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Post by southward on Apr 11, 2015 16:53:49 GMT
Well, James Logue....what do you think of that ??
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Post by southward on Apr 11, 2015 17:02:43 GMT
2-16 and none of Kerry's starting full-forward line scored. Strange!
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 11, 2015 17:19:34 GMT
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Post by homerj on Apr 11, 2015 17:29:07 GMT
Kildare are still in this year's Christy Ring cup but not in the Leinster championship...that's strange.are they in the qualifiers???
I've read here that this year's winners get into the Leinster championship, is that confirmed?
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 11, 2015 18:01:21 GMT
Kerry make the step up to Division 1B after shocking Antrim
By Paul Keane at Parnell Park
Antrim 1-18 Kerry 2-16
John Egan etched his name in Kerry hurling history with an injury-time winner to defeat Antrim at Parnell Park and ensure Allianz Hurling League Division 1B hurling for the Kingdom in 2016.
The St Brendan's man was only introduced with 13 minutes to go but hit the point that secured the most precious of victories.
Kerry had finished top or joint top of Division 2A for three seasons running but had consistently failed to gain promotion until now.
They remained on long odds coming to Parnell Park to face Antrim as Division 2A champions and were seven points down at half-time.
But a thrilling second-half performance with the wind at their backs that included two Colm Harty goals saw them draw level three times late on.
Extra-time loomed but Kerry managed to work the ball out to Egan who shot off balance but still managed to dissect the posts.
It's a disastrous result for Antrim who drop to the third tier of the league and will realise the system makes it difficult for them to return.
Kevin Ryan's side approached the tie with a wretched Division 1B record having lost all five of their group games. They also slipped to defeat to Laois in the relegation play-off though this tie gave them one last opportunity to save their status.
They took a commanding 0-11 to 0-3 half-time lead though it hardly reflected the exchanges in an evenly contested encounter.
Kerry kicked themselves after firing nine wides while they also failed to take any of the three goal chances they carved out.
They chased goals early on, perhaps with the memory still strong of the five they scored last weekend in the first 18 minutes of the Division 2A final win over Westmeath.
They had that game virtually wrapped up by half-time but that was never likely to be replicated here. Aside from facing 1B opposition, they were also firing into the teeth of a gale for the first 35 minutes.
Kerry coped well with the conditions early on and Antrim led by just 0-4 to 0-2 after 20 minutes. But four frees in a row from Paul Shiels put significant daylight between the sides.
In fact, Antrim tallied nine points without reply in the middle section of the opening half to take that sizeable interval lead.
It remained to be seen whether eight points was enough of an advantage as the Saffrons faced into the breeze themselves.
Kerry duly took advantage of the breeze with points from Patrick Kelly, Shane Nolan and John Griffin after the restart.
Antrim points from Shiels and sub Conor Johnson stemmed the Kingdom tide momentarily but the Munster men were quickly back on the offensive.
They fired 1-2 including a fine 46th minute Harty solo goal to leave just two in it with Antrim 0-13 to 1-8 ahead.
Antrim rallied for a period and PJ O'Connell netted but Harty's second goal for Kerry when he scooped in from close range after a defensive error left three in it.
It set up an exciting finale and the sides were level three times before Egan struck at the death for that famous winner.
Kerry: S Murphy, D Fitzell, P Costello, B Murphy, S Weir, D Dineen, D Collins (0-01), J Griffin (0-01), P Kelly (0-01), C Harty (2-00), S Nolan (0-08, 0-05f), M O'Leary (0-04), M Boyle, P Boyle, K Carmody.
Subs: J Egan (0-01) for Carmody, J Flaherty for P Boyle.
Antrim: C O'Connell, O McFadden, N McAuley (0-01), A Graffin, E McAlonan, N McManus (0-01), C McKinley, E Campbell, M Bradley (0-01), P Shiels (0-07, 0-07f), C Carson, D McKernan, PJ O'Connell (1-02), M Donnelly (0-01), C Clarke (0-03, 0-01f).
Subs: C Johnson (0-01) for McAlonan, M Dudley (0-01) for Carson, D Hamill for Bradley.
