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Post by kerrygold on Oct 7, 2014 17:03:03 GMT
Aaron Kernan has retired from intercounty football. A class footballer.
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Post by glengael on Oct 19, 2014 13:40:10 GMT
Will be interesting to see who emerges from the Cork County Final. Novel pairing.
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Post by Sons of Pitches on Nov 4, 2014 17:50:36 GMT
Kerry will have to plan without Footballer of the Year James O'Donoghue for their 2015 Allianz Football League campaign. Radio Kerry reports that the Killarney Legion star will undergo surgery on a shoulder problem on Friday and will be out of action for up to six months as a result. A May return would mean the two-time All Star will not miss any championship action, with the All-Ireland champions not set to open the defence of their provincial crown until the following month. O’Donoghue has been troubled by shoulder problems all year but had hoped to avoid going under the knife. The 24-year-old missed Kerry’s 2014 Munster Championship opener against Clare with a strain to the AC joint in his left shoulder. He returned to the Kerry side in style, hitting 0-10 in the subsequent Munster final defeat of Cork in Páirc Uí Chaoimh. O’Donoghue scored 4-24 for Kerry in their march to the All-Ireland title this season and was named Footballer of the Year last month after an incredible season in the Kingdom attack. Kerry will also be without Colm Cooper for the opening games of their Allianz League campaign. Kingdom manager Éamonn Fitzmaurice confirmed last night that the eight-time All Star will be kept in reserve until March as he continues his recovery from a cruciate knee injury he sustained last February. www.gaa.ie/gaa-news-and-videos/daily-news/2/0411141738-james-odonoghue-to-undergo-shoulder-surgery-/
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 6, 2014 20:56:50 GMT
By Paul Keane
Gaelic Players Association chairman Dónal Óg Cusack says his views on professionalism in the GAA have changed, from wanting it as a teenager to believing now that amateurism is ‘more wholesome’.
The former Cork goalkeeper and three-time All-Ireland senior medallist was speaking on the issue at the 2014 Web Summit at the RDS.
His comments come in the wake of suggestions by former All-Ireland winning Offaly manager Eugene McGee players could receive some form of pay in as little as 10 years’ time.
“When I was a younger man, 19, 20, I would have loved to have been paid for playing my game,” said Cusack. But the more I went through the career, and now when I’m looking back, I’m happy I wasn’t a professional. I think it’s actually a more wholesome model that we have in the Association.
“The danger with it for me — and it was interesting to see hear experienced commentators this week in Ireland speaking about the inevitability about the game going professional which I would disagree with — and the concern I would have is you take a young kid form Dublin, Monaghan, Cork or wherever, and you put him into a professional set-up, we all know that the lifespan of professional people is shortening, it’s the same in our games.
“He’d maybe make a full-time salary out of it but then when he gets injured or is finished playing or is no more good to the team he’s playing with, he’s dropped back out of that system and hasn’t had the life experience that the current inter-county player gets.”
The Cloyne club man said another reason he’s against embracing professionalism is that, under that arrangement, a ‘transfer system would have to be looked at and the whole ethos of our game is that our players are totally connected to the communities in which they grew up’.
© Irish Examiner Ltd. All rights reserved
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 6, 2014 20:57:17 GMT
Glad that Donal Og has copped on.
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 6, 2014 21:10:02 GMT
Most teenagers cop on when they become adults. Donal Og is top class, always was.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 6, 2014 22:48:37 GMT
So Donal Og must have been a teenager in 2006 when he was calling for professionalism. That would make him 27 now. Why did he retire so young.
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 7, 2014 10:49:16 GMT
Maybe someone could post up where Donal Og called for professionalism as an adult player, I have no recollection of him doing so apart from a recent article when he referred to it as something he would have liked when he was a teenager.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 10, 2014 7:59:36 GMT
Cork star Damien Cahalane has confirmed that he is to focus on hurling at inter-county level next year.
Cork football manager Brian Cuthbert, though disappointed, said he wished Damien well.
