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Post by kerrygold on Jun 15, 2014 9:39:56 GMT
Summer time and summer football is upon us, right lads, time to have a cut at naming the team for next weekend.
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Post by greengold35 on Jun 15, 2014 9:48:40 GMT
Brian Kelly Marc O'Se Mark Griffin Shane Enright Peter Crowley Fionn Fitzgerald Killian Young David Moran Anthony Maher Darran Declan Donncha Stephen O'Brien Paul Geaney Kieran O'Leary (Capt)
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 15, 2014 10:20:08 GMT
Declan might be at 14 with Sheehan at 11. Paul Murphy probably did enough during the league to start if he has held his form inside at training. Marc's league form was very poor at best. County championship form suggests that Sheehan is probably ahead of Maher and Moran at the moment. With O'Donoghue out, I don't see how they can afford to leave Sheehan on the bench, just from the free taking options alone.
The backs look reasonable enough, however there is an element of the "Hail Mary" about the rest of the team from 8-15. It will be interesting to see what kerry come up over the next while. The transition of the Kerry team seems to have developed momentum very quickly resulting from the retirees and the injured.
New young players will need to step up to the plate over the next while. It is always interesting to watch a new Kerry team develop. Leaving Killarney in 1987 one wondered would we ever see their like again. looking at what Kerry did between 1996 and 2011 we should look to the future with optimism and enjoy the trip that commences again. The outgoing generation were both blue chip and sublime, we see their true weight now in their absence.
Down time in Kerry is about cleansing the footballing soul and gathering a strengthening of resolve to challenge again. The next generation deserve our fullest support as they strike out. Cracking day down Iveragh way, still blue sea, warm, lush growth, the rhododendrons going over, the hydrangeas peeping out, the Ring of Kerry heaving with visitors, yerra, we'll enjoy the summer ahead of us and hopefully a day or two out in Croker.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 15, 2014 11:13:04 GMT
Regarding the team named above, I would prefer a more senior player inside...maybe swap Declan and KOL if KOL is to play.
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Post by seamo on Jun 15, 2014 14:59:30 GMT
I feel like I've been waiting for this game for years!!!! Just want Kerry to get started. Brian Kelly
Marc O'Se Mark Griffin Paul Murphy
Peter Crowley Fionn Fitzgerald Killian Young
David Moran Anthony Maher
Darran O Sullivan Brian Sheehan Donncha Walsh
Stephen O'Brien Declan O Sullivan Kieran O'Leary
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Post by sullyschoice on Jun 16, 2014 7:28:17 GMT
What time is this game on at on Sunday
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Post by glengael on Jun 16, 2014 8:52:27 GMT
3.30 according to what I heard on the radio yesterday.
Our first visit at senior level to Cusack Park since 2004.
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Post by sidelined on Jun 16, 2014 8:57:07 GMT
Brian Kelly Marc O'Se Mark Griffin Shane Enright Peter Crowley Fionn Fitzgerald Killian Young David Moran Anthony Maher Darran Declan Donncha Stephen O'Brien Paul Geaney Kieran O'Leary (Capt) paul murphy will surely start at corner back, where to put marc is the question 2, 3,5 or six?. great experience but doesnt have speed of yore. maybe man to bring on to close out this game and give younger lads experience. god it would be strange to start championship without an o se. brian sheehan should start at 9 or 11 need a freetaker, maybe move declan to 14 and geaney to 15
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Post by bomberliston on Jun 16, 2014 11:28:48 GMT
I feel like I've been waiting for this game for years!!!! Just want Kerry to get started. I know what you mean. The Cork game in Tralee seems like a long time ago now. Hopefully we'll see a better second half performance next Sunday!