Referee: Sean Cleere (Kilkenny).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2015 18:01:29 GMT
Kildare are still in this year's Christy Ring cup but not in the Leinster championship...that's strange.are they in the qualifiers??? I've read here that this year's winners get into the Leinster championship, is that confirmed? Kildare lost the promotion game to Westmeath,I think it was a week after beat our lads in the Christy Ring Final The new rule will benefit the winners of this years Christy Ring,they will be in the round robin section of the Leinster Championship in 2016
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Post by homerj on Apr 11, 2015 18:38:10 GMT
Kildare are still in this year's Christy Ring cup but not in the Leinster championship...that's strange.are they in the qualifiers??? I've read here that this year's winners get into the Leinster championship, is that confirmed? Kildare lost the promotion game to Westmeath,I think it was a week after beat our lads in the Christy Ring Final The new rule will benefit the winners of this years Christy Ring,they will be in the round robin section of the Leinster Championship in 2016 That's great news, would mean 4 extra games at senior championship next year.
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Post by fenit67 on Apr 11, 2015 19:06:00 GMT
Kerry along with Cork are the only other Munster county in the top rank in both football and hurling. Today was important for Kerry hurling as playing 5 games against top opposition in the league every year is vital for development. This is a young team that has a winning mentality that needs to be galvanised through playing better opposition. Kerry already know the matches that they will be targetting next year in the league.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 11, 2015 19:06:59 GMT
If you go in at half time 8 points down you don't usually be hopeful of winning the game but the score line of 11 points to 3 didn't do Kerry first half performance justice. They out hurled and outfought Antrim for long periods and they created three goal chances but no goal came. Padraig Boyle and Carmody struck the side netting and the keeper made a great save from another effort from one of the Boyles.
Kerry were dominating the puckout with the hand up in a manner that JJ Delaney would approve of. They missed a few points from frees and play and as the half wore on Antrim kept the score board ticking with long range efforts from play and frees from limited possession.
As they went off at half time we said that the strong breeze would help Kerry in the second half. Then the clouds rolled in and down came the rain and it took the strong wind as it cleared.
On the resumption John Griffin belted a point from 70 yards and Shane Nolan followed up with a similar effort.
Shane Nolan was getting on more ball and crucially he had more space. He seemed to operate from the left half forward berth in the second half and he launched over a few picture scores from near the sideline in that second half.
A young 20 year old lad called Michael OLeary from Abbeydorney was outstanding all through. He has the build of Tommy Walsh and scored four points from play.
They brought in back to 5 points after 15 mins of the second half. Then a great catch from one of the Boyles and a pop pass to Colin Harty on the burst and suddenly a goal was on...... Harty stuck it into the top left half corner of the net from 25 yards.
It was great stuff now with Antrim rallying. A blood injury to Daniel Collins meant his withdrawal for a few minutes and in his absence Antrim cut through for a goal. Back to 5 points again.
One of the features of Kerrys play was their ability to find each other with the pass. Gone are the days of hitting 50:50 balls into the forwards. One such move saw Mikey Boyle having a shot for goal saved only for Harty to flick it to the net. Game on again.
Antrim were more capable of picking off points that Kerry but they couldn't match Kerry's sheer guts and determination.
Kerry's half back line was excellent all through and Darren Dineen at CHB was outstanding.
With time almost up Daniel Collins won a ball on the sideline and 45 yards out. He turned onto his weak side and split the posts for the equalizer as "one minute injury time" was announced.
Kerry came again and worked the play to with the D. The ball was fed to James Flaherty but his shot for the winner was blocked down. Flaherty gathered again, feigned to shoot, turned and fed it back to Ardfert's John Egan. The moment found the man. Egan pointed off his weak side.
Antrim attacked again but couldn't get the equalizer and the final whistle was greeted with great scenes of joy by all the players, mentors and supporters.
No matter what the code or competition, it gladdens the heart to see players playing with such pride and honour in the green and gold jersey.
If they can keep it going they could win the Christy Ring Cup.
The Kerry keeper Murphy was sound and made a crucial save in the second half to keep Kerry in the game. The Kerry full back line were good while the half back line were outstanding.
John Griffin and Kelly were on top in the second half.
