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Post by Sons of Pitches on Mar 30, 2015 11:38:46 GMT
Did the Gooch line out for Crokes over the weekend?
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Post by hugh20 on Mar 30, 2015 11:41:35 GMT
No he didn't line out and from what I hear it will be 6 weeks or so before he does.
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Post by givehimaball on Mar 30, 2015 13:49:41 GMT
Goals from the Crokes Waterville game - the mistake for the Crokes's 3rd goal is just painful to watch.
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Post by hugh20 on Mar 30, 2015 18:38:30 GMT
No he didn't line out and from what I hear it will be 6 weeks or so before he does. It seems like I was ill informed and Colm has a chance of featuring in omagh in Kerry's final league encounter.
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Post by walker07 on Mar 31, 2015 1:00:30 GMT
Kor 1:20 bally foil 0:04, this game was as one sided as the score line reads played in very windy conditions in strand road, even from the start kor ran threw bally with early scares for bf, bf playing very defensive 12/13 men behind the ball but kor well experience of that stuff dec quill kicking nice frees in the first half In tuff conditions, ht score 11 pts to 3, Coffey for kor was impressive well tbh too hard to judge players as tbh this was very very easy for kor ,there first real test will be legion in the club champ and see where there at, on the other hand bf are in trouble they were out of there depth slow ponderous they do well to stay a div 1 team, I hear bf have crokes in the club champ well best of luck to them
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Post by onlykerry on Mar 31, 2015 11:27:00 GMT
Looking at the county league schedule - it seems crazy that a competition that begins in March takes until October to play 11 games. 11 games over 29 weekends - and clubs regularly play without their intercounty players so this is not the excuse for such protracted scheduling.
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Post by thechosenone on Mar 31, 2015 11:33:15 GMT
Ya its a bit mad alright.
Clubs have a packed 4 months of March April May and June.
Then they are basically off until October for end of club championships and end of county league.
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Post by Premier on Apr 12, 2015 21:39:28 GMT
All the favourites won at the weekend, some unusual heavy beatings though, relegation battle looks to be extremely tight, pretty low score could keep a team up too
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Post by diego on May 5, 2015 21:27:07 GMT
That was a big win for Stacks over Waterville in their back game played at the weekend. 3-14 to 0-4.
Coming after their win in Ardfert it looks they're warming up nicely for last year's county league final.
Going by the fixtures om the main site that final against the Crokes is down for 7pm this Saturday evening in Connolly Park.
Could be a tasty encounter.
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Post by woodlawn on May 6, 2015 10:26:43 GMT
Is there any truth in the rumour that all County players are being pulled from the Co League next weekend bar those playing in the Stacks/Crokes game. If it is true it is very unfair to have some County players allowed to play in round 4 of this years Co League and the majority excluded (not withstanding that the game is doubling up as last years Co League final)
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Post by greengold35 on May 6, 2015 10:49:49 GMT
Is there any truth in the rumour that all County players are being pulled from the Co League next weekend bar those playing in the Stacks/Crokes game. If it is true it is very unfair to have some County players allowed to play in round 4 of this years Co League and the majority excluded (not withstanding that the game is doubling up as last years Co League final) Just heard the same earlier - it's the last chance for some clubs, Legion, Rahillys to have a competitive game with their county players- now gone as Kerry have a training session on Sat!
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Post by woodlawn on May 6, 2015 11:37:03 GMT
Is there any truth in the rumour that all County players are being pulled from the Co League next weekend bar those playing in the Stacks/Crokes game. If it is true it is very unfair to have some County players allowed to play in round 4 of this years Co League and the majority excluded (not withstanding that the game is doubling up as last years Co League final) Just heard the same earlier - it's the last chance for some clubs, Legion, Rahillys to have a competitive game with their county players- now gone as Kerry have a training session on Sat! Am I correct therefore in stating that the last time Rahillys,Foilmore, Laune Rangers and Kilcummin will have had access to their intercounty players in a competitive situation before the first round of the senior championship was on the the weekend of the 18th Apr and Legion on the weekend of 25th Apr, whilst other clubs will have access to their Co players for competitive games up to the week prior to the Co Championship. Surely therefore it is only right to give every club a fair chance and release the players in the clubs mentioned to play in the Co League this weekend, or is it a case in Kerry that all clubs are equal, just some more so than others!!
