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Post by Chinatown on Aug 3, 2014 21:22:25 GMT
...some comment. Pls discuss
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 21:28:27 GMT
No discussion required. Time to close the thread.
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Post by dingle123 on Aug 3, 2014 21:32:31 GMT
What are his two tricks..over the bar and back of the net...what more you want haha
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Post by Chinatown on Aug 3, 2014 21:37:51 GMT
Yeah might be for closing alright but one last word
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Post by sullyschoice on Aug 3, 2014 21:37:57 GMT
Gob*e
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Post by mossie on Aug 3, 2014 22:49:01 GMT
I wouldn't be getting too hot around the collar about this lads. I think all McHugh meant was that he feels that James has a better range of skills as Gooch and if Gooch was playing today he would have done well to match the contribution of James. More or less saying that we have a new Gooch! Some of the language he used was unfortunate but I doubt he meant any offence or slight to Gooch. It was as if he went a bit too far in heaping praise on James.
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Post by fitz on Aug 3, 2014 22:57:25 GMT
Not accurate Mossie, he called Colm a 2 trick pony, a sledge not a slight. He's a wa*er, unreservedly.
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Post by himself on Aug 4, 2014 7:11:38 GMT
Just to play devil's advocate, I listened to the Donegal/Roscommon minor game on Highland FM, and McHugh was genuinely excellent.
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Post by veteran on Aug 4, 2014 8:53:08 GMT
Why do people get so agitated over the inane comments of people like McHugh, Brolly and Hayes? Reacting is merely giving them the attention they crave. Ignore and remember also we have a noble tradition down here of never speaking ill of the afflicted.
Hope to comment on the match later on.
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Post by mandad on Aug 4, 2014 9:15:27 GMT
I take your point Veteran but a few select few analysts have the ability to make me shout at the radio or T.V. The Sunday Game too often causes me to interrupt my tea making to shout at the TV, much to the dog’s surprise. People outside Kerry do not always appreciate that to us, football is more than sport, it is a way of life, art, expression, entertainment, philosophy and the ultimate ambition a parent can have for their offspring. We understand too, that just because a player has an educated right or left foot does not mean the rest of the body follows suit, let alone the brain. When, therefore a player like The Gooch comes along who enriches the game beyond what one has any right to expect, we admire, we appreciate, and we are obliged sometimes to defend their genius. There has never been a more profound calumny perpetrated against any player than that expounded by James McHugh against Colm Cooper in last night’s Sunday Game where he described Colm as “a two trick pony”. No other player visible to my generation has concentrated within himself so much of the sport's poignancy, has so assiduously refined his natural skills, has so constantly brought to the game that intensity of competence like Colm Cooper - far beyond anything that can be measured on a scoreboard. 'The Gooch' has no equal. He can transform a side and there are very few players who have that ability. We will not see his likes again within the confines of a country or the space of a century. Can't we all just be grateful to have seen a unique footballer demonstrating phenomenal skills consistently for so many years? If Mr. McHugh had an iota of grace about him, he would admit that he is wrong and apologise forthwith. Consider this ventilation, emptied.
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 4, 2014 10:31:24 GMT
Are we entitled to question if a certain Donegal player is a one season pony?
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Post by jaap on Aug 4, 2014 11:39:45 GMT
A better presenter than Des could have made McHugh look like a proper mug by asking him to expand on his point, and tell us what Gooch's two tricks are. He would have buried himself live on national telly. What really annoys me though about his comments is the timing. Colm is out with a serious injury at the moment, and McHugh thinks its a good time to slate him. Shows a real lack of class.
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Post by stevieq on Aug 4, 2014 11:49:19 GMT
To be fair to the man he looked as if he knew he slipped up when he said it. Don't think he meant it the way it sounded unless he is a total dumb a**.
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 4, 2014 12:22:52 GMT
Why do hurling analyst come across so well and most football ones so moronic. Exceptions are Tomas, Whelo, Earley. We had Brolly telling ORourke that his creditors wouldn't like the fact that ORourke spent the week at the Galway races. Spillane thinks he is a comedian but we aren't looking to be entertained by a comedian. We had Mugsy on two weeks ago and he is an embarrassment. NcHugh is a bitter little man who wasn't big enough to praise JOD without denigrating a player who is recuperating from a cruel injury. How base and classless.
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Post by fitz on Aug 4, 2014 12:25:35 GMT
"A two trick pony" is far from a slip of the tongue. It's a flabbergasting remark. I agree Des should have put the squeeze on him and although both other guys were aghast, they let him off lightly. Yeah, we're oversensitive but this is the Gooch, and whilst acknowledging I have my green and gold glasses on I fully agree with Mandad
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 4, 2014 13:22:13 GMT
It's at the level of bringing a lad to your local and him saying the pint isn't good.
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Post by seamo on Aug 4, 2014 14:00:34 GMT
I don't really take it as slight against the Gooch, afterall JOD is also one of our own.
What he really highlights though is McHuge utter lack of knowledge yet again on the game. And it's becoming quite depressing now that RTE struggle so badly to find half a dozen guys who can speak with a bit of knowledge on the game.
