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Post by southward on Aug 10, 2015 22:08:56 GMT
I doubt the reaction was quite the same though Southward... Beggan was down holding the face too after bugger all happening to him ... If you did a quick search on youtube you will find that every county has players who occasionally do it ... Until there's proper punishment for it, it will continue.. Its unfair to say its a Tyrone problem .. its a Gaelic Football problem.. Jaysis I watched the Sunday Game and it was comical. Firstly the funny irony of Whelan's point that McCann should come out be open and honest, I made a mistake and then brush it under the carpet. A strange slant on that phrase Sean Cavanagh got a sly dig from Finlay alright as he was on his knees. Dermot - he is a great player, one of the finest in last 20 years, but the little dint McManus gave him walking to take a free that saw him fall on the ground was farcical. Really bad. How Kieran Hughes was left on the pitch is beyond me, he would appear in the melee, throw a lad off and then snake away hoping to avoid detection, half attempted roundhouse kick on the ball too at one stage. He lost it completely. McCann not just for the hair assault, was bananas blindly running in and grabbing lads rolling his head about, it looked to me like he was hoping someone would clock him. I can only describe his movement of a something like a lad in the horrors of cider in a dark room. It was crazy stuff. Sorry Dermo, I agree Tyrone are not the only ones responsible but there is a consistent trend across minor, club, U21 and Senior that have seen Tyrone teams involved in scenes/incidents many times over the last 10 years that no other county shares. The U21 final this year with Tipperary refusing to let Tyrone representation into their dressing room afterwards is something I've never heard of before at inter-county level. I don't believe it was down to Tipp just being sore losers. Yes it is a GAA problem, but I don't understand why people would choose to pick on Tyrone, if the evidence of these issues was in equality across all 32 counties. Why do you think Tyrone are the sole focus now from this latest match? You can add in junior, as in Derrytresk, or intermediate, as in Mugsy's crowd. There may be two teams on the pitch at any one time, but in the pantheon of ugly incidents, the (most) common denominator is Tyrone. A county like that, the little guys who made it big, should be a cause for celebration. Instead they've become probably the most despised county in football, ever. And that's a shame for the decent Tyrone footballers and for decent supporters like tyroneperson, Dermot and I'm sure thousands more. But, with sincere apologies to you guys, I welcome and enjoy your contributions here, but I'm sick to my teeth of your teams and what they bring to the game and I really hope Kerry wipe Mickey Harte and his legacy off the map in 2 weeks.
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Post by norman on Aug 10, 2015 22:30:48 GMT
Tyrone will employ the same tactics they did in 2003, it will be ugly as usual.
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Post by MeathExile on Aug 10, 2015 22:31:12 GMT
Tyrone have a win at all costs mentality, and this often has them crossing the line, especially in tight games where they get their noses in front. I firmly believe this is coming from the man in charge. If he was to stand in the dressing room and tell them to cop on and play it fair, would we see this kind of stuff happening. It has seeped from the senior county team into 21s, minors, and their club system. It gets them some results but very few admirers.
Looking ahead, if we play Killian centre back we are goosed. Aidan has to take Sean K. If Mark Griffin is not on match day panel we are leaving ourselves open to lack of physical presence iin the middle if Aidan or Peter get injured. Personally, I would prefer to have Mark available before Paul G as we have enough good forwards without him.
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Post by fitz on Aug 10, 2015 22:46:47 GMT
If Killian plays at centre back we're goosed??? The success of the game is down to Killian's deployment? Is that what you mean? Shane may actually be best equipped to tackle Cavanagh but agree Aidan is a good man for a targeted marquee player also. Paul won't be playing in forwards if he plays if his role against Kildare is an indicator. I'd have him every day over Griffin. There's a chance we won't see Griffin again tho campaign. In the backs I think it is agility more than strength that will hold higher stock.
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Post by Jo90 on Aug 10, 2015 23:17:45 GMT
I think all this negative attention on Tyrone is making Kerry look like angels, which let's face it is far from the truth. Kerry were no angels either in '05 and '08. Dermot is taking all the comments very well I must say. Anyway aren't we all friends now after those free cups of tea and free sandwiches in Omagh? This is essentially a brand new Tyrone team and I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt until I see them with my own eyes in a couple of weeks rather than jump on the anti-Tyrone bandwagon.
