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Post by sidelined on Oct 7, 2014 12:25:08 GMT
kerry last did it in 1962 and 1963, laois did it in 1996 and 1997, so can kerry retain the minor allireland?
of the 2014 team they have andrew barry at 6 and mark o connor at 9 playing, plus subs stephen o sullivan , jack morgan and jason foley. also other players were in training on a regular basis and gained valuable experience. great work being done at development squads in recent years so alot of talent coming through[.u 16 recently beat u 17 team]. colleges games will show who has got what it takes to make it as a county minor and hopefully no one will miss out because of injury like cathal bambury and cian o connor. first game next april so plenty of debate before then.
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Post by gaaloverkerry on Oct 7, 2014 16:31:07 GMT
Cian o connor wasnt left out because of injury im sure. He has been playing regularly with club since getting dropped.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2014 18:14:50 GMT
I'm fairly confident Cian was on the panel last year?
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 7, 2014 18:56:10 GMT
I heard great things about John Joe Sheehys son a few years ago. What age is he now
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Post by A.N. Other on Oct 7, 2014 19:29:18 GMT
Cian O Connor was rehabbing from injury last winter early spring and never made it into the panel after that when he regained full fitness. He was a minor the year before alright too
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Post by homerj on Oct 7, 2014 22:19:49 GMT
the first couple of posts in the last thread, pretty much nailed the team.
these lads willing to have a pop again at next years team?
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Post by keane on Oct 8, 2014 12:16:51 GMT
I heard great things about John Joe Sheehys son a few years ago. What age is he now He was minor in 2012. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2014 16:28:25 GMT
Niall Sheehy is 20 last year with U21's next year
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Post by cool1 on Oct 8, 2014 20:54:03 GMT
There were only 2 U17 players on the starting team this year. U17 squad were dissapointing in games and training beaten in one of their 2 games with the U16s and also beaten in 1st game in the Jeremiah Kearns tournament in Milltown. There does not appear to be the same standard of player for minor team 2015. U15 and U16s both appear to have decent groups but I would be worried about prospects of retaining the title or even being really competative. I do not see players of the calibre of Shane Ryan, Begley, Barry O Sullivan, Burns, Flaherty Spillane or Tomas O Sé for the coming year.
Mark O Connor, Andrew Barry, Stephen O Sullivan exempted, I do not see enough of other top level potential.
Jack Morgan, Jason Foley, Gavin White, John mark Foley, Conor Geaney and Brian Shanahan will hopefully improve on under Jack's guidance to make us competative at least.
Were there any other U17s involved during 2014 with the minor panel?
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Post by number14 on Oct 8, 2014 21:46:09 GMT
Cool is being a little harsh on the 17's - they lost in the JK tournament in sudden death after extra time. And the U17's beat the 16's second time out after underestimating them first time out. Also remember the 17's were without about seven players that were tied up with the minors.
They are a solid bunch with the next too squads (16&15) being possibly a little stronger. Retaining the AI will be a tall order but not impossible, particularly with the current management team. They should challenge and thereafter who knows.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2014 2:41:07 GMT
Goalkeepers : Eoin O'Brien (Churchill) Ray O'Shea (Kenmare) Conor McCarthy (Legion)
Backs : Gavin White (Dr.Crokes) Jason Foley (Ballydonoghue) Aidan O'Connor (Dingle) Cian O'Murchu (An Ghaeltacht) Daniel O'Brien (Glenflesk) John Foley (Kilgarvan) Mike Moynihan (Spa) David Naughton ( Dr.Crokes) David Roche (Milltown/Castlemaine) Mike Breen (Beaufort) DJ Murphy ( Gneeveguilla ) Mike Boyle (Dingle) Andrew Barry ( Na Gaeil) .
Midfield : Mark O'Connor ( Dingle) Brian O'Seanachain ( Ballydonoghue) Billy Courtney ( Dr. Crokes) Mike O' Donnell ( Austin Stacks ) JJ Herlihy ( Gneeveguilla ) Jack Goulding ( Ballyduff ) .
Forwards : Jack Morgan ( Austin Stacks ) Stephen O' Sullivan ( Templenoe) Dean Fitzgerald ( Rathmore) Conor Geaney ( Dingle ) Pat Spillane ( Templenoe ) Evan Cronin ( Spa ) Diarmuid Keating ( Skellig Rangers ) Niall O' Donoghue ( Firies ) Peter McCarthy ( Legion ) Darragh Sheehy ( Ballydonoghue ) Adam O'Dwyer ( Waterville) Jack Foley (Ballydonoghue) Gearoid Savage ( Kerins O'Rahilllys) .