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Post by kerryeye on Jun 16, 2014 14:29:34 GMT
1. Brendan Kealy 2. Marc Ó Sé 3. Mark Griffin 4. Paul Murphy 5. Peter Crowley 6. Fionn Fitzgerald 7. Killian Young 8. Anthony Maher 9. David Moran 10. Darran O'Sullivan 11. Bryan Sheehan 12. Donnacha Walsh 13. Stephen O'Brien 14.Declan O Sullivan 15. Paul Geaney
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16. Brian Kelly 17. Jonathan Lyne 18. Aidan O'Mahony 19. Shane Enright 20.Kieran O'Leary 21. Kieran Donaghy 22. Barry John Keane 23. Jack Sherwood 24. Mikey Geaney 25. Pa Kilkenny 26. Daithí Casey
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Post by diego on Jun 17, 2014 19:57:31 GMT
Kerry Senior Football Team V Clare www.kerrygaa.ie/news.php?item=1635&full=yThe Kerry Senior Football Team to play Clare in the Munster GAA Football Championship Semi Final in Ennis on Sunday sees 5 players make their full Championship debut. Brian Kelly in goal, Paul Murphy at corner back, Michael and Paul Geaney and Stephen O’Brien in attack all come into a side that is captained by Fionn Fitzgerald of Dr Crokes. The Geaney cousins made their Championship debuts as substitutes in last year’s Championship campaign, but Brian Kelly, Paul Murphy and Stephen O’Brien get their first taste of Championship action. The team is as follows: 1. Brian Kelly Killarney Legion 2. Paul Murphy Rathmore 3. Marc Ó Sé An Ghaeltacht 4. Shane Enright Tarbert 5. Peter Crowley Laune Rangers 6. Killian Young Renard 7. Fionn Fitzgerald (Capt) Dr Crokes 8. Anthony Maher Duagh 9. David Moran Kerins O’Rahillys 10. Darran O’Sullivan Glenbeigh-Glencar 11. Bryan Sheehan St Marys 12. Michael Geaney Dingle 13. Stephen O’Brien Kenmare 14. Declan O’Sullivan Dromid Pearses 15. Paul Geaney Dingle Fir Ionaid: 16. Brendan Kealy Kilcummin 17. Aidan O’Mahony Rathmore 18. Kieran O’Leary Dr Crokes 19. Mark Griffin St Michaels/Foilmore 20. Jonathan Lyne Killarney Legion 21. Barry John Keane Kerins O’Rahillys 22. Pa Kilkenny Glenbeigh/Glencar 23. Daithí Casey Dr Crokes 24. Paul O’Donoghue St Marys 25. Kieran Donaghy Austin Stacks 26. Donnchadh Walsh Cromane Bainisteóir: Eamonn Fitzmaurice (Finuge) Traenálaí: Cian O’Neill (Moorefield, Kildare) Róghnóirí: Diarmuid Ó Murchú (Daingean Uí Chúis), Mikey Sheehy (Austin Stacks). Rehabbing from Injury James O’Donoghue Killarney Legion (Shoulder) Johnny Buckley Dr Crokes (Ankle) Jack Sherwood Firies (Hamstring) Colm Cooper Dr Crokes (Knee Ligaments)
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Post by sullyschoice on Jun 17, 2014 20:02:30 GMT
Why is Griffin not at FB
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Post by Premier on Jun 17, 2014 20:14:03 GMT
Surely Walsh must have some sort of injury if he's that far down the pecking order
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Post by shannonsider on Jun 17, 2014 20:14:52 GMT
Well, on the positive side: - Kelly in goals is the right call I think. - Good to see Declan and Darran back in the side. - Good to see Murphy and O'Brien rewarded for good league form.
However...I simply don't get the selection of Geaney at half forward. He is not up to this level and it has been proven time and again. Daithi Casey or Kieran O'Leary mightn't be top class at this level either, but they are streets ahead of him. Not sure is Donnacha injured or what. Killian Young is not a centre back either, so can only hope he goes left half back with Crowley centre.
Should really be beating Clare well, so not sure if we'll learn much. Wouldn't be very confident going to Cork with that team on July 6th. We'll see how it goes.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 17, 2014 20:19:52 GMT
Bit of sharp criticism here for Geaney, not a great way to support the team.
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Post by timmy on Jun 17, 2014 20:24:45 GMT
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Post by shannonsider on Jun 17, 2014 20:28:12 GMT
Bit of sharp criticism here for Geaney, not a great way to support the team. Ah come on Annascaul, he's not good enough and most people who actually watch the games are pretty much in agreement on that.
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Post by diego on Jun 17, 2014 21:03:42 GMT
Surely Walsh must have some sort of injury if he's that far down the pecking order Ya, hard to think of any other reason than that.