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Post by seamo on Aug 10, 2015 23:31:46 GMT
I think all this negative attention on Tyrone is making Kerry look like angels, which let's face it is far from the truth. Kerry were no angels either in '05 and '08. Dermot is taking all the comments very well I must say. Anyway aren't we all friends now after those free cups of tea and free sandwiches in Omagh? This is essentially a brand new Tyrone team and I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt until I see them with my own eyes in a couple of weeks rather than jump on the anti-Tyrone bandwagon. There's no anti-Tyrone bandwagon, you sound like you want to pretend all that sh!te didn't happen at the weekend and you'll only acknowledge the existence of such antics when you see them in person? That's a bit of a cop out. Nobody is saying that Tyrone should be booted out of the championship!! Just that this crap has gone on for long enough, players should be punished adequately for the carry on that happened, otherwise it will only get worse. I went to an underage game of football tonight...it was so bloody refreshing to see actual football being played and with intensity. Fair hits given and taken, there's hope yet for intercounty "football".
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Post by ballintoy on Aug 10, 2015 23:51:25 GMT
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Post by Jo90 on Aug 11, 2015 0:20:10 GMT
I think all this negative attention on Tyrone is making Kerry look like angels, which let's face it is far from the truth. Kerry were no angels either in '05 and '08. Dermot is taking all the comments very well I must say. Anyway aren't we all friends now after those free cups of tea and free sandwiches in Omagh? This is essentially a brand new Tyrone team and I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt until I see them with my own eyes in a couple of weeks rather than jump on the anti-Tyrone bandwagon. There's no anti-Tyrone bandwagon, you sound like you want to pretend all that sh!te didn't happen at the weekend and you'll only acknowledge the existence of such antics when you see them in person? That's a bit of a cop out. Nobody is saying that Tyrone should be booted out of the championship!! Just that this crap has gone on for long enough, players should be punished adequately for the carry on that happened, otherwise it will only get worse. I went to an underage game of football tonight...it was so bloody refreshing to see actual football being played and with intensity. Fair hits given and taken, there's hope yet for intercounty "football". The reason I consider there to be an anti-Tyrone bandwagon is because Tyrone were involved in approximately 50% of the unsavoury incidents in Saturday's 1/4 final yet have gotten 99% of the flak on The Sunday Game, Twitter, Social Media, etc. It reminded me of when TSG was highlighting incidents involving Tomás O Se and Paul Galvin asking for bans when there were plenty of incidents as bad or worse in other games being ignored. I don't like this hypocrisy by TSG regardless of whether it's Kerry or other counties.
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Post by ballintoy on Aug 11, 2015 1:13:56 GMT
Fair play Jo90. When Tyrone played Donegal in the first round of the Ulster championship this year there was a scuffle at half time. As the players on both teams were approaching the changing rooms via a narrow tunnel, Mickey Harte tried to stop his players going in at the same time as the Donegal team to avoid any confrontation or silliness.It shouldn't have been up to him, that should have been sorted before the game.
Another point I want to make is: Tyrone, when they played Tipperary in the u21 final and in the senior Knock out game in Thurles had players "stomped on" but you never here much a bout it? and in fairness to Tyrone they didn't make much of it either.R(ugby)T.E. obviously have an agenda here its great that some people can see past that.
As for the game itself I think Tyrone are probably a little green just yet. Kerry at the minute are a footballing machine and have the ability to win a couple of more All-Irelands. I just can't see any weak links on the panel. Should be exiting both teams have very talanted players.