"It's a tough decision for any player to make, and while we are disappointed, Damien is always welcome to return to football in the future," he said.
All three of Cork's dual players in 2014 have now committed to one code only for 2015.
Cahalane and Aidan Walsh have opted for hurling, with Eoin Cadogan deciding to play football.
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Post by fitz on Nov 10, 2014 10:43:19 GMT
The only reason why Cadogan committed to footballers is because he'll get his place, based on last season he'd likely be getting bench rash on his hoop if opting for the stick, sensible decision, although I'd say disappointing for him. Good player in both codes but has that aul goading shnake in him which makes him magnetically unlikeable unless one dons the Barrys tea garb.
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Post by leesider on Nov 10, 2014 20:00:34 GMT
The only reason why Cadogan committed to footballers is because he'll get his place, based on last season he'd likely be getting bench rash on his hoop if opting for the stick, sensible decision, although I'd say disappointing for him. Good player in both codes but has that aul goading shnake in him which makes him magnetically unlikeable unless one dons the Barrys tea garb. That's true but Cads is also aware that the footballers will almost certainly get knocked out of the championship before the hurlers so when that happens he can join up with JBM's squad.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Nov 10, 2014 20:22:40 GMT
The only reason why Cadogan committed to footballers is because he'll get his place, based on last season he'd likely be getting bench rash on his hoop if opting for the stick, sensible decision, although I'd say disappointing for him. Good player in both codes but has that aul goading shnake in him which makes him magnetically unlikeable unless one dons the Barrys tea garb. That's true but Cads is also aware that the footballers will almost certainly get knocked out of the championship before the hurlers so when that happens he can join up with JBM's squad. Do you think Davy Fitz will have Podge Collins if their hurlers last longer than their footballers? It is not beyond the bounds of possibility that the Cork footballers last longer than their small ball overlords.
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Post by leesider on Nov 12, 2014 14:22:42 GMT
Do you think Davy Fitz will have Podge Collins if their hurlers last longer than their footballers? It could happen. If Clare footballers get eliminated early on and Davy asks Podge to go training with the hurlers do you think he will say no? It is not beyond the bounds of possibility that the Cork footballers last longer than their small ball overlords. Pfft, fat chance!
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Nov 12, 2014 15:10:57 GMT
Do you think Davy Fitz will have Podge Collins if their hurlers last longer than their footballers? It could happen. If Clare footballers get eliminated early on and Davy asks Podge to go training with the hurlers do you think he will say no? It is not beyond the bounds of possibility that the Cork footballers last longer than their small ball overlords. Pfft, fat chance! Ye (the Royal ye) seem to think your hurlers are great in Cork and that your footballers are pants and it really irks me. Let us have a look-see: 2014 Hurlers 17 August, Footballers 3 August 2013 Hurlers 8 September, Footballers 3 August 2012 Hurlers 12 August, Footballers 26 August2011 Hurlers 9 July, Footballers 31 July2010 Hurlers 8 August, Footballers Champions2009 Hurlers July 18, Footballers 20 September2008 Hurlers August 10, Footballers 31 August 2007 Hurlers August 5, Footballers 16 SeptemberI live and work in Cork. PM and we can make a bet on it. Five Pounds.
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Post by leesider on Nov 12, 2014 17:41:24 GMT
Ye (the Royal ye) seem to think your hurlers are great in Cork and that your footballers are pants and it really irks me. Let us have a look-see: 2014 Hurlers 17 August, Footballers 3 August 2013 Hurlers 8 September, Footballers 3 August 2012 Hurlers 12 August, Footballers 26 August2011 Hurlers 9 July, Footballers 31 July2010 Hurlers 8 August, Footballers Champions2009 Hurlers July 18, Footballers 20 September2008 Hurlers August 10, Footballers 31 August 2007 Hurlers August 5, Footballers 16 SeptemberI live and work in Cork. PM and we can make a bet on it. Five Pounds. I don't actually think the hurlers are great (they won't win the AI in 2015 either) but they are in damn sight a better state than the footballers at the moment.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 15, 2014 9:50:19 GMT
Tyrone legend Stephen O'Neill has confirmed his retirement from inter-county football, ending a 15-year career that established him as one of the finest left boots in the sport.