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Post by dingle101 on Jun 17, 2014 21:13:59 GMT
Bit of sharp criticism here for Geaney, not a great way to support the team. Ah come on Annascaul, he's not good enough and most people who actually watch the games are pretty much in agreement on that. I know being a dingle man I may be biased but Eamann know's best. Playing good for his club and is miles ahead of O'Leary
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Post by lár na páirce on Jun 17, 2014 21:19:15 GMT
Mikey Geaney was supposdly flying in training and had a stormer v Meath in the recent challenge game,Worth a shot anyway.
Suprising line-up,Wonder is Fitzy thinking of having his best team finish the game.Bench could make a big difference
Aidan O’Mahony Kieran O’Leary Mark Griffin Jonathan Lyne Daithí Casey Kieran Donaghy Donnchadh Walsh
All good subs to spring
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 17, 2014 21:30:23 GMT
Bit of sharp criticism here for Geaney, not a great way to support the team. Ah come on Annascaul, he's not good enough and most people who actually watch the games are pretty much in agreement on that. Ah come on Annascaul my hole. You don't come on here writing off players like that: it does nothing for anyone least of all yourself.
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Post by shannonsider on Jun 17, 2014 21:44:43 GMT
Ah come on Annascaul, he's not good enough and most people who actually watch the games are pretty much in agreement on that. Ah come on Annascaul my hole. You don't come on here writing off players like that: it does nothing for anyone least of all yourself. Get off the fence. Do you think he should be starting? I don't and I'm only voicing what a lot of people are thinking and you know it. I'm not attacking a particular player for no reason. I just think that Casey is a much better half forward who has far better potential and could do with some championship experience. We all know Donnacha will likely start against Cork if fit anyway.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 17, 2014 22:17:14 GMT
Ah come on Annascaul my hole. You don't come on here writing off players like that: it does nothing for anyone least of all yourself. Get off the fence. Do you think he should be starting? I don't and I'm only voicing what a lot of people are thinking and you know it. I'm not attacking a particular player for no reason. I just think that Casey is a much better half forward who has far better potential and could do with some championship experience. We all know Donnacha will likely start against Cork if fit anyway. The way you probably should have aired your opinion was by saying that you'd prefer to see Daithi Casey in there or that you are wondering why Daithi Casey isn't starting. What you shouldn't have said imo is that the lad isn't up to it or he isn't good enough... and I would feel quite strongly that you are out of order. Also players can develop: look at the progress of some of the Dublin players over the last three years. It does beg the question: if you think that a lot of people are thinking it, why do you feel the need to voice it yourself then? Do I think he should start? Essentially I am on the fence: I take a fairly passive view and tend to trust the management to know a whole pile more than me given they are at training and I am not. Would I put him on my team? No but then again I wouldn't come on here anonymously and declare like some kind of sage that he is "not up to this level".
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Post by shannonsider on Jun 17, 2014 22:45:33 GMT
Get off the fence. Do you think he should be starting? I don't and I'm only voicing what a lot of people are thinking and you know it. I'm not attacking a particular player for no reason. I just think that Casey is a much better half forward who has far better potential and could do with some championship experience. We all know Donnacha will likely start against Cork if fit anyway. The way you probably should have aired your opinion was by saying that you'd prefer to see Daithi Casey in there or that you are wondering why Daithi Casey isn't starting. What you shouldn't have said imo is that the lad isn't up to it or he isn't good enough... and I would feel quite strongly that you are out of order. Also players can develop: look at the progress of some of the Dublin players over the last three years. It does beg the question: if you think that a lot of people are thinking it, why do you feel the need to voice it yourself then? Do I think he should start? Essentially I am on the fence: I take a fairly passive view and tend to trust the management to know a whole pile more than me given they are at training and I am not. Would I put him on my team? No but then again I wouldn't come on here anonymously and declare like some kind of sage that he is "not up to this level". Long story short, you are agreeing with me. As for discussion on here, I'm surprised all this hasn't been deleted to be honest, but what exactly is this forum for, if not discussing the Kerry Senior football squad? I'll say no more. We'll see what happens on the field.
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 17, 2014 22:56:12 GMT
Still a share of quality in the team if the players step up to the plate and perform over the summer. Looking forward to seeing where the players will be two years into Cian O'Neill's care as the season develops.
