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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 22:11:11 GMT
It's a joke no way should he be playing and it's true if he was from Kerry he would not be allowed play . Look everyone does not want Kerry to win All Irelands it's fairly Obvious and when Kerry play any County not alone are they playing that County but they are playing the rest of the Country too thats the way it is so i really hope we go on now and win the All Ireland . I would love to shove it up everyones you know what .
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Post by gamechanger10 on Aug 28, 2014 22:14:17 GMT
What a joke... But this will turn into a stick for us just like the original sening off did for them. They know in their hearts and souls that he shouldn't have Been cleared to play, while I think justice has been served I think that law, procedure and fair play to Kerry has been denied and shelved. Maybe they want new headlines in HQ that would distract from the obvious own goal with the cheerleaders crew,,, good luck to Lee and his team mates because by Christ they will need it now.. Ciarrai Abu
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Post by diego on Aug 28, 2014 22:16:23 GMT
GAA hierarchy has never forgiven us because of what we did in ' 02 freeing Darragh to play against Cork! In fairness that WAS a bit "Irish". As Liam Higgins said in his commentary that evening in Gallarus as I recall it - "You can't send off the captain of the Kerry team". Don't think that is actually in the rule book. More of a rule of thumb I think.
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Post by mountainbob on Aug 28, 2014 22:18:58 GMT
Keegan cleared on a technicality, refs report had it as "kicking with minimal force” .Mayo proved with video evidence that the kick had not connected so should have been reported for “attempting to kick with minimal force” which actually carries the same penalty, i.e red card but as ref's report was incorrect he is cleared to play.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 28, 2014 22:22:47 GMT
Keegan cleared on a technicality, refs report had it as "kicking with minimal force” .Mayo proved with video evidence that the kick had not connected so should have been reported for “attempting to kick with minimal force” which actually carries the same penalty, i.e red card but as ref's report was incorrect he is cleared to play. Doesn't matter a *e. Bring 'em on.
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Post by mossie on Aug 28, 2014 22:23:40 GMT
Look I am half glad that the red card was rescinded. It was never a red card in the first place. No player from any county should miss an important game for such a trivial offence which had no malice. The CCCC rescinded one in similar fashion for Dublin with Connolly a few years back so I guess Mayo had that card to play when arguing their case. From a Kerry point of view it puts Keegan on the pitch which is bad news but look if we are to win the all Ireland, bearing mayo with lee keegan should be achievable. Having him playing also takes away a sense of grievance from Mayo which might be worth summit to us.
I am also well sick of this moan fest about the venue. Its a 45k plus stadium. I bet everyone that wants a ticket will get one so capacity is not an issue. The game is on in a big stadium in a major city. The GAA is bigger than Croke Park and Dublin city. In fact it is great that the final stages of the all Ireland series comes outside Dublin for a change. On a purely economic front let Limerick have a slice of the cake. It hasn't had a big game all summer. I hope this semi final goes well and sets a trend for a few QFs to be played outside Croke Park in years to come
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Post by seamo on Aug 28, 2014 22:26:03 GMT
It's a joke no way should he be playing and it's true if he was from Kerry he would not be allowed play . Look everyone does not want Kerry to win All Irelands it's fairly Obvious and when Kerry play any County not alone are they playing that County but they are playing the rest of the Country too thats the way it is so i really hope we go on now and win the All Ireland . I would love to shove it up everyones you know what . I would have generally dismissed this, because fans of all teams in any sport always feel the rest are out to get them, but there's a long list of dubious decisions towards Kerry now, it seems never ending. Really does take the p!ss.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 22:25:59 GMT
Keegan cleared on a technicality, refs report had it as "kicking with minimal force” .Mayo proved with video evidence that the kick had not connected so should have been reported for “attempting to kick with minimal force” which actually carries the same penalty, i.e red card but as ref's report was incorrect he is cleared to play. How have you gotten this information so soon? lee was fouled by 2 kerry players, buckley threw a punch at keegan, he didn't connect properly, so he should have retrospectively being given a red on foot of video evidence. It seems like ye want every advantage over this fine mayo team. I hope we have 15 finish the game on saturday and if we do we will have booked our place in croker in september. Maigh eo abu....
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Post by mossie on Aug 28, 2014 22:35:19 GMT
Keegan cleared on a technicality, refs report had it as "kicking with minimal force” .Mayo proved with video evidence that the kick had not connected so should have been reported for “attempting to kick with minimal force” which actually carries the same penalty, i.e red card but as ref's report was incorrect he is cleared to play. How have you gotten this information so soon? lee was fouled by 2 kerry players, buckley threw a punch at keegan, he didn't connect properly, so he should have retrospectively being given a red on foot of video evidence. It seems like ye want every advantage over this fine mayo team. I hope we have 15 finish the game on saturday and if we do we will have booked our place in croker in september. Maigh eo abu.... every advantage? what advantages you referring?
