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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 21, 2019 10:38:11 GMT
Bonus territory is... the barman waiting till the gardaí have done their rounds and driven away before he calls you out of the cellar for a last few before home time. Been in bonus territory myself a few times.
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Post by greengold35 on Aug 21, 2019 10:45:21 GMT
Spot on from Darragh - no matter your age, one might never again get the chance to play in a final “ Carpe Diem”!
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Post by Hicser on Aug 21, 2019 22:36:33 GMT
Spot on from Darragh - no matter your age, one might never again get the chance to play in a final “ Carpe Diem”! I donno, seems like one of my ‘intensity posts’, maybe he is saving his detailed analysis till next week,
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Post by kingdomfan1991 on Aug 28, 2019 9:23:24 GMT
Anyone have access to this weeks article?
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 28, 2019 9:27:19 GMT
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CULTURE GAELIC GAMES MY SPORTS Darragh Ó Sé: The heart says Kerry, the head says cop on to yourself In the end, there’s just too much in Dublin’s armoury to foil the five-in-a-row
Darragh Ó Sé about 4 hours ago 3
The Thursday before my last All-Ireland final in 2009, I was walking down the street in Tralee when I ran into the Bomber Liston.
Now, most people know the story when they meet a player the week of a final. It’s a tradition as old as time – you keep the whole thing light, you stay upbeat and optimistic, you don’t talk tickets and you definitely don’t start going into specifics around the game. You wish the player all the best and you go about your day.
Bomber isn’t most people. He wouldn’t be the sort of man who ever worried if the rules applied to him. No sooner had he collared me than he was probing me for the inside track on everything that was happening. How is David Moran going? How is Tommy Walsh getting on? What’ll the team be?
Ah now, Bomber. There’s a time and a place. None of this was doing anything for my sense of calm or perspective. I was 34 years old, three days away from my last All-Ireland final, telling myself I was still well able for it, trying to get into the right mindset to steal one last medal on my way out the door. And here was Bomber, asking me about two young lads who were trying to get into the team – one of whom who was chasing my place!
“Well it’s like this, Bomber,” I said, deciding to have a bit of fun with him.
“As long as the three Sés are in it, they can build the team around us. After that, I don’t really give a flying . . . ”
And I turned and walked away laughing to myself. I heard afterwards that Bomber went straight to Seánie Walsh and told him all about it.
“I wouldn’t mind,” says the Bomber, “the f**ker was serious!”
So the week of a final can be a tricky one for a player. That said, it’s all fairly quiet down here this week. This is the first final Kerry have been in since the calendar was changed so it’s the first time we’re getting to experience an All-Ireland final and the Rose of Tralee in the one week. Tourist season is such a big part of August in Kerry and it takes a bit of getting used to.
Normally, if you were looking forward to a final, you’d have nothing else going on apart from work or school or college or whatever. So maybe that’s why it hasn’t really caught the imagination down here this week the way it has in other years.
David Moran: Kerry will require a huge performance from their key midfielder if they are to prevail. Photograph: Ryan Byrne/Inpho Or maybe it’s because a lot of people are like me in that the heart is saying Kerry can win on Sunday but the head is telling you to cop onto yourself. There’s no point getting lost in fairytales. Dublin are an awesome football team. If you’re any way realistic about it, it’s very hard to see them being beaten.
Related Despite his best efforts, Jim Gavin still the most interesting figure in football Even by Kerry standards, this would be an immortal win Peter Keane braced for meeting with ‘probably the team of the ages’ Both teams had their training weekends and set their stalls out for what they’re going to do. The level of analysis available to both sides here has gone through the roof since I retired. Kick-out strategies, match-ups, likes and dislikes – all of it goes into the mix, down to the finest detail. The days of being surprised by what the other crowd bring to an All-Ireland final are long gone.
