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Post by ardfertnarrie on Sept 26, 2014 15:12:30 GMT
Name your 2014 All Stars(not who you think will get them). Just for the craic like!
1 Durcan (Barring his mistake, he's had a great season)
2 Murphy, 3 McGee, 4 Higgins
5 Colm Boyle, Crowley, McGlynn
8 Moran, 9 Gallagher
10 Flynn, 11 Connolly, 12 Donnchadh Walsh
13 JOD, 14 Murphy, 15 Cillian O'Connor
The only two positions that I troubled were number 12 and 14. Was tempted to give Star the number 14 but that would have been completely unfair to Michael Murphy, considering star only played 2 games and a bit. The other was 12 to Walsh over McHugh. McHugh had a stinker of a final so can't justify giving him the award over one of our most consistent performers this year. Also it would have given Donegal 6 and Kerry 4 which would be mad!
Aidan O'Shea is also very unlucky to miss out, but can't find a place for him.
So that's 5 for Kerry, 5 for Donegal, 3 Mayo, 2 Dublin.
As I said its only a bit of craic.
Player of the Year - James
Young Player of the Year - Ryan McHugh
Game of the Year - Kerry v Mayo replay.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Sept 26, 2014 15:18:16 GMT
Keith Higgins and McGee are nailed on as far as I am concerned and Colm Boyle. I might get rid of McGlynn and put Paul Murphy there.
D Walsh has to get one --- he should have got one last year over James OD.
I wouldn't give one to Cillian O'Connor... put Star in the corner.
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Post by keane on Sept 26, 2014 15:21:18 GMT
If Donaghy hasn't enough minutes played to get one then you can't really give one to Murphy at FF either. Donaghy probably has more minutes at FF this year than Murphy.
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Post by greengold35 on Sept 26, 2014 16:57:45 GMT
The media seem to think that Cillian O'Connor is one of the best forwards around but I think he needs another few years to prove himself if that's the case. He was unreliable in both games against us , missing vital frees that would have put the game beyond us- in the first period of extra time he missed a '45' and a free fron play from around the same distance. His kicking in the game was erratic at times. Analysing the stats from the games played prior to the replay, he had scored 3-31, 0-10 of this was from play against New York, Roscommon, Galway & ourselves; he scored 2-5 against New York, both goals from the penalty spot; he scored 1-8 in the drawn match, 0-3 from play. In contrast, James O'D had scored 2-18 prior to the replay, 2-16 from play. He ( O'Connor) is a fine footballer but so is Alan Brogan, Shane Walsh, Diarmuid Connolly, Jamie Clarke- he has the potential to be great but that's exactly what it is- potential!
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Post by kerryeye on Sept 26, 2014 17:14:33 GMT
The media seem to think that Cillian O'Connor is one of the best forwards around but I think he needs another few years to prove himself if that's the case. He was unreliable in both games against us , missing vital frees that would have put the game beyond us- in the first period of extra time he missed a '45' and a free fron play from around the same distance. His kicking in the game was erratic at times. Analysing the stats from the games played prior to the replay, he had scored 3-31, 0-10 of this was from play against New York, Roscommon, Galway & ourselves; he scored 2-5 against New York, both goals from the penalty spot; he scored 1-8 in the drawn match, 0-3 from play. In contrast, James O'D had scored 2-18 prior to the replay, 2-16 from play. He ( O'Connor) is a fine footballer but so is Alan Brogan, Shane Walsh, Diarmuid Connolly, Jamie Clarke- he has the potential to be great but that's exactly what it is- potential! Fully agree with everything you have said there on O Connor.1-12 from play all year isnt a great return from a player coming out of the connacht championship and a game against New York.
