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Post by sidelined on Sept 5, 2014 22:52:07 GMT
all ireland hurling final is the greatest day out for any gaa supporter, been to a couple in the last couple of years . be in for the minor match which normally turns out to be a great game . go down under the stand between games and savor the atmosphere, back up for the senior match and sit back, relax and enjoy the match. you can feel the tension of the rival supporters and enjoy it all.
as for sundays game very hard to call; can tipp maintain their momentum and with a youthful team prevail, or will cody get another all ireland out of his squad. will that squad be the difference as kk have more experience to bring on and turn the game their way. having said that kk changing their goalie for a final normally not a good idea.
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Post by seamo on Sept 7, 2014 16:08:15 GMT
Christ hurling seems to get better and better every year. Glad Tipp pulled it back, both teams played great, draw really was the fairest result.
Who needs Garth's fans money when we've got all these draws!!! lol
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Post by buck02 on Sept 7, 2014 16:09:33 GMT
That hurling match was almost as good as a game of football
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Post by kerrygold on Sept 7, 2014 16:13:10 GMT
Tipp will be kicking themselves!
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Post by buck02 on Sept 7, 2014 16:14:06 GMT
The penalty rule is some farce
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Post by kerrygold on Sept 7, 2014 16:20:49 GMT
Having to stop on the 21 seems to be causing some form of a mental block for the striking player. They'll have to revisit it if the advantage goes for the attacking team. Tipp should have bagged that game big time.
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Post by kerry4life on Sept 7, 2014 17:00:47 GMT
The scoring by both teams in the second half was unreal. A scoreline of over 60 points between them is just amazing. Taught Tipp looked more dangerous but couldn't get the second half goal they needed to push on. Great result for he neutral though as we get to see it all again in 3 weekends time. Taught the ref was brilliant left plenty go so the game was free flowing. Awesome stuff. Lar Corbet looks like his old self with those bursts of pace through defense. That would have being a contender of goal of the year if his effort in the 2nd half went in.
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Post by seamo on Sept 7, 2014 17:24:58 GMT
The scoring by both teams in the second half was unreal. A scoreline of over 60 points between them is just amazing. Taught Tipp looked more dangerous but couldn't get the second half goal they needed to push on. Great result for he neutral though as we get to see it all again in 3 weekends time. Taught the ref was brilliant left plenty go so the game was free flowing. Awesome stuff. Lar Corbet looks like his old self with those bursts of pace through defense. That would have being a contender of goal of the year if his effort in the 2nd half went in. Yeah referee did an excellent job, left things flow and was decisive with everything he did.
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 7, 2014 18:56:39 GMT
Ger Loughnane said that this game put hurling onto another level. I didn't think 2009 and 2010 could be bettered. Then we have the 2013 replay, but this was another level again.
When KK get two more goals than you tis hard to avoid defeat.
Tipp dispelled any doubts about their character today. They must tie up Richie Power though the next day.
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Post by fitz on Sept 7, 2014 19:16:28 GMT
Best hurling match I've ever seen. As much as Tipp lost out on penalties, they found a way back, the point taking was breathtaking on both sides. The game had it all, I would say what cost Tipp today was their repeated over cooking of the hand pass, ruined at least a half dozen promising attacks. Great spots in fairness for once to the umpires on Gleeson's pick off the ground and the final free. Richie Power's skill for both his goals, brilliant. Lar, class. He should never given Callinan the last goal chance hand pass, there was no room. Delighted for Callinan as he had bottle questions hanging, poor penalty as he landed it too close so easily smothered but his point and free taking were flawless. Both teams, wide counts were paltry.
Fantastic stuff, skills, thrills and iron will.
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Post by fitz on Sept 7, 2014 19:25:03 GMT
Ger Loughnane said that this game put hurling onto another level. I didn't think 2009 and 2010 could be bettered. Then we have the 2013 replay, but this was another level again. When KK get two more goals than you tis hard to avoid defeat. Tipp dispelled any doubts about their character today. They must tie up Richie Power though the next day. Indeed Mick, keep a clean sheet against the Cats, goals I mean, you have to believe you definitely win. Obviously an argument that obfuscates horrifically once it leaves paper.