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Post by buck02 on Aug 11, 2015 6:05:26 GMT
I think all this negative attention on Tyrone is making Kerry look like angels, which let's face it is far from the truth. Kerry were no angels either in '05 and '08. Dermot is taking all the comments very well I must say. Anyway aren't we all friends now after those free cups of tea and free sandwiches in Omagh?This is essentially a brand new Tyrone team and I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt until I see them with my own eyes in a couple of weeks rather than jump on the anti-Tyrone bandwagon. And clapping us onto the pitch in Omagh in April? I agree that Monaghan escaped fairly lightly in the post match coverage but like another poster pointed out, why does this stuff always follow Tyrone teams around? The 2004 minor final was mentioned, well remember the 2011 minor quarter final? The poisonous club games? U21 final this year? Minor game v Donegal? Senior game v Donegal? Senior Game v Monaghan? Maybe the managers of the various teams are not instructing players to behave in such a manner and this is just the culture that has seeped into the game in Tyrone. Yes there are other teams who are crossing the line and maybe not getting the same coverage Tyrone are getting. But the frequency of the line crossing the the severity of the incidents is why Tyrone are getting flak IMO.
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Post by wayupnorth on Aug 11, 2015 6:26:03 GMT
Cork this year and Mayo last year made the mistake of focussing too much on the match that had just passed and not enough on the match to come. We can't allow ourselves to make the same mistake and for a match we weren't even involved in!
Yes there is still a lot of hurt in Kerry about the 3 losses in Croke Park but just like the five in a row and our inability (yet) to beat Down in the Championship we must consign it to history as it should have no great relevance now. Our recent record against Tyrone is very good and we can beat them. I am trusting Eamon to get the players in the right place both physically and mentally.
Mickey Harte's reaction on the BBC was interesting. He can't understand why Tyrone are singled out but admits some players made "mistakes". It is clear that there will be no recriminations within the Tyrone camp so they will not be making the Cork/Mayo error. And you can be sure that they will be using the media criticism as a motivating factor just as we did in other times.
Tyrone are very clearly coming into this match as underdogs and we underestimate them at our peril. Remember the half-cooked team in transition that lifted Sam in 2014?
Having said that I am very confident that we can beat Tyrone and get to the final. In 2008, I was feeling very low not because we had lost but because I felt that we would never gat another chance to meet that Tyrone team in Croke Park. But we won two All Irelands since then and we are well capable of winning another this year.
So please consign the Tyrone/Monaghan Quarter to history and look forward to our next step on the Road to Sam on the 23rd.
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Post by seamo on Aug 11, 2015 8:50:07 GMT
There's no anti-Tyrone bandwagon, you sound like you want to pretend all that sh!te didn't happen at the weekend and you'll only acknowledge the existence of such antics when you see them in person? That's a bit of a cop out. Nobody is saying that Tyrone should be booted out of the championship!! Just that this crap has gone on for long enough, players should be punished adequately for the carry on that happened, otherwise it will only get worse. I went to an underage game of football tonight...it was so bloody refreshing to see actual football being played and with intensity. Fair hits given and taken, there's hope yet for intercounty "football". The reason I consider there to be an anti-Tyrone bandwagon is because Tyrone were involved in approximately 50% of the unsavoury incidents in Saturday's 1/4 final yet have gotten 99% of the flak on The Sunday Game, Twitter, Social Media, etc. It reminded me of when TSG was highlighting incidents involving Tomás O Se and Paul Galvin asking for bans when there were plenty of incidents as bad or worse in other games being ignored. I don't like this hypocrisy by TSG regardless of whether it's Kerry or other counties. Monaghan were diving to kill the game and waste time? Jesus no wonder they lost so, they must have taught they were ahead! Nobody said Monaghan were innocent, your 50% figure is no where near accurate....actually where did you get this figure from? In your previous post you claimed to not be informed enough and needed to actually be present at the game to be sure?!! Tyrone have taken the brunt of the criticism because: 1. They have form for this sort of stuff, more-so than any-other county. That's not to say they are the only county, but they certainly are the leaders of the pack. 2. Tyrone won the game and so are still in the championship. No benefit will come for the game or the remaining matches to kick Monaghan while their down, especially when what happened wasn't of their own doing. 3. The most high profile incident occurred because of the actions of a Tyrone player. Player ruffles opponents hair causing severe injury!! Why would that not be all over twitter and the likes?