Wasted energy I enjoyed those weekends in the run-in to a final – up to a point. Everybody has a sense of being in it together and there’s a good bit of nervous energy around the place. But I wouldn’t say I killed myself in them either. I wouldn’t imagine a lot of the Dubs have either.
The more of these finals you’re in, the more you know what it takes. And by that I mean you know what it takes for you, specifically. It might suit some fellas to be going around at full tilt in a training game a fortnight out from the final. And if it does, good luck to them. But I always saw it as wasted energy.
The one thing I’ve noticed this year with Dublin is that Jim Gavin seems to have settled on a team and more or less stuck with it. In other years the Dubs have chopped and changed, keeping competition for places high all the way through. Maybe that same competition is there this year but, if it is, a lot of the same fellas seem to be winning out.
A final is a place to be borderline reckless in How many places are really and truly up for grabs in the Dublin team? Maybe Philly McMahon or Cian O’Sullivan might be pushing for a place in defence but who would they squeeze out? Michael Darragh Macauley is having a mighty summer in midfield so there’s no room there either. And apart from Dean Rock coming in for Cormac Costello, the attack has been the same in every game that mattered. We all know about the Dubs’ strength in depth but it’s been a very hard team to break into this year.
So although the Dubs went on their weekend down to Cooraclare, I wouldn’t be too sure they were going hammer and tongs at it. I’ve played in Cooraclare and it’s a lovely part of the world. But there’s a fair chance they were playing away there with lads sitting up on the back of tractors watching them as they were taking in silage. Gavin would have been bringing them there for a bit of freshness above all else. Get the city lads out into the country, let them smell the air.
The Dubs know the rhythm of this thing by now. They’re well used to it. I always made sure to put in a good 20-minute spell in a training game on those weekends just to let the management know my head was right and my body was doing what it was told. And then I kept the rest back. No point being a hero 14 days before a final. Especially when you know that the only thing that will keep you off the team is an injury.
All-Ireland finals make you cautious as a player. You carry a fear with you as you build up to them. Not a fear of losing or a fear of playing or anything like that. Just a fear of doing something wrong or thoughtless in the build-up that prevents you being the best you can be on the day. None of that enters into it for other games.
The key then is to lose that caution once the ball is thrown in. I’ve said it before – a final is a place to be borderline reckless in. It’s like that Jerry Seinfeld joke about how people always want extra-strength painkillers and when that’s not enough, they want max-strength. “Figure out what it would take to kill me and then back it up a little bit.”
David Moran: Kerry will require a huge performance from their key midfielder if they are to prevail. Photograph: Ryan Byrne/Inpho That’s nearly how you’ve got to be in an All-Ireland final. Figure out where the line is that will get you either hurt or sent off and then back it up a little bit. You can’t be minding yourself. You have to throw your body into everything. You have to be a bigger version of yourself, faster, sharper, smarter and more ruthless than you’ve ever been. Because the only thing you can be sure of is that the opposition will be aiming for that too.
I’ve been turning this final over in my head constantly and the one thing I keep coming back to on Kerry’s side is that first-half performance Mayo put in against the Dubs. They got a run on Dublin and kept them to six points. Their problem was that they only scored 0-8 of their own. Colm Boyle, Paddy Durcan (two ) and Séamus O’Shea scored half of those points and Cillian O’Connor kicked two frees.
Wet day You would have to think that if Kerry are able to get the same sort of run on Dublin on Sunday, they will find more than two points from play in their forwards. Now, Mayo are a more seasoned team than Kerry, they know how to keep a game against the Dubs tight, they were good with their match-ups and all the rest of it. There’s no guarantee that Kerry will be able to play as well as Mayo did for those 35 minutes. All I’m saying is that if they do, I’d be confident they’ll put up a useful score, including a goal or two.
Weatherwise, I’m afraid the old Jack O’Shea story doesn’t apply here. One year, he woke up the morning of the All-Ireland out in Malahide and the sun was splitting the stones and he said: “Excellent, exactly the weather we need”. The following year, he opened the curtains and it was lashing down rain and Jacko said: “Excellent, exactly the weather we need”.
