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Post by southward on Aug 10, 2014 22:07:17 GMT
Donal óg stated on TSG that the Croke Park crossbar is up to six inches higher than others. I find this extraordinary. I know pitch sizes can vary significantly but surely the goal dimensions are standard ?
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Post by Jo90 on Aug 11, 2014 10:36:34 GMT
He's wrong to say that the crossbar is 6 inches higher. The crossbar is the same height for all GAA posts. However the ground in Croke Park is 6 inches lower alright.
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Post by seamo on Aug 11, 2014 11:06:51 GMT
He's wrong to say that the crossbar is 6 inches higher. The crossbar is the same height for all GAA posts. However the ground in Croke Park is 6 inches lower alright. hahaha  classic That, or Donal Og became 6 inches shorter in front of the bigger crowds of Croke Park!!! Maybe he's right, but I'd be shocked if he is. |
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Post by sidelined on Aug 11, 2014 13:37:03 GMT
in his book micheal o muirteaigh {ye know who I mean] said that a hurling goalkeeper told him that when thurles was relaid they never raised the crossbar to compensate. he checked this out for himself and found it correct. someone might confirm the details
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Post by The16thMan on Aug 11, 2014 16:15:38 GMT
I've been told of this by a former Kerry minor as well who has played on the new Croke Park pitch, if one person calls you a donkey take no notice if two people call you a donkey buy a saddle. So I think the fact that more than one person has mentioned this including the established GAA figurehead Donal Og Cusack I can't see it being false.
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Post by Jigz84 on Aug 11, 2014 16:20:27 GMT
He's wrong to say that the crossbar is 6 inches higher. The crossbar is the same height for all GAA posts. However the ground in Croke Park is 6 inches lower alright. True. There's half a foot difference between centre-field, both sidelines and both endlines. |
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Post by Ballyfireside on Aug 12, 2014 14:34:25 GMT
He's wrong to say that the crossbar is 6 inches higher. The crossbar is the same height for all GAA posts. However the ground in Croke Park is 6 inches lower alright. True. There's half a foot difference between centre-field, both sidelines and both endlines. There is a fall from the centre to the sidelines in Croker, to speed up the drying process, this may be a feature of all synthetic surfaces? I doubt if surface water is also directed towards the endlines/goalmouths though. Here is what The GAA site says about the goals: "...... goalposts 6.5m apart...... A cross bar is fixed to the goal posts at a height of 2.5m above the ground. Maybe the Croker surface is worn down from play although it couldn't possibly be as much as 6". Isn't the surface relaid regularly, after concerts, etc? Maybe The Croker goals doesn't meet the 2.5m regulation intentionally? I once noticed the uprights at a well known rugby pitch being about 3' out of sync at the top, it looked hilarious. I bet some GAA uprights are a bit off line, given their height at 7m+ it would be near imppossible for them to be spot on. |
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Post by sidelined on Aug 12, 2014 19:20:40 GMT
before the era of all weather pitches,in most club pitches the small square was nearly always a quagmire, with an arc going from post to post behind the goal line, in wet weather it filled with water. the goalkeepers tried to stay out of it for as long as they could. many a fracas ensued when a ball landed.
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Post by seamo on Aug 12, 2014 19:32:10 GMT
before the era of all weather pitches,in most club pitches the small square was nearly always a quagmire, with an arc going from post to post behind the goal line, in wet weather it filled with water. the goalkeepers tried to stay out of it for as long as they could. many a fracas ensued when a ball landed. haha and many a goal has been denied, getting stuck in the mud prior to reaching the line!!! |
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Post by Ballyfireside on Aug 12, 2014 22:14:56 GMT
And many the goal that was scored with the sniper realising that the poor goalie was likely to fall back into the lake and which made the cross bar a lot higher than the regulation! Sure 'twas often a bit of twine and so caused great confusion when the ball hit it; I recall it happening with the last kick of a two point Parish League game and so was deemed to be the equaliser: an Irish solution to and Irish problem and everybody was happy, in fact delighted to have another crack at their fellow parishioners.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 12, 2014 22:38:00 GMT
And many the goal that was scored with the sniper realising that the poor goalie was likely to fall back into the lake and which made the cross bar a lot higher than the regulation! Sure 'twas often a bit of twine and so caused great confusion when the ball hit it; I recall it happening with the last kick of a two point Parish League game and so was deemed to be the equaliser: an Irish solution to and Irish problem and everybody was happy, in fact delighted to have another crack at their fellow parishioners. A bit of twine? What? |
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Post by Ballyfireside on Aug 13, 2014 0:20:48 GMT
Ah jazus Tom, a bits feckin cord, rope, what do ye call it back west? The way ye are goin you'll be worse than the townies who don't know their end from their begining!