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Post by seamo on Aug 11, 2015 8:55:01 GMT
Cork this year and Mayo last year made the mistake of focussing too much on the match that had just passed and not enough on the match to come. We can't allow ourselves to make the same mistake and for a match we weren't even involved in! Yes there is still a lot of hurt in Kerry about the 3 losses in Croke Park but just like the five in a row and our inability (yet) to beat Down in the Championship we must consign it to history as it should have no great relevance now. Our recent record against Tyrone is very good and we can beat them. I am trusting Eamon to get the players in the right place both physically and mentally. Mickey Harte's reaction on the BBC was interesting. He can't understand why Tyrone are singled out but admits some players made "mistakes". It is clear that there will be no recriminations within the Tyrone camp so they will not be making the Cork/Mayo error. And you can be sure that they will be using the media criticism as a motivating factor just as we did in other times. Tyrone are very clearly coming into this match as underdogs and we underestimate them at our peril. Remember the half-cooked team in transition that lifted Sam in 2014? Having said that I am very confident that we can beat Tyrone and get to the final. In 2008, I was feeling very low not because we had lost but because I felt that we would never gat another chance to meet that Tyrone team in Croke Park. But we won two All Irelands since then and we are well capable of winning another this year. So please consign the Tyrone/Monaghan Quarter to history and look forward to our next step on the Road to Sam on the 23rd. Your presuming that we have some major influence on Kerry players preperation for the game. As long as your not chasing Star or BJK down Castle street for their own take on Monaghan V Tyrone then we should be safe enough talking about it here. Or we could just sweep it under the carpet like what was done in the noughties regarding blanket defences and then wake up 10 years later and wonder how Gaelic football became so negative, defensive and boring!
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Post by jackiel on Aug 11, 2015 9:55:22 GMT
Here goes nothing, I may get slated for some of what I'm going to write here but believe me I'm not biased against a whole county. As with all things in life there are some who will give others a bad name. In general I have no problem with Tyrone supporters, there are some however who see no wrong in anything their players do and that the rest of us are out to get them. the recent uproar about Mc Curry's delayed drug test was a case in point - gobs***es claiming GAA bias against Tyrone and how it wouldn't happen to anyone else. Well sorry lads, first off drug testing is not a GAA function and secondly the reason for the delay was the inability of the player to provide a sample for testing. Unfortunately this wasn't pointed out in the articles highlighting the delay and gave those fools more cannon fodder and extra weight to the chips on their shoulders. I have witnessed at first hand Tyrone Minor mentors screaming at players to "pull the *ers down" - in my book that is totally unacceptable. The carry on of some of the Tyrone sideline & backroom people has also been most unsavoury in my personal experience. On Saturday evening the goading from the Tyrone bench to the Monaghan bench in the latter stages of the match was disgraceful, one of the players who'd been subbed even stood up as the whistle blew and was calling the Monaghan lads down for a fight. This behaviour has no place in the GAA that I know and love. Again let me stress that I know there are many Tyrone people who wouldn't condone any of the above but a couple of bad experiences can leave a nasty taste in one's mouth. Tyrone are not alone in the "dark arts" by no means, there are incidents in almost every match where a player from any county may get away with sledging, sneaking knee's into opponents backs etc, ref's don't see anything and linesmen have selective blindness sometimes. Every couple of months there's a big to-do about some silly diving incident - (our own Aidan was afflicted by the same bug a few years ago), so maybe it's time to introduce some sort of sanction against it and then lads could lay off the acting and stick to playing football. I'm really looking forward to 23rd and hope that we have a proper game of football. I do believe Kerry are better players and should win but we really need to keep our heads and concentrate on playing the game.
