away. It's a bit of craic, we're at work and board. |
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Post by ballybunion on Aug 25, 2015 16:13:34 GMT
I think this All Stars thing should stop as well,its not the time.I think we had something similar last year pre the final and I think Control you rightfully deleted it.
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Post by fitz on Aug 25, 2015 16:18:32 GMT
This rubbish about all stars should stop immediately. This is exactly the stupidity that we would love to see Dublin fans deluding themselves with before an All-Ireland final. There is a serious game to be won and if we don’t win that it will be another one we let slip away. I know what you are saying but I don't see anyone getting carried away here. Personally I am very worried about the final. A lot of these comments are predicated on us winning. I think the only ones we are confident about are Moran and D Walsh. That isn't too optimistic by any stretch. I really hope Donnacha gets one this year. As for the final I'm not overly worried. I'm not saying we'll definitely win. But, we've had a perfect preparation against different styled opposition and been well tested in some awful conditions. This team is to my mind considerably strong than last year. Have Mayo improved as much? Have Dublin improved much since 2013?. Sunday will give some answers. The direct running through the middle is of course the worry - but it has always been the worry. A number of the main problems we encountered on Sunday, as in goal threats came from turnovers, so we got out of shape with our shape. What I specifically mean is when Anthony spilled the ball Tierney picked it up with no man in sight to cover him. Bomber highlighted this in Indo yesterday, the great risk with lateral passing, do we not have the scars and the soreness of them still? Maybe I'm being harsh on Shane, need to review the whole game - how did folks feel he did? going into the game I'd say he was in great position for All Star. I think it will take a hell of a performance to beat us - that is of course within both Mayo and Dublin's capability, but we're in a nice place now. |
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Post by shaggy04 on Aug 25, 2015 16:19:39 GMT
shaggy04, you are spot on, the genuine supporters will have their tickets through the season ticket. Mayo have 5000 season tickets, Mayo and Dublin are the only counties to have fulfilled their quota. Let them get a season ticket and be guaranteed of a final ticket. Is it true tickets are scarce for the semi final next Sunday |
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Post by ballynamona on Aug 25, 2015 16:23:46 GMT
I know what you are saying but I don't see anyone getting carried away here. Personally I am very worried about the final. A lot of these comments are predicated on us winning. I think the only ones we are confident about are Moran and D Walsh. That isn't too optimistic by any stretch. I really hope Donnacha gets one this year. As for the final I'm not overly worried. I'm not saying we'll definitely win. But, we've had a perfect preparation against different styled opposition and been well tested in some awful conditions. This team is to my mind considerably strong than last year. Have Mayo improved as much? Have Dublin improved much since 2013?. Sunday will give some answers. The direct running through the middle is of course the worry - but it has always been the worry. A number of the main problems we encountered on Sunday, as in goal threats came from turnovers, so we got out of shape with our shape. What I specifically mean is when Anthony spilled the ball Tierney picked it up with no man in sight to cover him. Bomber highlighted this in Indo yesterday, the great risk with lateral passing, do we not have the scars and the soreness of them still? Maybe I'm being harsh on Shane, need to review the whole game - how did folks feel he did? going into the game I'd say he was in great position for All Star. I think it will take a hell of a performance to beat us - that is of course within both Mayo and Dublin's capability, but we're in a nice place now. I feel that Dublin are not as wide open at the back as they were. They are severely chastened after Donegal last year. If they do overcome Mayo they will have had their serious test. The Dubs will take serious beating. Mayo would take serious beating too, but I would probably be more confident of Eamonn devising a plan for them. If Mayo do win the AI they will do it the hard way. |
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Post by rockie36 on Aug 25, 2015 16:48:19 GMT
Regarding the upcoming All-Ireland Final versus Dublin or Mayo...I cannot understand why people think we have to improve an awful lot to beat either of them.
We have not yet hit our best form and if you are from Kerry...you know that this is all geared to flower once the Rose of Tralee has been announced...
Last time we met Dublin in the 2013 championship semi final we had an epic encounter....we should have won that game but when the management went to the bench....there was nothing there that could galvanise or romp home....now we have a better 15 starting and a great bench to work with...the team selection is the management problem but they have a nice challenge....
Last time we met Mayo in the 2014 championship semi final we had another epic encounter....we learned so much from that game...and our bench improved things when introduced...we have three extra players in that squad from last year...Gooch, Tommy Walsh and Paul Galvin....this has to be a stronger squad.
Add in the fact that all guys now have one all-ireland medal under their belt so the fear of never winning one is gone....the hunger for winning another is massive.
I am not foolish enough to think that both Dublin and Mayo haven't improved...but we don't have to beat both of them....only one...and we are capable of that.
I fancy Mayo to beat Dublin but there will not be much in it.....
