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Post by Mickmack on Jan 3, 2015 12:33:25 GMT
I think everyone is right on this thread.
Kerrygold and Misteallaigh are right. Kildare deserve respect as do all amateur players giving their all, (including the Kerry hurlers). And Kildare are making progress. And Kerrybhoy is right that Kildare are no nearer to winning an All Ireland than 15 years ago. But so are most counties. Only Dublin, Kerry or Mayo will win it in the next 3 years in my view.
And K-Man may offbeat at times but so what. There is probably something in his "Kerry ingredient" angle although he was driving me demented with it before the 2014 final. But Kerry players are imbued with a self belief and sense of destiny that is priceless.
As regards the point of the thread, well, rugby as a spectacle is ruined by the growth in the size of players and the hits are like car crash TV. Here is a question that I would like answered..... to what extent was Kerrys minor success in 2014 down to a greater emphasis on gym work compared to in previous years. I realise that Jack is a great manager and the players were exceptional but was gym work a significant factor.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jan 3, 2015 15:16:46 GMT
I don't think that we are going to agree on this so it's probably best if we leave it as otherwise it's going to develop into an over the top argument and neither of us need or want that
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jan 3, 2015 18:35:00 GMT
kerrybhoy06, the ethos of this forum is about promoting and supporting the GAA, not about your 'superior' knowledge. By the way thank you guys for slagging me off that I was like Flann O'Brien, I hope you know more about that than you do about football.
Here's a tip, look ahead, not behind, I am sure you and kerryeye have a lot to offer, unless kerryeye is looking out from where the sun don't shine.
As regards mickmack, what upset you before the '14 final? My philosophy was based on 100% appreciation of and belief in Fitzy, and I don't see why I have to defend that. At times comments were offbeat and I took it upon myself to keep things positive. Whos is offbeat now? I am not such a big man that I feel I am above constructive criticism. I see though where some may think The Kerry Ingredient is mythical, it ain't and I have seen enough in life to know we have a unique spiritual advantage. Kerry are Kerry and the jersey has frightened a lot of opponents down the years; in the words of a good friend of mine, "A Kerryman is not to be trusted with a football, as he is capable of just about anything".
Regarding the minors I hope we don't make the same mistake of playing beautiful football and losing. WE URGENTLY NEED TO DO WITH THEM WHAT FITZY DID WITH THE SENIORS. This is not the same debate as Gym vs Ball practice and I think those involved will do the right thing. Fitzy gave us the leadership to adopt and now we are back on top. Who ever thought Kerry would adopt to the new game and claim Sam? I believed we'd acquit ourselves but did I think that is a year of transition the lads would deliver what amounted to a milestone year for Kerry football. Genuinely, I was never so looking forward to the new football year, although I see lots of threats and which makes it all the more exciting.
Athblian shona eile agus go n-éirí Ardán Uí Ógáin linn d’uimhir 38ú
Another happy new year and may the Hogan Stand rise before us for the 38th time
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Post by Mickmack on Jan 8, 2015 18:03:33 GMT
As regards mickmack, what upset you before the '14 final? My philosophy was based on 100% appreciation of and belief in Fitzy, and I don't see why I have to defend that. At times comments were offbeat and I took it upon myself to keep things positive. Whos is offbeat now? I am not such a big man that I feel I am above constructive criticism. I see though where some may think The Kerry Ingredient is mythical, it ain't and I have seen enough in life to know we have a unique spiritual advantage. Kerry are Kerry and the jersey has frightened a lot of opponents down the years; in the words of a good friend of mine, "A Kerryman is not to be trusted with a football, as he is capable of just about anything". Put it down to a long hangover from the hubris prior to the 1982 final and the loss of that final. I too have great trust in Fitzie. As a leader of men, he clearly is top drawer. Kerrys display in the 2014 final was probably the most "intelligent" that I have seen from a Kerry team. The ultimate percentage game. I am not saying that there isnt something in your "Kerry ingredient" thing. Just that it might have been slightly overdone prior to the 2014 final. But mine is just one opinion. |
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jan 11, 2015 17:56:04 GMT
Hi Mickmack, I was just trying to counter balance some of the negativity on here. Win, lose or draw, I'd have the very same respect for Fitzy & Co as I just know what they are about. I often wonder if living outside of Kerry makes me appreciate more what we have that others don't. Most of us may not agree if only because most of us have lived within the county bounds all their lives. I think my signature tells it as it is!
What I was surprised with is that the original topic of this thread yielded so little from a thought provoking perspective, and I had looked forward to that.
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Post by Mickmack on Jan 11, 2015 19:58:31 GMT
What I was surprised with is that the original topic of this thread yielded so little from a thought provoking perspective, and I had looked forward to that. BOD article bemoans the drift away from ball skills towards height and power. Yet, height and power were vital in Kerry winning in 2014....... Aiden, Buckley, all the midfielders, KD and Paul Geaney.... not that they were lacking in the skill department either of course. |
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Post by seamo on Jan 11, 2015 20:20:07 GMT
What I was surprised with is that the original topic of this thread yielded so little from a thought provoking perspective, and I had looked forward to that. BOD article bemoans the drift away from ball skills towards height and power. Yet, height and power were vital in Kerry winning in 2014....... Aiden, Buckley, all the midfielders, KD and Paul Geaney.... not that they were lacking in the skill department either of course. Plus this topic has been discussed here plenty of times before. What BOD said wasn't revolutionary in relation to Kerry football, or more specifically the Kerry GAA forum!! lol |
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Post by kerrygold on Feb 16, 2015 13:05:27 GMT
I think we saw what BOD was getting at in his article on the evidence of the Ireland v France game at the weekend.
You would have to wonder where Gaelic football in its current defensive guise would go if county players had more time to rest and recover in a semi/professional set up.
It is a mind boggling scenario to ponder.......
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