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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 17:21:19 GMT
Tyrone looked a bit like the past with physical play and solid defending. It will be tough for Kerry to break them down. I hope and pray that Kerry win but im not too confident . Tyrone will be tough. kerry better be ready.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 8, 2015 17:59:17 GMT
One of the lads on the WA said we might need Galvin for the war. Another replied:
Galvin won't do it on his own I'd say they'll have to hit the "break in case of emergency" sign on Eamonn Breen's cage.
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Post by fitz on Aug 8, 2015 18:22:13 GMT
They scored 10 points from play, 7 frees and a 45. They are a system. Good spread of scorers, 8, which is impressive. No player scored more than 2 points from play. Counter attacking efficiency. We don't need a war, we need discipline more than anything, diligence and composure in our play. Defend well and get our forwards on ball. The chances will come. I think our football ability will win out then. Patience and persistence required.
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Post by fenit67 on Aug 8, 2015 18:46:30 GMT
Tyrone depend upon breaking quickly from defence but with our attack they won't manage that so easily i.e leaving the likes of J O'D and Paul Geaney unattended, which may turn the match into an overly tactical affair. Tyrone will not win midfield which probably means that they will try to keep the game as short as possible however we are very good at forcing teams to play long; Mickey Harte has a problem here. They coped well today but Monaghan made it easy for them as they were very ponderous and never threatened a goal. This will definitely have the meeja in raptures despite the fact that their darlings will have to overcome Mayo.
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Post by keane on Aug 8, 2015 18:53:20 GMT
Tyrone are good at running through the middle which causes us problems.
It'll be a tough game.
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Post by Chinatown on Aug 8, 2015 18:57:33 GMT
Tyrone are good at running through the middle which causes us problems. It'll be a tough game. And the odds now Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 19:14:31 GMT
Tyrone will crowd out midfield and bring everyone behind the ball. Kerry will have to move the ball fast and take scores from distance. Kerry will have to be accurate. That's the key for victory in my opinion. If they go on runs up the field they will run into trouble and give the ball away. Tyrone will be up for Kerry big time. Kerry should be really ready for this. I'm expecting a physical game and some tough defending from tyrone. Tyrone definitely has Kerrys number since '03. That's why i'm worried.
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Post by inchperfect on Aug 8, 2015 19:33:12 GMT
They'll test out James O'Donoghue's shoulder. I wouldn't play him.
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Post by keane on Aug 8, 2015 19:43:48 GMT
I don't worry about us in the physical stakes, our advantage there imo
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Post by southward on Aug 8, 2015 19:52:43 GMT
Tyrone will crowd out midfield and bring everyone behind the ball. Kerry will have to move the ball fast and take scores from distance. Kerry will have to be accurate. That's the key for victory in my opinion. If they go on runs up the field they will run into trouble and give the ball away. Tyrone will be up for Kerry big time. Kerry should be really ready for this. I'm expecting a physical game and some tough defending from tyrone. Tyrone definitely has Kerrys number since '03. That's why i'm worried.With respect, they have in their arse. It's a long time now since Kerry feared Tyrone. Granted, they looked solid enough today but as semi-finalists go, I'd have them over Dublin or Mayo any day. Tyrone have a decent system and make the best use of a mostly ordinary bunch of players, but that's about it.
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Post by colinsworth1 on Aug 8, 2015 20:01:23 GMT
I agree with Fitzwop. No need to over think this one We don't need to get sucked in to a tight short game Full of cynicism We need to play our game keep it flowing and use a variety of high and low and fast and direct that's our strength lets play to our strengths And keep our discipline we lll do just. Fine
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Post by KY50 on Aug 8, 2015 20:03:49 GMT
Tyrone - super fitness levels, powerful running through the middle, younger players have success at U21 level, they can create and take scores, tactically very astute.We underestimated them in 03,05 and 08, look what happened each time. Kerry performances so far will not be good enough to beat them.
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Post by southward on Aug 8, 2015 20:06:18 GMT
Tyrone - super fitness levels, powerful running through the middle, younger players have success at U21 level, they can create and take scores, tactically very astute.We underestimated them in 03,05 and 08, look what happened each time. Kerry performances so far will not be good enough to beat them.Well I think if we score 7-16 again, we just might shade it.
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Post by inchperfect on Aug 8, 2015 20:15:04 GMT
Tyrone - super fitness levels, powerful running through the middle, younger players have success at U21 level, they can create and take scores, tactically very astute.We underestimated them in 03,05 and 08, look what happened each time. Kerry performances so far will not be good enough to beat them.Poor attempt at cute-hooring
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Post by wayupnorth on Aug 8, 2015 20:23:33 GMT
Got a text after the match today: "Kerry have a poor record against Tyrone in Croke Park" Reply: "Not before 2003 and not with this Kerry team!"
