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Post by rovingfullforward on Sept 29, 2014 12:20:23 GMT
As for the intermediate final,a good win by Kenmare are they good enough for Senior? I would think they would be competitive if they put in the effort and time,they would give Abbeydorney,Ballyheigue and Crotta a game of it but they wouldnt be strong enough for the rest of the teams. Of course the changing of the rules in this years Intermediate Championship helped the South Kerry clubs alot. Changing the rules??? You mean scrapping the farce whereby some North Kerry clubs play their Senior Panel players in the Intermediate championship before the Senior Championship has been started, thereby allowing a player to play both Senior & Intermediate in the same season. Rules eh?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2014 12:33:08 GMT
The Ballyduff lads that were involved in that incident with the ref in 03 got 96 weeks suspension the club got fined as well,the vice chairman of the Kilmoyley club should get double that and banned from ever again holding a position in his club,should the club be punished?
As Mike O Halloran said there is too many people inside the pitch,most of them are doing noting,Kilmoyley had four or five lads yesterday in front of the stand,like how many fellas do you need to give out water,Lixnaw had a good few in there as well,
I think its time to move the sub benches over into the stand like they have in other grounds in the country,corner off two sections of seating either side of the tunnel and have the subs in there,only allow the managers and selectors on to the sideline then,each team should have 2 hurley carriers and 4 water boys,2 each side of the field,it would make the linesman job easier and the also the refs like how many times have we seen a ref going over the dugout telling the subs and the the club officals to go into the dug out.
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Post by buck02 on Sept 29, 2014 12:42:42 GMT
The Ballyduff lads that were involved in that incident with the ref in 03 got 96 weeks suspension the club got fined as well,the vice chairman of the Kilmoyley club should get double that and banned from ever again holding a position in his club,should the club be punished? As Mike O Halloran said there is too many people inside the pitch,most of them are doing noting,Kilmoyley had four or five lads yesterday in front of the stand,like how many fellas do you need to give out water,Lixnaw had a good few in there as well, I think its time to move the sub benches over into the stand like they have in other grounds in the country,corner off two sections of seating either side of the tunnel and have the subs in there,only allow the managers and selectors on to the sideline then,each team should have 2 hurley carriers and 4 water boys,2 each side of the field,it would make the linesman job easier and the also the refs like how many times have we seen a ref going over the dugout telling the subs and the the club officals to go into the dug out. Maybe they should just give the linesmen hurls and they can just whoosh back the subs and mentors into the dugouts
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Post by hurlingman on Sept 29, 2014 12:46:13 GMT
As for the intermediate final,a good win by Kenmare are they good enough for Senior? I would think they would be competitive if they put in the effort and time,they would give Abbeydorney,Ballyheigue and Crotta a game of it but they wouldnt be strong enough for the rest of the teams. Of course the changing of the rules in this years Intermediate Championship helped the South Kerry clubs alot. Changing the rules??? You mean scrapping the farce whereby some North Kerry clubs play their Senior Panel players in the Intermediate championship before the Senior Championship has been started, thereby allowing a player to play both Senior & Intermediate in the same season. Rules eh? You're back moaning again i see. Im surprised you haven't found some way to blame St Pats for Crokes getting hammered yesterday. Its always someone elses fault when Crokes lose with you
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Post by hurlingman on Sept 29, 2014 12:53:13 GMT
The Ballyduff lads that were involved in that incident with the ref in 03 got 96 weeks suspension the club got fined as well,the vice chairman of the Kilmoyley club should get double that and banned from ever again holding a position in his club,should the club be punished? As Mike O Halloran said there is too many people inside the pitch,most of them are doing noting,Kilmoyley had four or five lads yesterday in front of the stand,like how many fellas do you need to give out water,Lixnaw had a good few in there as well, I think its time to move the sub benches over into the stand like they have in other grounds in the country,corner off two sections of seating either side of the tunnel and have the subs in there,only allow the managers and selectors on to the sideline then,each team should have 2 hurley carriers and 4 water boys,2 each side of the field,it would make the linesman job easier and the also the refs like how many times have we seen a ref going over the dugout telling the subs and the the club officals to go into the dug out. Hard to do that in ASP. But i agree teams should be limited to the number of people they have on the sideline. Outside of subs a team should have their managers/trainer 2 selectors, 4 water/hurley carriers and a physio if they have one. No reason to have anymore then that. No need for all theses hangers out you see when teams make finals, a lot of who are looking t ocause trouble. One football club in Kerry have been noted for it for a long time
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Sept 29, 2014 16:24:18 GMT
In a bar in Grange in Cork and the Langers are getting a great laugh out of this.
