kerry second 15 , who would make a kerry b team

[jd1]

lets just see how strong a kerry second team would be , who would you have on your team if kerry were allowed to enter 2 teams in the senior championship. any player who started the final is ineligible

[homerj]

Hmm, let me see, backs is dodgy, so would have to bring back fitzmaurice and guiney, im pretty sure they would play, if they were guarnateed first team football, which in this case they would! forwards and midfield is formidable, as good as most first teams!!

cremin

mossy lyons _ guiney_ luke Quinn

R flaherty _ Eamon Fitzmaurice _ Daniel Bohane

Tommy Griffan _ Michael Quirke

Sean Sullivan _ Darran Sullivan _ Ronan Hussey

Declan Quill _ Tommy Walsh _ Mike Frank Russell

[Tackle Hard]

cremin is not up 2 the standard at all so he shouldnt be considered! defensively fitzmaurice wud have 2 come back he is a class footballer! alot of the kerry panelists who are defenders again arent great. midfield and forwards are strong tho.

My team:
Kealy(Kilcummin)

Lyons(Desmonds) Flathartha(Gaeltacht) Moloney(Crokes)

Griffin(Dingle) Fitzmaurice(Finuge) Bohane(Stacks)

Walsh(Cromane) Quirke(Rahillys)

Sullivan(Glenbeigh/Glencarr) Sullivan(Cromane) Moran(Rahillys)

Quill(Rahillys) Walsh(Rahillys) Russell(Laune Rangers)

[bob567]

Kealy(Kilcummin)

Guiney(Emmets) Flathartha(Gaeltacht) Quirke(Duagh)

Lyons(Desmomds) Fitzmaurice(Finuge) King(Beale)

Griffin(Dingle) Maher(Duagh)

Sullivan(Glenbeigh/Glencarr) Sullivan(Cromane) Moran(Rahillys)

Quill(Rahillys) Walsh(Rahillys) Russell(Laune Rangers)

[diehard]

how good is cremin really i haven't seen a lot of him is realistically going to take over from Diarmuid Murphy. He looks a little heavy.

[falveyb2k]

Cremin is getting a raw deal from some people here, anytime he's played in the league for Kerry he's done well. I can even remember him saving a few penalties plus he doesn't look out of place at training either. When Murphy goes though Kelay will probably come into the panel

[madmac999]

I don;t know I d prefer Cremin to Kealy.. Cremin more solid and reliable I think.

[Walter Mitty]

cremin

mossy lyons __ luke Quinn_ guiney

R flaherty _ Eamon Fitzmaurice _ Jimmy Moloney

Tommy Griffan _ Michael Quirke

Sean Sullivan _ M Corridan _ Darran Sullivan

Declan Quill _ Tommy Walsh _ Mike Frank Russell

[hammer]

i wouldnt pick the team based on just the kerry subs heres mine
kealy
adrian o connell
luke quinn
ronan o fla
bohane
eamonn fitz
guiney
t griffin
t walsh
s sullivan
p addy curran
do sullivan
mfr
paul o connor
ronan hussey

[shannonsider]

bob567 said:

Kealy(Kilcummin)

Guiney(Emmets) Flathartha(Gaeltacht) Quirke(Duagh)

Lyons(Desmomds) Fitzmaurice(Finuge) King(Beale)

Griffin(Dingle) Maher(Duagh)

Sullivan(Glenbeigh/Glencarr) Sullivan(Cromane) Moran(Rahillys)

Quill(Rahillys) Walsh(Rahillys) Russell(Laune Rangers)

Bit of North Kerry bias there Bob??
Jeremy King is a good player, but not that good. He did ok for the juniors last year, thats his level. As for the 2 Duagh boys, well Maher is improving and could possibly have a cut off it in a few years, but he hasnt worn the Kerry jersey since minors of 2004, so long way off yet. Quirke isnt up to that standard. Seeing as how you put a North Kerry slant on it, did you consider Donnacha Enright from Tarbert as goalie? He wouldnt be far off IMO.

[Piggy]

Quirke is definetly up to the standard, anytime ive seen him play he's looked a class apart on the field.