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Post by KY50 on Aug 8, 2015 20:24:12 GMT
inchperfect - Just stating facts
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Post by fg on Aug 8, 2015 20:26:53 GMT
I'm astounded at the negativity by some posters on here, thank god our team wont have the same mind set or they will be cacking themselves, 2008 is a long time ago, 2005 and 2003 even longer, if Kerry can't get over Tyrone and may I say it will be one hell of a battle then we should have no aspirations for September. Dublin and Mayo in my opinion are far superior to Tyrone, of course they have a tactical genius in Harte but we don't do too badly with our own tactical genius plus we have a team that are far more advanced than this Tyrone team.
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Post by KY50 on Aug 8, 2015 20:30:39 GMT
FG - Agree with what most of what you are saying.Tyrone are building nicely through the qualifiers and played well within themselves today.
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Post by fg on Aug 8, 2015 20:44:20 GMT
The key KY50 will be to unlock their defence, to press up on their short kickouts, to stop their runners at source coming down the middle and to continue to vary our style of attack through out the game and keep switching our forwards, we know from experience that Harte can throw in a surprise, like he did In snuffing out the twin towers in 2008 with the mcmahons. I think Eamon might have a trick or two up his own sleeve, it should make for a fascinating contest, It's what Kerry need and a chance to finally bury a demon in croke park.
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Post by fenit67 on Aug 8, 2015 20:56:49 GMT
Today saw the demise of both Ulster finalists as they surrendered rather tamely in their respective matches. Tyrone have had a run of matches against mediocre opposition, Monaghan included. This Tyrone team does not have the calibre of player that they had in the past especially in defence. In the forwards they have some good players but much of their drive today came from Donnelly at midfield. McCann should be ashamed and Duffy equally for that red card. The danger for Kerry is the Tyrone tendancy to go to ground far too easily and a gullible referee will reward that behaviour so our defenders will need to police the parish but carefully. Their forwards scored 4 points from play which is not great and 10 in total from play.
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Post by Chinatown on Aug 8, 2015 20:59:05 GMT
The key KY50 will be to unlock their defence, to press up on their short kickouts, to stop their runners at source coming down the middle and to continue to vary our style of attack through out the game and keep switching our forwards, we know from experience that Harte can throw in a surprise, like he did In snuffing out the twin towers in 2008 with the mcmahons. I think Eamon might have a trick or two up his own sleeve, it should make for a fascinating contest, It's what Kerry need and a chance to finally bury a demon in croke park. Absolutely perfect preparation if we want to lay stake to go further.
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Post by fg on Aug 8, 2015 21:07:32 GMT
Today saw the demise of both Ulster finalists as they surrendered rather tamely in their respective matches. Tyrone have had a run of matches against mediocre opposition, Monaghan included. This Tyrone team does not have the calibre of player that they had in the past especially in defence. In the forwards they have some good players but much of their drive today came from Donnelly at midfield. McCann should be ashamed and Duffy equally for that red card. The danger for Kerry is the Tyrone tendancy to go to ground far too easily and a gullible referee will reward that behaviour so our defenders will need to police the parish but carefully. Their forwards scored 4 points from play which is not great and 10 in total from play. It would be fair to say they will have their card well and truly marked today.
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Post by sullyschoice on Aug 8, 2015 21:08:12 GMT
I personally can not wait for this game. I would have expected a tougher challenge from Monaghan, but they were very poor today.
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Post by inchperfect on Aug 8, 2015 21:18:39 GMT
I like how it's worked out for us this year, being on the easier side of the draw, and then also having our quarter final a week earlier than Tyrone's giving Fitzmaurice a chance to go to Croke Park and scout them knowing we're already in the semi about to play them. Will be the case again if we get past Tyrone we will be able to scout Mayo/Dublin the week after knowing we're already in the final. It's all worked out conveniently.
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Post by Kingdomson on Aug 8, 2015 21:24:06 GMT
The key KY50 will be to unlock their defence, to press up on their short kickouts, to stop their runners at source coming down the middle and to continue to vary our style of attack through out the game and keep switching our forwards, we know from experience that Harte can throw in a surprise, like he did In snuffing out the twin towers in 2008 with the mcmahons. I think Eamon might have a trick or two up his own sleeve, it should make for a fascinating contest, It's what Kerry need and a chance to finally bury a demon in croke park. Burying a demon for me would be finally seeing Kerry beat Down in a Championship match. We've never done it and it currently stands 5-0 at the moment. One for another day! We've beaten Tyrone before in Croke Park and we beat them last time we met in the Championship. Moreover, at the end of the day, would Kerry supporters be happy with beating Tyrone again in Croke Park but not winning the All Ireland? Of course not, in Kerry, the bottom line is always September - we're greedy animals like that. This semi-final does make for a fascinating tactical contest and one Eamon will relish planning for. One thing, I've been really impressed with under Eamon's stewardship is Kerry's mental toughness and the heart shown by our players in high pressure games. Those titanic struggles with Mayo last year tested our squad to the very core and when the challenge has been presented we've responded with great courage. I'm sure Eamon will have the lads properly primed for the Tyrone challenge and be ready for whatever they throw at us. Hopefully, it will be enough.