Kerrys half forward line got 2.09 from play. Need I say more.
The two Boyles caused mayhem and could have ended with a huge tally with any luck. Carmody tried hard till his replacement by John Egan. Flahery's awareness is setting up Egan was brilliant.
Its been some few weeks for Collins, Egan and Dineen. Promotion to Division 1B to go with All Ireland Intermediate football medals.
The ref was anonymous. You would hardly know he was there. A great performance by him.
Brendan Cummins was in the stand taking notes and assisting his Tipp colleague.
Great value for 15 euro. Congrats to all.
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Post by kerrygold on Apr 11, 2015 20:41:08 GMT
What are the chances of beating Antrim? Well, that answers that. Congrats to the hurlers, well done.
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Post by veteran on Apr 11, 2015 21:24:16 GMT
Thanks for that fine report MickMack. It's not often that the hurlers get reported on here. Perhaps, other members of the Kerry hurling fraternity will follow suit and starting posting hurling reports.
This is a wonderful result for Kerry hurling. I have been told that attendances for their home NHL games have been very poor which is surprising considering the fine crowd which turn up for the county final. The hope is that with more attractive teams visiting next year attendances will increase. Will Austin Stack Park be out of commission by then? If so, would other North Kerry venues be suitable for our home games?
PS Congratulations to Pobal Scoil. They were clearly the better team but made heavy work of it. Winning two in a row is a significant achievement considering the relatively small number of boys attending the school. That Marc O'Connor seems to have all the qualities of a commanding midfielder.
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Post by Chinatown on Apr 11, 2015 21:28:20 GMT
My 6 year old played his first go games hurling match in Dunshanny Co meath today, great day all round !
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Post by kerrygold on Apr 11, 2015 21:30:49 GMT
Thanks for that fine report MickMack. It's not often that the hurlers get reported on here. Perhaps, other members of the Kerry hurling fraternity will follow suit and starting posting hurling reports. This is a wonderful result for Kerry hurling. I have been told that attendances for their home NHL games have been very poor which is surprising considering the fine crowd which turn up for the county final. The hope is that with more attractive teams visiting next year attendances will increase. Will Austin Stack Park be out of commission by then? If so, would other North Kerry venues be suitable for our home games? PS Congratulations to Pobal Scoil. They were clearly the better team but made heavy work of it. Winning two in a row is a significant achievement considering the relatively small number of boys attending the school. That Marc O'Connor seems to have all the qualities of a commanding midfielder. Looks to have the potential to go the distance. Hopefully we can keep him out of Tadgh's shopping bag!!!
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Post by kerryexile on Apr 11, 2015 21:38:29 GMT
Great report Mick. When we get every thing right we can compete at a higher level.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 11, 2015 21:58:43 GMT
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Post by southward on Apr 11, 2015 22:42:24 GMT
Thanks for that fine report MickMack. It's not often that the hurlers get reported on here. Perhaps, other members of the Kerry hurling fraternity will follow suit and starting posting hurling reports. This is a wonderful result for Kerry hurling. I have been told that attendances for their home NHL games have been very poor which is surprising considering the fine crowd which turn up for the county final. The hope is that with more attractive teams visiting next year attendances will increase. Will Austin Stack Park be out of commission by then? If so, would other North Kerry venues be suitable for our home games?PS Congratulations to Pobal Scoil. They were clearly the better team but made heavy work of it. Winning two in a row is a significant achievement considering the relatively small number of boys attending the school. That Marc O'Connor seems to have all the qualities of a commanding midfielder. Next year's home games are to be played in Abbeydorney, as far as I know.
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Post by Chinatown on Apr 12, 2015 8:34:43 GMT
Dressing rooms getting an overhaul, great pitch, parking not the best though
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 12, 2015 10:06:18 GMT
SUNDAY INDEPENDENT
Egan's point lifts Kerry
KERRY 2-16 ANTRIM 1-18 - NHL DIV 1B/2A PLAY-OFF
Supersub John Egan was hailed a 'born leader' after firing a historic match-winning point to send Kerry up to Division 1B of the Allianz Hurling League.
The St Brendan's man was only introduced in the 57th minute but scored the injury-time point that separated the sides at Parnell Park.