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Post by Dermot on Aug 11, 2015 9:57:09 GMT
I doubt the reaction was quite the same though Southward... Beggan was down holding the face too after bugger all happening to him ... If you did a quick search on youtube you will find that every county has players who occasionally do it ... Until there's proper punishment for it, it will continue.. Its unfair to say its a Tyrone problem .. its a Gaelic Football problem.. Jaysis I watched the Sunday Game and it was comical. Firstly the funny irony of Whelan's point that McCann should come out be open and honest, I made a mistake and then brush it under the carpet. A strange slant on that phrase .. Sean Cavanagh got a sly dig from Finlay alright as he was on his knees. Dermot - he is a great player, one of the finest in last 20 years, but the little dint McManus gave him walking to take a free that saw him fall on the ground was farcical. Really bad. Fitzwop, I honestly dont see it quite like that - Finley hit him two punches to the head .. one a rabbit punch .. thats not good... As regards McManus elbow to the ribs .. how can you or anyone know how hard that was .. looked hard enough to me ...Would James O'Donaghue not have went down in those cercumstances ? How Kieran Hughes was left on the pitch is beyond me, he would appear in the melee, throw a lad off and then snake away hoping to avoid detection, half attempted roundhouse kick on the ball too at one stage. He lost it completely. McCann not just for the hair assault, was bananas blindly running in and grabbing lads rolling his head about, it looked to me like he was hoping someone would clock him. I can only describe his movement of a something like a lad in the horrors of cider in a dark room. It was crazy stuff. Yeah, very disappointing to see his antics at the end .. was jumping around like a rag doll .. it looked so weird .. Hopefully he wont be at that sh1te again because he's a fine player .. just needs to catch himself on a bit from now on!! Sorry Dermo, I agree Tyrone are not the only ones responsible but there is a consistent trend across minor, club, U21 and Senior that have seen Tyrone teams involved in scenes/incidents many times over the last 10 years that no other county shares. The U21 final this year with Tipperary refusing to let Tyrone representation into their dressing room afterwards is something I've never heard of before at inter-county level. I don't believe it was down to Tipp just being sore losers. Yes it is a GAA problem, but I don't understand why people would choose to pick on Tyrone, if the evidence of these issues was in equality across all 32 counties. Why do you think Tyrone are the sole focus now from this latest match? In all honesty, no one knows what actually happened in the Minot or U21 matches earlier in the year yet a lot of people seem to be outraged at Tyrones behaviour .. With all due respect Fitzwop, how can you or anyone else for that matter slate Tyrone for something which you have "ENTIRELY" no proof of ? Of course we have gamesmanship but so do all the other top 8 teams .. Kerry are no shrinking violets in this arena either .. just look at the 71 & 72 minutes of last years All Ireland Final.. I believe since 2003 there has been an anti-tyrone backlash which has steadily gotten worse and is now just a matter of all the sheep following suit .. This has been enhanced by M Hartes relationship with RTE I presume.. I respect your view Fitzwop as you come accross fairly balanced so Im a little disappointing that you have joined the bandwagon so to speak .. I guess that means we (Tyrone) really should be trying to nip this in the bud as it will also undoubtedly have an adverse affect on future games, just as it did with the reffing of the 2013 semi with Mayo.. Having "SOMEONE" talking to RTE would surely help .. then again maybe not. I have read may of the pundits articles on the match and the one that stuck out the most was our friend Joe Brolly who stated that on the 53 minute Sean Cavanagh lay down wasting time for minutes .. Well he would, he'd just been rabbit punched in the back of the head and then punched again in the Jaw .. I'd want a wee lay down too lol ... Then Brolly complained about Colm Cavanagh laying down on the 70th minute .. No mention of the FACT that he'd just been taken out of it by K Hughes ..... STupit & UNTRUE allegations by Brolly .. the worst of it is that even though the video evidence is clearly there to prove him 100% wrong, he can spout whet he likes with no comeback .... just like the others on the bandwagon All I ask for is balance and equality when reporting on or discussing these things .. Tyrone arent getting that and havent been for a good few years now.... I think if people really tried to think for themselves they would see this.. Wouldnt it be great to be able to talk about the game !!
