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Post by haryegsnbaken on Jul 25, 2015 20:49:53 GMT
kildares performance tonight should focus the minds.
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Post by asithappens on Jul 25, 2015 21:00:47 GMT
Match Betting: 1/7 Kerry 14/1 A Draw 6/1 Kildare
Handicap Betting: Kerry (-6) 10/11 H-Cap Draw (-6) 11/1 Kildare (+6) Evens
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Post by inchperfect on Jul 25, 2015 21:15:43 GMT
Kildare are a bit of an unknown quantity but hopefully Éamonn will have them down to a T.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2015 21:26:09 GMT
This could be trick this game. It's so hard to judge Kildare. Every year you expect them to put it up to Dublin but they always fail. I think Kildare are just as surprised as the rest of the Country by this performance. They showed great fight and heart. Dominated midfield and looked a lot fitter. It's hard to know what Kildare will turn up next week. I hope it's not like 1998. The Semi Final. Kerry were All Ireland Champions and everyone expected them to win but Kildare beat them but lost to Galway in the Final. It's a similar situation Kerry are Champions and will be Favorites. They will have to up their game for this one big time.
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Post by norman on Jul 25, 2015 21:28:38 GMT
Very good performance today from Kildare,played with an intensity that blew away Cork. No doubt we will be have to be on our toe's next week and not fall asleep like we did against Cork in the first game.
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Post by skybluezone on Jul 25, 2015 21:36:35 GMT
This could be trick this game. It's so hard to judge Kildare. Every year you expect them to put it up to Dublin but they always fail. I think Kildare are just as surprised as the rest of the Country by this performance. They showed great fight and heart. Dominated midfield and looked a lot fitter. It's hard to know what Kildare will turn up next week. I hope it's not like 1998. The Semi Final. Kerry were All Ireland Champions and everyone expected them to win but Kildare beat them but lost to Galway in the Final. It's a similar situation Kerry are Champions and will be Favorites. They will have to up their game for this one big time. Ah come on lads, enough of the yerra. Kildare are poor. Full stop. You'll bate them out the gate. Actually no you'll beat them by about the spread in that cute Kerry trademark style. At least two of the big guns heading into the semis possibly undercooked, with all due respect to Kildare and Fermanagh.
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Post by misteallaigh abú on Jul 25, 2015 21:40:29 GMT
A lot fell Kikdare's way this evening. The 6 day turnaround,the loss of Paddy Kelly, Alan o Connor and Loughrey departing the scene so early and the leadership they provide was sorely missed. Also, Cork probably assumed that they would get over Kildare without too much fuss.
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Post by misteallaigh abú on Jul 25, 2015 21:42:58 GMT
This could be trick this game. It's so hard to judge Kildare. Every year you expect them to put it up to Dublin but they always fail. I think Kildare are just as surprised as the rest of the Country by this performance. They showed great fight and heart. Dominated midfield and looked a lot fitter. It's hard to know what Kildare will turn up next week. I hope it's not like 1998. The Semi Final. Kerry were All Ireland Champions and everyone expected them to win but Kildare beat them but lost to Galway in the Final. It's a similar situation Kerry are Champions and will be Favorites. They will have to up their game for this one big time. Ah come on lads, enough of the yerra. Kildare are poor. Full stop. You'll bate them out the gate. Actually no you'll beat them by about the spread in that cute Kerry trademark style. At least two of the big guns heading into the semis possibly undercooked, with all due respect to Kildare and Fermanagh. You come out with the same tripe every time,change the record. If you want to listen to yerra just listen to your own manager and his pre match interviews before Westmeath and Kildare. "We realise the enormity of the challenge facing us." Laughable stuff.
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Post by fitz on Jul 25, 2015 22:03:17 GMT
Kildare are on a run and Niall Kelly is a tidy player, but fcuk it they are sh1te when the fat's in the fire. They beat a team that blew their head gasket 3 weeks ago, and lost their strongest player to hopefully not a cruciate in first half.
We'll need to be tuned in definitely but we need to beating these lads by 7-8 points. They were relegated to Div 3 ffs.
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Post by greengold35 on Jul 25, 2015 22:14:29 GMT
Having listened to Cuthbert last week in the aftermath of Cork's defeat one would have been forgiven for thinking that hei might not turn up to game himself tonight- he was totally down, not looking forward to it and portrayed a defeatist attitude that was hard to credit- he needed to be positive and hard as it must have been it looked like he had already thrown in the towel- must have been hard to convince the players that he believed in them since. The 6 day turn around leaves teams vulnerable but surely Cork were capable of better!
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Post by Hicser on Jul 25, 2015 22:28:59 GMT
Cork were awful, each individual players lack of confidence was pitiful to see. I'm afraid the management are accountable here, I wouldn't be surprised if Cuthbert is gone. Kildare will focus the mind for Kerry, it will take a 70 minute display to beat them, they look a different side to the one that Dublin defeated.
