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Post by Dermot on Aug 11, 2015 16:32:13 GMT
As regards the sledging, spitting, etc we are muddying the waters here. No team is perfect but there is a line that shouldn't be crossed and Kerry didn't lead us towards it. By not taking responsibility with remedial action, then management is approving of it and that is a big disappointment. Young men playing a game of such intensity need leadership and bannisters; they are being failed with the inevitable consequences. What happened v Tipperary U21 was a disgrace and they wouldn't be sensitive or drama queens. You seem very sure of what happened .. Please enlighten me ?
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Post by Ballyfireside on Aug 11, 2015 17:28:42 GMT
It was mentioned by quiet a few who attended and the account is consistent and they are credible GAA folk, some are actually neutral. It would be very unsporting to accuse in the wrong but sports are sports. Why would fells used to hurling would refuse commiseration by their victors?
Football has got cynical and hurling hasn't and this needs to be addressed.
It is a contact sport but there are lines that cannot be crossed and if they are then we are all on a hiding to nothing, well apart from demeaning our great game.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Aug 11, 2015 18:54:17 GMT
It was mentioned by quiet a few who attended and the account is consistent and they are credible GAA folk, some are actually neutral. It would be very unsporting to accuse in the wrong but sports are sports. Why would fells used to hurling would refuse commiseration by their victors? Football has got cynical and hurling hasn't and this needs to be addressed. It is a contact sport but there are lines that cannot be crossed and if they are then we are all on a hiding to nothing, well apart from demeaning our great game. I think hurling has got every bit as cynical it's just that it's not highlighted. The pundits on the Sunday game are more cheerleaders for the sport than anything else. Two lads stabbing each other in the ribs with the Hurley butts is just a bit of 'laying down a marker'. In football they would be castigated as thugs. Anyway back to the point in hand. People need to get over the perceived Tyrone diving etc. If players are leaving the hand in etc or borderline tackling then the opposition are going to make the most of it. It's called being smart. If you take a ball into contact and know your going to be fouled it's called playing for the free. Still doesn't mean it's not a free. Some of the incidents on Saturday were bad. But, Cavanagh couldn't have done his dying swam act I'd McManus didn't him on the way past. There was no need for it. McCann alright looks bad but we have a few players that went to ground easily enough in the past. I think what gets under people's skin is that it's so prevalent with Tyrone that it's seems a tactic or at least not condemned by the sideline. Hopefully we can get back to discussing the match. Would love to see Aidan do a job on Cavanagh- purely for redemption for 08. Was the one game where Aidan wasn't brilliant in an All Ireland Final. Wasn't helped by the sideline either that day.
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Post by seamo on Aug 11, 2015 19:08:29 GMT
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Post by fitz on Aug 11, 2015 19:24:37 GMT
Jaysis I watched the Sunday Game and it was comical. Firstly the funny irony of Whelan's point that McCann should come out be open and honest, I made a mistake and then brush it under the carpet. A strange slant on that phrase .. Sean Cavanagh got a sly dig from Finlay alright as he was on his knees. Dermot - he is a great player, one of the finest in last 20 years, but the little dint McManus gave him walking to take a free that saw him fall on the ground was farcical. Really bad. Fitzwop, I honestly dont see it quite like that - Finley hit him two punches to the head .. one a rabbit punch .. thats not good... As regards McManus elbow to the ribs .. how can you or anyone know how hard that was .. looked hard enough to me ...Would James O'Donaghue not have went down in those cercumstances ? How Kieran Hughes was left on the pitch is beyond me, he would appear in the melee, throw a lad off and then snake away hoping to avoid detection, half attempted roundhouse kick on the ball too at one stage. He lost it completely. McCann not just for the hair assault, was bananas blindly running in and grabbing lads rolling his head about, it looked to me like he was hoping someone would clock him. I can only describe his movement of a something like a lad in the horrors of cider in a dark room. It was crazy stuff. Yeah, very disappointing to see his antics at the end .. was jumping around like a rag doll .. it looked so weird .. Hopefully he wont be at that sh1te again because he's a fine player .. just needs to catch himself on a bit from now on!! Sorry Dermo, I agree Tyrone are not the only ones responsible but there is a consistent trend across minor, club, U21 and Senior that have seen Tyrone