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Post by peanuts on Aug 28, 2014 22:37:53 GMT
Keegan cleared on a technicality, refs report had it as "kicking with minimal force” .Mayo proved with video evidence that the kick had not connected so should have been reported for “attempting to kick with minimal force” which actually carries the same penalty, i.e red card but as ref's report was incorrect he is cleared to play. How have you gotten this information so soon? lee was fouled by 2 kerry players, buckley threw a punch at keegan, he didn't connect properly, so he should have retrospectively being given a red on foot of video evidence. It seems like ye want every advantage over this fine mayo team. I hope we have 15 finish the game on saturday and if we do we will have booked our place in croker in september. Maigh eo abu.... It's on the irish times website.
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Post by hurricane on Aug 28, 2014 22:38:12 GMT
Delighted Keegan is back. I feel it's just. Everyone can look forward to another cracker on Saturday now. However even if you are to prevail mayo4sam the chances are fairly likely ye will poop the bed on the third Sunday of September AGAIN!
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Post by seamo on Aug 28, 2014 22:40:09 GMT
Keegan cleared on a technicality, refs report had it as "kicking with minimal force” .Mayo proved with video evidence that the kick had not connected so should have been reported for “attempting to kick with minimal force” which actually carries the same penalty, i.e red card but as ref's report was incorrect he is cleared to play. How have you gotten this information so soon? lee was fouled by 2 kerry players, buckley threw a punch at keegan, he didn't connect properly, so he should have retrospectively being given a red on foot of video evidence. It seems like ye want every advantage over this fine mayo team. I hope we have 15 finish the game on saturday and if we do we will have booked our place in croker in september. Maigh eo abu.... Stop being so bloody biased! Buckley had a punch at the ball, you know the round, white leather thing that was in Keegan's hands!!! At most what Buckley did was warrant the free being brought forward!! Go away and learn the game would ya
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Post by seamo on Aug 28, 2014 22:41:22 GMT
How have you gotten this information so soon? lee was fouled by 2 kerry players, buckley threw a punch at keegan, he didn't connect properly, so he should have retrospectively being given a red on foot of video evidence. It seems like ye want every advantage over this fine mayo team. I hope we have 15 finish the game on saturday and if we do we will have booked our place in croker in september. Maigh eo abu.... every advantage? what advantages you referring? More knowledgeable supporters on the rules of the game!
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 28, 2014 22:50:49 GMT
Keegan cleared on a technicality, refs report had it as "kicking with minimal force” .Mayo proved with video evidence that the kick had not connected so should have been reported for “attempting to kick with minimal force” which actually carries the same penalty, i.e red card but as ref's report was incorrect he is cleared to play. How have you gotten this information so soon? lee was fouled by 2 kerry players, buckley threw a punch at keegan, he didn't connect properly, so he should have retrospectively being given a red on foot of video evidence. It seems like ye want every advantage over this fine mayo team. I hope we have 15 finish the game on saturday and if we do we will have booked our place in croker in september. Maigh eo abu.... Buckley did not throw a punch at Keegan. He jostled him for sure but nothing to warrant a red and you are the first I have seen suggest this.
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Post by fitz on Aug 28, 2014 22:54:30 GMT
The GAA rule book was inspired by Orwell's Animal Farm. In the guise of CHC, we can see the rulebook is applied equally, but for some counties and some issues, there are decisions that are more important than those that be derived by the rulebook. As much as soccer rules are farcical at times, they do abide by a rule I believe that if a referee deals with an issue on the pitch, then the matter is closed, even if he makes a bad call, he is not undermined afterwards.
The Gaa rulebook is made of fluffy stuff
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 28, 2014 22:55:41 GMT
The conspiracy theorists on here will claim that this is recompense for the match being on in Limerick...