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Post by skybluezone on Jul 25, 2015 23:59:43 GMT
Ah come on lads, enough of the yerra. Kildare are poor. Full stop. You'll bate them out the gate. Actually no you'll beat them by about the spread in that cute Kerry trademark style. At least two of the big guns heading into the semis possibly undercooked, with all due respect to Kildare and Fermanagh. You come out with the same tripe every time,change the record. If you want to listen to yerra just listen to your own manager and his pre match interviews before Westmeath and Kildare. "We realise the enormity of the challenge facing us." Laughable stuff. Give over. Kildare wont get near your lads, and everyone on this board knows it. And the reason is that Kildare are average at best, relegated to Div 3, going in against the Champions. Yes your right about Gavin, painful stuff, but the dogs in the street knew what those outcomes would be. The same as Eamonn Fitz knows but he wont be broadcasting it in public.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Jul 26, 2015 0:33:45 GMT
Just put a tidy sum on Kerry to beat the spread. I dont get the talking up of Kildare. I think they are a terrible team to be honest. They have a few good players but, I dont rate Jason Ryan as a manager. He had one flash in the pan season with Wexford and has been living of it ever since.
They were so tactically naive against Dublin it was embarrassing to watch at times. I would nearly guess Eamonn will go man to man in defence again as he doesn't want to give the video analysts too much food for thought for later in the year. It might not sit well with most Kerry supporters where we are happy to play the poor mouth. But we should hammer Kildare.
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Post by baurtregaum on Jul 26, 2015 7:58:46 GMT
Kildare are on a run and Niall Kelly is a tidy player, but fcuk it they are sh1te when the fat's in the fire. They beat a team that blew their head gasket 3 weeks ago, and lost their strongest player to hopefully not a cruciate in first half. We'll need to be tuned in definitely but we need to beating these lads by 7-8 points. They were relegated to Div 3 ffs. Agree 100%. Most people on this forum have never rated Kildare, relegated 2 years on the bounce. They have some good players, from listening to last nights game on the radio it seemed that the likes of Cribben played very well. I would play this man to man and trust The players to get the job done on the day. That said a tight enough margin in the end would be no harm and dampen expectations.
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Post by donegalman on Jul 26, 2015 10:18:50 GMT
i expected kildare to do well last night and equally expected cork to be poor. didnt expect the margins to be like that while i expect kerry to win, it will be a much tougher game than it is going to be on paper.
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Post by Chinatown on Jul 26, 2015 13:03:47 GMT
Kerry 1-7 and Dublin 1-200, crazy odds?
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 26, 2015 13:21:13 GMT
This tie will exercise the minds all the same. Playing a defensive Fermanagh with Monaghan and Tyrone on the horizon might not have been a bad thing. Looking forward to this game all the same.
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Post by seaniebo on Jul 26, 2015 16:17:03 GMT
This tie will exercise the minds all the same. Playing a defensive Fermanagh with Monaghan and Tyrone on the horizon might not have been a bad thing. Looking forward to this game all the same. You'd imagine Kildare will adopt a defensive strategy in this one. Should be a decent enough challenge.
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 26, 2015 16:50:13 GMT
This tie will exercise the minds all the same. Playing a defensive Fermanagh with Monaghan and Tyrone on the horizon might not have been a bad thing. Looking forward to this game all the same. You'd imagine Kildare will adopt a defensive strategy in this one. Should be a decent enough challenge. Kildare won't be overly defensive, if at all.
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Post by glengael on Jul 26, 2015 17:05:20 GMT
A lot fell Kikdare's way this evening. The 6 day turnaround,the loss of Paddy Kelly, Alan o Connor and Loughrey departing the scene so early and the leadership they provide was sorely missed. Also, Cork probably assumed that they would get over Kildare without too much fuss. It wasn't a 6 day turnaround. Cork lost the Munster Final on Sat night which was 7 days before last night's match. C103 were reporting that as Brian Cuthbert was appointed for 2 years, his term is now up. Newstalk were reporting that Eamon was at Westmeath v Fermanagh game last night, although I'm sure there was someone in Thurles as well. Assumptions aren't very useful things now are they.... One hopes the lesson re assumptions was learned by this team on July 5th.
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 26, 2015 18:53:09 GMT
This could be trick this game. It's so hard to judge Kildare. Every year you expect them to put it up to Dublin but they always fail. I think Kildare are just as surprised as the rest of the Country by this performance. They showed great fight and heart. Dominated midfield and looked a lot fitter. It's hard to know what Kildare will turn up next week. I hope it's not like 1998. The Semi Final. Kerry were All Ireland Champions and everyone expected them to win but Kildare beat them but lost to Galway in the Final. It's a similar situation Kerry are Champions and will be Favorites. They will have to up their game for this one big time. Ah come on lads, enough of the yerra. Kildare are poor. Full stop. You'll bate them out the gate. Actually no you'll beat them by about the spread in that cute Kerry trademark style. At least two of the big guns heading into the semis possibly undercooked, with all due respect to Kildare and Fermanagh. That's the type of arrogant mentality that saw Dublin having their arses handed to them by Donegal in 2014.