teams involved in scenes/incidents many times over the last 10 years that no other county shares. The U21 final this year with Tipperary refusing to let Tyrone representation into their dressing room afterwards is something I've never heard of before at inter-county level. I don't believe it was down to Tipp just being sore losers. Yes it is a GAA problem, but I don't understand why people would choose to pick on Tyrone, if the evidence of these issues was in equality across all 32 counties. Why do you think Tyrone are the sole focus now from this latest match? In all honesty, no one knows what actually happened in the Minot or U21 matches earlier in the year yet a lot of people seem to be outraged at Tyrones behaviour .. With all due respect Fitzwop, how can you or anyone else for that matter slate Tyrone for something which you have "ENTIRELY" no proof of ? Of course we have gamesmanship but so do all the other top 8 teams .. Kerry are no shrinking violets in this arena either .. just look at the 71 & 72 minutes of last years All Ireland Final.. I believe since 2003 there has been an anti-tyrone backlash which has steadily gotten worse and is now just a matter of all the sheep following suit .. This has been enhanced by M Hartes relationship with RTE I presume.. I respect your view Fitzwop as you come accross fairly balanced so Im a little disappointing that you have joined the bandwagon so to speak .. I guess that means we (Tyrone) really should be trying to nip this in the bud as it will also undoubtedly have an adverse affect on future games, just as it did with the reffing of the 2013 semi with Mayo.. Having "SOMEONE" talking to RTE would surely help .. then again maybe not. I have read may of the pundits articles on the match and the one that stuck out the most was our friend Joe Brolly who stated that on the 53 minute Sean Cavanagh lay down wasting time for minutes .. Well he would, he'd just been rabbit punched in the back of the head and then punched again in the Jaw .. I'd want a wee lay down too lol ... Then Brolly complained about Colm Cavanagh laying down on the 70th minute .. No mention of the FACT that he'd just been taken out of it by K Hughes ..... STupit & UNTRUE allegations by Brolly .. the worst of it is that even though the video evidence is clearly there to prove him 100% wrong, he can spout whet he likes with no comeback .... just like the others on the bandwagon All I ask for is balance and equality when reporting on or discussing these things .. Tyrone arent getting that and havent been for a good few years now.... I think if people really tried to think for themselves they would see this.. Wouldnt it be great to be able to talk about the game !! I take your points Dermot. I do think I'm mostly balanced, get a bit passionate at times, but try to be conscious of how I write and do a couple of rechecks before posting if the material in particular will generate a lot of potentially different impassioned opinions. I made a comment before, in summary asking a poster(Kerry) to go outside, give himself a kick up the backside and come back in more positive and objective. It was tongue in cheek and meant to kind of say there is a load of positives you're not seeing, the kickup the ass was meant in jest. That's not how it was read, it was read as an insult and I was invited round to that person's house to discuss dishing out boots up the hole. Funny in hindsight but how you perceive and mean something you write won't be how it is read necessarily. Funnier in hindsight when I checked the posters profile the sex was 'female' :-) I haven't seen that poster on for a while, but if he/she logs in, hopefully will enjoy it. You're right regarding all of these incidents where I was not present, could not hear - my views are influenced by third party information, by person or media. Leaving all the individual incidents aside, I think you have a point re: 2003 and maybe the way that team achieved its success, the aggression and intensity used (all perfectly legit), that maybe anti-Tyrone sentiment did start from there. I do however think that the number of incidents across club/minor/senior teams over the last 10 years that have involved Tyrone is open to be challenged as to why this trend is continuing that we are not witnessing with other counties. Is that not reasonable?
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Post by inforthebreaks on Aug 11, 2015 20:05:34 GMT
I wonder if Kerry were playing Mayo or Dublin in the Semi and not Tyrone would all this talk be going on? Methinks probably not.
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Post by MeathExile on Aug 11, 2015 21:04:16 GMT
As mentioned earlier by another poster it would be nice to talk about the upcoming match rather than Tyrone history/behaviour/antics. Anybody got any thoughts on team? Backs likely same as last day, unless Eamonn and co. play safe with Paul M and not start him. Fionn in instaed?
Forwards....very surprised if Donaghy not starting. I would guess JOD wont start even if fit as a precaution - which leaves room for Gooch to start, or possibly Darran?