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Post by gamechanger10 on Aug 28, 2014 23:02:02 GMT
Just saying that I am genuinely happy for Keegan, his family and his club. But in fairness while justice on Sunday would have been a yellow card in the circumstances, when the red card was issued it was beyond doubt that he kicked or attempted to kick and the footage is absolutely incriminating and irefutable as per the regulations. Did the Mayo delegation catch the judges with KY jelly, sex toys and the satnav aimed for the limerick parade on Saturday,,,, only conclusion I can come to,, well done boys.. OJ is available and reasonably fit if ye want him to tackle Donaghy.. Break out the white Bronko and burst past all the window flags in Claregalway,, if Keegan can play he must be in with a shout… Jesas don’t take the head off anyone on the way.. And make sure the gloves fit right in the middle eight,,, Remember boys and girls don’t lick the honey from a bears whiskers,,, you are likely to get bitten,,,, Kerry by more than ye realise (I hope!!) Ciarrai Abu
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Post by watchdebreakswillye on Aug 28, 2014 23:03:46 GMT
Keegan cleared on a technicality, refs report had it as "kicking with minimal force” .Mayo proved with video evidence that the kick had not connected so should have been reported for “attempting to kick with minimal force” which actually carries the same penalty, i.e red card but as ref's report was incorrect he is cleared to play. How have you gotten this information so soon? lee was fouled by 2 kerry players, buckley threw a punch at keegan, he didn't connect properly, so he should have retrospectively being given a red on foot of video evidence. It seems like ye want every advantage over this fine mayo team. I hope we have 15 finish the game on saturday and if we do we will have booked our place in croker in september. Maigh eo abu.... Hello mayo4sam. How're they all up the west? A few quotes came to mind on reading your post & I'd like to share them with you & they are Nothing is certain but death and taxes – Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790) If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then quit. There's no point in being a damn fool about it. W.C. Fields (1880-1946) May the best team win on Saturday evening. We probably differ on who that will be.
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Post by dart on Aug 28, 2014 23:07:04 GMT
Kerry should play in Green and Gold Saturday and to hell with the rules!
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Post by MeathExile on Aug 28, 2014 23:08:41 GMT
Anybody know who is on this CHC committee?? Had heard of CCC but not this crowd....following B2Ks train of thought re anti Ciarrai in these decisions over the years, any suggestions for what CHC and CCC could stand for? A little competition for all on here...
CHC - Cute Hoors v Ciarrai?? CCC - Cad Chriocnaoich Ciarrai?? (excuse my lack of correct tense but I'm a bit rusty...supposed to mean 'What will finish off Kerry'?)
Controller has final decision on best suggestion!
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Post by wayupnorth on Aug 28, 2014 23:31:01 GMT
Yerra!
We'll play whoever we have to wherever we have to.
Do they like us? Is cuma Linn!
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Post by Jo90 on Aug 28, 2014 23:31:34 GMT
Keegan cleared on a technicality, refs report had it as "kicking with minimal force” .Mayo proved with video evidence that the kick had not connected so should have been reported for “attempting to kick with minimal force” which actually carries the same penalty, i.e red card but as ref's report was incorrect he is cleared to play. How have you gotten this information so soon? lee was fouled by 2 kerry players, buckley threw a punch at keegan, he didn't connect properly, so he should have retrospectively being given a red on foot of video evidence. It seems like ye want every advantage over this fine mayo team. I hope we have 15 finish the game on saturday and if we do we will have booked our place in croker in september. Maigh eo abu.... Actually all they could retrospectively do is give Buckley a noting going by the rules: Noting Infractions 1. To hold an opponent with the hand(s). 2. To use the fist on or around the body of an opponent for the purpose of dispossessing him of the ball. Between this and thinking the penalty should have been a black card, it seems nobody in Mayo knows the rules of gaelic football.
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 29, 2014 7:45:06 GMT
Duffy admits gamble backfired
Friday, August 29, 2014 Páraic Duffy: This is 'once off'.Páraic Duffy: This is 'once off'. By Eoghan Cormican GAA Árd Stiúrthóir Páraic Duffy admits the decision to schedule an American football game at Croke Park during the height of Championship season, removing the availability of HQ for the All-Ireland football semi-final replay, backfired.
Duffy says top-brass took a risk in fixing the American football encounter for mid-August, but last night stood over the decision, insisting “Croke Park has to fund the development of the GAA”.
The Árd Stiúrthóir rejected the allegation financial gain was prioritised over the second most important fixture in the football calendar, rubbishing accusations that “corporate Croke Park” dictated Kerry and Mayo be vanquished to the Gaelic Grounds.
“The decision to fix the American football game for this Saturday has backfired, but I felt it was a reasonable risk to take. It worked against us this time. I wish it hadn’t happened, but it did and that is life,” said Duffy.
“The point I would make in relation to this weekend is this American football game was arranged 18 months ago. We were aware at the time that you could end up in this situation, the law of averages indicated that it was unlikely because in the last 28 years, and of the 56 All-Ireland football semi-finals played, only four have ended in a draw. We felt it was a reasonable risk to take. We also realised if it was necessary to play an All-Ireland semi-final outside Croke Park, we had the venues available, like Limerick.
“I understand the furore that has played out this week. I think going to Limerick is not the worst thing in the world. It is a convenient venue for Kerry. It is a shorter distance to Limerick from Castlebar than it is to Croke Park. I accept there is inconvenience involved but it was a reasonable risk to take. Unfortunately it hasn’t worked out as you would have hoped.