Kerry might be able to go after Stephen Cluxton the odd time, Dublin will definitely go after Shane Ryan My fear for Kerry is that if it’s a wet day, Dublin are too big and too physical to be denied. Kerry are young and developing and I would think they need a dry ball, first and foremost.
There is definitely a chance it could be all over very quickly. Dublin would love nothing better than to get their business done early. Con O’Callaghan and Paul Mannion will be ravenous for goals and, as we saw against Tyrone last year in the final and Mayo three weeks ago, they don’t need to be asked twice. If they smell blood, they’ll devour Kerry.
The Kerry full-back line doesn’t have the man-markers to hold the likes of O’Callaghan and Mannion for a whole game, especially the way Kerry leave them exposed. So if the game is played on those terms, with ball after ball going into the Dublin full-forward line, Dublin will win pulling up.
The only way Kerry can avoid that is for David Moran to have the game of his life and dominate midfield. There’s some talk down here about Jack Barry coming in and going on Brian Fenton but I’d rather see Moran go and show what he’s made of. It would be a huge call to be dropping Barry in there after a patchy season and David has been around long enough to take on the job himself. Just ask Bomber!
In the end, there’s just too much in the Dublin column here. Kerry can score plenty, Dublin can score plenty more. Kerry might be able to go after Stephen Cluxton the odd time, Dublin will definitely go after Shane Ryan. Kerry’s subs are either unproven or they’re older lads hanging in there and trying to find a bit of form. Dublin’s bench is so strong, Bernard Brogan and Eoghan O’Gara probably won’t make the 26.
My heart says Kerry can do it – and if they do, it’ll be the sweetest one for a long, long time. But my head says it’s five-in-a-row. And a fully deserved one at that.
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Post by kerryexile on Aug 28, 2019 10:07:06 GMT
Darragh is a raconteur of the highest order and would be a great man to have a few points with. He hasn't a clue tactically. It is not cute hoorism. He has put pressure on.
And while I'm at it Darran O'Sullivan is also a nuisance. He is now an ambassador and has to keep himself in the picture and to do this he mouths too much. He has been piling pressure on too.
This has to be contrasted with Barry John Keane, who when asked a typical inane question on Terrace Talk replied by saying that he did not want to put pressure on and gave a very basic reply.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 10:15:04 GMT
I think you are feeling the pressure here!Anything said by Darragh or Darren will be of little consequence to the team who should be in their own bubble completely.
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Post by fbab on Aug 28, 2019 18:14:01 GMT
Good article by Darragh. Brogan might make the panel though.
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Post by shortkickout on Aug 28, 2019 21:36:32 GMT
darren and the two o sé’s in the papers more than Brexit , can’t stay away from it sick of listening to them now , too many recent ex kerry players with their say lately ,it must be brutal for current players having to constantly be reminded of past kerry teams and honors NO PRESSURE LADS !
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 28, 2019 22:03:09 GMT
Enjoyable read from Darragh. Have little interest in Darren to be honest.
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Post by kingdomfan1991 on Aug 29, 2019 6:59:18 GMT
darren and the two o sé’s in the papers more than Brexit , can’t stay away from it sick of listening to them now , too many recent ex kerry players with their say lately ,it must be brutal for current players having to constantly be reminded of past kerry teams and honors NO PRESSURE LADS ! You're dead right. Too many of these ex players with something to say and banging on the same old drum. Tiresome is right, as another poster has suggested. Come down off the stage lads. For any of you guys on twitter, just have a look through some of these ex players profiles and you will see the extent they go to in order to stay relevant. Painful at times.
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Post by patinkerry on Aug 29, 2019 22:11:02 GMT
Darren O Sullivan, the O Se's, Colm, Star, Jacko, Bomber, Micko....if they want to earn a few euros through media work, why shouldn't they, they have played the game on this level, they have lived it, havd the Celtic Crosses; many of us like to hear what they have to say about today's team.