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Post by seamo on Aug 11, 2015 21:15:53 GMT
I wonder if Kerry were playing Mayo or Dublin in the Semi and not Tyrone would all this talk be going on? Methinks probably not. What's your point? Are you saying that Kerry people forced Joe Brolly and others to have an opinion on what happened and then write it in newspaper columns? Was it Kerry people who encouraged the boys on TSG to highlight those incidents and give their opinions on it. Are Newstalk and other radio stations run by Kerry people, are their agendas and opinions dictated to them by Kerry people. FFS
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Post by seamo on Aug 11, 2015 21:19:03 GMT
As mentioned earlier by another poster it would be nice to talk about the upcoming match rather than Tyrone history/behaviour/antics. Anybody got any thoughts on team? Backs likely same as last day, unless Eamonn and co. play safe with Paul M and not start him. Fionn in instaed? Forwards....very surprised if Donaghy not starting. I would guess JOD wont start even if fit as a precaution - which leaves room for Gooch to start, or possibly Darran? Yeah Donaghy will likely come in for JOD. Hard to make too many other changes given the level of the performance v Kildare. I'm sure training matches will have a huge bearing on the selection. Crowley's physicality could be an option? I think he give more of a hand to AOM when it comes to picking up Sean Cav.
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Post by ballynamona on Aug 11, 2015 21:36:18 GMT
Complete aside, but worth mentioning...
If Kerry do win, it will be their 60th time qualifying for the All-Ireland Final.
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Post by tyroneperson on Aug 11, 2015 21:39:01 GMT
Philip Jordan is insinuating on his twitter that McCann's been suspended for eight weeks.
Read earlier that certain journalists had apparently been in touch with the CCCC asking why action hadn't been taken.
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Post by fitz on Aug 11, 2015 22:05:52 GMT
As mentioned earlier by another poster it would be nice to talk about the upcoming match rather than Tyrone history/behaviour/antics. Anybody got any thoughts on team? Backs likely same as last day, unless Eamonn and co. play safe with Paul M and not start him. Fionn in instaed? Forwards....very surprised if Donaghy not starting. I would guess JOD wont start even if fit as a precaution - which leaves room for Gooch to start, or possibly Darran? Got to play Murphy, he's a glove fit for this type of game. What to play safe with? We get to final, he plays and gets black carded? Play the game in front of you. Pick your best team. He's in our best 15. I'd be surprised if anyone thinks that's debatable but it's all about opinions here, so let's see... Forwards, Gooch to start. Donaghy likely to come in. Donnacha a cert. Stephen O is surely a cert unless he's managed to get sent off a training. Sheehan could be debatable. Gooch can handle the frees to 30 metres, maybe Dave will have been practicing in the background for a long time, Darren could add much needed pace defensively from centre forward. Unfortunately to date my memory bank is not filled with Darran's defensive feats. I don't want to underestimate Bryan's importance but his area is where one of Tyrone's biggest threats will emanate. Donnacha in centre? To be clear I wouldn't advocate sacrificing himself to curb Harte. Clearly he can cover Harte and create a goal or two and at least two points from play. Conservative enough expectation:) So if James is out: Geaney. Star. Barry John Gooch. Donnacha Stephen O I'd keep Stephen on the half. Could Sheehan play in the corner?
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Post by inchperfect on Aug 11, 2015 22:11:29 GMT
Philip Jordan is insinuating on his twitter that McCann's been suspended for eight weeks. Read earlier that certain journalists had apparently been in touch with the CCCC asking why action hadn't been taken. If true that's far too excessive in my opinion.