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Post by southward on Sept 29, 2014 16:55:32 GMT
In a bar in Grange in Cork and the Langers are getting a great laugh out of this. Yeah, it's interesting to see some of the comments online; plenty of people thinking it's a great laugh, jokes about Kerry hurling etc. The same people probably apoplectic about BJK kicking the ball away. But sure this is something happening to a Kerry player, Paul at that, so it's hilarious altogether.
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Post by stevieq on Sept 29, 2014 18:30:10 GMT
veteran - "a caveman emerged from the peloton"
Brilliant stuff.
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Post by sullyschoice on Sept 29, 2014 20:43:30 GMT
I enjoyed that quote too
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Post by rovingfullforward on Sept 29, 2014 21:15:31 GMT
Changing the rules??? You mean scrapping the farce whereby some North Kerry clubs play their Senior Panel players in the Intermediate championship before the Senior Championship has been started, thereby allowing a player to play both Senior & Intermediate in the same season. Rules eh? You're back moaning again i see. Im surprised you haven't found some way to blame St Pats for Crokes getting hammered yesterday. Its always someone elses fault when Crokes lose with you Jesus you're some gombeen. Where above did I complain about the Crokes losing? where exactly? Please point it out? Crokes were beaten by a far superior Kenmare team and well done to them. If you bothered your arse to read and understand the posts involved you would realise that the comment was on Kerrydude complaining about the rule change whereby the senior championship is on before or same time as Intermediate championship. A rule, my good man, which also impacted positively on Kenmare. But don't let facts get in the way of your little bitter tirade my wee man. Obviously my St Pats comment from about 3 years ago, yes 3 years ago, sits too close to the bone for you?
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Post by hurlingman on Sept 29, 2014 21:51:17 GMT
You're back moaning again i see. Im surprised you haven't found some way to blame St Pats for Crokes getting hammered yesterday. Its always someone elses fault when Crokes lose with you Jesus you're some gombeen. Where above did I complain about the Crokes losing? where exactly? Please point it out? Crokes were beaten by a far superior Kenmare team and well done to them. If you bothered your arse to read and understand the posts involved you would realise that the comment was on Kerrydude complaining about the rule change whereby the senior championship is on before or same time as Intermediate championship. A rule, my good man, which also impacted positively on Kenmare. But don't let facts get in the way of your little bitter tirade my wee man. Obviously my St Pats comment from about 3 years ago, yes 3 years ago, sits too close to the bone for you? You didnt thats why i said i was surprised by it, understand? Seeing as you felt St Pats were the worst thing in the world at the time. Then again St Pats arent the only team you have a grip with now are they? Its interesting to see you back again. Where did you disappear to when Crokes were knocked out of the football? A great man to comment when they were winning, not so much when they lose....
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Post by mossie on Sept 29, 2014 22:19:53 GMT
You're back moaning again i see. Im surprised you haven't found some way to blame St Pats for Crokes getting hammered yesterday. Its always someone elses fault when Crokes lose with you Jesus you're some gombeen. Where above did I complain about the Crokes losing? where exactly? Please point it out? Crokes were beaten by a far superior Kenmare team and well done to them. If you bothered your arse to read and understand the posts involved you would realise that the comment was on Kerrydude complaining about the rule change whereby the senior championship is on before or same time as Intermediate championship. A rule, my good man, which also impacted positively on Kenmare. But don't let facts get in the way of your little bitter tirade my wee man. Obviously my St Pats comment from about 3 years ago, yes 3 years ago, sits too close to the bone for you? Roving Crokes had 30 players listed on the programme on Sunday. Have ye the numbers to field a second team next year? Ye had a 2nd team a few years back. Bit of a pick up in hurling numbers in East Kerry at juvenile level? It used be Crokes only had teams but Rathmore have good teams at under 12 and I think under 14 plus St Pats have got a team out at under 10 now.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2014 22:24:36 GMT
I wasnt complaining about the rule change,I was just saying that it did help the South Kerry clubs and probably made the Intermediate Championship a better and more competitive competition.
The North Kerry clubs have of course benefited from the old rule,but now lets say a South Kerry team would be entered into the senior championship next year,will the best players in South Kerry have a crack off the Senior or just stick with their clubs so they can play in the intermediate?
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Post by shannonsider on Sept 29, 2014 23:08:56 GMT
In a bar in Grange in Cork and the Langers are getting a great laugh out of this. Hope tisn't the Pinecroft you're drinking in Annascaul?