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Post by Premier on Sept 26, 2014 17:33:23 GMT
Name your 2014 All Stars(not who you think will get them). Just for the craic like! 1 Durcan (Barring his mistake, he's had a great season) 2 Murphy, 3 McGee, 4 Higgins 5 Colm Boyle, Crowley, McGlynn 8 Moran, 9 Gallagher 10 Flynn, 11 Connolly, 12 Donnchadh Walsh 13 JOD, 14 Murphy, 15 Cillian O'Connor The only two positions that I troubled were number 12 and 14. Was tempted to give Star the number 14 but that would have been completely unfair to Michael Murphy, considering star only played 2 games and a bit. The other was 12 to Walsh over McHugh. McHugh had a stinker of a final so can't justify giving him the award over one of our most consistent performers this year. Also it would have given Donegal 6 and Kerry 4 which would be mad! Aidan O'Shea is also very unlucky to miss out, but can't find a place for him. So that's 5 for Kerry, 5 for Donegal, 3 Mayo, 2 Dublin. As I said its only a bit of craic. Player of the Year - James Young Player of the Year - Ryan McHugh Game of the Year - Kerry v Mayo replay. Aidan O'Mahoney is a dead cert for me
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Post by ardfertnarrie on Sept 26, 2014 19:49:23 GMT
Name your 2014 All Stars(not who you think will get them). Just for the craic like! 1 Durcan (Barring his mistake, he's had a great season) 2 Murphy, 3 McGee, 4 Higgins 5 Colm Boyle, Crowley, McGlynn 8 Moran, 9 Gallagher 10 Flynn, 11 Connolly, 12 Donnchadh Walsh 13 JOD, 14 Murphy, 15 Cillian O'Connor The only two positions that I troubled were number 12 and 14. Was tempted to give Star the number 14 but that would have been completely unfair to Michael Murphy, considering star only played 2 games and a bit. The other was 12 to Walsh over McHugh. McHugh had a stinker of a final so can't justify giving him the award over one of our most consistent performers this year. Also it would have given Donegal 6 and Kerry 4 which would be mad! Aidan O'Shea is also very unlucky to miss out, but can't find a place for him. So that's 5 for Kerry, 5 for Donegal, 3 Mayo, 2 Dublin. As I said its only a bit of craic. Player of the Year - James Young Player of the Year - Ryan McHugh Game of the Year - Kerry v Mayo replay. Aidan O'Mahoney is a dead cert for me Hope you're right .
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Post by lár na páirce on Sept 26, 2014 20:57:13 GMT
Paul Durcan.No question the best keeper this season
Marc O Sé.Proved his worth to the Kingdom again this year in the semi replay & final
Neil McGee.Best full back in the country the last 3/4 years continued that form this year
Keith Higgins.Another quality year for the Mayo man,Is Mayo's most important player IMO
Aidan O Mahoney.Warrior like performance in Limerick & annihilated Michael Murphy in the final
Peter Crowley.Near the MOTM match in Limerick & the final
Paul Murphy.MOTM in AI Final and just really really solid throughout
David Moran.For his performance v Mayo alone
Paul Flynn.A little bit of cheating moving him here but he has had an wonderful 2014
Donnacha Walsh.GIVE THIS MAN AN ALL - STAR WE ALL LOVE HIM !!!!!
Diarmuid Connolly.Arguably the most talented player in the country,His performances for Vincents were amazing
Ryan McHugh.Was brilliant in Ulster and the semi final
Micheal Murphy.He might not get on the scoreboard enough but as been vital to McGuinness's men all year
Kieran Donaghy.Changed the championship
James O Donoghue.What more can you say about this guy
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Post by fitz on Sept 26, 2014 21:59:34 GMT
Going to mull this over a bit. Can a player get two All Stars in the team for one year?
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Post by sullyschoice on Sept 26, 2014 22:48:28 GMT
I wouldnt think Kieran Donaghy will get one.
Marc O se wont get one.
Paul Murphy will.
I would love to see Aidan O Mahoney get one, likewise Donnacha Walsh. David Moran is nailed on as is JOD.
Durkan should have blown his chance with a horror show in final. Not just for his assist to Donaghy but also the one that he let bounce over his head early on. I wouldnt give it to Kelly necessarily, but who else... hennelly?
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Post by legendz on Sept 27, 2014 21:59:30 GMT
Name your 2014 All Stars(not who you think will get them). Just for the craic like! 1 Durcan (Barring his mistake, he's had a great season) 2 Murphy, 3 McGee, 4 Higgins 5 Colm Boyle, Crowley, McGlynn 8 Moran, 9 Gallagher 10 Flynn, 11 Connolly, 12 Donnchadh Walsh 13 JOD, 14 Murphy, 15 Cillian O'Connor The only two positions that I troubled were number 12 and 14. Was tempted to give Star the number 14 but that would have been completely unfair to Michael Murphy, considering star only played 2 games and a bit. The other was 12 to Walsh over McHugh. McHugh had a stinker of a final so can't justify giving him the award over one of our most consistent performers this year. Also it would have given Donegal 6 and Kerry 4 which would be mad! Aidan O'Shea is also very unlucky to miss out, but can't find a place for him. So that's 5 for Kerry, 5 for Donegal, 3 Mayo, 2 Dublin. As I said its only a bit of craic. Player of the Year - James Young Player of the Year - Ryan McHugh Game of the Year - Kerry v Mayo replay. I'd add Mahony and Star. 7 for Kerry in total. M Murphy hasn't done enough.