Few could gripe about Kerry going up having won their division for the past two seasons but falling to Offaly in last year's promotion/relegation tie.
A year on, they made up for that though they had to do it the hard way after slipping eight points off the pace at half-time.
But Colm Harty sniped two goals while Shane Nolan was excellent with 0-8. But Egan was the name on everyone's lips afterwards as he shot the historic point that secured Kerry's win.
"John is a born leader," said Kerry manager Eamonn Kelly. "We had the belief to try him again today and I'm absolutely delighted he got the winner.
"The odds were stacked against a 2A team going up. We had to do it the hard way with back-to-back league titles. Antrim, in fairness, gave it a right rattle and we thought we might have missed our chance after the first half, we had a lot of missed goal chances."
Kerry trailed 0-11 to 0-3 at half-time but weren't as poor as the scoreline suggests. They played into a gale-force wind and racked up nine wides as well as three goal opportunities.
Harty's goals came in the 44th and 55th minutes and Kerry did take a brief lead with nine minutes to go. But it was Egan's 71st-minute score that ultimately separated them.
Scorers - Kerry: S Nolan 0-8 (5f), C Harty 2-0, M O'Leary 0-4, D Collins, J Griffin, P Kelly and J Egan 0-1 each. Antrim: P Shiels 0-7 (7f), PJ O'Connell 1-2, C Clarke 0-3 (1f), N McAuley, N McManus, M Bradley, M Donnelly, C Johnson and M Dudley 0-1 each.
Kerry: S Murphy; D Fitzell, P Costello, B Murphy; S Weir, D Dineen, D Collins; J Griffin, P Kelly; C Harty, S Nolan, M O'Leary; M Boyle, P Boyle, K Carmody. Subs: J Egan for Carmody (57), J Flaherty for P Boyle (63).
Antrim: C O'Connell; O McFadden, N McAuley, A Graffin; E McAlonan, N McManus, C McKinley; E Campbell, M Bradley; P Shiels, C Carson, D McKernan; PJ O'Connell, M Donnelly, C Clarke. Subs: C Johnson for McAlonan (h-t), M Dudley for Carson (43), D Hamill for Bradley (59).
Referee: S Cleere (Kilkenny).
Sunday Indo Sport
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Post by southward on Apr 12, 2015 10:12:36 GMT
What's the betting that the promotion/relegation rules will be changed now? Not that they shouldn't of course.
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Post by wayupnorth on Apr 12, 2015 13:13:06 GMT
Congratulations to the Kerry hurlers for a well deserved win yesterday. As promised, the entire Ballymena Branch (3) travelled to the match. We were probably the only happy supporters heading northwards afterwards! Well worth getting out of bed for. The first half presented a mountain to climb but given the weather and Kerry's dogged determination I wasn't a bit surprised when they came right back into it in the second half although I was expecting it to go to extra time. The relegation/promotion playoff situation is absurd but it should now be kept for a couple of years more. Otherwise the GAA will be accused of bending the rules to suit "elite" teams who through no fault of their own manage to drop down a division.
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Post by osullidp123 on Apr 12, 2015 13:58:45 GMT
new rule change; The Christy Ring Cup winners will be promoted to the Leinster championship. About time! Hi All, Any idea how i could get my hands on a copy of 1891 Kerry All Ireland hurling winning team, or is this available
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Post by ansúilleabhánach on Apr 12, 2015 14:06:51 GMT
What's the betting that the promotion/relegation rules will be changed now? Not that they shouldn't of course. I may be wrong, but hasn't it already been decided to ditch the playoff from 2016 on?