“People can talk about corporate GAA or financial greed, but the reality is Croke Park has to fund the development of the GAA and we have to be prepared to take such decisions. We are about to undertake two huge developments with regard to the stadia in Cork and Belfast which will mean a huge undertaking of financial resources. We have to raise funds for those and Croke Park plays an important role in that. So it is important that we seek events like the American football game. You have to be prepared to use Croke Park to generate revenue for the GAA even when things don’t work out, like what has happened here.
“Playing the replay Saturday week in Croke Park was never a runner. If Donegal and Dublin draw on Sunday, that replay has to go to Croke Park because it would be an 82,000 sell-out. If you let Mayo and Kerry go to Croke Park the following week, and Dublin and Donegal draw on Sunday, what do you do then? If you put one of the games back a week, it would mean you have to put back the All-Ireland final because you can’t organise an All-Ireland final in a week. In the circumstances, I think this was the best decision. I accept the circumstances are not ideal, but I believe the situation has been managed as best as possible.”
Duffy revealed the Gaelic Grounds fixture is a “once off” and no further All-Ireland semi-final or final replays will be played outside of Croke Park.
“I think it has to be seen as a once off. That is not to say circumstances won’t arise in the future which will dictate big games to be moved outside Croke Park. You will have new stadia in Cork and Belfast so you could have circumstances where big games are played outside Croke Park. I would have to say, however, the policy of the association which is to play All-Ireland semi-finals and finals at Croke Park hasn’t changed.”
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 29, 2014 8:04:35 GMT
I think that is a fair and accurate summary of the situation. Lesson learned hopefully.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 8:13:14 GMT
The pressure is all on Kerry for this, ye have shown your hand, Mayo were a man down for the entire second half, ye still couldnt beat us and we only took the shackles off for the second half. Mayo will go for ye at the start and blow ye away. I cant see Declan O Sullivan lasting the whole game who ye need to Maigh Eo Abu. Delighted Keegan is back. I feel it's just. Everyone can look forward to another cracker on Saturday now. However even if you are to prevail mayo4sam the chances are fairly likely ye will poop the bed on the third Sunday of September AGAIN!
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 29, 2014 8:18:06 GMT
The pressure is all on Kerry for this, ye have shown your hand, Mayo were a man down for the entire second half, ye still couldnt beat us and we only took the shackles off for the second half. Mayo will go for ye at the start and blow ye away. I cant see Declan O Sullivan lasting the whole game who ye need to Maigh Eo Abu. Delighted Keegan is back. I feel it's just. Everyone can look forward to another cracker on Saturday now. However even if you are to prevail mayo4sam the chances are fairly likely ye will poop the bed on the third Sunday of September AGAIN! Quite apart from everything else you say... Declan O'Sullivan isn't starting.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 8:31:10 GMT
ya might wanna tell james o donahue that he can only take 4 consecutive steps before he has to solo or bounce it, not like the 9 or 10 he normally takes 12. OVERCARRY To take more than four steps while holding the ball in the hand(s). How have you gotten this information so soon? lee was fouled by 2 kerry players, buckley threw a punch at keegan, he didn't connect properly, so he should have retrospectively being given a red on foot of video evidence. It seems like ye want every advantage over this fine mayo team. I hope we have 15 finish the game on saturday and if we do we will have booked our place in croker in september. Maigh eo abu.... Actually all they could retrospectively do is give Buckley a noting going by the rules: Noting Infractions 1. To hold an opponent with the hand(s). 2. To use the fist on or around the body of an opponent for the purpose of dispossessing him of the ball. Between this and thinking the penalty should have been a black card, it seems nobody in Mayo knows the rules of gaelic football.
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Post by dart on Aug 29, 2014 8:45:40 GMT
What are you doing posting messages here man! Shouldn't you be on the way to Limerick by now since it's such a long trip for all of ye!!!!
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Post by playitfair on Aug 29, 2014 8:55:32 GMT
He's probably there already.
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Post by Jo90 on Aug 29, 2014 8:57:43 GMT
Kerry continually get shafted by the GAA. From my memory players have a 100% record of getting off incidents if their next game is against Kerry. It makes me wonder when did a player last have to serve a suspension against Kerry?
Players due to be suspended v Kerry but got red cards suspended: Anthony Lynch 2006 Donnacha O'Connor 2008 Diarmuid Connolly 2011
Where there was enough video evidence to warrant a suspension in their next game which was v Kerry: John Miskella punch on Brian McGuigan, Bannon decides a yellow was sufficient Noel O'Leary punch on Graham Geraghty, Crowe decides a yellow was sufficient
where Kerry players got suspensions based on video evidence which were at worst were equal to the above incidents, but McStay and Tohill demanded suspensions: Tomás Ó Sé v Limerick Paul Galvin v Cork
Personally of the 7 incidents above I believe Donnacha O'Connor's red card was the only one not worthy of a suspension and even still it could be argued as the correct decision under the "minimal contact" rule.
That doesn't even bring in the whole Galvingate of '08 affair.
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