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Post by buck02 on May 6, 2015 11:38:05 GMT
Well it goes to show the power these clubs have. In the first place I doubt many clubs would be allowed to cancel playing in a county club competition. Lots of other clubs have to play late into December because other county/Munster competitions hold competition up, why not Crokes and Stacks? Stacks played their Munster final on November 30th, why not play the Div 1 final on December 6th or 7th?
It also goes to show the absurdity of playing a final in Division 1 - fair enough if teams finish on the same points have a play-off but not when one team finishes top on points accrued.
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Post by Premier on May 6, 2015 15:06:30 GMT
Is there any truth in the rumour that all County players are being pulled from the Co League next weekend bar those playing in the Stacks/Crokes game. If it is true it is very unfair to have some County players allowed to play in round 4 of this years Co League and the majority excluded (not withstanding that the game is doubling up as last years Co League final) Just heard the same earlier - it's the last chance for some clubs, Legion, Rahillys to have a competitive game with their county players- now gone as Kerry have a training session on Sat! Will there be an announcement about this or is it just the sake of turning up to games not knowing whether they will be playing or not
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Post by lár na páirce on May 6, 2015 15:12:08 GMT
Disgraceful by Fitzmaurice - Hope this is brought to the full attention of the GAA world just as "Jimmy's Winning Matches" was.
A full month before the Kerry take to the field in Championship this is a shameful reflection of modern day inter county football
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Post by buck02 on May 6, 2015 15:19:11 GMT
Disgraceful by Fitzmaurice - Hope this is brought to the full attention of the GAA world just as "Jimmy's Winning Matches" was. A full month before the Kerry take to the field in Championship this is a shameful reflection of modern day inter county football I recall last year (possibly R4) players weren't allowed play either, was that the weekend where they went on the team bonding mountain climbing weekend? In fairness, inter county players have already played 2 rounds of the County League and either 1, 2 or even 3 club championship games. Its not unreasonable to expect Fitzmaurice to have first dibs on them this weekend, but whats good for the goose (Legion, Rahillys, Rathmore, Kenmare, Tarbert, Castlegregory and so on) should be as good for the gander (Crokes and Stacks).
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Post by Annascaultilidie on May 6, 2015 15:24:17 GMT
The key word so far is rumour.
So far.
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Post by lár na páirce on May 6, 2015 15:34:34 GMT
I recall last year (possibly R4) players weren't allowed play either, was that the weekend where they went on the team bonding mountain climbing weekend? In fairness, inter county players have already played 2 rounds of the County League and either 1, 2 or even 3 club championship games. Its not unreasonable to expect Fitzmaurice to have first dibs on them this weekend Why can't Fitzmaurice let them climb the mountain next weekend when there is no club fixtures?
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Post by greengold35 on May 6, 2015 15:52:15 GMT
This embargo on all players bar Crokes/Stacks was announced at Kerry training last night- players were unhappy and some voiced their disapproval but at the moment that's the situation . I believe that a no of clubs have been in contact with KCB chairman/ secretary to have this decision rescinded.
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Post by dabomber on May 6, 2015 15:59:06 GMT
This embargo on all players bar Crokes/Stacks was announced at Kerry training last night- players were unhappy and some voiced their disapproval but at the moment that's the situation . I believe that a no of clubs have been in contact with KCB chairman/ secretary to have this decision rescinded. Would this have anthing to do with this game being doubled up as the league final from last year?
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Post by dynamokid on May 6, 2015 16:05:27 GMT
And what is the ruling if there are players due to play on the Sunday?
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Post by Mickmack on May 6, 2015 18:40:45 GMT
Personally, I don't believe that Eamonn Fitzmaurice would make any decision that would be unethical or unprincipled, or not in the best interests of Kerry football.
There must be a reason for making exceptions for the game in question. If its doubling up as the 2014 league final as suggested above, then maybe that's the reason.
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Post by greengold35 on May 6, 2015 19:17:56 GMT
My understanding is that as the Crokes & Stacks players were being released due to the doubling up of the fixture that all clubs expected their county players to be released also. Obviously, Kerry management looked at matters differently.
