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Post by pillar on May 7, 2015 9:44:55 GMT
Also I'm lead to believe that a player,not from Stacks or Crokes,is playing for his club this weekend.Not a Division 1 team but the player is a certain starter for kerry on June 14th. Not sure if he pleaded to play or if it's a management decision for him to get games under his belt
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2015 11:33:11 GMT
Every player on the Panel should be playing.Games beat Training any day.
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Post by Premier on May 8, 2015 0:21:23 GMT
Credit Union Senior Football League Round 4 – Austin Stacks play Dr Crokes in 2014 Final The meeting of County Champions for the past five years, current champions, Austin Stacks, and their predecessors for four years, Dr Crokes, takes centre stage in the Credit Union Senior Football League this weekend. Their Round 4 clash in Connolly Park doubles up as the Senior League Division 1 final for 2014. To add flavour to the occasion, Dr Crokes are top of the League right now and have made no secret of the fact that they intend to regain their County Championship title this year at the expense of their Tralee hosts. Add in the fact that both sides have a plentiful supply of County players at their disposal and football followers will be in for a treat on Saturday evening We all knew this, it's the other clubs players that everyone is getting hot and bothered about
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on May 8, 2015 10:14:44 GMT
I know everyone is up in arms here but it is a final- if it wasn't then the county players wouldn't be available.
It's a tough situation for eamon and the county board but I think they are making what they feel is the best decision and I'm willing to trust that judgement
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Post by lár na páirce on May 8, 2015 10:22:18 GMT
I know everyone is up in arms here but it is a final- if it wasn't then the county players wouldn't be available. It's a tough situation for eamon and the county board but I think they are making what they feel is the best decision and I'm willing to trust that judgement Yes but it is also a league game,Which is grossly unfair on other Div.1 teams
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Post by woodlawn on May 8, 2015 10:57:06 GMT
I know everyone is up in arms here but it is a final- if it wasn't then the county players wouldn't be available. It's a tough situation for eamon and the county board but I think they are making what they feel is the best decision and I'm willing to trust that judgement Yes but it is also a league game,Which is grossly unfair on other Div.1 teams It is now rumoured which has been alluded to in another post that you will have a situation in another very important Club League game whereby an intercounty player will take the pitch whilst the opposition will have intercounty players watching from the sideline due to not being allowed play. If this is the case it constitutes direct interference in a club competition by the Senior team management which has to be unfair and has to be called by the executive. I hope for all concerned that it just remains a rumour!
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Post by interested on May 8, 2015 12:52:33 GMT
This is ridiculous if some county players are available to play with their clubs and more are not. All players, all clubs should be treated the same. It seems as if the management want exclusive use/control of the players and are creating a situation where the "elite" players can only play with their clubs when allowed. Some might say it's only county league etc but for some clubs these games could have huge implications on how the rest of the year goes. As already mentioned, this is going down the same road as rugby and all the talk about the importance of the club is nothing but patronizing bull****. Time for the county board to stand up for the clubs and non-county players and show that they matter as well.
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Post by buck02 on May 8, 2015 14:14:21 GMT
Two separate issues here.
1 - Stacks and/or Crokes were allowed to call off their County League final last winter. It is very doubtful that other clubs would be afforded the opportunity to call off a COUNTY COMPETITION that could have been played on the first week of December.
2 - Stacks and Crokes can have their county players now this weekend as the 2015 R4 county league game is being doubled up as the 2014 final (5 months after it could have been played) while other clubs are missing their county players for R4.
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Post by lár na páirce on May 8, 2015 14:31:40 GMT
Two separate issues here.1 - Stacks and/or Crokes were allowed to call off their County League final last winter. It is very doubtful that other clubs would be afforded the opportunity to call off a COUNTY COMPETITION that could have been played on the first week of December. 2 - Stacks and Crokes can have their county players now this weekend as the 2015 R4 county league game is being doubled up as the 2014 final (5 months after it could have been played) while other clubs are missing their county players for R4. There is one issue here IMO -Not releasing inter county players to the clubs a full MONTH before the first rd game - This is against rule 6.21 in the official rule book,I don't think any true Kerry gael can stand by a watch the current executive turn a blind eye to this blatant rule breaking
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on May 8, 2015 14:31:59 GMT
But it's not like they are being allow play their county players against other clubs who are being forced to play without county players.