[bob567]

shannonsider said:

bob567 said:

Kealy(Kilcummin)

Guiney(Emmets) Flathartha(Gaeltacht) Quirke(Duagh)

Lyons(Desmomds) Fitzmaurice(Finuge) King(Beale)

Griffin(Dingle) Maher(Duagh)

Sullivan(Glenbeigh/Glencarr) Sullivan(Cromane) Moran(Rahillys)

Quill(Rahillys) Walsh(Rahillys) Russell(Laune Rangers)

Bit of North Kerry bias there Bob??
Jeremy King is a good player, but not that good. He did ok for the juniors last year, thats his level. As for the 2 Duagh boys, well Maher is improving and could possibly have a cut off it in a few years, but he hasnt worn the Kerry jersey since minors of 2004, so long way off yet. Quirke isnt up to that standard. Seeing as how you put a North Kerry slant on it, did you consider Donnacha Enright from Tarbert as goalie? He wouldnt be far off IMO.

i said i would be a bit bias alright.
Bunny??? i think he is a very long way off, he is awful dodgy imo

[jd1]

donnacha enright would be a cert, class keeper , possible senior keeper if he got the chance

[bob567]

shannonsider said:

bob567 said:

Kealy(Kilcummin)

Guiney(Emmets) Flathartha(Gaeltacht) Quirke(Duagh)

Lyons(Desmomds) Fitzmaurice(Finuge) King(Beale)

Griffin(Dingle) Maher(Duagh)

Sullivan(Glenbeigh/Glencarr) Sullivan(Cromane) Moran(Rahillys)

Quill(Rahillys) Walsh(Rahillys) Russell(Laune Rangers)

Jeremy King is a good player, but not that good. He did ok for the juniors last year, thats his level. As for the 2 Duagh boys, well Maher is improving and could possibly have a cut off it in a few years, but he hasnt worn the Kerry jersey since minors of 2004, so long way off yet. Quirke isnt up to that standard.

i think king is as good as bohane and if he was trainin with the kerry team he would def be as good as him. Quirke is a top quality defender, great man marker and a very handy ball player. Maher played for the kerry u21's in 2006 and maybe even 2005(not too sure tho), he would def have been startin midfield for u21 this year, if he was they would have gone alot further i can assure u of that

[Attacking Wing Back]

to be honest i dont really rate cremin either. Think twas i the county championship a few years ago when the croke played laune rangers i went to watch him Thought he was very poor. Think hes dodgy enough under the high ball and his kickouts arent great either. he always looks ok when he plays for kerry but only ok. Wouldnt have great confidence in him to be honest

[watchdehop]

To those who are doubting Cremin why do ye think Jack O'Connor and now Pat O'Shea are picking him?

Jack O'Connor's selection team included Johnny Culloty and I think he would know a fair bit more about goalkeeping than most of the punters on here.

In Crokes run to the AI club championship I think the first goal he conceded was not untill the final replay.

I have seen Cremin play many times and think he is a fine keeper.

A lot of the guys that are commenting here seem to have seen him once and can only come up with "don't like the look of him" as a reason to exclude him. Thank god these guys aren't picking the Kerry team and panel!!

[JOAN]

Both Kealy and cremins are good goalies.As for Bunny his is a ledgend.....
What about the following players who played minor and some have gone on to u21..
Mac n soire,sayers, Barry John, Buckley, Curran, Enright,O Sullivan Fairies (now there is a great goalie) Stam, socky. Just to name a few
Where do all these players fit in the mix. Kerrys future is solid if players like this are to stay involved and want it bad enough. Tons and tons of talented players.

[bob567]

watchdehop said:

To those who are doubting Cremin why do ye think Jack O'Connor and now Pat O'Shea are picking him?

Jack O'Connor's selection team included Johnny Culloty and I think he would know a fair bit more about goalkeeping than most of the punters on here.

In Crokes run to the AI club championship I think the first goal he conceded was not untill the final replay.

I have seen Cremin play many times and think he is a fine keeper.

A lot of the guys that are commenting here seem to have seen him once and can only come up with "don't like the look of him" as a reason to exclude him. Thank god these guys aren't picking the Kerry team and panel!!

well said he has not been there under two managers for nothin
i have gone for kealy in some threads but that is because i have seen alot of him and none of cremin, so i and alot of others cant comment on him till we have seen a fair bit of him.

[63587614]

Don't rate P Curran lad. Over-hyped, too slow for senior intercounty level. Paddy Kelly deserves a mention in there. D Moran I think is future blue chip player for Kerry. Mike Quirke also deserves his look, was unlucky this yr to lose his place to an industrious player and huge work rate Seamus Scanlon.

[bob567]

63587614 said:

Don't rate P Curran lad. Over-hyped, too slow for senior intercounty level.

Paddy is an undoubted talent with bags of football, and by no means is he slow. have u ever played against him??
he was the best minor in the country last year, he will def make it at senior level if he stays with it

[bigfoot]

first of all the reason cremin never gets showed up in the league is that he has the best defensive unit in ireland in front of him. tom marc and reidy rarely let men get in for goal chances. secondly(mad mac) the reason cremin looks so solid is that he is a few stone overweight. he is definetly not the best goal keeper in kerry(aside from murphy).