He retired once before, in 2008, when he was struggling with injury, but was persuaded back by manager Mickey Harte and made a vital contribution in Tyrone's All-Ireland victory over Kerry.
O'Neill subsequently refused to accept that All-Ireland medal, saying he had not earned it but confirmed how much he still had to offer when he won his third All Star the following year.
The 2005 Footballer of the Year, who turns 34 next week, was one of the marquee forwards of the modern game, who always appeared to have tons of time on the ball and was blessed with an ability to score from impossible angles.
He won senior All-Irelands in '03 and '05 as well as '08, and also won one minor and two U-21 titles.
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O'Neill's greatest season was undoubtedly 2005 when the Clan na nGael star finished as the Championship's top scorer, shooting 5-49 - 29 points more than his nearest rival, Derry's Paddy Bradley.
But he has struggled with ankle problems in the last two seasons, needing surgery, and he had to be content with mostly a substitute's role this year when he made only five appearances.
O'Neill came off the bench against Down and Monaghan in Ulster and started the Red Hand's qualifier against Louth but his last appearance for Tyrone was as a sub when Armagh knocked them out of the qualifiers.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 15, 2014 9:52:35 GMT
Stephen ONeill is up there with Mickey Linden and Pauric Joyce and Peter Canavan (just picking non Kerry players here.) One of the great forwards.
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Post by veteran on Nov 15, 2014 10:35:10 GMT
Stephen ONeill is up there with Mickey Linden and Pauric Joyce and Peter Canavan (just picking non Kerry players here.) One of the great forwards. There is no arguing with that.The term "great" should be reserved for players like Stephen. He was also able to look after himself if thugs decided to play it their way. He had a further quality. I once wrote here that Maurice Fitzgerald was one of the most cold blooded footballers I have seen. By that I meant that nothing but nothing distracted him. Stephen was equally as cold blooded.
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Post by glengael on Nov 15, 2014 13:46:40 GMT
Sad news yesterday of the death of Gus Cremin. My dad was at both 1946 Finals and often spoke about Gus Cremin. RIP.
I suppose Mick Finucane must be Kerry's oldest surviving All Ireland Medalist now.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 16, 2014 10:38:35 GMT
Tributes have been paid to double All-Ireland-winning Cork hurling coach Archdeacon Michael O’Brien, who died on Friday in a nursing home following a long illness.
A native of Innishannon, Archdeacon O’Brien - affectionately known as ‘The Canon’ - together with Justin McCarthy coached Cork to All-Ireland hurling success in Centenary Year in 1984.
But arguably his greatest achievement came six years later when he coached an unfancied Cork team to All-Ireland glory against Galway in a thrilling game which they won 5-15 to 2-21.
En route, Cork surprised the previous year’s All-Ireland champions, Tipperary, in a Munster final winning by eight points with newcomer Mark Foley scoring 2-7 from play.
The run up to the game was notable for a comment by Tipperary manager Babs Keating that “donkeys don’t win derbies”, which ‘The Canon’ exploited to motivate his players to victory.
Archdeacon O’Brien’s success in coaching the Cork hurlers to All-Ireland glory marked the first leg of a historic double as two weeks later Billy Morgan coached the footballers to similar success with Teddy McCarthy becoming the only man to win All-Ireland medals in both codes on the field of play in the same year.
Archdeacon O’Brien also enjoyed considerable success with UCC, whom he coached to eight consecutive Fitzgibbon Cup titles in the 1980s, when among his protégés was Nicky English.
Archdeacon O’Brien also coached St Finbarr’s Farranferris - where he taught for a period- to five Dr Harty Cup wins between 1969 and 1974 as well as two All-Irelands in 1972 and 1974.