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Post by givehimaball on Aug 30, 2019 14:16:26 GMT
Darren O Sullivan, the O Se's, Colm, Star, Jacko, Bomber, Micko....if they want to earn a few euros through media work, why shouldn't they, they have played the game on this level, they have lived it, havd the Celtic Crosses; many of us like to hear what they have to say about today's team. You'd swear folk were being forced at gun point to listen/read to what these lads are saying.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2019 15:50:30 GMT
The sooner the game happens the better. Looking at some of the postings over the last day or so a few posters are definitely feeling the pressure😂😂😜
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Post by ardfertnarrie on Sept 4, 2019 13:32:26 GMT
Anyone have his column from today?
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 4, 2019 21:12:02 GMT
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We’ll get to Sunday’s game in a small bit but first I want to start with the replay. Specifically, the timing of it, on Saturday night next week. Once again, it shows no respect for players and, in keeping with the rest of the summer, feels like the GAA running off the competition to get it out of the way.
For a start, it will totally overwhelm the women’s final the following day. The Dubs are in both finals so not only will supporters stay away the second day but the whole build-up will be overshadowed. The final is the one day in the sun for women’s football all year and now it’s going to be completely eaten up by the biggest game in Irish sport.
But it’s more than that too. This is going to sound very traditional but Saturday night just doesn’t sit right with me for an All-Ireland final. Saturday nights are for league games and club games and qualifiers. Even Super-8s games and All-Ireland semi-finals at a push. But an All-Ireland final should be the main game of the day, in the middle of the afternoon.
Everyone who ever kicked a ball dreamed of playing in an All-Ireland final and when they did, the floodlights weren’t on I’m talking purely from a player’s perspective here. I know people are talking about long distances and late nights for travelling supporters and all that but that’s not what I’m getting at. A final is a final – nobody who goes worries too much about the trip or what time they get home.
But for a player, a final is sacred.
Everyone who ever kicked a ball dreamed of playing in an All-Ireland final and when they did, the floodlights weren’t on. Floodlights are for winter football. They’re for fitting a game in when time is getting tight. This is the last game of the GAA summer – surely to God it’s not too much to ask that you do the players the courtesy of not making them feel like they’re an inconvenience?
This was already bugging me before I read this from the GAA in the Irish Examiner yesterday. “There were a number of logistical reasons. We are very keen to have it on live television and in discussion with RTÉ there would have been a lot of moving parts, and they would have considerations such as greyhound racing.”
The greyhound racing! You couldn’t make it up. I knew the players came a good bit down the list of priorities in Croke Park but getting pushed around for the sake of the dogs? Even I didn’t think they were that badly thought of. But there you go.
As for the drawn game, a few things have stayed with me since Sunday night. The first was that I was wrong in this column last Wednesday. My feeling was if Kerry got a run on Dublin, they would score a lot more than Mayo had done in their semi-final. As it turned out, they scored exactly the same in the first half, despite having the better of it for long periods and giving themselves plenty of chances.
David Clifford’s shooting was shocking. David Moran and Paul Murphy pulled a couple wide. Paul Geaney could have had two goals – although the one James McCarthy cleared off the line was just good defending with a lot of Dublin bodies back on the line. They went in at half-time with eight points when it could have been closer to 1-11 or 1-12. Bad shooting let Kerry down.
That tells me, above all else, that Kerry have major room for improvement. The idea that Kerry’s chance is gone doesn’t make sense. If they had done everything to the maximum, if they had taken all their chances and still only managed a draw, then you’d say it was more than likely gone alright. But that’s not the case.
Deep end The Dubs will improve, we know that. But since some of Kerry’s better players all year – Clifford, Geaney, Stephen O’Brien – weren’t able to contribute as much to the scoreboard as usual, we know Kerry can improve as well.