[JOAN]

Paddy curran will be a force for Kerry. He is young with tons of football. He will continue to learn. I watched him play in NY this summer and he can certainlly hold his own...

[hammer]

63587614 said:

Don't rate P Curran lad. Over-hyped, too slow for senior intercounty level. Paddy Kelly deserves a mention in there. D Moran I think is future blue chip player for Kerry. Mike Quirke also deserves his look, was unlucky this yr to lose his place to an industrious player and huge work rate Seamus Scanlon.

for someone to call paddy curran slow obviously knows little about him
hes probably the closest thing at that age to maurice this county has produced in the last twenty years
left, right he can score with either boot
hes very strong too by the way

[shannonsider]

bob567 said:

shannonsider said:

Jeremy King is a good player, but not that good. He did ok for the juniors last year, thats his level. As for the 2 Duagh boys, well Maher is improving and could possibly have a cut off it in a few years, but he hasnt worn the Kerry jersey since minors of 2004, so long way off yet. Quirke isnt up to that standard.

i think king is as good as bohane and if he was trainin with the kerry team he would def be as good as him. Quirke is a top quality defender, great man marker and a very handy ball player. Maher played for the kerry u21's in 2006 and maybe even 2005(not too sure tho), he would def have been startin midfield for u21 this year, if he was they would have gone alot further i can assure u of that

Bob,Quirke is a good player yes, but I just don't think he's good enough for that level...but if he gets a shot at it and proves me wrong, good luck to him. Maher would have been midfield for u-21's this year, yes...he wasnt playing last year i'm sure (on panel maybe). I agree with what u say about Jeremy King/Bohane...if Bohane wasnt from stacks would he be on the panel? Bunny's only problem is losin the head a bit at times...ability wise, he's head and shoulders above anyone else apart from Murphy IMO...he has played Minor, u-21 and Junior for Kerry...not playing in goals for Tarbert at the mo, so prob not goin to get a shot anyway.

[scooter]

lads jeremy king or donnacha enright will never play for kerry at the top level...simply coz they aint good enough...enright was a brilliant keeper but u cannot count him as a keeper these days as he plays out field for his club...king is a good club player and even at dat i ave seen in games for beale where he has been anonymous...and even for shannon rangers this year he was well beaten in all their games...lads the future of kerry football does not lie with the lakes of these players...players like Curran, the Walsh bros rahillys, enright from tarbert, moran, curtin from moyvane etc..these are the future of kerry football

[dstar10]

how about declan griffen from feale rangers i saw him playing last sunday and he was excellent d best player on d field

[JOAN]

I dont think Bohane being form Stact is the reason he not playing. Bohane has had the worst luck with injuries. He seems to be very prone to them. He played well enought he few times he played during the league and got the chance to prove himself.

[madmac999]

scooter said:

lads jeremy king or donnacha enright will never play for kerry at the top level...simply coz they aint good enough...enright was a brilliant keeper but u cannot count him as a keeper these days as he plays out field for his club...king is a good club player and even at dat i ave seen in games for beale where he has been anonymous...and even for shannon rangers this year he was well beaten in all their games...lads the future of kerry football does not lie with the lakes of these players...players like Curran, the Walsh bros rahillys, enright from tarbert, moran, curtin from moyvane etc..these are the future of kerry football

Spot on Scooter!! Don't make me laugh Jermey King will never get near the Kerry team... he was ate alive for Shannon Rangers this year in county championship... I know Shannon Rangers were poor all over!! He's was an average player on the Kerry Junior team... Lets not get carried away its grand him playing Junior for Kerry but senior inter county football is different story!! Jeremy King vrs Brian Dooher.... case closed.

[Walter Mitty]

bob567 said:

Kealy(Kilcummin)

Guiney(Emmets) Flathartha(Gaeltacht) Quirke(Duagh)

Lyons(Desmomds) Fitzmaurice(Finuge) King(Beale)

Griffin(Dingle) Maher(Duagh)

Sullivan(Glenbeigh/Glencarr) Sullivan(Cromane) Moran(Rahillys)

Quill(Rahillys) Walsh(Rahillys) Russell(Laune Rangers)

I presume you are joking from a NK element point of view? The 1st of april is a bit away!!

[AnygivenSunday]

Heres mine and alot of players i could not fit in...

Cremin

Mossy Lyons Luke Quinn B. Guiney

R. Flaherty E. Fitz D. Bohane

D. Moran T. Griffin

D. Sullivan T. Kennelly S. Sullivan

Dodge Quill M.F. Russell

not bad give some outsiders a chance