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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jul 3, 2014 19:14:02 GMT
Colms recovery aint goin well according to my very reliable source so chances of him donning the jersey in 2014 are nil apparently. Hopefully he will play for Kerry again. Hope is the thing with feathers and I'm for the birds!
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 3, 2014 22:44:17 GMT
okay emily
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Post by mandad on Jul 4, 2014 10:48:26 GMT
Michmack - I'm not sure that your friend is correct with regards to Colm. He was on the pitch last night and being put through a routine by the physio. People present were pleasantly surprised by his condition and would be giving him a chance for later in the year - if we are there.
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 4, 2014 11:10:07 GMT
Seems his recovery is going very well and he is very happy with the rehab. I would be surprised if he is not a quick healer and is not driven by a positive mental attitude.
A big prize for winning on Sunday is the increased possibility of getting to the All-Ireland semi final. Surely the players will leave everything on the field in search of a win, albeit they will have it all to do in PUC.
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Post by Jigz84 on Jul 4, 2014 13:40:11 GMT
I can't see the players not being up for this. There is nothing better than beating Cork in their own backyard and I believe the win is very much on for Kerry this Sunday. We need a consistent performance from Sheehan and one or two others have to get stuck in from the start and lay down a marker physically.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jul 4, 2014 14:10:47 GMT
Tomás's article will get you in the zone, see the thread, amazing.
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Post by jackmurphy on Jul 4, 2014 14:15:40 GMT
I can't see the players not being up for this. There is nothing better than beating Cork in their own backyard and I believe the win is very much on for Kerry this Sunday. We need a consistent performance from Sheehan and one or two others have to get stuck in from the start and lay down a marker physically. Ciarraí Abú Players will always be up for a Munster Final. But with these sides being so close, it could boil down to who wants it more. I read Donncha Walsh's interview when he said that he'd love to win this as players will be remembered for winning the last game in PUC. It wasn't really convincing - Players in Kerry are remembered for 1 thing - Sam Maguire, it looked as if Donnacha was tryiing to convince himself of the importance of this fixture. Not many Cork players get AI medals and with the 2 Munster Finals in PUC this year - I can see them wanting this one a bit more. Even though E FitzM will say that Kerry want to go the direct route - everyone in the panel will know deep down that Sunday's game will have no bearing on Kerry's chances of winning the AI.
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Post by delorean on Jul 4, 2014 14:23:53 GMT
Funnily enough, I think Sunday could have a huge bearing on September. From a Cork point of view, I feel like our season is hanging on by a thread after the confidence sapping reality check against the Dubs being compounded by the poor showing against Tipp. A defeat here and I can't really see us mustering up enough form in time to compete with Mayo, in all probability, on the August Bank Holiday. However, a win and we're on a huge upward curve with a more winnable quarter final awaiting. I'm not sure Kerry's situation is a whole pile different.
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Post by jackmurphy on Jul 4, 2014 14:38:10 GMT
Funnily enough, I think Sunday could have a huge bearing on September. From a Cork point of view, I feel like our season is hanging on by a thread after the confidence sapping reality check against the Dubs being compounded by the poor showing against Tipp. A defeat here and I can't really see us mustering up enough form in time to compete with Mayo, in all probability, on the August Bank Holiday. However, a win and we're on a huge upward curve with a more winnable quarter final awaiting. I'm not sure Kerry's situation is a whole pile different. I think the difference for Kerry is that with some players only just back from injury and some not selected due to injury, Kerry should be a lot stronger come QF time. The losers have the advantage of playing a team from the weaker pool. Both would obviously prefer the win but IMO it's a lot more important for Cork.
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Post by haryegsnbaken on Jul 4, 2014 16:15:51 GMT
If Kerry can pull this off on Sunday then it gives the whole squad a boost going forward. Winning in Pairc Uí Chaoimh without a full fit and firing squad could only be good for us surely. Head back down the road then to Killarney and bolt the gates and get the injuries and other problems sorted. There is huge incentive for both teams this Sunday. And as delorean says if we can drive a nail in the Cork football coffin as well then its a double whammy.