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Post by Ballyfireside on Aug 13, 2014 0:21:52 GMT
And many the goal that was scored with the sniper realising that the poor goalie was likely to fall back into the lake and which made the cross bar a lot higher than the regulation! Sure 'twas often a bit of twine and so caused great confusion when the ball hit it; I recall it happening with the last kick of a two point Parish League game and so was deemed to be the equaliser: an Irish solution to and Irish problem and everybody was happy, in fact delighted to have another crack at their fellow parishioners. A bit of twine? What? Ah jazus Tom, a bits feckin cord, rope, what do ye call it back west? The way ye are goin you'll be worse than the urban farmer who thinks milk comes out of a blasthed carton! |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 13, 2014 0:28:11 GMT
Ah jazus Tom, a bits feckin cord, rope, what do ye call it back west? The way ye are goin you'll be worse than the townies who don't know their end from their begining! I know what twine is thank you. Are you seriously telling me that twine was used as a cross bar?! |
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Post by Ballyfireside on Aug 13, 2014 12:55:03 GMT
Ah man your only a garsur Tomás, didn't you read what I said about the ball hitting the crossbar?
A cow dung was also a good 'cone' for a placed kick in that nobody would stand within the regulated 14 yards, while the ball could be a bulls scrotum or a pigs bladder. And that's hardly all!
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 13, 2014 13:00:34 GMT
Ah man your only a garsur Tomás, didn't you read what I said about the ball hitting the crossbar? A cow dung was also a good 'cone' for a placed kick in that nobody would stand within the regulated 14 yards, while the ball could be a bulls scrotum or a pigs bladder. And that's hardly all! Ah you're having me on now. |
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Post by watchdebreakswillye on Aug 28, 2014 1:29:37 GMT
Ah man your only a garsur Tomás, didn't you read what I said about the ball hitting the crossbar? A cow dung was also a good 'cone' for a placed kick in that nobody would stand within the regulated 14 yards, while the ball could be a bulls scrotum or a pigs bladder. And that's hardly all! Ah you're having me on now. Back in my day, many moons ago, we trained with two geansais or sometimes coats on either side which acted as uprights, so we had no crossbar to contend with. I remember too, when the uprights and crossbar were forestry trees, set into the ground. With time, the uprights got lonely for each other & made their way in towards each other, so that we'll say the distance between each upright at the bottom was 12 feet & the distance at the top was ten feet. One goalkeeper I knew thought he was a chimpanzee and when the action was up at the other end he'd warm himself by jumping up and swinging off the crossbar. All that was missing was him roaring like Johnny Weismuller (Tarzan). He jumped up too many times one day and the crossbar broke and came tumbling down. There was no such thing as 'abandonment' in those days and a length of rope (hemp, twine, call it what you will) was procured and strung across as a crossbar. I remember the 'hole' in front of goal too. That hole definitely rose the crossbar height. During the summer, if there was a melee in the goalmouth, nobody could see anything with the clouds of dust, and 'twas a good time for the full forward to get a poke into the full back. During the winter, the hole filled up with water, and if the goalkeeper was low-sized, a lifebuoy would have to be tied onto the tumber upright in case he fell in (only coddin' on that one). During the spring, when the ground was drying up, the hole was a mud bath & many's the ball heading for goal got stuck dead in this bath. Only the bravest ventured in after it because they came out unrecognisable. They went off then and ruined everything by putting in sand and drains and fancy goalposts with fancy crossbars. They took all the romance out of it. |
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