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2014 16:54:58 GMT
There were only 2 U17 players on the starting team this year. U17 squad were dissapointing in games and training beaten in one of their 2 games with the U16s and also beaten in 1st game in the Jeremiah Kearns tournament in Milltown. There does not appear to be the same standard of player for minor team 2015. U15 and U16s both appear to have decent groups but I would be worried about prospects of retaining the title or even being really competative. I do not see players of the calibre of Shane Ryan, Begley, Barry O Sullivan, Burns, Flaherty Spillane or Tomas O Sé for the coming year. Mark O Connor, Andrew Barry, Stephen O Sullivan exempted, I do not see enough of other top level potential. Jack Morgan, Jason Foley, Gavin White, John mark Foley, Conor Geaney and Brian Shanahan will hopefully improve on under Jack's guidance to make us competative at least. Were there any other U17s involved during 2014 with the minor panel? David Roche (Milltown/Castlemaine). |
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Post by Premier on Oct 9, 2014 18:26:45 GMT
Goalkeepers : Eoin O'Brien (Churchill) Ray O'Shea (Kenmare) Conor McCarthy (Legion) Backs : Gavin White (Dr.Crokes) Jason Foley (Ballydonoghue) Aidan O'Connor (Dingle) Cian O'Murchu (An Ghaeltacht) Daniel O'Brien (Glenflesk) John Foley (Kilgarvan) Mike Moynihan (Spa) David Naughton ( Dr.Crokes) David Roche (Milltown/Castlemaine) Mike Breen (Beaufort) DJ Murphy ( Gneeveguilla ) Mike Boyle (Dingle) Andrew Barry ( Na Gaeil) . Midfield : Mark O'Connor ( Dingle) Brian O'Seanachain ( Ballydonoghue) Billy Courtney ( Dr. Crokes) Mike O' Donnell ( Austin Stacks ) JJ Herlihy ( Gneeveguilla ) Jack Goulding ( Ballyduff ) . Forwards : Jack Morgan ( Austin Stacks ) Stephen O' Sullivan ( Templenoe) Dean Fitzgerald ( Rathmore) Conor Geaney ( Dingle ) Pat Spillane ( Templenoe ) Evan Cronin ( Spa ) Diarmuid Keating ( Skellig Rangers ) Niall O' Donoghue ( Firies ) Peter McCarthy ( Legion ) Darragh Sheehy ( Ballydonoghue ) Adam O'Dwyer ( Waterville) Jack Foley (Ballydonoghue) Gearoid Savage ( Kerins O'Rahilllys) . Jack Morgan is a back and Pat Spillane won't be good enough for the minors next year |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2014 19:42:28 GMT
Goalkeepers : Eoin O'Brien (Churchill) Ray O'Shea (Kenmare) Conor McCarthy (Legion) Backs : Gavin White (Dr.Crokes) Jason Foley (Ballydonoghue) Aidan O'Connor (Dingle) Cian O'Murchu (An Ghaeltacht) Daniel O'Brien (Glenflesk) John Foley (Kilgarvan) Mike Moynihan (Spa) David Naughton ( Dr.Crokes) David Roche (Milltown/Castlemaine) Mike Breen (Beaufort) DJ Murphy ( Gneeveguilla ) Mike Boyle (Dingle) Andrew Barry ( Na Gaeil) . Midfield : Mark O'Connor ( Dingle) Brian O'Seanachain ( Ballydonoghue) Billy Courtney ( Dr. Crokes) Mike O' Donnell ( Austin Stacks ) JJ Herlihy ( Gneeveguilla ) Jack Goulding ( Ballyduff ) . Forwards : Jack Morgan ( Austin Stacks ) Stephen O' Sullivan ( Templenoe) Dean Fitzgerald ( Rathmore) Conor Geaney ( Dingle ) Pat Spillane ( Templenoe ) Evan Cronin ( Spa ) Diarmuid Keating ( Skellig Rangers ) Niall O' Donoghue ( Firies ) Peter McCarthy ( Legion ) Darragh Sheehy ( Ballydonoghue ) Adam O'Dwyer ( Waterville) Jack Foley (Ballydonoghue) Gearoid Savage ( Kerins O'Rahilllys) . Jack Morgan is a back and Pat Spillane won't be good enough for the minors next year Also Niall Donohue (Firies) will be U16 next year and Gearoid Savage never made the cut for Kerry U16 |
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Post by dingle123 on Oct 9, 2014 20:23:22 GMT
Jack Morgan is a back and Pat Spillane won't be good enough for the minors next year Also Niall Donohue (Firies) will be U16 next year and Gearoid Savage never made the cut for Kerry U16 agreed. Some of these players you mentioned won't be anywhere near that level next year. No disrespect to any of them but a combination of factors (predominantly youth) will keep them far away from the kerry minors next year. |
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Post by gaaloverkerry on Oct 9, 2014 20:51:09 GMT
Na crocaigh do you even watch underage football in kerry?