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Post by classicfc on May 6, 2015 20:46:24 GMT
Stacks and Crokes are playing a league game of added significance due to the fact that it's a final but the level of disregard for the other clubs with Kerry Senior panellist's is unfair in the extreme. St Michael's Foilmore could badly do with the services of Mark Griffin to help in their fight against the drop to Division 2. Glenbeigh are in a similar situation but would be bolstered by the presence of both Pa Kilkenny and Darren O Sullivan in their starting line-up. Both Dr Crokes and Austin Stacks are benefiting unfairly from this arrangement as both teams will get to play a competitive game ahead of the Club Championship semi-finals whereas Rathmore and Dingle will not. This sort of inequality and one rule for one team scenario is intolerable and one wonders are delegates being listened to at all by the powers that be. The levels of tolerance of the club player must be wearing fairly thin at this stage, jam packing the most important club games of the year into a few weeks when the majority of players are doing exams is both ludicrous and unsustainable. While in the middle of career defining exams it must be sickening after making the effort to travel home to prepare for the biggest games of your year to hear your best players won't be available for your preparation. Croke Park needs to put structures in place to protect the interests of the club player as they are the cornerstone of the GAA as that cornerstone is quickly being eroded away. The County Board implement their relegation proposals but won't allow players to prepare for games critical to said proposals, the lunatics are running the asylum.
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Post by kerryeye on May 6, 2015 21:34:55 GMT
Stacks and Crokes are playing a league game of added significance due to the fact that it's a final but the level of disregard for the other clubs with Kerry Senior panellist's is unfair in the extreme. St Michael's Foilmore could badly do with the services of Mark Griffin to help in their fight against the drop to Division 2. Glenbeigh are in a similar situation but would be bolstered by the presence of both Pa Kilkenny and Darren O Sullivan in their starting line-up. Both Dr Crokes and Austin Stacks are benefiting unfairly from this arrangement as both teams will get to play a competitive game ahead of the Club Championship semi-finals whereas Rathmore and Dingle will not. This sort of inequality and one rule for one team scenario is intolerable and one wonders are delegates being listened to at all by the powers that be. The levels of tolerance of the club player must be wearing fairly thin at this stage, jam packing the most important club games of the year into a few weeks when the majority of players are doing exams is both ludicrous and unsustainable. While in the middle of career defining exams it must be sickening after making the effort to travel home to prepare for the biggest games of your year to hear your best players won't be available for your preparation. Croke Park needs to put structures in place to protect the interests of the club player as they are the cornerstone of the GAA as that cornerstone is quickly being eroded away. The County Board implement their relegation proposals but won't allow players to prepare for games critical to said proposals, the lunatics are running the asylum. Best and most logical post I've read here in a while.
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Post by woodlawn on May 6, 2015 21:43:13 GMT
Personally, I don't believe that Eamonn Fitzmaurice would make any decision that would be unethical or unprincipled, or not in the best interests of Kerry football. There must be a reason for making exceptions for the game in question. If its doubling up as the 2014 league final as suggested above, then maybe that's the reason. I don't think for a second anybody is questioning Eamons integrity, however there is also no doubt the Eamons priorities may not be aligned with those of the clubs, therefore it is incumbent on the executive to maintain a fair balance between the two
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Post by kerrygold on May 6, 2015 21:49:24 GMT
Maybe they could have doubled up the League final when both clubs will meet at some stage in the championship, probably the final, if the draw is favourable.
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Post by Premier on May 6, 2015 22:07:30 GMT
Maybe they could have doubled up the League final when both clubs will meet at some stage in the championship, probably the final, if the draw is favourable. Very circumstantial
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Post by diego on May 6, 2015 23:00:41 GMT
Maybe they could have doubled up the League final when both clubs will meet at some stage in the championship, probably the final, if the draw is favourable. Don't make a bad situation worse Kerrygold! Final should have played in 2014 or before the start of the current campaign at the very latest. Imagine if you were a player who had been involved all through the league campaign in 2014 and then having to wait 6 months for the final, by which time you might have retired, emigrated, been dropped due to new players coming on the scene or whatever. Bit of a joke really.
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Post by pillar on May 7, 2015 9:17:24 GMT
Clarity has to be attained with relation to the use of county players.Its fine to let them train away with the county but pulling them from club games 5 weeks in advance of your next inter county game is a bit rich.Let them play away club matches and pull them 2 weeks prior to intercounty games.It could get to the stage where they will only be play county championship games for their clubs
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