Facts are JOD clearly isn't better than the Gooch. JOD is an absolute star, best player in the country this year throughout league and championship and if there was a transfer market this guy would command top dollar.
But if McHuge had any kind of knowledge of the game, he wouldn't get caught up in the moment and realise a few important factors. JOD is one bad injury away from becoming just another intercounty player, because JOD relies so much on his speed and that's a vulnerable attribute to have. Gooch on the other hand, well he's deceptively quick, but the vision, the balance, the passing range etc, he'll have all that after a bad injury.
Really I never liked McHuge, arrogant little etc, but I didn't expect this kind of silliness. Didn't even watch what Brolly and the likes were saying during the day yesterday, and now it looks like I'll have to avoid the boys on the night shift too!!!
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Post by Ballyfireside on Aug 4, 2014 17:48:22 GMT
I live in Donegal and would have an insight to his form. What he was trying to do was to build us up, thinking we'd be flattered by the 'expert praise of a one medal wonder man'. He can come out with some pure nonsense and the root issue is that he is disingenuous in a juvenile way in thinking that people 'believe' what pundits say.
It is more likely that he thinks that Kerry is the only barrier between Donegal and Sam and in which case he believes his own nonsense. I think it was that he couldn't hide his excitement of thinking Kerry didn't improve as much again yesterday as they did v Cork. As a pundit Martin needs to be less parochial and more 'independent' and I don't think he can make that progression at this stage. On BBC Martin came out with pathetic stuff on occasion and would have been a laughing stock if it was nationally viewed on RTE.
Anthony Molloy (Donegal '92 captain) is a decent analyst, Brendan Deveany is good enough too and Adrian Sweeney often provided the basis of an insightful print article.
And by the way, Martin fancies himself as a manager one day, save a thought for the great GAA folk of Donegal and what they'd have to contend with McHigh notions, wouldn't lace Jim McG's boots!
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Post by Ballyfireside on Aug 4, 2014 18:04:32 GMT
And the best of all was Brolly opening up O'Rourke and who is in NAMA by asking him on screen if his creditors knew he was gambling at Galway races!
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Post by givehimaball on Aug 4, 2014 18:15:12 GMT
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt"
Gooch's 2 tricks - back of the net and between the posts.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 4, 2014 20:44:25 GMT
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt" Gooch's 2 tricks - back of the net and between the posts. I was going to say something similar but then he makes scores. Then I was gonna say makes and takes scores too but his tackle vs Cork last year was class. The best I heard was that his two tricks are winning All Stars and All Ireland's.
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Post by seamo on Aug 4, 2014 21:35:29 GMT
I think the following sums up the quality of RTE's GAA analysis: McStay's poor researchEspecially love the tweet from "Declan Bogue".
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Post by wayupnorth on Aug 4, 2014 22:46:40 GMT
Mostly I'm of the "don't feed the troll school" but there are some lines that are meant to be crossed and Mr McHugh has drawn one. It is not for nothing (or even for a couple of tricks) that Colm Cooper is revered in his native county and neither needs to defend himself nor depend on the likes of me to do so. James O'Donoghue is the latest in a long line of Kerry greats but only time will tell where he fits in. No one knows this better than James himself.
A charitable view of the utterance was that Mr McHugh simply engaged his mouth before putting his brain in gear. Or was there a more sinister motive? Some years ago another' Northern "analyst" made some very similar remarks and revelled in both them and the reaction they provoked.
So was McHugh trying on a Brolly-lite?
Is Martin a fool or a knave?
Who knows? But he's probably a foolish knave.
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Post by Ard Mhacha on Aug 4, 2014 23:49:09 GMT
Is there a video of his comment?
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Post by Ballyfireside on Aug 4, 2014 23:50:05 GMT
I have criticised Martin, but look, we're all entitled to err, I'm not so sure he meant it, he is a good GAA man, he has one more Celtic Cross than me
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Post by Ballyfireside on Aug 4, 2014 23:58:38 GMT
I think the following sums up the quality of RTE's GAA analysis: McStay's poor researchEspecially love the tweet from "Declan Bogue". He may, a lot of us were confused about the Geaneys ... Spillanes, O'Keeffes... you will meet worse judges that McStay, he is a kinda straight talker, and hey, St Brigids, as a garsun I spotted him developing all these years, sorry Kevin!
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Post by Ballyfireside on Aug 4, 2014 23:59:18 GMT
Is there a video of his comment? No need, 'twas as bad as reported!
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Post by sidelined on Aug 5, 2014 9:48:05 GMT
mchughs comments has had the desired effect, he is the talk of all gaa people since he made them. now what paper is his column in ?. after all making daft comments has worked for brolly and hayes. what was paul galvins comment "you can throw a blanket over them all and only end up with a few medals", very apt.
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Post by inforthebreaks on Aug 5, 2014 12:09:47 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 14:03:33 GMT
What an Idiot !!! It shows you how stupid he is or what he looks at when he is watching Football . He got some attention alright . Now everyone knows he's a Tool .
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