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Post by fitz on Sept 28, 2014 1:32:14 GMT
O'Mahoney is nailed on. McGlynn no, McHugh no, Flynn, Connolly nailed on. Both Murphys nailed on, no goalkeeper, 14 players only. Marc no. Higgins definitely, D Moran definitely, Neil McGee definitely, JOD 'Hamas' definitely, Crowley definitely, O'Connor Imo definitely, Kavanagh, Toye,Vaughan - in no order
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Post by kerry4life on Sept 28, 2014 7:15:17 GMT
Star has to get one, Players should be rated on the big games, he saved us v Mayo in game 1, in game 2 he was my man of the match excluding Moran's display and he had one of his greatest games ever for Kerry. In the All Ireland final he scored 1-2. Should not be a difficult decision as Kerry would have no All Ireland without that man.
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Post by kerry4life on Sept 28, 2014 7:45:33 GMT
Brian Kelly
Keith Higgins Neil McGee Paul Murphy
Colm Boyle Peter Crowley Aidan o Mahoney
David Moran Neil Gallagher
Diarmuid Connolly Michael Murphy Donnchadh Walsh
James O'Donoghue Kieran Donaghy Cillian O'Connor
Mahoney and Murphy out of position. Murphy spends most of his time way out the pitch anyway. I think in my opinion Mahoney and Star deserve an All Star thats why I have 2 men out of position. The rest pick themselves. Kelly has to get one as Durcan making such an error in a final will surely have cost him an All Star, saying that he may still get it.
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Post by ardfertnarrie on Sept 28, 2014 10:29:23 GMT
I can't see Kelly getting one.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2014 14:10:22 GMT
Some of ye are dreaming thinking that Kerry will end up with 7 or 8 all stars. Serious case of green and gold tinted spectacles,
People's criteria are all over the place. Some think donaghy should be picked because it is all about the big games, others then are suggesting donncha for his consistency.
My pick would be Aidan, Paul Murphy, Crowley, Moran, jod at a minimum with donaghy next in line.
Brian Kelly does not have a hope and rightly so.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Sept 28, 2014 14:42:45 GMT
Contrary to Colm O'Rourke ideology, or codology, All Star selection justifiably favours end of season performances and which is the highest level. For that Star, Aidan and Paul Murphy have nailed their places. I suppose Crowley, Moran, Donnacha and James would be safe also. On Durcan v Hennelly I couldn't call it. How many more Kerry ones is a guess but you'd have to say Neil Magee, Neil Gallagher and Murphy would be sure enough. Who would be better than Cillian o'Connor at CF? Geaney has some year and if he goaled the one that barely went over the bar in the final I'd say he'd be confident of a place. What abouyt Marc, Killian, Maher?
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Post by Ballyfireside on Sept 28, 2014 14:43:14 GMT
Contrary to Colm O'Rourke ideology, or codology, All Star selection justifiably favours end of season performances and which is the highest level. For that Star, Aidan and Paul Murphy have nailed their places and young Ryan McHugh would be eliminated as he simply didn't turn up in the final, well he may have but only got in the gate as Paul Murphy kept him in his play pen. I suppose Crowley, Moran, Donnacha and James would be safe also. On Durcan v Hennelly I couldn't call it. How many more Kerry ones is a guess but you'd have to say Neil Magee, Neil Gallagher and Murphy would be sure enough. Who would be better than Cillian O'Connor at CF? Geaney has some year and if he goaled the one that barely went over the bar in the final I'd say he'd be confident of a place. What about Marc and Killian, would Maher lose out?
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Post by onlykerry on Sept 28, 2014 15:53:47 GMT
Brian Kelly Keith Higgins Neil McGee Paul Murphy Colm Boyle Peter Crowley Aidan o Mahoney David Moran Neil Gallagher Diarmuid Connolly Michael Murphy Donnchadh Walsh James O'Donoghue Kieran Donaghy Cillian O'Connor Mahoney and Murphy out of position. Murphy spends most of his time way out the pitch anyway. I think in my opinion Mahoney and Star deserve an All Star thats why I have 2 men out of position. The rest pick themselves. Kelly has to get one as Durcan making such an error in a final will surely have cost him an All Star, saying that he may still get it. You are dreaming big with little chance of getting 8. All Star selection is BS at the best of times as it is biased so heavily towards the championship performances. should be renamed the team of the Championship as it ignores league year after year and is also totally focused on successful county teams. Would love to see the basis for selection made public - justify why players get this honour.