On top of that, you have a rake of young Kerry players who’ve got their first final over them and who know they play at that level now. No matter how confident a lad such as Gavin Crowley would have been coming in there, he must have wondered was he up to it. Same with Seán O’Shea, Jack Barry, Killian Spillane, all these fellas.
That’s over and done with now. Kerry had 15 different players, including subs, playing in their first All-Ireland final. They know now that it’s the same pitch, the same goalposts, the same size ball, the same everything as it’s always been. The mystique around it has gone. They dived into the deep end and they were able to swim. Now they can concentrate on swimming better.
Seán O’Shea: one of the many talented young Kerry players who now have the vital experience of playing in an All-Ireland final. Photograph: Morgan Treacy/Inpho Years ago, we had a fella in with Kerry who used talk to us about green platforms and red platforms. It wasn’t really my scene so I didn’t have a whole pile to do with it but some of the lads did and good luck to them. I presume the green platform meant go and the red platform meant stop.
Anyway, when the Kerry team landed back down to Killarney on the train on Monday, wouldn’t that platform have felt good and green to them? Everything in them now must be saying go. Go get it. Go train for the next fortnight. Go improve. Go and bring everything you have the next day. Nobody will wonder for a second if they left it behind them. It won’t come into it.
On the Dublin side, it was another game where I came away nearly in awe of Stephen Cluxton. I honestly think he’s still underrated by people. People talk about what a brilliant player Brian Fenton is – and he is – but he’d tell you himself that it does him no harm to have Cluxton as the man supplying him with ball. More than a decade ago, Cluxton made an All Star out of Shane Ryan. It’s incredible that he’s still making heroes out of fellas at 37 years old.
Fenton showed he’s only flesh and bone just like everybody else. He wasn’t getting into the game on Sunday except when Cluxton was putting it on a plate for him. Flip it around and David Moran had a great game working with an inexperienced goalkeeper at the other end. That’s something to keep an eye on in the replay.
Cluxton has nerves of steel, all the same. Jack Barry took two huge catches off him in the middle of the first half on Sunday. The whole of the Kerry team was pushing up, the Kerry crowd were smelling blood. Cluxton didn’t sweat it. He just pinged a kick-out to Brian Howard, landing perfectly on Howard’s chest over by the Hogan Stand sideline. All it took from there was a kick pass by Howard in to Paul Mannion and Mannion did the rest.
Three minutes later, Kerry were still going full-bore for him. They pushed everyone forward for the kick-out that came after the free where Jonny Cooper got his first booking. You could see it in the ground – they had so many players pushed forward that the goalie Shane Ryan was marking Con O’Callaghan and Mannion.
Cluxton still went for the ballsiest kick-out, putting it up for Howard to catch on the sideline. It was a phenomenal catch – and it was naive of Kerry not to realise how exposed they were and bottle him up, mark or no mark. If the situation was reversed there, the Dubs wouldn’t think twice about giving up the extra 13 metres to buy themselves an extra few seconds.
Hollywood score Instead, Howard clipped the ball to Ciarán Kilkenny and a few seconds later Jack McCaffrey had the ball in the net. So Cluxton went from having two kick-outs picked off in a row by Barry to his next two going for 1-1 into the Hill. He’s some operator.
The job for the Dubs now is reflection. Fenton, Jonny Cooper, Michael Darragh Macauley, Mannion, Kilkenny, even O’Callaghan. None of them did the damage they usually do. They’re going to spend a lot of time between now and then promising themselves they won’t be as bad again.
Diarmuid Connolly reacts after missing the target with his speculative long-range effort late in the All-Ireland final. Photograph: Tommy Dickson/Inpho We drew with Galway in the 2000 All-Ireland in a game where I had put in a fairly average performance. In those days, the two teams still met up for a lunch the following day – even after a draw! I remember thinking I didn’t want any piece of that so I made some excuse about having to be back at work and headed down the road with my father on the Monday.