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Post by hurlingman on Apr 12, 2015 14:33:44 GMT
Kildare are still in this year's Christy Ring cup but not in the Leinster championship...that's strange.are they in the qualifiers??? I've read here that this year's winners get into the Leinster championship, is that confirmed? Yes and no. If Kerry win the Christy Ring they will go into the qualifier group with Carlow, Laois etc If Kerry qualified from that group they would go into a Munster QF rather than Leinster
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Post by hurlingman on Apr 12, 2015 14:44:37 GMT
This is farcical that the goalkeeper is off playing club hurling in Tipperary while Kerry play this hugely important game at the weekend. The same thing happened last year when we were playing Offaly. I see where there is a David Butler added to the panel. Is this the guy who went off to play with his club last year rather than play against Offaly? A farce upon farce. This is not the way to gain respectability for Kerry hurling. One things for sure is he should lose his starting place for the first round of the Christy Ring. He made his choice yesterday and picked his club when Kerry needed him. Why now should Stephen Murphy lose out? Kildare i believe are another team who are big into bringing outsiders. It may bring some short term success but is no good in the long run. Like i said before Kerry wont be able to use these lads in 1B next year. A lot of these players are just using the likes of Kerry to get them more experience so they can make their own county team. James Logue has even said he's long team goal is to be the starting Tipp keeper! On the subject of keepers, why isn't Tadhg Flynn still on the panel?
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Post by southward on Apr 12, 2015 16:43:08 GMT
This is farcical that the goalkeeper is off playing club hurling in Tipperary while Kerry play this hugely important game at the weekend. The same thing happened last year when we were playing Offaly. I see where there is a David Butler added to the panel. Is this the guy who went off to play with his club last year rather than play against Offaly? A farce upon farce. This is not the way to gain respectability for Kerry hurling. One things for sure is he should lose his starting place for the first round of the Christy Ring. He made his choice yesterday and picked his club when Kerry needed him. Why now should Stephen Murphy lose out? Kildare i believe are another team who are big into bringing outsiders. It may bring some short term success but is no good in the long run. Like i said before Kerry wont be able to use these lads in 1B next year. A lot of these players are just using the likes of Kerry to get them more experience so they can make their own county team. James Logue has even said he's long team goal is to be the starting Tipp keeper! On the subject of keepers, why isn't Tadhg Flynn still on the panel? Respectfully disagree, hurlingman. He should be told to f*ck off altogether.
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Post by hurlingman on Apr 12, 2015 18:10:16 GMT
One things for sure is he should lose his starting place for the first round of the Christy Ring. He made his choice yesterday and picked his club when Kerry needed him. Why now should Stephen Murphy lose out? Kildare i believe are another team who are big into bringing outsiders. It may bring some short term success but is no good in the long run. Like i said before Kerry wont be able to use these lads in 1B next year. A lot of these players are just using the likes of Kerry to get them more experience so they can make their own county team. James Logue has even said he's long team goal is to be the starting Tipp keeper! On the subject of keepers, why isn't Tadhg Flynn still on the panel? Respectfully disagree, hurlingman. He should be told to f*ck off altogether. You know what you're right.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 12, 2015 18:19:40 GMT
You will find yourself in this sort of dilemma when you play club in one county and intercounty with another.
Ask Jack O'Shea. He played for Leixlip in the run up to the 1986 All Ireland Final against the wishes of the Kerry selectors.
Its an awful dilemma to be in. I think that the comments on Logue are unfair. I agree that Murphy should start the next day for the simple reason that he didn't put a foot wrong yesterday.
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Post by seamo on Apr 12, 2015 18:27:20 GMT
Well done to the Kerry hurler's a great achievement. Had to battle alot of teams to get this far as well as the suits in HQ.
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Post by southward on Apr 12, 2015 19:29:24 GMT
You will find yourself in this sort of dilemma when you play club in one county and intercounty with another. Ask Jack O'Shea. He played for Leixlip in the run up to the 1986 All Ireland Final against the wishes of the Kerry selectors. Its an awful dilemma to be in. I think that the comments on Logue are unfair. I agree that Murphy should start the next day for the simple reason that he didn't put a foot wrong yesterday. Sorry, Mick, I can't agree with you there. County identity and pride is a critical part of the Irish psyche, and especially so when it comes to the GAA. To choose a first round club game over the biggest Kerry hurling game of the year says a lot about Logue's affinity with the Kingdom. It's a huge disrespect to Kerry hurling, in my view. And if he values the club fixture more then fine, good luck to him, he is a Tipp man after all. But that's the point, really - he has no real commitment to the Kerry team and, that being the case, he shouldn't be there. I'm sure there's many a lad in Kilmoyley or Abbeydorney would give their right arm for the chance.
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