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Sept 30, 2014 5:45:27 GMT
In a bar in Grange in Cork and the Langers are getting a great laugh out of this. Hope tisn't the Pinecroft you're drinking in Annascaul? No, the other one. ...and I heard that the Pinecroft's reputation is blown out if all proportion. ...and I wasn't "drinking", I met a relative for one drink!
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Post by sidelined on Sept 30, 2014 9:26:16 GMT
As for the intermediate final,a good win by Kenmare are they good enough for Senior? I would think they would be competitive if they put in the effort and time,they would give Abbeydorney,Ballyheigue and Crotta a game of it but they wouldnt be strong enough for the rest of the teams. Of course the changing of the rules in this years Intermediate Championship helped the South Kerry clubs alot. Changing the rules??? You mean scrapping the farce whereby some North Kerry clubs play their Senior Panel players in the Intermediate championship before the Senior Championship has been started, thereby allowing a player to play both Senior & Intermediate in the same season. Rules eh? the rule change has helped the s. Kerry clubs , and lowered the standard at this grade. its stupid that a player can come on for 5 minutes at senior grade and play no more championship hurling for the year. change to rule out 15 that played last senior championship, plus players who were on Christy ring panel. run intermediate on c ring format as well and play it mid summer.
does it seem harsh on lixnaw that minor final fixed for next weekend v south Kerry and senior replay following sat. some players involved in both?.
no goals again in senior game, must be lowest total in history
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Post by hurlingman on Sept 30, 2014 9:42:27 GMT
Changing the rules??? You mean scrapping the farce whereby some North Kerry clubs play their Senior Panel players in the Intermediate championship before the Senior Championship has been started, thereby allowing a player to play both Senior & Intermediate in the same season. Rules eh? the rule change has helped the s. Kerry clubs , and lowered the standard at this grade. its stupid that a player can come on for 5 minutes at senior grade and play no more championship hurling for the year. change to rule out 15 that played last senior championship, plus players who were on Christy ring panel. run intermediate on c ring format as well and play it mid summer.
does it seem harsh on lixnaw that minor final fixed for next weekend v south Kerry and senior replay following sat. some players involved in both?.
no goals again in senior game, must be lowest total in history
Yes bu the South Kerry teams dont care about that as long as they can win the Intermediate every year. The fact they never take a chance and move up once they win it tells you they dont want to play at a higher level. The only team in resent years that have actually made the move up are Stacks when they won the Junior 2 years ago. Until they stop with his attitude of them being the victims they wont get anywhere
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Post by rovingfullforward on Sept 30, 2014 10:52:30 GMT
Jesus you're some gombeen. Where above did I complain about the Crokes losing? where exactly? Please point it out? Crokes were beaten by a far superior Kenmare team and well done to them. If you bothered your arse to read and understand the posts involved you would realise that the comment was on Kerrydude complaining about the rule change whereby the senior championship is on before or same time as Intermediate championship. A rule, my good man, which also impacted positively on Kenmare. But don't let facts get in the way of your little bitter tirade my wee man. Obviously my St Pats comment from about 3 years ago, yes 3 years ago, sits too close to the bone for you? You didnt thats why i said i was surprised by it, understand? Seeing as you felt St Pats were the worst thing in the world at the time. Then again St Pats arent the only team you have a grip with now are they? Its interesting to see you back again. Where did you disappear to when Crokes were knocked out of the football? A great man to comment when they were winning, not so much when they lose.... I'd rather not spend my whole time on a forum debating with empty bottles like yourself, hence my absence. Admittedly I am now doing that "Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in" Reference Also Crokes have only lost twice in County Championship in the last 5 years hence my opportunity to comment on such an event was fairly limited, now if I was a Stacks man I'd have been all over it!!!!! I'm sure you can understand that. I never had a grip with St Pats, a gripe though was another matter. I also reckon you have me confused for someone else in the real world. Roving Crokes had 30 players listed on the programme on Sunday. Have ye the numbers to field a second team next year? Ye had a 2nd team a few years back. Bit of a pick up in hurling numbers in East Kerry at juvenile level? It used be Crokes only had teams but Rathmore have good teams at under 12 and I think under 14 plus St Pats have got a team out at under 10 now. No we don't unfortunately. We may again in a few years when the minors and underage guys come through. That second team a few years back was made up of the guys just out of minor and around for the summer as well as the veterans plucked out of retirement. That junior team played about twice as many matches as the intermediate team which added to the enjoyment. St Pats may eventually be able to field a team made up of East Kerry players. The cheque book will be closed then! Changing the rules??? You mean scrapping the farce whereby some North Kerry clubs play their Senior Panel players in the Intermediate championship before the Senior Championship has been started, thereby allowing a player to play both Senior & Intermediate in the same season. Rules eh?