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Post by westarebest on Oct 9, 2014 21:11:19 GMT
Was talking to a friend of mine in Tralee last week and next years minors came up in conversation. Apparently some very good players again next year! The following players were involved with the Kerry U17s who took part in the Jerimiah Kerins Tournament a few weeks back!
Goalkeepers: Eoin O Brien (Churchill)
Backs: Tom O'Sullivan (Dingle) Eoin Curry (Anauscaul) Darren Brosnan (Gneeveguilla) Darragh O Doherthy (Legion) David Roche (Milltown/Castlemaine) Dara O Shea (Kenmare) Cian O Muruchu (Gaeltacht) Dj Murphy (Gneeveguilla) Rob Leen (Legion) Colin Griffin (Austin Stacks)
Midfielders: Michael O Donnell (Austin Stacks) Calvin Foley (Austin Stacks) Jack Daly (St Marys) Conor Culloty (Legion)
Forwards:Evan Cronin (Spa) Adam O Shea (Dr Crokes) Louis Ryle (Austin Stacks) Lee O Donoghue (Glenflesk) Pat Spillane (Templenoe) Darragh Sheehy (Ballydonoghue) Diarmuid Keating (Skellig Rangers) Sean Bambury (Gaeltacht) Jack Foley (Ballydonoghue) Kieran Lynch (Ballydonoghue) Gareth Brosnan Hickey (Dingle)
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Oct 9, 2014 21:35:48 GMT
Jack Morgan is a back and Pat Spillane won't be good enough for the minors next year Also Niall Donohue (Firies) will be U16 next year and Gearoid Savage never made the cut for Kerry U16Was he not in the States for about 2 months or not far off it during the summer so wasnt around for the Kerry under 16s He missed several KOR games also |
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Oct 9, 2014 21:53:09 GMT
Mark Sugrue Renard will be a handful went to the dingle and collate na sceilige game and he lorded midfield he's around 6 foot 4 and a very strong lad and looks very fit the players I thought impressed last week were Alan curran renArd Aswell renard always have a good players coming up pat Spillane not good enough for minors either what other goal keepers have they? The goalie for colaiste the last day was pretty impressive but I never got his name, it will be hard to get a goalie as good as Shane Ryan ! I imagine that Eoghan O Brien will start- will Shane Foley be anywhere near it? I havent seen him in a while but he looked like a really good prospect when I previously watched him play |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2014 23:05:56 GMT
Foley is good . Moriarty from Lispole . Leane from Milltown/Castlemaine . Eoin O'Sullivan from St.Michaels Foilmore .
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Post by kerrys01 on Oct 10, 2014 6:28:31 GMT
Don't think eoghan o briens kick outs good enough! Who's Shane foley where does he play? . He is from strand rd plays in goals. |
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Post by kerryexile on Oct 10, 2014 11:56:45 GMT
No offence! Players you have said that wont make the panel : .................. Back up the bus here. These are young lads you are talking about here and who the * are you to tell them they aren't good enough. Like your judgements, this thread is premature... what next the Kerry Minors 2020?