They are both being afforded the same option as its a final! If stacks were allowed their county players against legion who weren't allowed theirs then I could understand the hullabaloo.
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Post by interested on May 8, 2015 14:39:17 GMT
The fact that crokes and stacks will have their county players is irrelevant. All players should be allowed play with their clubs this weekend. The non crokes/stacks county players will problably be training while their clubmates will be playing their match....
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Post by kerrygold on May 8, 2015 14:45:10 GMT
Both are likely to finish one and two in the county league? So does it make much of difference where the points go?
If we are to believe some on here, Crokes are unbeatable this year and are light years ahead of Stacks so this result will not have a bearing on the final league table.
If Stacks pull off the "shock win" and claim the two points an issue might arise later in the year for the third placed team if they lose out in a league final slot by a point or two.
The optics here are questionable however.
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Post by Mickmack on May 8, 2015 16:02:47 GMT
Two separate issues here. 1 - Stacks and/or Crokes were allowed to call off their County League final last winter. It is very doubtful that other clubs would be afforded the opportunity to call off a COUNTY COMPETITION that could have been played on the first week of December. 2 - Stacks and Crokes can have their county players now this weekend as the 2015 R4 county league game is being doubled up as the 2014 final (5 months after it could have been played) while other clubs are missing their county players for R4. why? Why did they both want it called off. On a separate note....time to stop "final" of a league. Let the team on top of the league get the cup
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Post by pillar on May 8, 2015 16:19:04 GMT
There's a game outside Div 1 Final and one club has its county player and the other club hasn't.
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Post by Premier on May 8, 2015 17:07:40 GMT
There's a game outside Div 1 Final and one club has its county player and the other club hasn't. Care to expand?
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Post by classicfc on May 8, 2015 18:04:27 GMT
A few commentators on this forum seem to have a blasè attitude towards what the County Board is seemingly allowing to unfold this weekend. The clubs should be up in arms about this as it is grossly unfair and smacks of elitism. County management teams throughout the land are exercising far too much power over player availability and fixture making. The clubs who are preparing for the County Senior Championship are being hamstrung at the weekend due to the unavailability of their Kerry players and it is just downright wrong. Rathmore and Dingle are suffering a serious injustice in that their direct opponents are playing a high quality game ahead of the Club Championship semi finals with their full compliments whereas they are not. We heard so much 'BS' about this Championship revamp and now they aren't even giving clubs a fair or even equal chance to prepare. Dr Crokes and Austin Stacks should not be receiving preferential treatment over the rest of the clubs in the county. I increasingly despair for the club player as they are simply a footnote in Croke Park's plans for a given year. The Ad's will be trotted out every year before Paddy's Day glorifying the club competitions when they are viewed merely as fillers by the men in the corporate boxes at a lean time of the year. It's high time that the club's began to realise that they are being taken for fools and that unless they take a stance fairly soon decisions such as this one will become common practice. Tipperary our possible opponents should they overcome Waterford at the end of the month played County Championship games during the week. What happens at County Board meetings? Are the delegates merely nodding dogs? Do the players have any voice at all? The long and the short of it is what's going to be allowed happen at the weekend is wrong but there doesn't seem to be the collective will to resist such actions!
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Post by dashboard on May 8, 2015 18:11:09 GMT
Are rathmore and laune ranger's without their county player's tonight
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Post by givehimaball on May 8, 2015 20:00:36 GMT
Are rathmore and laune ranger's without their county player's tonight Rathmore 0-12 Laune Rangers 0-7 FT From twitter
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Post by pillar on May 8, 2015 20:19:22 GMT
So Peter Crowley played just as rumoured.Im assuming this was on the pretense that he needed game time .Wonder could that case be made from any more intercounty players pulled this weekend!!