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Post by veteran on Sept 7, 2014 19:42:27 GMT
I tuned into the soccer match after the hurling but gave up after about ten minutes. Could not whip up enthusiasm for a tractor race after watching formula one.
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Post by kerryexile on Sept 7, 2014 21:55:45 GMT
I thought it was an unfair to younger players to see Henry Shefflin coming on with about 4 minutes to go - they are trying to give him a tenth medal. He has been unbelievable down through the years but, viewed objectively on his current level of performance, I don't think he deserved to be brought in to a titanic struggle like today. I don't think he touched the ball once and and I also think that Kilkenny heads dropped when they saw him - they knew it was the kind of game that they needed very man to pull his weight. It's hard to be critical of such a genius but that is my opinion.
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Post by seamo on Sept 7, 2014 22:04:34 GMT
I thought it was an unfair to younger players to see Henry Shefflin coming on with about 4 minutes to go - they are trying to give him a tenth medal. He has been unbelievable down through the years but, viewed objectively on his current level of performance, I don't think he deserved to be brought in to a titanic struggle like today. I don't think he touched the ball once and and I also think that Kilkenny heads dropped when they saw him - they knew it was the kind of game that they needed very man to pull his weight. It's hard to be critical of such a genius but that is my opinion. A bit unfair. Brian Cody is probably the most ruthless manager the GAA has seen. Tommy Walsh wasn't brought on despite what he's done in the past, so I'm sure Cody was thinking objectively with regards to Henry.
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Post by Jigz84 on Sept 8, 2014 8:17:07 GMT
Umpires were shocking yesterday. The first 2 Hawkeye decisions should've been spotted in real time. None of the penalties should've been given as both fouls occurred outside the large square.
Kilkenny were up 4 or 5 points with 7 minutes to go ... sounds very familiar to us anyway!
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Post by buck02 on Sept 8, 2014 9:09:44 GMT
It was just on the radio that Podge Collins and his brother have opted to play football only next year.
Big change in Clare from this time last year when we were told they could dominate hurling for years to come.
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 8, 2014 10:05:51 GMT
All-Ireland hurling finals have become boundless in their capacity to delight and crush but even as the teams and supporters gathered their senses before leaving Croke Park yesterday, no one was surprised: A draw! Of course. Trust hurling to produce the one unexpected outcome.
For the third consecutive year the All-Ireland hurling final finished in a draw, with Kilkenny’s haul of 3-22 matched by Tipperary’s 1-28. From the first whistle, both teams conspired to transport the crowded house in Croke Park into a kind of dream, with score after brilliant score defining the afternoon. Tipperary were the architects of several excellent goal chances. They had two penalties saved, saw Lar Corbett hammer a terrific shot against the post and Kilkenny’s Eoin Murphy deflect Patrick Maher’s 59th minute drive over the crossbar. Other teams might have taken these disappointments as a sign from the cosmos, particularly as the black-and-amber men demonstrated such coolness in front of goals that they seemed to finish them in slow motion. Richie Power, born for these days, found the net in each half and TJ Reid, a colossal force in the Kilkenny attack in compiling 1-8, pushed his team into the lead with a snap strike just after half-time.
Momentum swung each way with the goals but it was the strikes from distance, the relentless series of jaw-dropping points which defined the day. The shooters erred just nine times, with John O’Dwyer’s 90m
free to win the day bringing Tipperary’s total shots missed to four.
“It says a lot about the skill of the players first of all,” said Brian Cody of the overall shooting display. “To create the goal chances the ball has to be won and there are a lot of players on the field capable of winning that original ball whether in the sky or on the ground. So a lot of skill by both teams.”
