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Post by Corner Back on Jan 15, 2015 20:36:10 GMT
Looking at Brian Crowley Templenoe recently it crossed my mind that he played county minor at corner back and is now a centre forward (for college, club and district). Got the mind going about players that changed position at inter county level (I don't mean from corner back to wing back) For instance....
Brian Sheehan from Goals to Midfield/Forward
Johnny Culloty from Corner Forward to Goalkeeper
Eoin Brosnan from centre forward to centre back
Sean Walsh from Midfield to Full back
If memory serves me right Micko Dwyer went from Corner forward to wing back. Is that part of what makes Kerry so successful, adaptability? Seamus Moynihan won all Irelands at full back, wing back, centre back and came on at wing forward in 2004 final. Has there been many players in other counties that changed position? I would be particularly interested to hear Veterans view on this! Anyone to add to the above list?
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Post by greengold35 on Jan 15, 2015 21:05:51 GMT
Tom Spillane, centre forward to centre back, Ger Power wing back to wing forward, John O'Keeffe midfield to full back.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2015 21:41:46 GMT
Tommy griffin midfield and full back
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Post by peanuts on Jan 15, 2015 22:10:03 GMT
Dara O'Cinneide first played for Kerry at wing back. Tommy Doyle played wing back, midfield and forwards. I think Ogie played backs & forwards. Paudie Lynch played backs and midfield.
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Post by gwan on Jan 15, 2015 23:28:09 GMT
Nudie Hughes from Monaghan won allstars at No.2 in 79 and No.15 in 85
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Post by hurlingman on Jan 16, 2015 9:24:10 GMT
Tommy griffin midfield and full back was also a half back quite a bit |
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Post by ruralgaa on Jan 16, 2015 10:11:36 GMT
Looking at Brian Crowley Templenoe recently it crossed my mind that he played county minor at corner back and is now a centre forward (for college, club and district). Got the mind going about players that changed position at inter county level (I don't mean from corner back to wing back) For instance.... Brian Sheehan from Goals to Midfield/Forward Johnny Culloty from Corner Forward to Goalkeeper Eoin Brosnan from centre forward to centre back Sean Walsh from Midfield to Full back If memory serves me right Micko Dwyer went from Corner forward to wing back. Is that part of what makes Kerry so successful, adaptability? Seamus Moynihan won all Irelands at full back, wing back, centre back and came on at wing forward in 2004 final. Has there been many players in other counties that changed position? I would be particularly interested to hear Veterans view on this! Anyone to add to the above list? In fairness Brian Crowley has always been a forward, and a good one at that. The only time he ever played as a defender was when Mickey Ned selected him there for the minors. There must have been a shortage of backs in the grade at the time. It was baffling really! Bryan Sheehan has always been an outfield player. However when he was 16 he was put in goal for the Colasite Na Skelliga team as they had no keeper and he had a massive kick on him. He wasn't starting outfield at the time. This was before tees were used. He played quite well in their Hogan Cup run and was eventually selected to play in goal that summer for the minors. |
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Post by ballynamona on Jan 16, 2015 12:46:21 GMT
I think Joe McNally played in goals for the Dublin minors at one stage.
Probably the most versatile, and perhaps the most underrated Kerry player ever was Seamus Murphy. He played from corner back to corner forward and positions in between. I remember mafi97 writing a superb post on him on one occasion.
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Post by kerrygold on Jan 16, 2015 13:37:03 GMT
I think Joe McNally played in goals for the Dublin minors at one stage. Probably the most versatile, and perhaps the most underrated Kerry player ever was Seamus Murphy. He played from corner back to corner forward and positions in between. I remember mafi97 writing a superb post on him on one occasion. Yes, Joe won a minor medal in 1982 in goals for Dublin V Kerry and won a senior medal 12 months later at number 15 for Dublin V Galway. |
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Post by kerrygold on Jan 16, 2015 13:43:15 GMT
Tom Spillane, centre forward to centre back, Ger Power wing back to wing forward, John O'Keeffe midfield to full back. Tom played centre forward, centre back,wing back and full back for Kerry in championship football, in that order. He also played full forward and midfield in the National League for Kerry. He was a fine centre half back for the three in a row between 1984 and 1986. He retired at 28 after the 1991 semi final defeat to Down. Probably should have squared the ball to the bomber at the death of the 1982 defeat to Offaly.......... |
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Post by keane on Jan 16, 2015 14:03:15 GMT
The McMahons from Tyrone must be among the most versatile players in the modern game.