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 25, 2015 16:53:26 GMT
This rubbish about all stars should stop immediately. This is exactly the stupidity that we would love to see Dublin fans deluding themselves with before an All-Ireland final. There is a serious game to be won and if we don’t win that it will be another one we let slip away. It's a bit of craic, we're at work and board. Also we don't know who we are facing so there isn't as much to talk about on this thread... yet, |
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Post by G_S_J on Aug 25, 2015 17:34:54 GMT
I think this All Stars thing should stop as well,its not the time.I think we had something similar last year pre the final and I think Control you rightfully deleted it.[/quotem] I better leave off flogging those 2 in a row t-shirts I've just printed off so. |
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Post by donegalman on Aug 25, 2015 18:01:30 GMT
In my view, I can see Kerry improving a lot in the next 3 weeks, partially because they always do before a final and partially because there is room for improvement, and necessity to improve. Dublin would be a better opponent for kerry imo, but either mayo or dublin would be a serious test. The converse is the case of course for either mayo or dublin.
I think also that chat of all stars is only a bit of craic, and actually mean very little when they are handed out., there always is disappointment and injustice after they are announced. Monaghan will get zero, as they were the worst ulster champions I remember. Tyrone may get 2. Fermanagh might get a token 1. Galway likewise. The loser of Dublin/mayo will get 2, then the all ireland runner up will get 3 and the winners 6. More than likely anyhow.
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Post by wayupnorth on Aug 25, 2015 20:21:11 GMT
Focus on the final and never mind the All Stars until October and we're griping about how few Kerry players ( anything less than 15) the "Dublin media" have picked. In truth the squad rotation policy has probably diminished the number of all stars as fewer individuals will have had a chance to shine across several matches.
But if it keeps Sam in the Kingdom ... yerra!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2015 20:24:04 GMT
Kerry have a lot of improving to do. To concede the amount of goal chances they did on Sunday, 6 by my reckoning is unacceptable.
Dublin and mayo have both scored plenty of goals against us in the last few years. We do not look any better equipped to stop them this time.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Aug 25, 2015 20:30:40 GMT
Hey you lot, quit this beating around the bush and be honest for once in your lives, who would we most like to beat?
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 25, 2015 20:43:36 GMT
Hey you lot, quit this beating around the bush and be honest for once in your lives, who would we most like to beat? beating Dublin would add a few years to my life |
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Post by Joxer on Aug 25, 2015 20:44:25 GMT
Seen as you ask Nallythefireside, Dublin....
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 25, 2015 20:59:47 GMT
Tyrone really made a hames of their chance last Sunday. They won the first three balls and could have had a goal and a point within two mins. The next kickout by Kealy was won by Tyrone again and they kicked wide. Then inexplicably they withdraw and allowed Kealy kick short and the ball would up with a point by JB. Marc got his hand to the next kickout, fed Colm..to Buckley and its two points each.
They had two clear goal chances but lacked the presence of mind or composure to slot home or lay off to a better placed colleague.
They left about 6 points behind them that Mayo or Dublin would have taken from play, frees and 45s..
They got no soft free for "falling down with the ball" but Mayo or Dublin may get those in the final as Deggan was determined not to be made of a fool of by simulation like poor ould Marty Duffy was. Imagine how Marty felt. Put yourself in Deegans shoes.
The Tyrone keeper gift wrapped the game for Kerry just after half time with a few dreadful kickouts and Kerry stole into 3 or 4 point lead. Cluxton wont do that if its Dublin we meet.
Will Mayo OR Dublin concede Kerry possession from their own kickout. Harte was crazy to do this.
Having the game won Kerry then proceeded to carelessly lose possession with 15 to go about 40 yards from goal. Shane took one for the team to stop a goal and was luckly to avoid a black card. The second gift led to the penalty and we were lucky enough not to concede a second peno.
Kerry have ruthlessly exposed failings in Tipp, Cork, Kildare and Tyrone but what if Mayo or Dublin aint so generous in the final.
Kerry failed to force a save from the Tyrone keeper yet they could and should have had conceded 4 goals themselves.
Kerry could have been hammered last sunday by a more ruthless foe.
This is eerily like 2011 when Kerry got into the final via the easy side by beating Limerick and a Mayo team starting out on their development..........
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Post by wayupnorth on Aug 25, 2015 21:07:36 GMT
Hey you lot, quit this beating around the bush and be honest for once in your lives, who would we most like to beat? Already said Dublin. |
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 25, 2015 21:09:54 GMT
On the plus side from Sunday's contest, Kerry decimated Tyrone's blanket defence, getting all their scores in the inside scoring pockets and scoring 18 points.
If Kerry score 18 points in the final they won't lose the game, however they may have to become much more defensively minded and that scoring ratio could drop significantly.
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