O’Dwyer’s 71st-minute strike seemed like the coup de grace of a perfectly timed late raid by Tipperary, who reeled off three points from play in three minutes to level the match. Tipp’s composure in that period was extraordinary but the passage of play which led to the free was contentious, with Brian Hogan penalised for charging into Padraic Maher as he advanced in possession.
“So did I,” smiled Brian Cody when told the call may have been harsh. “It might have been a free for us . . . I presumed it was at first. But if the ball went over the bar, it was their game . . . So thanks be to God it didn’t.”
It was as if both managers knew the day was in the lap of the gods by then. The match was riveting: it seemed pass in the blink of an eye but the periods of dominance shifted so quickly and were so rich in quality and incident that the details of the game were difficult to process.
Richie Hogan landed a series of deft second-half points in keeping with his excellent season only for Noel McGrath to respond with two audacious strikes, signalling a ravenous Tipperary appetite for battle. Neither team blinked when it came to self-belief or faith in one another. Séamus Callanan and Lar Corbett were in electrifying form in the Tipp attack while Patrick Bonner Maher, so often the facilitator of glory for team-mates, burst free for Tipperary’s only goal in the 21st minute. Shortly after that, Tipp had built a six-point lead. With 13 minutes left, they trailed by four. They hurled on.
For all the attacking brilliance, Kilkenny’s Paul Murphy and Cillian Buckley were nimble and fierce in defending their own patch of grass while at the other end Tipp’s Cathal Barrett and Paddy Stapleton emerged from a thicket of bodies to clear ball after ball. The tussle for possession and space was relentless, which made the rate and quality of scoring all the more of a trip. It was nonsensically brilliant.
“To be honest I don’t know,” said Brian Cody when asked about how he felt about what had transpired. “I have no real phenomenal feelings. Obviously you want to win . . . and we neither won nor lost so am I just as I am.”
It was such a breathlessly furious encounter that the big pre-match speculation about Henry Shefflin’s role was almost forgotten. The Ballyhale legend drew a huge reaction when introduced in the 67th minute, even as Tipp were on the cusp of their late surge. In other circumstances, Kilkenny may have called upon their talisman earlier but the on-field players gave Cody few reasons to call them ashore.
“They were playing very well and that is the reality. They were playing excellent and we were really going well at the time too. But that is a call you make and that is it.”
Kilkenny will study the reasons why they didn’t protect their late lead here. But the tone and scope of the match did not really allow for a sensible conclusion. The teams just blazed away, seemingly locked into a state where they responded in kind to the brilliance of the other side.
Maybe Tipperary could rue a few chances not created but Eamonn O’Shea, summing up the spirit of this wonderful day, waved any such worries away.
“Look! They are forwards. They work on instinct. Sometimes it turns out right and sometimes it doesn’t. You have to go with it . . . you can’t have an inquiry every time a guy makes a decision. You just have to go with it. Ups and downs. Ups and downs, you know.”
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Post by kerry4life on Sept 8, 2014 11:54:51 GMT
It was just on the radio that Podge Collins and his brother have opted to play football only next year. Big change in Clare from this time last year when we were told they could dominate hurling for years to come. Thats a big surprise. The football must be picking up there, but after winning an all Ireland last year in Hurling one would think that would be their main focus. Big loss to Clare hurling.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Sept 8, 2014 12:21:18 GMT
It was just on the radio that Podge Collins and his brother have opted to play football only next year. Big change in Clare from this time last year when we were told they could dominate hurling for years to come. Thats a big surprise. The football must be picking up there, but after winning an all Ireland last year in Hurling one would think that would be their main focus. Big loss to Clare hurling. Perhaps Davy Fitz gave them an ultimatum?
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Post by buck02 on Sept 8, 2014 14:03:47 GMT
Thats a big surprise. The football must be picking up there, but after winning an all Ireland last year in Hurling one would think that would be their main focus. Big loss to Clare hurling. Perhaps Davy Fitz gave them an ultimatum? Yes - no duel players next year backfired badly.