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Post by veteran on Aug 8, 2015 21:25:24 GMT
Discipline will be the key. If we allow ourselves to be dragged into a dogfight it will be a case of goodnight Irene.
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Post by southward on Aug 8, 2015 21:29:03 GMT
Stopping he runs from deep by Donnelly and McCann looks like the thing to do. We could try nicking the latter's hair gel from the dressing room beforehand - bound to upset his game, that.
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Post by fg on Aug 8, 2015 21:37:12 GMT
The key KY50 will be to unlock their defence, to press up on their short kickouts, to stop their runners at source coming down the middle and to continue to vary our style of attack through out the game and keep switching our forwards, we know from experience that Harte can throw in a surprise, like he did In snuffing out the twin towers in 2008 with the mcmahons. I think Eamon might have a trick or two up his own sleeve, it should make for a fascinating contest, It's what Kerry need and a chance to finally bury a demon in croke park. Burying a demon for me would be finally seeing Kerry beat Down in a Championship match. We've never done it and it currently stands 5-0 at the moment. One for another day! We've beaten Tyrone before in Croke Park and we beat them last time we met in the Championship. Moreover, at the end of the day, would Kerry supporters be happy with beating Tyrone again in Croke Park but not winning the All Ireland? Of course not, in Kerry, the bottom line is always September - we're greedy animals like that. This semi-final does make for a fascinating tactical contest and one Eamon will relish planning for. On thing, I've been really impressed with under Eamon's stewardship is Kerry's mental toughness and the heart shown by our players in high pressure games. Those titanic struggles with Mayo last year tested our squad to the very core and when the challenge has been presented we've responded with great courage. I'm sure Eamon will have the lads properly primed for the Tyrone challenge and be ready for whatever they throw at us. Hopefully, it will be enough. I probably should have further qualified that statement about demons, I should have said as per the media as pre 2003 does not exist in their eyes and also the win in the Fitzgerald stadium does not count, they feel they have a voodoo sign over us in Croke park.
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Post by tyroneperson on Aug 8, 2015 21:43:56 GMT
Burying a demon for me would be finally seeing Kerry beat Down in a Championship match. We've never done it and it currently stands 5-0 at the moment. One for another day! We've beaten Tyrone before in Croke Park and we beat them last time we met in the Championship. Moreover, at the end of the day, would Kerry supporters be happy with beating Tyrone again in Croke Park but not winning the All Ireland? Of course not, in Kerry, the bottom line is always September - we're greedy animals like that. This semi-final does make for a fascinating tactical contest and one Eamon will relish planning for. On thing, I've been really impressed with under Eamon's stewardship is Kerry's mental toughness and the heart shown by our players in high pressure games. Those titanic struggles with Mayo last year tested our squad to the very core and when the challenge has been presented we've responded with great courage. I'm sure Eamon will have the lads properly primed for the Tyrone challenge and be ready for whatever they throw at us. Hopefully, it will be enough. I probably should have further qualified that statement about demons, I should have said as per the media as pre 2003 does not exist in their eyes and also the win in the Fitzgerald stadium does not count, they feel they have a voodoo sign over us in Croke park. We don't really think we have any sort of voodoo sign over Kerry at Croke Park or anywhere else, we just had a bloody good team at the time (as did Kerry). Anyway it should be a great occasion.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 21:47:08 GMT
Tyrone will crowd out midfield and bring everyone behind the ball. Kerry will have to move the ball fast and take scores from distance. Kerry will have to be accurate. That's the key for victory in my opinion. If they go on runs up the field they will run into trouble and give the ball away. Tyrone will be up for Kerry big time. Kerry should be really ready for this. I'm expecting a physical game and some tough defending from tyrone. Tyrone definitely has Kerrys number since '03. That's why i'm worried.With respect, they have in their arse. It's a long time now since Kerry feared Tyrone. Granted, they looked solid enough today but as semi-finalists go, I'd have them over Dublin or Mayo any day. Tyrone have a decent system and make the best use of a mostly ordinary bunch of players, but that's about it. With respect yes they have . They beat us in 2 All Irelands and a semi Final. And Kerry had better players back then in my opinion. So I will back up my Comment.
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