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Post by legendz on Sept 28, 2014 15:55:17 GMT
Brian Kelly Keith Higgins Neil McGee Paul Murphy Colm Boyle Peter Crowley Aidan o Mahoney David Moran Neil Gallagher Diarmuid Connolly Michael Murphy Donnchadh Walsh James O'Donoghue Kieran Donaghy Cillian O'Connor Mahoney and Murphy out of position. Murphy spends most of his time way out the pitch anyway. I think in my opinion Mahoney and Star deserve an All Star thats why I have 2 men out of position. The rest pick themselves. Kelly has to get one as Durcan making such an error in a final will surely have cost him an All Star, saying that he may still get it. I'd go along with all that apart from the goalkeeper. We're entitled to look on this through green and gold tinted glasses but even that a side, the 7 players out the field - Murphy, O'Mahoney, Crowley, Moran, Walsh, Start and JOD!
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Post by kerry4life on Sept 28, 2014 16:21:19 GMT
Brian Kelly Keith Higgins Neil McGee Paul Murphy Colm Boyle Peter Crowley Aidan o Mahoney David Moran Neil Gallagher Diarmuid Connolly Michael Murphy Donnchadh Walsh James O'Donoghue Kieran Donaghy Cillian O'Connor Mahoney and Murphy out of position. Murphy spends most of his time way out the pitch anyway. I think in my opinion Mahoney and Star deserve an All Star thats why I have 2 men out of position. The rest pick themselves. Kelly has to get one as Durcan making such an error in a final will surely have cost him an All Star, saying that he may still get it. You are dreaming big with little chance of getting 8. All Star selection is BS at the best of times as it is biased so heavily towards the championship performances. should be renamed the team of the Championship as it ignores league year after year and is also totally focused on successful county teams. Would love to see the basis for selection made public - justify why players get this honour. Its a bit of craic lad, so please spare me the I'm dreaming big and "All Star selection is BS at the best of times" Our All Stars 2014 is the name of the thread, I believe we are entitled to the All Stars I mentioned, I don't need you telling me your negative taughts about All star awards are BS, reply to the thread if thats the case but don't be quoting me and telling me about how you think All star awards are BS,your entitled to your opinion but keep me out of it and stop annoying me, its a bit of fun so clear off and annoy someone else.
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Post by kerry4life on Sept 28, 2014 16:38:28 GMT
Brian Kelly Keith Higgins Neil McGee Paul Murphy Colm Boyle Peter Crowley Aidan o Mahoney David Moran Neil Gallagher Diarmuid Connolly Michael Murphy Donnchadh Walsh James O'Donoghue Kieran Donaghy Cillian O'Connor Mahoney and Murphy out of position. Murphy spends most of his time way out the pitch anyway. I think in my opinion Mahoney and Star deserve an All Star thats why I have 2 men out of position. The rest pick themselves. Kelly has to get one as Durcan making such an error in a final will surely have cost him an All Star, saying that he may still get it. I'd go along with all that apart from the goalkeeper. We're entitled to look on this through green and gold tinted glasses but even that a side, the 7 players out the field - Murphy, O'Mahoney, Crowley, Moran, Walsh, Start and JOD! I agree Kelly will struggle and most lightly won't nap an all Star. I think Durcan could struggle though as that was a huge error to make in a final. Unless thry give it to somebody else. Star could also struggle, I know we wont get 8 and I am being biased haha but I think the guys mentioned deserve them. Thats all really we could get 7 though, those 2 x Mayo games will stand to guys chances of getting one.
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Post by onlykerry on Sept 28, 2014 16:44:52 GMT
You are dreaming big with little chance of getting 8. All Star selection is BS at the best of times as it is biased so heavily towards the championship performances. should be renamed the team of the Championship as it ignores league year after year and is also totally focused on successful county teams. Would love to see the basis for selection made public - justify why players get this honour. Its a bit of craic lad, so please spare me the I'm dreaming big and "All Star selection is BS at the best of times" Our All Stars 2014 is the name of the thread, I believe we are entitled to the All Stars I mentioned, I don't need you telling me your negative taughts about All star awards are BS, reply to the thread if thats the case but don't be quoting me and telling me about how you think All star awards are BS,your entitled to your opinion but keep me out of it and stop annoying me, its a bit of fun so clear off and annoy someone else. Touchy - gladly leave you to your dreams. END
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Post by kerry4life on Sept 28, 2014 17:02:25 GMT
Its a bit of craic lad, so please spare me the I'm dreaming big and "All Star selection is BS at the best of times" Our All Stars 2014 is the name of the thread, I believe we are entitled to the All Stars I mentioned, I don't need you telling me your negative taughts about All star awards are BS, reply to the thread if thats the case but don't be quoting me and telling me about how you think All star awards are BS,your entitled to your opinion but keep me out of it and stop annoying me, its a bit of fun so clear off and annoy someone else. Touchy - gladly leave you to your dreams. END Good boy
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Post by Ballyfireside on Sept 28, 2014 17:08:54 GMT
I wouldn't agree with onlykerry, it is skewed towards the championship, and the end of the championship, because that is where the best teams end up. Yes, there maybe stars in poor teams but unless we see a lot of them how can we put them ahead of those who perform inn the final.