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Post by kerry4life on Sept 8, 2014 14:46:03 GMT
Perhaps Davy Fitz gave them an ultimatum? Yes - no duel players next year backfired badly. I don't know, Clare don't go far in championship so the Duel thing does not really effect a team that plays 2 or 3 games max. Saying that they may have fallen out with the set up, huge loss, Podge won an all star last year and was nominated for hurler of the year, Saying that great news for Clare football and his an outstanding footballer, watch his goal for Cratloe which just proves how good he is www.thescore.ie/podge-collins-cratloe-clare-1595037-Jul2014/
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Post by kerry4life on Sept 8, 2014 14:52:41 GMT
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Post by Jo90 on Sept 8, 2014 14:59:33 GMT
Last time Kerry won the football AI, Kk won the hurling and there was a Tommy Walsh on both teams. This year there's a Paul Murphy on both teams.
BTW, regarding cheaper tickets for AI replays, where do we get the refunds for 2000???
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Post by buck02 on Sept 8, 2014 15:32:33 GMT
Yes - no duel players next year backfired badly. I don't know, Clare don't go far in championship so the Duel thing does not really effect a team that plays 2 or 3 games max. Saying that they may have fallen out with the set up, huge loss, Podge won an all star last year and was nominated for hurler of the year, Saying that great news for Clare football and his an outstanding footballer, watch his goal for Cratloe which just proves how good he is www.thescore.ie/podge-collins-cratloe-clare-1595037-Jul2014/I see the story surfaced on the Indo website early this morning. I also see Podge Collins tweeting a pic of himself and Rachel Wyse in Coppers last night. Maybe Podge had a few pints in him when he met the journalist who broke the story, there could be more this this yet
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Post by givehimaball on Sept 8, 2014 15:55:28 GMT
Thats a big surprise. The football must be picking up there, but after winning an all Ireland last year in Hurling one would think that would be their main focus. Big loss to Clare hurling. Perhaps Davy Fitz gave them an ultimatum? Surely Davey wouldnt be as crazy as giving them an ultimatum with their father over the footballers - they were hardly going to walk away from their father. Also worth remembering that the final result in the Clare game was closer than the Cork or Galway game and that they nearly got a result against Kildare. While it might be a blow to the Clare hurlers, it has to go down as a huge positive for the footballers in terms of getting other lads to join the footballers and having the message out there so early. Having the 2 lads available for the full league campaign will be a bug plus too, if Clare are to push on having a good league campaign is vital.
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Post by givehimaball on Sept 8, 2014 15:56:30 GMT
I see the story surfaced on the Indo website early this morning. I also see Podge Collins tweeting a pic of himself and Rachel Wyse in Coppers last night. Maybe Podge had a few pints in him when he met the journalist who broke the story, there could be more this this yet Forum detective award of the year
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Post by kerry4life on Sept 8, 2014 16:01:40 GMT
I see the story surfaced on the Indo website early this morning. I also see Podge Collins tweeting a pic of himself and Rachel Wyse in Coppers last night. Maybe Podge had a few pints in him when he met the journalist who broke the story, there could be more this this yet Forum detective award of the year Haha he could be holding his head this morning wondering what he said last night.
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Post by Jo90 on Sept 8, 2014 16:28:24 GMT
Maybe he was trying to show to Rachel he wasn't afraid of committing to one
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Post by seamo on Sept 8, 2014 20:48:33 GMT
It was just on the radio that Podge Collins and his brother have opted to play football only next year. Big change in Clare from this time last year when we were told they could dominate hurling for years to come. Thats a big surprise. The football must be picking up there, but after winning an all Ireland last year in Hurling one would think that would be their main focus. Big loss to Clare hurling. Their Dad is the football manager. Their obviously giving him a dig out, they have a love of football; it's not really all that surprising. If Paul Galvin's father had been Kerry hurling manager I'm sure Paul being Paul would have provided his services for a year!
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Post by southward on Sept 8, 2014 21:17:15 GMT
Brilliant, but I'm glad nobody was videoing me down in Limerick.
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