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Post by seamo on Aug 11, 2015 22:11:42 GMT
lol "Trial by media" are some of the cries...welcome to our world boys, plenty of times we had to play without Tomas and Paul because of selective highlighting of incidents, very little was heard from Ulster in our defence.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Aug 11, 2015 22:17:47 GMT
As mentioned earlier by another poster it would be nice to talk about the upcoming match rather than Tyrone history/behaviour/antics. Anybody got any thoughts on team? Backs likely same as last day, unless Eamonn and co. play safe with Paul M and not start him. Fionn in instaed? Forwards....very surprised if Donaghy not starting. I would guess JOD wont start even if fit as a precaution - which leaves room for Gooch to start, or possibly Darran? Got to play Murphy, he's a glove fit for this type of game. What to play safe with? We get to final, he plays and gets black carded? Play the game in front of you. Pick your best team. He's in our best 15. I'd be surprised if anyone thinks that's debatable but it's all about opinions here, so let's see... Forwards, Gooch to start. Donaghy likely to come in. Donnacha a cert. Stephen O is surely a cert unless he's managed to get sent off a training. Sheehan could be debatable. Gooch can handle the frees to 30 metres, maybe Dave will have been practicing in the background for a long time, Darren could add much needed pace defensively from centre forward. Unfortunately to date my memory bank is not filled with Darran's defensive feats. I don't want to underestimate Bryan's importance but his area is where one of Tyrone's biggest threats will emanate. Donnacha in centre? To be clear I wouldn't advocate sacrificing himself to curb Harte. Clearly he can cover Harte and create a goal or two and at least two points from play. Conservative enough expectation:) So if James is out: Geaney. Star. Barry John Gooch. Donnacha Stephen O I'd keep Stephen on the half. Could Sheehan play in the corner? Think it would be madness to start gooch as half forward. He wouldn't have the legs to track the runners. In the corner and play out from there if needs be. I have often wondered about Sheehan as a full forward. Great hands and can take a score as good as anyone. Great man to bring out around the middle for spells if needed. Won't happen this year but always something I'd like to see tried.
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Post by tyroneperson on Aug 11, 2015 22:17:54 GMT
Philip Jordan is insinuating on his twitter that McCann's been suspended for eight weeks. Read earlier that certain journalists had apparently been in touch with the CCCC asking why action hadn't been taken. If true that's far too excessive in my opinion. I think its the minimum for bringing the game into disrepute, which I presume is what they charged him with. Apparently it's official now. I imagine there will be an appeal.
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Post by Hicser on Aug 11, 2015 22:19:20 GMT
It could well be BJK for JOD, with Donaghy being used as an impact sub. I don't think there will be any other changes though. If Kerry get the fast start and pull away I can see the bench being emptied again.
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Post by fitz on Aug 11, 2015 22:45:08 GMT
If true that's far too excessive in my opinion. I think its the minimum for bringing the game into disrepute, which I presume is what they charged him with. Apparently it's official now. I imagine there will be an appeal. From the few searches I've done, the resulting articles overwhelmingly indicate the this will be easily overturned by DRA. Does the CCC have any purpose?
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Post by seamo on Aug 11, 2015 22:47:29 GMT
I think its the minimum for bringing the game into disrepute, which I presume is what they charged him with. Apparently it's official now. I imagine there will be an appeal. From the few searches I've done, the resulting articles overwhelmingly indicate the this will be easily overturned by DRA. Does the CCC have any purpose? Piss people off.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 11, 2015 22:55:05 GMT
lol "Trial by media" are some of the cries...welcome to our world boys, plenty of times we had to play without Tomas and Paul because of selective highlighting of incidents, very little was heard from Ulster in our defence. It was wrong then and it is wrong now. This is a farce if true.
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Post by fitz on Aug 11, 2015 22:56:57 GMT
Got to play Murphy, he's a glove fit for this type of game. What to play safe with? We get to final, he plays and gets black carded? Play the game in front of you. Pick your best team. He's in our best 15. I'd be surprised if anyone thinks that's debatable but it's all about opinions here, so let's see... Forwards, Gooch to start. Donaghy likely to come in. Donnacha a cert. Stephen O is surely a cert unless he's managed to get sent off a training. Sheehan could be debatable. Gooch can handle the frees to 30 metres, maybe Dave will have been practicing in the background for a long time, Darren could add much needed pace defensively from centre forward. Unfortunately to date my memory bank is not filled with Darran's defensive feats. I don't want to underestimate Bryan's importance but his area is where one of Tyrone's biggest threats will emanate. Donnacha in centre? To be clear I wouldn't advocate sacrificing himself to curb Harte. Clearly he can cover Harte and create a goal or two and at least two points from play. Conservative enough expectation:) So if James is out: Geaney. Star. Barry John Gooch. Donnacha Stephen O I'd keep Stephen on the half. Could Sheehan play in the corner? Think it would be madness to start gooch as half forward. He wouldn't have the legs to track the runners. In the corner and play out from there if needs be. I have often wondered about Sheehan as a full forward. Great hands and can take a score as good as anyone. Great man to bring out around the middle for spells if needed. Won't happen this year but always something I'd like to see tried. He's in a starting 15 if picked and deemed fit for 70 mins of action whatever is entailed from him. We're likely to run into traffic on the half forward line and lock pickers are welcome, especially if direct ball to FF line isn't reaping. I agree he's not best utilized making 70 yard defensive run but I wouldn't consign him to the corner for that reason. He is a genius playmaker so maybe he'll go where his talents are most needed.