For the next week, I watched the video of the game over and over and over again. I watched every little thing I did in the game and asked myself why. Be it good or bad, I went through every ball and wondered what I could have done better. By the time the replay came around, I was annoyed with myself and I wasn’t in any mood to allow it to happen again.
I would imagine there’ll be a lot of anger around the Dublin set-up now. Players annoyed with themselves, annoyed with each other. Some of the shots they were taking on Sunday were very unlike them. John Small shanked one into the crowd in the first half. Paddy Small dropped the one short that led to the Kerry goal. Outside of Mannion the odd time, Dublin players haven’t been taking those potshots on for the past few years.
Most jarring of all was Diarmuid Connolly’s one from outside the 45. That’s the sort of score Dublin used to take on in 2014 and 2015, back when Connolly and Paul Flynn were their main men. Dublin never shoot from outside the 45 in open play anymore. They work the ball over and back and up and down until they make a chance that’s harder to miss than to score. Yet there was Connolly, in injury-time in an All-Ireland final, going for the Hollywood score.
Dublin are going to spend the whole fortnight cranky at themselves I’m not saying he was wrong to do it – no better man in the country to take it on. I just wonder how it would have gone down in the Dublin camp. Jim Gavin is big on the collective and the esprit de corps and all that stuff. How does it go down with the collective that a fella who could just as easily be in Boston is breaking from the game plan and doing his own thing when everything is on the line?
Anger isn’t a bad thing, by the way. The Dubs are around each other long enough at this stage not to be worrying about hurting each other’s feelings. If they use it the right way and face up to everything honestly, it could easily be the thing that drives them to winning the replay.
As a Kerryman, that’s the worry. Not that Kerry left it behind them on Sunday. More that Dublin are going to spend the whole fortnight cranky at themselves that they did.
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 4, 2019 21:14:26 GMT
Many good points in that by Darragh this week.
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Post by augustafield on Sept 4, 2019 23:02:34 GMT
The replay should be scheduled for 3.30 pm on a Sunday afternoon . If the Ladies final is on the 8th what’s the problem with the15th ?
The All Ireland finals , bar nothing else , are the biggest sporting occasions of the year , and downgrading it to 6 pm on a Saturday night to facilitate RTE in showing the Greyhound Derby is a disgrace.
Where is the consideration to the travelling support from Kerry ? If it doesn’t mean on overnight stay in Dublin it means a return trek of 400 plus miles depending on your home location .
Amazed that Kerry County Board are silent on the time , location and travelling issues .
What’s wrong with Thurles as a fair mid point location if Pairc Ui Caoimh is not playable ? And that location would facilitate a Sunday replay . Croke Park is fine but not at 6 pm for a Kerry crowd.
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Post by skybluezone on Sept 5, 2019 3:03:09 GMT
Many good points in that by Darragh this week. But amazingly, no reference to Dublin playing with 14 for over half the game. Go figure.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Sept 5, 2019 6:03:50 GMT
Greyhound racing .. women’s football .. almost as uneventful as the feckin popes visit , stick the final on the Sunday after the ladies final sure theyl only be about 75,000 spare seats at it anyway There were 46K at the 2017 women's final.
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Post by shortkickout on Sept 5, 2019 6:34:56 GMT
Ok sorry so 35,000 empty seats , there’s something depressing about watching any game with so many spare seats , club finals the same , even the minor games before the place fills , the echo wud kill . The bare hill concrete . It’s horrible
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Post by ballhopper34 on Sept 5, 2019 6:39:26 GMT
It's likely not clashing with Man United at 4pm was taken into account as well.
Wonder did anyone suggest Friday night at 8pm?