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Post by Dermot on Aug 11, 2015 10:15:58 GMT
There's no anti-Tyrone bandwagon, you sound like you want to pretend all that sh!te didn't happen at the weekend and you'll only acknowledge the existence of such antics when you see them in person? That's a bit of a cop out. Nobody is saying that Tyrone should be booted out of the championship!! Just that this crap has gone on for long enough, players should be punished adequately for the carry on that happened, otherwise it will only get worse. I went to an underage game of football tonight...it was so bloody refreshing to see actual football being played and with intensity. Fair hits given and taken, there's hope yet for intercounty "football". The reason I consider there to be an anti-Tyrone bandwagon is because Tyrone were involved in approximately 50% of the unsavoury incidents in Saturday's 1/4 final yet have gotten 99% of the flak on The Sunday Game, Twitter, Social Media, etc. It reminded me of when TSG was highlighting incidents involving Tomás O Se and Paul Galvin asking for bans when there were plenty of incidents as bad or worse in other games being ignored. I don't like this hypocrisy by TSG regardless of whether it's Kerry or other counties. Fair play Jo90. When Tyrone played Donegal in the first round of the Ulster championship this year there was a scuffle at half time. As the players on both teams were approaching the changing rooms via a narrow tunnel, Mickey Harte tried to stop his players going in at the same time as the Donegal team to avoid any confrontation or silliness.It shouldn't have been up to him, that should have been sorted before the game. Another point I want to make is: Tyrone, when they played Tipperary in the u21 final and in the senior Knock out game in Thurles had players "stomped on" but you never here much a bout it? and in fairness to Tyrone they didn't make much of it either.R(ugby)T.E. obviously have an agenda here its great that some people can see past that. As for the game itself I think Tyrone are probably a little green just yet. Kerry at the minute are a footballing machine and have the ability to win a couple of more All-Irelands. I just can't see any weak links on the panel. Should be exiting both teams have very talanted players. Thanks Guys ... A rare balanced view from you guys .. nice to see !!
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Post by Dermot on Aug 11, 2015 10:17:36 GMT
Cork this year and Mayo last year made the mistake of focussing too much on the match that had just passed and not enough on the match to come. We can't allow ourselves to make the same mistake and for a match we weren't even involved in! Yes there is still a lot of hurt in Kerry about the 3 losses in Croke Park but just like the five in a row and our inability (yet) to beat Down in the Championship we must consign it to history as it should have no great relevance now. Our recent record against Tyrone is very good and we can beat them. I am trusting Eamon to get the players in the right place both physically and mentally. Mickey Harte's reaction on the BBC was interesting. He can't understand why Tyrone are singled out but admits some players made "mistakes". It is clear that there will be no recriminations within the Tyrone camp so they will not be making the Cork/Mayo error. And you can be sure that they will be using the media criticism as a motivating factor just as we did in other times. Tyrone are very clearly coming into this match as underdogs and we underestimate them at our peril. Remember the half-cooked team in transition that lifted Sam in 2014? Having said that I am very confident that we can beat Tyrone and get to the final. In 2008, I was feeling very low not because we had lost but because I felt that we would never gat another chance to meet that Tyrone team in Croke Park. But we won two All Irelands since then and we are well capable of winning another this year. So please consign the Tyrone/Monaghan Quarter to history and look forward to our next step on the Road to Sam on the 23rd. Your presuming that we have some major influence on Kerry players preperation for the game. As long as your not chasing Star or BJK down Castle street for their own take on Monaghan V Tyrone then we should be safe enough talking about it here. Or we could just sweep it under the carpet like what was done in the noughties regarding blanket defences and then wake up 10 years later and wonder how Gaelic football became so negative, defensive and boring! There was nothing boring about that match for the first 60 minutes ,... Was great match up until that..
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Post by animal on Aug 11, 2015 10:23:18 GMT
Wouldnt it be great to be able to talk about the game !! And so say all of us. Seriously. Can we talk about the shagging game? If lads want to talk about cynicism and foul play etc why not start a new thread where the issue can be addressed in the wider (i.e. not just Tyrone)context. It was inevitable that this thread would just descend into the old arguing and bickering that occurs every time Kerry and Tyrone come up for discussion. The controversies from the weekend do not help the chances of having reasoned debate and that is unfortunate. We should be talking about Tyrone's use of double sweepers. The form of their corner forwards.James' shoulder, Donaghy starting or not etc. It is a forum for discussion and far be it for me to dictate the topic of discussion but Christ on a bike it gets tiresome when it reverts to type.
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Post by Dermot on Aug 11, 2015 10:24:07 GMT
Good Idea Animal ... OK Folks, can someone please start an Anti-Tyrone thread on another page .. I dont have the heart (pardon the pun) to do it myself !!
