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Post by agoalisworth3pts on Aug 13, 2014 15:13:53 GMT
north kerrys intermediate and junior and novice championships have been got rid of and replaced by cups which means junior players in the district now have no championship to play in just league and cups! this happened at the last meeting of the north kerry board as some of the stronger clubs said they wudnt be able to field teams in championships as they had used junior players in the county competitions which is fair enough you will always use one or two from the b team but it seems numbers were up in the 9 and 10s which leads to ask who or where is there named first 15?? personally feel very weak on the north kerry board to come up with this loophole so teams can play players who are also playing in their a teams compete in these cups does anyone else know a district in kerry or even ireland where a junior player has no championship football to play in??
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Post by seamo on Aug 13, 2014 20:03:14 GMT
"junior players in the district now have no championship to play in just league and cups" A cup is championship! I'm not fully aware of NK situation, but given it's an time of emigration, I would think that it is a good move to not fix competitions/games that can't be fulfilled.
I agree that the Junior player shouldn't be forgotten, but if as you say they're are "league and cups", than I think that's reasonably enough.
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Post by agoalisworth3pts on Aug 13, 2014 23:11:29 GMT
"junior players in the district now have no championship to play in just league and cups" A cup is championship! I'm not fully aware of NK situation, but given it's an time of emigration, I would think that it is a good move to not fix competitions/games that can't be fulfilled. I agree that the Junior player shouldn't be forgotten, but if as you say they're are "league and cups", than I think that's reasonably enough. no the board have made it clear the cup is not championship and there is no rules for the cups bar your not in the first 15 you can play which isnt right junior players should have championship football its nothing to do with teams not fielding its that they would be weak like last years intermediate championship winner moyvane played senior championship a week later and had 8 of their intermediate team playing senior championship which will happen with teams again this year and that cant be right only north kerry board dont obey any rules |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 14, 2014 9:13:20 GMT
"junior players in the district now have no championship to play in just league and cups" A cup is championship! I'm not fully aware of NK situation, but given it's an time of emigration, I would think that it is a good move to not fix competitions/games that can't be fulfilled. I agree that the Junior player shouldn't be forgotten, but if as you say they're are "league and cups", than I think that's reasonably enough. no the board have made it clear the cup is not championship and there is no rules for the cups bar your not in the first 15 you can play which isnt right junior players should have championship football its nothing to do with teams not fielding its that they would be weak like last years intermediate championship winner moyvane played senior championship a week later and had 8 of their intermediate team playing senior championship which will happen with teams again this year and that cant be right only north kerry board dont obey any rules Sounds like a championship to me as well! This is standard. |
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Post by agoalisworth3pts on Aug 14, 2014 12:31:26 GMT
no the board have made it clear the cup is not championship and there is no rules for the cups bar your not in the first 15 you can play which isnt right junior players should have championship football its nothing to do with teams not fielding its that they would be weak like last years intermediate championship winner moyvane played senior championship a week later and had 8 of their intermediate team playing senior championship which will happen with teams again this year and that cant be right only north kerry board dont obey any rules Sounds like a championship to me as well! This is standard.well it is but in name by calling it a cup the board need not apply championship rules meaning all players who playing in the county intermediate junior novice championship for their seniors can play in these cups as there is no rules not sure is this the norm in other districts or not! |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 14, 2014 14:14:12 GMT
Sounds like a championship to me as well! This is standard.well it is but in name by calling it a cup the board need not apply championship rules meaning all players who playing in the county intermediate junior novice championship for their seniors can play in these cups as there is no rules not sure is this the norm in other districts or not! This is absolutely the norm. Clubs name their 15 senior players and the rest are free to play Bs. |
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Post by buck02 on Aug 14, 2014 14:45:57 GMT
well it is but in name by calling it a cup the board need not apply championship rules meaning all players who playing in the county intermediate junior novice championship for their seniors can play in these cups as there is no rules not sure is this the norm in other districts or not! . I believe you are incorrect. If a player, who isn't on the first 15, plays in the county senior, intermediate, junior or novice championships, he then cannot play in the "junior" championships like the Molyneaux Cup or district "junior" championships. Similarly if a player not on the first 15 plays for his A team in a district championship, then he cannot play for the "B" team in the district championship. |
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Post by buck02 on Aug 14, 2014 14:46:12 GMT
well it is but in name by calling it a cup the board need not apply championship rules meaning all players who playing in the county intermediate junior novice championship for their seniors can play in these cups as there is no rules not sure is this the norm in other districts or not! . I believe you are incorrect. If a player, who isn't on the first 15, plays in the county senior, intermediate, junior or novice championships, he then cannot play in the "junior" championships like the Molyneaux Cup or district "junior" championships. Similarly if a player not on the first 15 plays for his A team in a district championship, then he cannot play for the "B" team in the district championship. |
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Post by jackeen85 on Aug 15, 2014 13:02:25 GMT
Great News!!