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Post by fealeside on Jul 4, 2014 17:07:10 GMT
I would be worried enough about Sunday. There isn't an ounce of pace in the full-back line and no steel in the half-back line. I would have left Marc at 3, paid Crowley at 6 and Young at 7. Enright is very lucky to be starting. Whatever he's doing in training he isn't bringing to matchday and this has been the case from the start. I just think he's had so many chances at this stage and is not tight enough. He is a yard off his man all the time. Murphy was flying in the corner I just don't see the point in moving him. Our midfield has been poor and Maher needs to be motm on Sunday. The one thing that gives me hope though is our bench is strong for the first time in years. Re the Gooch, wouldn't it be something if we got to 3rd Sunday in September and he comes off the bench with 20 minutes to go?!
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Post by fivenarow on Jul 4, 2014 20:41:34 GMT
I hope that I'm wrong but I cant see us us getting within 5 pts of Cork, which would be acceptable given the injuries etc, if we dont get a decent start & settle early on it could be a shambles.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2014 22:34:20 GMT
You could be right . It's hard to see Kerry wining the way they are playing and the way some of the players are performing . We need huge games from Maher and Buckley . It will be interesting to see which Kerry backs pick up which Cork forward . Thatt will have a huge bearing on the game . Killian has done well on Kelly in the past so why not try it again . I would put Enright on Kerrigan , Murphy on Hurley , Marc on O'Driscoll ,O'Mahony on Goulding , Fionn on Collins . Hurley is the biggest danger to Kerry well capable of getting 8 or 9 points on his own . O'Brien , Sheehan , and Walsh need to pick up a lot of loose bal and if we can supply Geaney , Declan and O'Donoghue with good ball we could do some serious damage in there . That is our best hope to win getting fast low ball in there to them three to get the scorers . I would bring Crowley on early if things don't start well . David Moran is not fit so it's hard to know if he can do anything if he comes on . I would move Sheehan to Midfield bring Declan to center forward move O'Brien into the full forward line and bring on Darren . Other options would be bring Lyne on in the Backs and maybe give Daithi Casey and chance late in the game to run at the cork defence . Anyway good luck to the Minors and Seniors tomorrow it would be a nice double .
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Post by aranteorainn on Jul 5, 2014 10:34:16 GMT
I hope that I'm wrong but I cant see us us getting within 5 pts of Cork, which would be acceptable given the injuries etc, if we dont get a decent start & settle early on it could be a shambles. Cork people are thinking the same thing only in reverse. No idea of how Cork will play , could be awesome[ unlikely] or could be terrible [ unfortunately much mor likely]. The one thing that can be predicted is that Kerry will perform , always do against Cork.
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Post by sullyschoice on Jul 5, 2014 11:11:56 GMT
The toilet behind the covered terrace in Ennis didnt exactly have gold plated taps either. In fact it wasnt even a toilet. It was an outside wall that fellas stood against.
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Post by ansúilleabhánach on Jul 5, 2014 13:40:00 GMT
...Kerry will perform , always do against Cork. True; our problem in recent years has been stopping the performance half way through the game! I really feel that nationally Dribbles are under-rated. If we finish within a score would be happy. Here's hoping I'm proven completely misguided about 15:35 amárach.
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Post by brigid on Jul 5, 2014 18:15:35 GMT
If Cork play a 2 man full forward line, will Kerry get 1 of the full back line to follow the "roving" forward? If Kerry do that then they playing the way Cork want them to play. So advantage Cork. Or should Kerry management say let them play that way but we are playing a 3 man back line. Or should Kerry get 1 of the full forward line to pick up the "roving" Cork forward. If Cork hurlers played a 3 man full back line V Clare, would they have won the AI. In the league game, Murphy followed the "roving" forward. On 4 occasions the ball was put into Murphy's territory, collected by a Cork forward (Hurley?) who scored 4 points. That is why I said that if Kerry follow the roving forward it is to Cork's advantage. We will wait and see.