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Post by seamo on Aug 11, 2015 23:02:34 GMT
lol "Trial by media" are some of the cries...welcome to our world boys, plenty of times we had to play without Tomas and Paul because of selective highlighting of incidents, very little was heard from Ulster in our defence. It was wrong then and it is wrong now. This is a farce if true. I agree. There needs to be a clear rule/ clarification for antics such as this during the winter, with consistent application of the rules thereafter, along with a clear and consistent identification of indiscretions after the game....but we called for this after Paulie and everyother county told us where to go. Too many GAA fans are narrow minded blinded by their own counties prospects rather than the game itself.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Aug 12, 2015 0:21:07 GMT
If they do charge him and look to ban him for 8 weeks its a disgrace. The diving has being going on all summer, look at shields against kerry. Only an issue now as the Sunday game highlighted it so much.
As usual TSG setting the disciplinary agenda for the GAA. Not a hope this will stick and i hope he gets off.
You can't retrospectively legislate for diving really being honest. Who is to arbitrate the necessary amount of force a fella has to be hit with or tackled with before its not a dive?
Can bigger fellas be hit harder before they can hit the deck? The GAA is fast becoming a parody of itself
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Post by Ballyfireside on Aug 12, 2015 1:01:14 GMT
Yes, if we were playing Mayo or Dublin we would not be focusing on Tyrone's tactics. What I find unusual is that Tyrone supporters I have met down the years are the best there is and maybe their respect for Kerry is part of this but that alone wouldn't make them the people I have found them to be. Then we hear of a lad being taunted about a family bereavement in a minor match and now Mickey defends some crazy stuff. I have probably gotten to know more Tyrone folk than most and the disparity is hard to fathom. The best and the worst all rolled into one and I'd hate for anyone to think that my comments had an ulterior motive; I couldn't let down friendships that I value and I'd include our contributors on here in that.
TSG is entitled to it's views on all aspects of the game and if they excluded disciplinary matters then we'd all go berserk.
As regards the match it is not so significant as I expect the referee will be on red alert and Kerry will have to give as good as they get in every respect and to me it is the dream draw. No matter where anyone is from, we now have the prospect of at least three amazing games and I can't see any flops so it will be all down to the wire stuff.
Contrary to the betting boards and for those not familiar with punting, much of the disparity in the odds is because: 1. Bigger population in Dublin = more bets = shorter odds on them. 2. Tyrone is in Ulster so not all the money would find it's way and be laid off in the Dublin bookie market, and nobody in their right mind would offer 10/1 on them anyway.
That means the odds are a lot closer than they appear and do remember that we were the outsiders of the four last year.
Be jazus but the next 6 weeks will be some crack!
Slán go fóill a chairde go leir ó an Contae Chiarraí ar fud an domhain.
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Post by beantownfan on Aug 12, 2015 1:17:17 GMT
If this is true (that he got an 8 week ban), the GAA higher ups really need to have a look at who are on these committees as they are obviously easily swayed by public opinion and are not very logical in their application of the rules. Unlike Galvin and P. Russell this won't even need to go to the DRA.. The process is the CCCC hands out a 'proposed' penalty, the player can accept it or request a hearing. Once a hearing is requested the proposed ban is essentially void and it is up to the hearings committee to decide on a punishment if any. In the case of a hearing the player is present with 2 reps from the Tyrone Co. Board and the CCCC is represented by 2 members, with the CCCC having to justify why the ban was handed down.. The only reason they could have given an 8 week ban is for bringing the game into disrepute which is the most 'general offense' you could pick. At the same time it is a pretty hard one to prove for a player, it is easy to justify when brining it against a club involved in a malee or some other dispute, but very difficult to prove in the case of a player. Did he really, by himself, bring the game into disrepute? Hughes did after all place his hand on McCann's head. Tyrone will argue and show all the past incidents of diving where no retrospective action was taken, and that will be the end of it.. Game, set and Match!