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Post by seamo on Jan 16, 2015 14:14:28 GMT
Paul Galvin corner forward >>>wing back>>>wing forward.
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Post by diego on Jan 16, 2015 15:00:22 GMT
Eamonn Fitz was fairly versatile in his day. Can remember him playing all over the place in the back line at intercounty level. Not sure if he ever played in the forward line for Kerry, but have seen him at midfield, on the forty and at full forward with Finuge or Feale Rangers.
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Post by keane on Jan 16, 2015 15:26:29 GMT
Paul Galvin corner forward >>>wing back>>>wing forward. Where is that signature of yours from again? I've heard the story but can't quite place it - gives me a giggle every time I read it! |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jan 16, 2015 16:13:17 GMT
Paul Galvin corner forward >>>wing back>>>wing forward. Where is that signature of yours from again? I've heard the story but can't quite place it - gives me a giggle every time I read it! @pgal10 |
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Post by ruralgaa on Jan 16, 2015 16:20:46 GMT
Paul Galvin corner forward >>>wing back>>>wing forward. Remember him playing corner back against Dublin in a challenge match in 2003 at the opening of the renovated Templenoe GAA pitch. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2015 17:06:25 GMT
Tom O Sullivan Dingle can play corner back and corner forward
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2015 17:09:39 GMT
Paul Galvin corner forward >>>wing back>>>wing forward. Remember him playing corner back against Dublin in a challenge match in 2003 at the opening of the renovated Templenoe GAA pitch. Can remember him playing full Back in 2005 final against Owen Mulligan/Peter Canavan  |
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Post by Corner Back on Jan 16, 2015 18:18:46 GMT
Looking at Brian Crowley Templenoe recently it crossed my mind that he played county minor at corner back and is now a centre forward (for college, club and district). Got the mind going about players that changed position at inter county level (I don't mean from corner back to wing back) For instance.... Brian Sheehan from Goals to Midfield/Forward Johnny Culloty from Corner Forward to Goalkeeper Eoin Brosnan from centre forward to centre back Sean Walsh from Midfield to Full back If memory serves me right Micko Dwyer went from Corner forward to wing back. Is that part of what makes Kerry so successful, adaptability? Seamus Moynihan won all Irelands at full back, wing back, centre back and came on at wing forward in 2004 final. Has there been many players in other counties that changed position? I would be particularly interested to hear Veterans view on this! Anyone to add to the above list? In fairness Brian Crowley has always been a forward, and a good one at that. The only time he ever played as a defender was when Mickey Ned selected him there for the minors. There must have been a shortage of backs in the grade at the time. It was baffling really! Bryan Sheehan has always been an outfield player. However when he was 16 he was put in goal for the Colasite Na Skelliga team as they had no keeper and he had a massive kick on him. He wasn't starting outfield at the time. This was before tees were used. He played quite well in their Hogan Cup run and was eventually selected to play in goal that summer for the minors. so Crowley was always a forward except when he wasnt and sheehan was always an outfield player except when he played in goals! |
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Post by hurlingman on Jan 16, 2015 19:03:10 GMT
Eamonn Fitz was fairly versatile in his day. Can remember him playing all over the place in the back line at intercounty level. Not sure if he ever played in the forward line for Kerry, but have seen him at midfield, on the forty and at full forward with Finuge or Feale Rangers. He played center for the last 2 seasons he was with Kerry. I think he played there in the 06 Munster final |
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Post by seamo on Jan 16, 2015 20:25:39 GMT
Paul Galvin corner forward >>>wing back>>>wing forward. Where is that signature of yours from again? I've heard the story but can't quite place it - gives me a giggle every time I read it! Yeah Paul Galvins book, had me in stitches reading that story!!! |
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Post by veteran on Jan 16, 2015 20:56:03 GMT
This is an interesting thread. I have written before on this topic even though I don't think there was ever a designated thread.