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Post by kerryexile on Jul 5, 2014 19:11:13 GMT
Kerry to win by 4 or 5 points, game will be very tight but Cork team work will not be as good as it should be and it will cost them scores. Crowley is surely the first sub for defence but I would like to see Griffin coming on too - he needs the experience. Funny how there are only 2 out & out defenders in the 11 subs.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jul 5, 2014 19:14:59 GMT
This game is like most annual renewals, unpredictable, and even when it was predictable it never went off or turned out as expected, or even half expected, all characteristic of a local derby of titans. Anyone who gets any prediction remotely right, even half right, deserves a medal for that alone.
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Post by kerryfanatic on Jul 5, 2014 19:56:37 GMT
Best of luck tomorrow Kerry..u can do it!
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 5, 2014 20:47:25 GMT
Michmack - I'm not sure that your friend is correct with regards to Colm. He was on the pitch last night and being put through a routine by the physio. People present were pleasantly surprised by his condition and would be giving him a chance for later in the year - if we are there. Hope springs eternal in the human breast.
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Post by Deise Exile on Jul 5, 2014 20:57:59 GMT
Munster finals are special occasions. Must say I hate PUIC though. Probably because we often lose there or rarely win. Let's hope tomorrow is different. Ciarrai Abu. Bring it on!!
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Post by theumpire on Jul 5, 2014 23:00:42 GMT
Michmack - I'm not sure that your friend is correct with regards to Colm. He was on the pitch last night and being put through a routine by the physio. People present were pleasantly surprised by his condition and would be giving him a chance for later in the year - if we are there. Hope springs eternal in the human breast. A long term injury such as he has, his mental attituide can vary so much during it, some days after doing hours of monotonous rehab he may feel he is not making any progress after doing such drills for weeks, and other days when in a better frame of mind he may think he is seeing real progression in his knee. It wont be till next march when we see him out in a pitch though id say as I think even the latter stages of the county championship should the crokes reach that stage will be even too soon.
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Post by seamo on Jul 6, 2014 13:43:03 GMT
Lets hope Eamon and co have learnt from their mistakes last year and aren't slow in making the changes when their needed.
Great 1st half, Paul Geaney has well and truly arrived now!
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Post by ansúilleabhánach on Jul 6, 2014 14:38:50 GMT
...Kerry will perform , always do against Cork. True; our problem in recent years has been stopping the performance half way through the game! I really feel that nationally Dribbles are under-rated. If we finish within a score would be happy. Here's hoping I'm proven completely misguided about 15:35 amárach. Never been so happy to call it so wrong!!!
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Post by seamo on Jul 6, 2014 14:41:35 GMT
Well done to players and management, great performance and incredible scoring.
But please lets not get carried away with this!! People have been overreacting for years about our lack of underage success, and there was too much pessimism prior to the Cork game. There will be tougher challenges ahead if we are going to beat some of the stronger teams.
But for now, nothing beats hammering Cork in a Munster final in Cork!!!
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Post by townend on Jul 6, 2014 14:44:16 GMT
fcuking hell didn't see that coming, well done Eammon and your team, some display of pure kerry football Hon the kingdom.
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Post by inchperfect on Jul 6, 2014 15:15:30 GMT
I wasn't that surprised when we raced into a big lead. The biggest surprise for me was that there was no comeback/backlash from Cork, like in recent years. Excellent display, how good will we be next year with Cooper and possibly Tommy Walsh to add to what we have now...
Shambolic from Cork though.
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Post by haryegsnbaken on Jul 6, 2014 15:15:35 GMT
Great Team display today. Fitness levels were good. Albeit it was a poor display from Cork. Delighted for Shane Enright. He did a real "Tom O Sullivan" job on Brian Hurley. When will we know the dates for our quarter final does anyone know?
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Post by aranteorainn on Jul 6, 2014 15:32:18 GMT
I hope that I'm wrong but I cant see us us getting within 5 pts of Cork, which would be acceptable given the injuries etc, if we dont get a decent start & settle early on it could be a shambles. Cork people are thinking the same thing only in reverse. No idea of how Cork will play , could be awesome[ unlikely] or could be terrible [ unfortunately much mor likely]. The one thing that can be predicted is that Kerry will perform , always do against Cork. If I can quote myself. The wrong team started as against Tipp. Woeful stuff. Not sure about Kerry , wont get the freedom of the pitch Cork gave today.
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