change to rule out 15 that played last senior championship, plus players who were on Christy ring panel. run intermediate on c ring format as well and play it mid summer It is also stupid that a NK team could field a strong (i.e. full of seniors) in the first round of the intermediate, then theoretically play those guys in a senior championship the week after and then play a weak intermediate in the next round of Intermediate championship. the rule change has helped the s. Kerry clubs , and lowered the standard at this grade. its stupid that a player can come on for 5 minutes at senior grade and play no more championship hurling for the year. change to rule out 15 that played last senior championship, plus players who were on Christy ring panel. run intermediate on c ring format as well and play it mid summer.
does it seem harsh on lixnaw that minor final fixed for next weekend v south Kerry and senior replay following sat. some players involved in both?.
no goals again in senior game, must be lowest total in history
Yes bu the South Kerry teams dont care about that as long as they can win the Intermediate every year. The fact they never take a chance and move up once they win it tells you they dont want to play at a higher level. The only team in resent years that have actually made the move up are Stacks when they won the Junior 2 years ago. Until they stop with his attitude of them being the victims they wont get anywhere Nothing wrong with winning an intermediate championship. In my opinion a team would have to win it a few times in a row before considering going up to senior, there is a significant gap in standard.
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Post by sidelined on Sept 30, 2014 11:21:22 GMT
good god roving read what I wrote; what north Kerry team can totally change their first teams year on year. surely its better to raise the standard and win it than making sure other teams cant. also its no great achievement for stacks to move up from junior grade, they are the only team in tralee
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Post by rovingfullforward on Sept 30, 2014 11:56:18 GMT
good god roving read what I wrote; what north Kerry team can totally change their first teams year on year. surely its better to raise the standard and win it than making sure other teams cant. also its no great achievement for stacks to move up from junior grade, they are the only team in tralee NK teams have consistently been putting out strng teams in 1st round of Intermediate Championship and then weak teams later on. It happens.
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Post by hurlingman on Sept 30, 2014 15:48:01 GMT
good god roving read what I wrote; what north Kerry team can totally change their first teams year on year. surely its better to raise the standard and win it than making sure other teams cant. also its no great achievement for stacks to move up from junior grade, they are the only team in tralee NK teams have consistently been putting out strng teams in 1st round of Intermediate Championship and then weak teams later on. It happens. Good man just ignore whats actually been said. It has lowered the level in the championship this year. You said ''In my opinion a team would have to win it a few times in a row before considering going up to senior, there is a significant gap in standard.'' yet you want NK teams in the Intermediate to be weaker. Having stronger NK teams is whats needed if the SK teams ever want to move on and bridge the gap, instead they just complain about it
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Post by rovingfullforward on Sept 30, 2014 16:32:38 GMT
NK teams have consistently been putting out strng teams in 1st round of Intermediate Championship and then weak teams later on. It happens. Good man just ignore whats actually been said. It has lowered the level in the championship this year. You said ''In my opinion a team would have to win it a few times in a row before considering going up to senior, there is a significant gap in standard.'' yet you want NK teams in the Intermediate to be weaker. Having stronger NK teams is whats needed if the SK teams ever want to move on and bridge the gap, instead they just complain about it ] Intermediate teams need to be made up of Intermediate players, not Senior players and Intermediate players. Is that too hard for you to understand? It is not about making a championship a weaker it is making it fairer. Nice of you to ignore my other posts too ;-)
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Post by hurlingman on Sept 30, 2014 16:55:42 GMT
Good man just ignore whats actually been said. It has lowered the level in the championship this year. You said ''In my opinion a team would have to win it a few times in a row before considering going up to senior, there is a significant gap in standard.'' yet you want NK teams in the Intermediate to be weaker. Having stronger NK teams is whats needed if the SK teams ever want to move on and bridge the gap, instead they just complain about it ] Intermediate teams need to be made up of Intermediate players, not Senior players and Intermediate players. Is that too hard for you to understand? It is not about making a championship a weaker it is making it fairer. Nice of you to ignore my other posts too ;-) Explain to us how teams can do that? No NK would be able to field two totally different teams. Is that too hard for you to understand? By your logic the same should apply to Crokes in football? Seem to have their fair share of senior players playing with their B team.... How is it making it fairer for the NK teams? Or is it just the poor SK who need it to be made fairer for?