And then you have the contention of best players v combinations, at inter-county level fellas have to fit in and we all know situations where a better player often warmed the bench. Not alone is wee Umbrolly so wrong re the conveyor belt, every county has one Joe, but it's what is on it, and who is picking the nuggets, spoilt for choice! I rest my case! Joe is a barrister, a Senior Counsel, Kerry are, well, wider counsel!
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Post by seamo on Sept 28, 2014 18:49:58 GMT
Brian Kelly Keith Higgins Neil McGee Paul Murphy Colm Boyle Peter Crowley Aidan o Mahoney David Moran Neil Gallagher Diarmuid Connolly Michael Murphy Donnchadh Walsh James O'Donoghue Kieran Donaghy Cillian O'Connor Mahoney and Murphy out of position. Murphy spends most of his time way out the pitch anyway. I think in my opinion Mahoney and Star deserve an All Star thats why I have 2 men out of position. The rest pick themselves. Kelly has to get one as Durcan making such an error in a final will surely have cost him an All Star, saying that he may still get it. You are dreaming big with little chance of getting 8. All Star selection is BS at the best of times as it is biased so heavily towards the championship performances. should be renamed the team of the Championship as it ignores league year after year and is also totally focused on successful county teams. Would love to see the basis for selection made public - justify why players get this honour. Well of course it should be based on championship performance!!! Who gives 2 cents about the league! The league is all about the championship, nothing else. And while I'm at it, all that talk about Diarmuid Connelly's performance's for his club is some of the biggest bs I've ever heard. How many Legion games did those tools see in the past 12 months?
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Post by fitz on Sept 28, 2014 19:17:14 GMT
Paul Flynn is a cert I believe, I think unfortunately Donnacha may again miss out. Connolly's club form is indeed a total aside, his form in the Dublin jerser has been outstanding, so he will surely get one. I blind spotted Neily, my last post was made post imbibing, if not obvious. I put Vaughan in because he made very big plays against us, that should have won the first match and he saved the replay in normal time, he's pretty solid and consistent. Rory Kavanagh had a solid game v Dublin and was decent in the final, but I'll still swap Neily back in. Star's case is strong, he can't help if he's not picked, but perceived value per minute of play played per player, he's up at the top of the stack. So maybe Murphy moves to CF, with Flynn and Connolly with Hamas, O'Connor and Star up top?
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Post by southward on Sept 28, 2014 19:54:00 GMT
Paul Flynn is a cert I believe, I think unfortunately Donnacha may again miss out. Connolly's club form is indeed a total aside, his form in the Dublin jerser has been outstanding, so he will surely get one. I blind spotted Neily, my last post was made post imbibing, if not obvious. I put Vaughan in because he made very big plays against us, that should have won the first match and he saved the replay in normal time, he's pretty solid and consistent. Rory Kavanagh had a solid game v Dublin and was decent in the final, but I'll still swap Neily back in. Star's case is strong, he can't help if he's not picked, but perceived value per minute of play played per player, he's up at the top of the stack. So maybe Murphy moves to CF, with Flynn and Connolly with Hamas, O'Connor and Star up top? ?
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Post by southward on Sept 28, 2014 19:56:56 GMT
Any chance BJK getting one for his destruction of Donegal's kickouts ?
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Post by legendz on Sept 28, 2014 20:10:25 GMT
Paul Flynn is a cert I believe, I think unfortunately Donnacha may again miss out. Connolly's club form is indeed a total aside, his form in the Dublin jerser has been outstanding, so he will surely get one. I blind spotted Neily, my last post was made post imbibing, if not obvious. I put Vaughan in because he made very big plays against us, that should have won the first match and he saved the replay in normal time, he's pretty solid and consistent. Rory Kavanagh had a solid game v Dublin and was decent in the final, but I'll still swap Neily back in. Star's case is strong, he can't help if he's not picked, but perceived value per minute of play played per player, he's up at the top of the stack. So maybe Murphy moves to CF, with Flynn and Connolly with Hamas, O'Connor and Star up top? ? Ha ha, Newstalk call JOD - "Hamez". Spanish way of saying James. It started when the Columbian sharp shooter was in scoring form in the World Cup as was Hamez O'Donoghue for Kerry!
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