Looking forward to seeing Marc, killian, Bryan, Darran and Declan debunk the notion that players still need to play NFL at a certain stage of their career.
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Post by givehimaball on Jun 18, 2014 6:56:45 GMT
Number of Championship Starts
Marc Ó Sé 71 Declan O'Sullivan 61 Killian Young 38 Bryan Sheehan 31 Darren O'Sullivan 23 Anthony Maher 17 Shane Enright 9 Peter Crowley 7 Fionn Fitzgerald 3 David Moran 2 Brian Kelly 0 Paul Murphy 0 Mikey Geaney 0 Stephen O'Brien 0 Paul Geaney 0
Aidan O'Mahony 51 Kieran Donaghy 38 Donnacha Walsh 29 Brendan Kealy 22 Kieran O'Leary 11 Mark Griffin 2 Jonathan Lyne 0 Barry John Keane 0 Pa Kilkenny 0 Daithi Casey 0 Paul O'Donoghue 0
5 who never started a Championship game starting and 5 more who never started a Championship game on the bench.
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Post by givehimaball on Jun 18, 2014 7:13:52 GMT
Looking at the line up and the way the subs are listed I would say Donaghy and Walsh are both not fully fit and are on the bench in case of extreme emergency - Really wouldnt be surprised if we see neither on Sunday, unless things are going very badly. As for midfield I'd also be wondering how fit Moran is? I'd be thinking Donaghy is named on the bench as opposed to on the injured list because of the lack of midfield cover. A lot more inexperienced a team that we are used to when it comes to Championship time. A hell of a lot of questions but that's part of the fun. Crowley, Enright and Murphy from the starting 15 are all on 1 black card after the league. This could be significant later on in the summer with the new rules on black card suspensions, especially if we end on going the scenic route. For Clare I would imagine they are thinking about 1992. They have the advantage of 2 games in 2 weeks under the belt, so they are up and motoring. They had the rusty diesel game the first day and what sounded like a much more comfortable day out the last day even though Fraher field can be a tricky place to go visit on occasion. www.terracetalk.com/kerry-football/game/367/1992-Kerry-Vs-Clare
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Post by givehimaball on Jun 18, 2014 7:23:50 GMT
Looking forward to seeing Marc, killian, Bryan, Darran and Declan debunk the notion that players still need to play NFL at a certain stage of their career. I think this will be hard for some of them to do especially since Marc played 5 games (Darran and Bryan played 4 games (Darran only picked up 55 minutes across those 4 games, while Bryan picked up 191 minutes)in the league this year. Only Declan and Killian didnt feature in the league, and with Killian I definitely think if he could have played he would have played - especially since over the last 3 years Killian has only missed 1 league game playing 21 out of 22 league games.
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Post by inforthebreaks on Jun 18, 2014 8:58:37 GMT
Number of Championship Starts Marc Ó Sé 71 Declan O'Sullivan 61 Killian Young 38 Bryan Sheehan 31 Darren O'Sullivan 23 Anthony Maher 17 Shane Enright 9 Peter Crowley 7 Fionn Fitzgerald 3 David Moran 2 Brian Kelly 0 Paul Murphy 0 Mikey Geaney 0 Stephen O'Brien 0 Paul Geaney 0 Aidan O'Mahony 51 Kieran Donaghy 38 Donnacha Walsh 29 Brendan Kealy 22 Kieran O'Leary 11 Mark Griffin 2 Jonathan Lyne 0 Barry John Keane 0 Pa Kilkenny 0 Daithi Casey 0 Paul O'Donoghue 0 5 who never started a Championship game starting and 5 more who never started a Championship game on the bench. Has Barry John Keane really never started a championship match? I'm surprised at that, He seems to have been around for a good long while, albeit very peripherally over the past few years.
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Post by givehimaball on Jun 18, 2014 9:03:57 GMT
Has Barry John Keane really never started a championship match? I'm surprised at that, He seems to have been around for a good long while, albeit very peripherally over the past few years. Basing it on this. www.terracetalk.com/kerry-football/player/94/BarryJohn-Keane10 of the match day panel have never started a Championship game. I wonder how many years back you would have to go to match that stat?
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