The first 15 is named at the start of the year and everyone else is eligable to play Juniors for the reminder of the year which was always the norm in North Kerry and resulted in great games and champonships been played out and good numbers for competitions.
However now with a certain "junior club" looking for all the glory and trying the win handy compititions, they appealed this when they were defeated by teams playing players who werent on the first 15 but had played in the first round of the club championship (i.e county intermeidate/junior/noivce etc) when numbers were low.
Therefore depsite this loophole being ignored previously, it appears the North Kerry Board have had no choice but to stop these competitions as if they had to stop players who are not on the first 15 but played in the club championship for the above reasons, there would be no numbers!!
Moral of the story
"If you want to play football, take your beating and dont be appealing, after all it is junior football"
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Post by seamo on Aug 15, 2014 20:52:38 GMT
Great News!! The first 15 is named at the start of the year and everyone else is eligable to play Juniors for the reminder of the year which was always the norm in North Kerry and resulted in great games and champonships been played out and good numbers for competitions. However now with a certain "junior club" looking for all the glory and trying the win handy compititions, they appealed this when they were defeated by teams playing players who werent on the first 15 but had played in the first round of the club championship (i.e county intermeidate/junior/noivce etc) when numbers were low. Therefore depsite this loophole being ignored previously, it appears the North Kerry Board have had no choice but to stop these competitions as if they had to stop players who are not on the first 15 but played in the club championship for the above reasons, there would be no numbers!! Moral of the story "If you want to play football, take your beating and dont be appealing, after all it is junior football" That Junior team sound like the bad winner who took his shirt off in the race; whilst at the same time they also sound like the Spainish team who were bad losers!!! |
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Post by agoalisworth3pts on Aug 15, 2014 21:52:58 GMT
Great News!! The first 15 is named at the start of the year and everyone else is eligable to play Juniors for the reminder of the year which was always the norm in North Kerry and resulted in great games and champonships been played out and good numbers for competitions. However now with a certain "junior club" looking for all the glory and trying the win handy compititions, they appealed this when they were defeated by teams playing players who werent on the first 15 but had played in the first round of the club championship (i.e county intermeidate/junior/noivce etc) when numbers were low. Therefore depsite this loophole being ignored previously, it appears the North Kerry Board have had no choice but to stop these competitions as if they had to stop players who are not on the first 15 but played in the club championship for the above reasons, there would be no numbers!! Moral of the story "If you want to play football, take your beating and dont be appealing, after all it is junior football" name and shame this team so and after all its north kerry football who needs rules and regulations name your first 15 make sure 6 or 7 of these lads arent around for the year and let the rest play senior junior and in some cases c football!! |
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Post by agoalisworth3pts on Aug 15, 2014 21:55:56 GMT
This is absolutely the norm. Clubs name their 15 senior players and the rest are free to play Bs. I believe you are incorrect. If a player, who isn't on the first 15, plays in the county senior, intermediate, junior or novice championships, he then cannot play in the "junior" championships like the Molyneaux Cup or district "junior" championships. Similarly if a player not on the first 15 plays for his A team in a district championship, then he cannot play for the "B" team in the district championship. not in north kerry buck02 players who have played intermediate junior or novice in the county can still play in north kerry cups as they makes their own rules but can not play in molyneaux mcelligot or barrett cups as per croke park rules but north kerry have chosen to ignore these rules |
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Post by allrounder on Aug 15, 2014 22:45:39 GMT
Is this north Kerry intermediate competitive? Many teams in it?
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Post by agoalisworth3pts on Aug 15, 2014 22:52:54 GMT
Is this north Kerry intermediate competitive? Many teams in it? well its not intermediate no more its a cup now but yes is very competitive last few years alot of teams use it as preparation for the senior championship with most teams having six or seven that will start with their seniors in the championship |
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