You can be sure no one in the Kerry camp will think for a minute that this will be upheld, because it won't.. On the other hand it does play a little in Kerry's favor as the media frenzy will be firmly focused on our comrades from the Red Hand county, and it will be a good week before this gets resolved, at which point Kerry should be close to team selection! The draw back of course is that it is further fodder for the 'us against the rest' mentality that they may have..
I guess Mikey Harte will have to boycott RTE again...
As previous posters have mentioned it was not so long ago that there were massive witch hunts going on for certain Kerry players, in most cases incidents being grossly exaggerated.. It is not a nice place to be, Kerry folk would do well to ignore it and just move on.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2015 2:08:51 GMT
There are good and bad things to starting Donaghy. If they start him do they go back to kicking big high balls into him. Im sure Tyrone with just put two men on him and clean up the breaks and that will be a complete waste. On the other hand if they kick accurate chest high passes into him he will win them and pass them off or get fouled. You could say the same with Darren. His pace will cause problems for them cause one thing about Tyrone their backs are not the fastest. It's hard to know if he will go with the same team. O'Donoghue has to start if he's fit. Cooper is playing well. Sheehen for the frees. Donnacha for his work rate. O'Brien played well against Kildare but he won't get that room against Tyrone. Geaney was poor the last day but he will probably get another chance. Midfield is a cert. The backs I think will be the same. On paper we look to have a better bench than Tyrone. You have Donaghy, Galvin, Darren, Buckley, and BJ Keane, to pick from plus Mikey Geaney. They could also use Tommy Walsh up front or midfield. That's a good choice. It could be the difference in the last 15 minutes.
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Post by haryegsnbaken on Aug 12, 2015 2:29:31 GMT
At this stage I have a pain in my fecken head from it. More fool me for reading all this stuff.
A team like Tyrone who were out in the cold up to the noughties and then won 3 have to be applauded. I can only imagine how it lifted their county and their people.
I know people will point to this that and the other...Build a bridge and get over it. The referees linesmen umpires are in charge. HQ are a joke at present. We have what we have...Lets not spoil whats left of our season.
I had some great evenings out in Dun Laoighre with them after matches. Still sore from the back slapping and still confused about what they were actually saying.
As regards an earlier post, I would have Tommy Walsh in for Brian Sheehan. If he has progressed in training from the Kildare game. Kealy for the long ones.
Best of luck to both teams.
Ciarraí Abú...
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Post by wayupnorth on Aug 12, 2015 6:55:52 GMT
As regards the possible suspension (but only because it could have an effect on the match!), I think it's just as wrong for CCCC to apparently react to CSI TSG as it was in 2010 with Paul and Tomas. Pundits are free to say whatever they want but problems arise when only the incidents they highlight come in for special attention.
So what about the team? I would leave defence and midfield unchanged - they have proven themselves in the last two games as a cohesive unit. In the forwards Colm must start but who to leave out if Ciaran and James are fit to play? Unfortunately I'm veering towards Stephen O'Brien who had a great game against Kildare but would not now be coming under the radar and could get rattled by this opposition. Yet he scored some great long range points from play and this is exactly what we need against the Tyrone defence. Darran and Barry John will also be pushing to start given their form against Kildare as, to a lesser extent, will Tommy Walsh.
I'm glad someone else is making these calls but it's great to have such talent to choose from.
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Post by misteallaigh abú on Aug 12, 2015 8:51:47 GMT
Will Michael Shiels get the same for his dive against us in the replay? This suspension is yet again, a reaction to media outrage and hysteria. What Mc Cann did was despicable,yes, but no less so than hard man Shiels who doesn't get hauled over the coals,doesn't get banned for the exact same offence. I wouldn't have a problem with suspensions if they were consistently and fairly applied across the board. Who is making the rules here?
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Post by animal on Aug 12, 2015 8:52:03 GMT
Because training is behind closed doors and the wealth of viable options at Eamonn's disposal especially up front predicting the teams this year has been nigh on impossible. Eamonn has pulled one or two rabbits out of the hat this year alone. For the most part we are finding it hard to pick a team because of lads playing well rather than trying to fill a particular position on the field. As always it will be based on form in training with a small nod to horses for courses. Although the horses for courses element may be more applicable to the game plan / system than actual personnel. Like other posters I would have concern over Paul Murphy and the potential suspension from another black card and also Stephen O'Brien's occasional hotheadedness. However I don't think either of these factors will be enough to keep them of the team if Eamonn feels that we need them.
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