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Post by hurlingman on Oct 10, 2014 12:02:53 GMT
No offence! Players you have said that wont make the panel : Conor Mccarthy (Legion) - Too small and very young. , Daniel o Brien (Glenflesk) way to young , John Foley (Kilgarvin) , Mike Moynihan (Spa) Way to young havnt got game for Sem seniors yet , David Naughton (Dr.crokes) To young wont make sem team , DJ murphy (Gneeveguilla) Too slow good player improving but come to early , mike boyle (Dingle) Played no part in Dingle team last year be suprised if made it , Billy Courtney (Dr.Crokes) too slow , Too young and be lucky make panel in his own age in 2016 , JJ Herlihy (gneeveguilla) good player but wont make it , Jack Goulding (Ballyduff) - Too slow wont make it near panel , Dean Fitzgerald (Rathmore) Too young and gone way back , Pat spillane (Templenoe) Just not good enough, Diarmuid Keating (Skellig Rangers) lacks paste good player but a bit too soon i reckon, Niall o donoghue (Firies) TOO YOUNG! , Peter Mccarthy (Legion) Not getting game for sem team too young , Gearoid savage (Kerins o Rahillys) good player but i dont think so . Player that i think will come near panel. David Clifford (Fossa) , Lee o donoghue (Glenflesk) , Dara Moynihan (Spa) , Sean bambury (Gaeltacht) , Mike breen (Beaufort) , David Roache (Miltown ) Back up the bus here. These are young lads you are talking about here and who the * are you to tell them they aren't good enough. Like your judgements, this thread is premature... what next the Kerry Minors 2020? Its all well and good to be naming players on here for next years minors, but crazy to say they will or wont be on the team. In the 6 or so months before they even start anything could happen. Lads could pick up an injury, lose form etc whereas others might get a good run of form you just cant say |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2014 13:31:54 GMT
Na crocaigh do you even watch underage football in kerry? Ha thats Funny . I know for sure i know a lot more than you . Daniel O'Brien will be 17 next year . Mikey Boyle is starting Corner Back on a very good Dingle minor team . Billy Courtney will be 17 and was Crokes best player at u16 level this year and plays with Crokes Minors who are in the County Final . David Naughton is on Crokes Minors and playing very well at wing back and was on the East Kerry u16 team that won the County . How do you know they wont make it . DJ Murphy had a good year Full Back for the East Kerry minors this year . Pat Spillane was on the Kenmare u21s this year that won the County Final . Diarmuid Keating will be in his last year next year at minor level next year . How is it too soon Ha Ha . You Named David Clifford from Fossa at he is 15 . he is under u16 again in 2015 . ha ha hes only 15 ha ha But you know more than me right . |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2014 14:05:09 GMT
Na crocaigh do you even watch underage football in kerry? Ha thats Funny . I know for sure i know a lot more than you . Daniel O'Brien will be 17 next year . Mikey Boyle is starting Corner Back on a very good Dingle minor team . Billy Courtney will be 17 and was Crokes best player at u16 level this year and plays with Crokes Minors who are in the County Final . David Naughton is on Crokes Minors and playing very well at wing back and was on the East Kerry u16 team that won the County . How do you know they wont make it . DJ Murphy had a good year Full Back for the East Kerry minors this year . Pat Spillane was on the Kenmare u21s this year that won the County Final . Diarmuid Keating will be in his last year next year at minor level next year . How is it too soon Ha Ha . You Named David Clifford from Fossa at he is 15 . he is under u16 again in 2015 . ha ha hes only 15 ha ha But you know more than me right . Nacrocaigh you are absolutely spot on. The likes of Daniel O Brien east Kerry Minor Centre back) David Naughton Billy Courtney could very well make the panel gaaloverkerry get your facts right before making big statements please |
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Post by shannonsider on Oct 10, 2014 15:08:53 GMT
Certainly Na Crocaigh knows more about the underage talent in Kerry than 95% of posters here in my view. Sure, he might know a bit more about the East Kerry players (as he'll probably admit himself) but from recollection he has called a few minor and other squads fairly accurately in the past, so he clearly is a real fan and goes to a lot of games.
What IS ridiculous here is posters slating 16/17 year olds saying "he'll never make it" and this kind of sh*t..cop yourselves on. There is no telling at that age if a guy will "make it2 or not and slating them is certainly not going to help.
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Post by gaaaddiction on Oct 10, 2014 21:02:41 GMT
Ridiculos stuff! Were now in October players have 6 months to get themselves in shape! Saying lads wont make it because there too slow! If there too slow why are they on development squads every year and on there district teams playing big roles!
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Post by homerj on Oct 10, 2014 22:53:56 GMT
Anybody else heard a member of the backroom has packed it in?
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Post by kerryeye on Oct 10, 2014 23:00:22 GMT
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Post by homerj on Oct 11, 2014 7:03:30 GMT
The wording of his quotes suggest a fall out. Any idea whats happened? |
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