Last night, Cork All-Ireland winning hurling captain in 1990 and Sunday Game pundit Tomás Mulcahy described the late Archdeacon O’Brien as a “legend of Cork hurling.
Archdeacon O’Brien- who died at Nazareth Home near Mallow following a long illness - will be buried following requiem mass at St Mary’s Church, Innishannon at 12 noon on Monday.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 16, 2014 10:41:08 GMT
Canon OBrien was a great man. He warned his Cork senior team that any man that drew a dirty stroke on Nicky English would never play for Cork again as long as he had his way. At that time if you stopped Nicky you stopped Tipp.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Nov 16, 2014 11:13:16 GMT
Ye (the Royal ye) seem to think your hurlers are great in Cork and that your footballers are pants and it really irks me. Let us have a look-see: 2014 Hurlers 17 August, Footballers 3 August 2013 Hurlers 8 September, Footballers 3 August 2012 Hurlers 12 August, Footballers 26 August2011 Hurlers 9 July, Footballers 31 July2010 Hurlers 8 August, Footballers Champions2009 Hurlers July 18, Footballers 20 September2008 Hurlers August 10, Footballers 31 August 2007 Hurlers August 5, Footballers 16 SeptemberI live and work in Cork. PM and we can make a bet on it. Five Pounds. I don't actually think the hurlers are great (they won't win the AI in 2015 either) but they are in damn sight a better state than the footballers at the moment. Five Pounds.
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Post by ballynamona on Nov 16, 2014 17:33:49 GMT
Sad news yesterday of the death of Gus Cremin. My dad was at both 1946 Finals and often spoke about Gus Cremin. RIP. I suppose Mick Finucane must be Kerry's oldest surviving All Ireland Medalist now. Mick Finucane didn't win an AI medal. He lost out on the toss of a coin on one in 1946.
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Post by glengael on Nov 19, 2014 20:08:31 GMT
Sad news yesterday of the death of Gus Cremin. My dad was at both 1946 Finals and often spoke about Gus Cremin. RIP. I suppose Mick Finucane must be Kerry's oldest surviving All Ireland Medalist now. Mick Finucane didn't win an AI medal. He lost out on the toss of a coin on one in 1946. Jeez I never knew that. I thought he'd won a medal.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 22, 2014 9:26:56 GMT
For the first time in several years I am going to watch the compromise rules game... for one reason. In this series they have a rule that a kickout must travel 40 yards or so before being contested (or something along those lines). If this is successful it might get introduced to Gaelic over time. This would mean a return of high fielding again in midfield
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Post by ballynamona on Nov 22, 2014 12:27:36 GMT
Mick Finucane didn't win an AI medal. He lost out on the toss of a coin on one in 1946. Jeez I never knew that. I thought he'd won a medal. Yes, the whole business of medals and how they were handed out was quite murky back then. There were instances of men receiving medals despite not being listed in the match programme for example. And the rule that men who played in the AI series took precedence over non-playing subs (which came to prominance in 1997) definitely did not always exist. In 2000, there was function to honour all living AI medallists. The County Board produced a booklet at that time called Kerry's Golden Heroes. It lists the winning teams and subs who got medals every year up to 2000. In 1946, the 5 medallists from outside the XV that started v Roscommon in the replay were: Gerald Teahan (Keel; played with Kerins O'Rahillys); Gus Cremin; William 'Bruddy' O'Donnell (John Mitchels); Brendan Kelliher (Keel); Tom Long (Dingle). Tom Long of 1946 is of course a different Tom Long to the man from Ventry who played for Kerry in the 1950s/1960s. He had a pub in Holy Ground, Dingle. I read an article about Mick Finucane on one occassion, where he said he took losing out on a medal quite badly. His clubmate Eddie Dowling had even more reason to be slighted. He had been captain in the Semi Final, and came on in the drawn final. As far as I know he was going to be selected to start the replay, but was injured.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 23, 2014 10:49:02 GMT
For the first time in several years I am going to watch the compromise rules game... for one reason. In this series they have a rule that a kickout must travel 40 yards or so before being contested (or something along those lines). If this is successful it might get introduced to Gaelic over time. This would mean a return of high fielding again in midfield I enjoyed this to an extent. The kickout had to travel 45 yards. This should be introduced to GAA. Michael Murphy was shockingly bad. McManus from Clontibret in Monaghan was the starman. Given a mark for catching the ball without taking either foot of the ground is a farce though. The rugby was fantastic. Magic first half. 3 penos only in the second half as Ireland defended like demons. The defensive aspects of the game were praised by the panel unlike the RTE GAA panellists after the Donegal v Kerry game when they seemed to think that defence has no part in gaelic football
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Post by veteran on Nov 23, 2014 16:25:27 GMT
I watched a recording of the rugby last night after missing it live through being delayed in Ballylongford for the North Kerry game. It was a wonderful game displaying all the best aspects of rugby. However, this is not a rugby thread and therefore I am not going to elaborate any further on the game but rather comment on something George Hook said.