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 26, 2015 18:57:28 GMT
My views on this game are;
Kerry are better than Kildare when both play to potential
Kildare may well be flat next Sunday after the big win against Cork
Kerry have been the most consistent team in Ireland since the league started.. a good performance followed up by a poor performance. On this basis, Kerry will be poor against Kildare.
Will a poor Kerry performance be enough to beat Kildare?
Probably... but remember 2010 v Down
That's how I see it.
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Post by KY50 on Jul 26, 2015 18:59:54 GMT
Agree with Mickmack re arrogant mentality - it cost Dublin and will cost us if we let it
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Post by skybluezone on Jul 26, 2015 19:27:41 GMT
Ah come on lads, enough of the yerra. Kildare are poor. Full stop. You'll bate them out the gate. Actually no you'll beat them by about the spread in that cute Kerry trademark style. At least two of the big guns heading into the semis possibly undercooked, with all due respect to Kildare and Fermanagh. That's the type of arrogant mentality that saw Dublin having their arses handed to them by Donegal in 2014. Since when did Fermanagh become Donegal?? Different propositions altogether, it was well flagged beforehand that if anyone could do a job on Dublin it would be Donegal. If Fermanagh beat Dublin I will be gobsmacked. I was fairly peed off after last years semi but it wasn't exactly a David v Goliath moment...
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Post by fitz on Jul 26, 2015 19:28:43 GMT
My views on this game are; Kerry are better than Kildare when both play to potential Kildare may well be flat next Sunday after the big win against Cork Kerry have been the most consistent team in Ireland since the league started.. a good performance followed up by a poor performance. On this basis, Kerry will be poor against Kildare. Will a poor Kerry performance be enough to beat Kildare? Probably... but remember 2010 v Down That's how I see it. Cork are an average side with a couple of good players, I thought and said we'd win handy the first day and was wrong on the day, Cork max'd out and we were pretty poor and lucky. We won comfortably in the replay. There will be no complacency. The line got their fright the first day well. This is a poor Kildare team, much more so in my view than their 2010 team that Down pipped. That was a decent Down side, 1 year wonders. Kildare winning a couple of qualifiers again Div 3/4 teams and against a crestfallen Cork, who lost their comeback king and fear laidir to hopefully not career ending injury means they'll come with some gusto and hitting hard etc for the guts of the first half, maybe. We'll put the choke on them and squeeze the life out of them in the second half. They'll fold their tent once they look to the sideline and see nothing sitting down or standing up that will help them. Like Cork they're crippled mentally from beatings.
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 26, 2015 21:15:21 GMT
My views on this game are; Kerry are better than Kildare when both play to potential Kildare may well be flat next Sunday after the big win against Cork Kerry have been the most consistent team in Ireland since the league started.. a good performance followed up by a poor performance. On this basis, Kerry will be poor against Kildare. Will a poor Kerry performance be enough to beat Kildare? Probably... but remember 2010 v Down That's how I see it. Cork are an average side with a couple of good players, I thought and said we'd win handy the first day and was wrong on the day, Cork max'd out and we were pretty poor and lucky. We won comfortably in the replay. There will be no complacency. The line got their fright the first day well. This is a poor Kildare team, much more so in my view than their 2010 team that Down pipped. That was a decent Down side, 1 year wonders. Kildare winning a couple of qualifiers again Div 3/4 teams and against a crestfallen Cork, who lost their comeback king and fear laidir to hopefully not career ending injury means they'll come with some gusto and hitting hard etc for the guts of the first half, maybe. We'll put the choke on them and squeeze the life out of them in the second half. They'll fold their tent once they look to the sideline and see nothing sitting down or standing up that will help them. Like Cork they're crippled mentally from beatings. Looking through the Kildare team sheet they are much changed from McGeeney's time. Crippled mentally from beating doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
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Post by G_S_J on Jul 26, 2015 22:25:01 GMT
How does history stand on this fixture? The only two I can remember are the 98 sem-final, Micko v Paidi and the 2002 qualifier in Thurles, when Eoin Brosnan, did a bit of Maradona and ran from midfield to get a goal.
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Post by fitz on Jul 26, 2015 22:27:27 GMT
Relegation in successive seasons under the current manager and a flogging from Dublin in this and last year's Leinster championship. How much more scrutiny is required?
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 26, 2015 22:30:43 GMT
A Kildare team in transition gets relegated. A Kerry team in transition can still win the All Ireland.
Kildare are coming out of their transition. They are at about where they were in 2008 in my view
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Post by sullyschoice on Jul 26, 2015 22:33:13 GMT
We should be winning this quite comfortably if we play to our potential. Kildare have some decent players but we are much more adbanced than them. Win midfield and we have the game in the bag
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