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Post by rovingfullforward on Sept 30, 2014 17:26:32 GMT
] Intermediate teams need to be made up of Intermediate players, not Senior players and Intermediate players. Is that too hard for you to understand? It is not about making a championship a weaker it is making it fairer. Nice of you to ignore my other posts too ;-) Explain to us how teams can do that? No NK would be able to field two totally different teams. Is that too hard for you to understand? By your logic the same should apply to Crokes in football? Seem to have their fair share of senior players playing with their B team.... How is it making it fairer for the NK teams? Or is it just the poor SK who need it to be made fairer for? Simply by naming a senior panel at the start of the year that has absolutely no relation to the actual panel that starts the championship, therefore allowing players to start in the Intermediate championship and remain eligible for the senior championship. Is that hard to understand? Do you need me to draw it out for you in crayons to make it clearer? Can you understand reality?
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Post by sidelined on Sept 30, 2014 20:38:19 GMT
Explain to us how teams can do that? No NK would be able to field two totally different teams. Is that too hard for you to understand? By your logic the same should apply to Crokes in football? Seem to have their fair share of senior players playing with their B team.... How is it making it fairer for the NK teams? Or is it just the poor SK who need it to be made fairer for? Simply by naming a senior panel at the start of the year that has absolutely no relation to the actual panel that starts the championship, therefore allowing players to start in the Intermediate championship and remain eligible for the senior championship. Is that hard to understand? Do you need me to draw it out for you in crayons to make it clearer? Can you understand reality? who mentioned panels? one last time - rule out the 15 players that started last senior championship game and all players on county christy ring panel. how is that not so hard to understand?
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Post by rovingfullforward on Sept 30, 2014 20:59:53 GMT
Simply by naming a senior panel at the start of the year that has absolutely no relation to the actual panel that starts the championship, therefore allowing players to start in the Intermediate championship and remain eligible for the senior championship. Is that hard to understand? Do you need me to draw it out for you in crayons to make it clearer? Can you understand reality? who mentioned panels? one last time - rule out the 15 players that started last senior championship game and all players on county christy ring panel. how is that not so hard to understand? But clearly that doesn't work as the County Board had to change the rules this year re the Senior & Intermediate Championship and that pissed off the NK clubs. Jesus, the ignorance is phucking astounding.
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Post by hurlingman on Oct 1, 2014 9:19:20 GMT
Explain to us how teams can do that? No NK would be able to field two totally different teams. Is that too hard for you to understand? By your logic the same should apply to Crokes in football? Seem to have their fair share of senior players playing with their B team.... How is it making it fairer for the NK teams? Or is it just the poor SK who need it to be made fairer for? Simply by naming a senior panel at the start of the year that has absolutely no relation to the actual panel that starts the championship, therefore allowing players to start in the Intermediate championship and remain eligible for the senior championship. Is that hard to understand? Do you need me to draw it out for you in crayons to make it clearer? Can you understand reality? So now you say they can play in both? Before you said they should be totally different teams? Make up your mind for god sake.
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Post by hurlingman on Oct 1, 2014 9:20:52 GMT
who mentioned panels? one last time - rule out the 15 players that started last senior championship game and all players on county christy ring panel. how is that not so hard to understand? But clearly that doesn't work as the County Board had to change the rules this year re the Senior & Intermediate Championship and that pissed off the NK clubs. Jesus, the ignorance is phucking astounding. The only ones who were pissed off where the SK teams because they couldn't won it. Again explain how is it fair on the NK teams? Or as i said is it only the SK teams that it should be made fairer for?
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Post by hurlingman on Oct 1, 2014 9:22:57 GMT
Simply by naming a senior panel at the start of the year that has absolutely no relation to the actual panel that starts the championship, therefore allowing players to start in the Intermediate championship and remain eligible for the senior championship. Is that hard to understand? Do you need me to draw it out for you in crayons to make it clearer? Can you understand reality? who mentioned panels? one last time - rule out the 15 players that started last senior championship game and all players on county christy ring panel. how is that not so hard to understand? Because that doesn't suit the poor helpless SK teams who would rather the Intermediate be made weaker so they can win it instead of actually putting in the effort of beating the NK teams in it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2014 12:40:14 GMT
Clubs do name a first 15 which is usually the starting 15 from their last championship game the year before,they then name a second 15 for Division 2 and the Intermediate Championship and in some cases a third 15 for Division 3 and the Juinor Championship,all the clubs meet up at the start of the year and discuss these teams,some players get upgraded and some get down graded for various reasons,I dont know if the South Kerry clubs attend these meetings or not.
Any fella that is going well with the Intermediates will be pushing close to the Senior team for championship but if their only coming on as a sub then they should be allowed play Intermediate,if the player is starting for the Seniors though then they should be ruled out of the Intermediate Championship.
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