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Post by Dermot on Aug 11, 2015 10:26:01 GMT
Actually, what about J O'D ... will he be fit and ready for the 23rd?
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Post by animal on Aug 11, 2015 10:28:34 GMT
Good Idea Animal ... OK Folks, can someone please start an Anti-Tyrone thread on another page .. I dont have the heart (pardon the pun) to do it myself !! Haha I didn't mean an Anti- Tyrone page but I'm sure it would eventually end up as such. At least it would be corralled.... A bit like "Hamsterdam" if you're a fan of The Wire
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Post by Dermot on Aug 11, 2015 10:37:54 GMT
Good Idea Animal ... OK Folks, can someone please start an Anti-Tyrone thread on another page .. I dont have the heart (pardon the pun) to do it myself !! Haha I didn't mean an Anti- Tyrone page but I'm sure it would eventually end up as such. At least it would be corralled.... A bit like "Hamsterdam" if you're a fan of The Wire lol, Yeah its a good idea for sure .. I might be better barring myself from it though lol ... Sorry Animal, Ive got the box sets but just like House Of Cards, which everyone keeps telling me to watch, I aint seen any of it yet !!!
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Post by Jo90 on Aug 11, 2015 12:06:25 GMT
A lot had been mentioned about having strong experienced players to face Tyrone. I think we're fine in that regard. I think Tyrone's main weapon will be speed, especially from midfield and half back line. Cork used a similar tactic in the first MF game and it nearly worked. Michael Geaney was brought in to combat that in the replay. Sheehan's lack of speed might be targeted as might some of our backs.
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Post by Dermot on Aug 11, 2015 12:16:40 GMT
I Agree there that our speed is our main weapon against your defense but I still think Kerry have far too much going on up front to lose this game ... If Harte gets the match-ups right we may have a slight chance but I just dont know how we will stop your forwards.. There's just too many good players there to track them all..
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Aug 11, 2015 14:49:12 GMT
There is a fine line between losing discipline and standing up for yourself. I expect Tyrone to have a cut and play cleaner than the QF --- it does take two to tango. Good point. Ulster teams often have often come out of Ulster dogfights down the years and then played great football against non Ulster teams.
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Post by Dermot on Aug 11, 2015 15:50:31 GMT
Looks like we will probably not have Joe McMahon for this game .. big loss if thats the case :-( !!!
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Post by G_S_J on Aug 11, 2015 16:00:29 GMT
So how much are we going to beat this lot by, 20, 30, 40?
Only joking... I'm doing the opposite of cute hoorism which is the new style of cute hoorism that's en-vogue this Summer.
They'll never know what we're thinking! Enigmas the lot of us.
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Post by Jo90 on Aug 11, 2015 16:15:04 GMT
So how much are we going to beat this lot by, 20, 30, 40? Only joking... I'm doing the opposite of cute hoorism which is the new style of cute hoorism that's en-vogue this Summer. They'll never know what we're thinking! Enigmas the lot of us. Definitely don't want to trash them, if that happens Harte will go and will be replaced by a management team of Canavan, Dooher and Tom Daley.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Aug 11, 2015 16:16:07 GMT
As regards the sledging, spitting, etc we are muddying the waters here. No team is perfect but there is a line that shouldn't be crossed and Kerry didn't lead us towards it. By not taking responsibility with remedial action, then management is approving of it and that is a big disappointment. Young men playing a game of such intensity need leadership and bannisters; they are being failed with the inevitable consequences. What happened v Tipperary U21 was a disgrace and they wouldn't be sensitive or drama queens.
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seamo
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Post by seamo on Aug 11, 2015 16:24:12 GMT
So how much are we going to beat this lot by, 20, 30, 40? Only joking... I'm doing the opposite of cute hoorism which is the new style of cute hoorism that's en-vogue this Summer. They'll never know what we're thinking! Enigmas the lot of us. Definitely don't want to trash them, if that happens Harte will go and will be replaced by a management team of Canavan, Dooher and Tom Daley. Tom Daley you funny fu£ker!!! hahaha Actually Daley's a bit overhyped...I reckon the dude with the hair(don't actually know his name, don't want to! lol) would beat him in a dive off!!
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