Naturally, Goerge and friends were delighted with the quality of rugby and ,of course, with the result. During the euphoria, George said that rugby was " the greatest game on earth". I have no problem with that statement. Thinking your particular code is the best is one of the reasons you became an aficionado in the first place. However, Goerge went on to explain why he felt rugby was the best field game . The reason why rugby is the best game is because it displayed the "courage, commitment and character of men". Shaky ground, surely, for suggesting your game is the best there is. The inference here is that rugby is the only game which presents these characteristics for our delectation. George, is there any chance you saw, for example, the Kerry/Mayo game in Limerick last August? If you did, did you you notice the the courage, commitment and character of men? All this by men merely pursuing their hobby! As Rashers and his fellow Dubs might say, "get up the yard, George"
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Post by southward on Nov 23, 2014 18:23:35 GMT
I watched a recording of the rugby last night after missing it live through being delayed in Ballylongford for the North Kerry game. It was a wonderful game displaying all the best aspects of rugby. However, this is not a rugby thread and therefore I am not going to elaborate any further on the game but rather comment on something George Hook said. Naturally, Goerge and friends were delighted with the quality of rugby and ,of course, with the result. During the euphoria, George said that rugby was " the greatest game on earth". I have no problem with that statement. Thinking your particular code is the best is one of the reasons you became an aficionado in the first place. However, Goerge went on to explain why he felt rugby was the best field game . The reason why rugby is the best game is because it displayed the "courage, commitment and character of men". Shaky ground, surely, for suggesting your game is the best there is. The inference here is that rugby is the only game which presents these characteristics for our delectation. George, is there any chance you saw, for example, the Kerry/Mayo game in Limerick last August? If you did, did you you notice the the courage, commitment and character of men? All this by men merely pursuing their hobby! As Rashers and his fellow Dubs might say, "get up the yard, George" Hear hear, Veteran. Aiden O'Shea straining at the leash to get back on the pitch with a burst head. Or O'Mahony diving head first through a forest of legs when his own were gone. Wonderful spectacle that evening, game of the decade so far for me. Rugby is a manly game all the same, have to give them that.
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Post by donegalman on Nov 23, 2014 19:33:43 GMT
I am not a huge rugby fan, but watched some of the game yesterday in a hotel bar. Thought that it was an exciting game for sure, and that on a good day, it is as good as any other sport out there. But I would also say that like other sports, there are days when it is very poor viewing.
The real thing that rugby has going for it is its intensity and discipline combined with good sportsmanship. Rarely do you see a player feigning injury to try to get another sent off. That is something that is in our game and we need to get rid of. The standard of refereeing in rugby seems to be second to none also, there is plenty of help there for him with his officials, who will sight any dirty play or borderline scores.
The last thing I noticed was the intensity of the game right up to the end, and how well the clock being stopped for stoppages in play worked in terms of closing the door on time wasting. A few things to consider, aside from Hooks comments.
We are very close to getting things right across the board. When this happens, I think our game will possibly be the greatest field game (next to hurling)! out there.
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