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Post by dashboard on May 8, 2015 21:20:57 GMT
Is Shane Ryan not on the panel as well I know he's 3rd choice goalie and delighted to see him playing but should the rule not be applied evenly smaller clubs such as cromane who are struggling big time are hit badly by this, could be the difference between relegation and survival for them team's
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Post by shaggy04 on May 8, 2015 22:08:52 GMT
By right stacks and crokes should not have their county players instead play the players who played majority of county league games last year final or not
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2015 9:01:54 GMT
Was at Rathmore v Laune Rangers last. A tighter affair than what the scoreline would suggest. Peter Crowley caused problems for Rathmore down the middle.Marking him was Brendan O Keeffe,who when switched, scored three long range points. An interesting spectator I must say,was young Eamonn Fitzmaurice.
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Post by kerrygold on May 9, 2015 9:21:15 GMT
Was at Rathmore v Laune Rangers last. A tighter affair than what the scoreline would suggest. Peter Crowley caused problems for Rathmore down the middle.Marking him was Brendan O Keeffe,who when switched, scored three long range points. An interesting spectator I must say,was young Eamonn Fitzmaurice. Is that Tom O'Sullivan, former kerry Tom at corner back? Was MFR togged out?
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Post by thechosenone on May 9, 2015 19:29:13 GMT
FT Austin Stacks 1-07 Dr Crokes 0-10
Game gone to extra time. Nightmare for Kerry management.
Shane Carroll with two late points.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2015 20:03:12 GMT
Was at Rathmore v Laune Rangers last. A tighter affair than what the scoreline would suggest. Peter Crowley caused problems for Rathmore down the middle.Marking him was Brendan O Keeffe,who when switched, scored three long range points. An interesting spectator I must say,was young Eamonn Fitzmaurice. Is that Tom O'Sullivan, former kerry Tom at corner back? Was MFR togged out? That is the Tom Sullivan alright.He is operating around Centre back and the full Back line at the moment and is still as classy as ever.Mike Frank was not togged out no. Now that I think of it,it would have been lovely to relive a classic with Tom and Mike Frank marking each other!
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Post by dubkerry on May 9, 2015 21:34:02 GMT
FT Austin Stacks 1-07 Dr Crokes 0-10 Game gone to extra time. Nightmare for Kerry management. Shane Carroll with two late points. Congrats to Austin Stacks 2014 County League Champions, after extra time Austin Stacks 2-9 Dr Crokes 0-13 One downside Daniel Bohan taken to hospital with suspected broken collar bone
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Post by G_S_J on May 9, 2015 21:45:45 GMT
Poor match really, no real flow to it with a lot of niggle.
Shane Carroll is better than the gooch, well he was tonight anyway! Thought Ronan Shanahan, played well also, one of the most underrated players in Kerry.
Stacks restricted Crokes to just three points from play, maybe this Crokes forward line isnt as awesome as some would let on...
One thing I'm amazed by is how much abuse to the ref Stephen Stack gets away with, he gave an exhibition of potty mouthed temper tantrums from the sideline which he routinely stepped over.
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Post by kerrygold on May 9, 2015 22:45:30 GMT
Both are likely to finish one and two in the county league? So does it make much of difference where the points go? If we are to believe some on here, Crokes are unbeatable this year and are light years ahead of Stacks so this result will not have a bearing on the final league table. If Stacks pull off the "shock win" and claim the two points an issue might arise later in the year for the third placed team if they lose out in a league final slot by a point or two. The optics here are questionable however. Delighted Stacks pulled off the "shock win". Well done to them.
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Post by kerrygold on May 9, 2015 22:46:26 GMT
Is that Tom O'Sullivan, former kerry Tom at corner back? Was MFR togged out? That is the Tom Sullivan alright.He is operating around Centre back and the full Back line at the moment and is still as classy as ever.Mike Frank was not togged out no. Now that I think of it,it would have been lovely to relive a classic with Tom and Mike Frank marking each other! Thanks for that, great to hear Tom is back playing.
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Post by Premier on May 10, 2015 15:18:38 GMT
Glenbeigh winning really puts pressure on Bally, it's these surprise wins that give them a chance
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