Obviously, I go back further than most people on this forum. I wrote at one time that, possibly, the four most rounded footballers I saw playing for Kerry were Tom Long, Mick O'Dwyer, Paudie Lynch and Seamus Moynihan. By rounded I meant that one could imagine them filling any outfield position with distinction because of the completeness of their game. I later added Seamus Murphy and Sean Walsh to that list.
Tom Long won All-Ireland medals at centre forward and full forward. He frequently played at centre half back and at midfield. Famously, he switched from CHF to midfield in the 1959 final against Galway when Mick O'Connell went off injured. Frank Evers was a colossal man for Galway in that position and didn't spare his opponents. But Tom was fearless and granite like and ,with help from the understated Seamus Murphy, it meant that the loss of Mick O'Connell wasn't an issue. What made him so good? Hands of glue and two feet, a crippling body swerve, the aforementioned fearlessness and strength and a streak of meanness ,if it was required. Maurice Hayes was secretary of the Down County Board when Down sensationally beat Kerry in 1960 and 1961. It was interesting to listen to him in a recent radio interview when he said the man they most feared in those days was not Mick O'Connell but Tom Long. No more need be said. Amazingly, Tom retired when he was only about twenty seven. Of course the genes were wholesome- he was a first cousin of Paidi O'Se!
Mick O'Dwyer was probably the best left half back when he played there- 1957 to 1963- but he is probably best remembered as a forward, particularly as a corner forward where he became footballer of the year, I think. He also played left full back and in all the positions in the forward line. He won two medals at left half back and two in the left corner. He frequently played on the forty for Waterville where he almost dragged them over the line in the county final on a couple of occasions. Like Tom Long, he was a wonderful fielder and kicker. If Tom played as long as Mick he may well lay claim to being Kerry's greatest ever and if Mick had Tom's ruthlessness he may have similar claims. As it is, both belong to the extraordinary category where they were recently joined by Declan.
If you talk to Kerry folk about Kerry greats, a lot of them need to be prompted about Paudie Lynch. But when you do remind them, without fail they agree about his rare ability. This was another extraordinary one. He came on the senior team about 1971 at midfield, aged about nineteen, at a time when the Valentia man was gazing at the sunset. Cork trounced Kerry in the 1971 Munster final. I don't think Paudie was on the first fifteen and therefore would not have come on until the start of the NFL which of course began in October in those days. Offaly won the All-Ireland that year and came to Tralee in October/November for the NFL. One of their star men was Willie Bryans, a beautifully elegant midfielder. Paudie was his immediate opponent on a miserable day and confirmed to Kerry people that this was one man who was going to fulfill his college and underage promise. He was magnificent and I vividly recall Con Houlihan proclaiming in the following week's Kerryman that another one has descended from the heavens. How prescient Con was. It was the start of a glittering career for UCC and Kerry. He sustained a horrific knee injury in the NFL of the Spring 1973?, perhaps a cruciate injury. It was probably not being diagnosed then and certainly not treated properly. Still, he went on to win a medal in 1975 at midfield and four more followed between wing back and corner back. I remember him starring at full back in the 1977 NFL final against Jimmy Keaveney . In the early seventies I spent a lot of time in Cork and saw him frequently play at midfield/CHF for UCC where he was unmarkable. He certainly qualifies as one of the greatest I have seen play for Kerry. One other fact about Paudie is that he was one of those very quiet men who was interested in only playing within the rules but if you decided to bend the rules, well ---.
Seamus Moynihan is of such recent vintage that there is no reason to extol his virtues on this forum.
Ballynamona rightly mentions Seamus Murphy. Another wonderfully versatile footballer. He was often overshadowed by the more flamboyant brother, Dr. Sean, but was more consistent.
Sean Walsh played with distinction in all the central positions for Kerry and UCC.
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Post by hurlingman on Jan 16, 2015 22:45:50 GMT
On the subject of underrated players and their ability to play in a number of positions, Tommy Doyle played everywhere from 5 to 15 between league a championship during his career. It could also be said that he played Corner Back for a time during the 82 final but lets not get into that.
You'd could argue Jimmy Deenihan seeing as he played in goal a few times, once in an All Ireland i think?
Seamus MacGearailt started out in goal before moving to the forwards then the backs and back to the forwards again!
Another who might go unnoticed is Enda Galvin. Played everywhere from the full back to the half forward line
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