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Post by glengael on Sept 5, 2019 8:51:51 GMT
The replay should be scheduled for 3.30 pm on a Sunday afternoon . If the Ladies final is on the 8th what’s the problem with the15th ? The All Ireland finals , bar nothing else , are the biggest sporting occasions of the year , and downgrading it to 6 pm on a Saturday night to facilitate RTE in showing the Greyhound Derby is a disgrace. Where is the consideration to the travelling support from Kerry ? If it doesn’t mean on overnight stay in Dublin it means a return trek of 400 plus miles depending on your home location . Amazed that Kerry County Board are silent on the time , location and travelling issues . What’s wrong with Thurles as a fair mid point location if Pairc Ui Caoimh is not playable ? And that location would facilitate a Sunday replay . Croke Park is fine but not at 6 pm for a Kerry crowd. Not surprised with the silence from the Kerry County Board. They do not seem to have any influence on what the Croke Park GAA decide so are probably saving their breath.
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Post by fg on Sept 5, 2019 9:59:39 GMT
Many good points in that by Darragh this week. But amazingly, no reference to Dublin playing with 14 for over half the game. Go figure. Go figure what If you want your little piques soothed may I suggest you go some where else to go figure it out
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Post by jackiel on Sept 5, 2019 10:04:46 GMT
The replay should be scheduled for 3.30 pm on a Sunday afternoon . If the Ladies final is on the 8th what’s the problem with the15th ? The All Ireland finals , bar nothing else , are the biggest sporting occasions of the year , and downgrading it to 6 pm on a Saturday night to facilitate RTE in showing the Greyhound Derby is a disgrace. Where is the consideration to the travelling support from Kerry ? If it doesn’t mean on overnight stay in Dublin it means a return trek of 400 plus miles depending on your home location . Amazed that Kerry County Board are silent on the time , location and travelling issues . What’s wrong with Thurles as a fair mid point location if Pairc Ui Caoimh is not playable ? And that location would facilitate a Sunday replay . Croke Park is fine but not at 6 pm for a Kerry crowd. Camogie Finals on 8th, Ladies on 15th. There was uproar a few years ago when the Ladies Finals were pushed back a week to accommodate a replay.
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Post by dc84 on Sept 5, 2019 10:19:52 GMT
The replay should be scheduled for 3.30 pm on a Sunday afternoon . If the Ladies final is on the 8th what’s the problem with the15th ? The All Ireland finals , bar nothing else , are the biggest sporting occasions of the year , and downgrading it to 6 pm on a Saturday night to facilitate RTE in showing the Greyhound Derby is a disgrace. Where is the consideration to the travelling support from Kerry ? If it doesn’t mean on overnight stay in Dublin it means a return trek of 400 plus miles depending on your home location . Amazed that Kerry County Board are silent on the time , location and travelling issues . What’s wrong with Thurles as a fair mid point location if Pairc Ui Caoimh is not playable ? And that location would facilitate a Sunday replay . Croke Park is fine but not at 6 pm for a Kerry crowd. Not surprised with the silence from the Kerry County Board. They do not seem to have any influence on what the Croke Park GAA decide so are probably saving their breath. They probably did but in the right manner ie not publicly. We had enough crap about the ref prior to the first day. I'm doing my bit anyway I've 7 people from home staying with me, if I can clean out the shed and find a tent that could double by next week! The neighbour (army man) said he felt under siege there was that many kerry lads around!
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Post by Derek on Sept 5, 2019 13:01:48 GMT
Not surprised with the silence from the Kerry County Board. They do not seem to have any influence on what the Croke Park GAA decide so are probably saving their breath. They probably did but in the right manner ie not publicly. We had enough crap about the ref prior to the first day. I'm doing my bit anyway I've 7 people from home staying with me, if I can clean out the shed and find a tent that could double by next week! The neighbour (army man) said he felt under siege there was that many kerry lads around! Have a read of the Kerry's Eye this week, Tim Murphy made contact with the GAA and the CCC to have the time moved to an earlier time to facilitate the travelling Kerry fans. They didn't change it so no fault of the County Board here.
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Post by skybluezone on Sept 5, 2019 13:07:48 GMT
But amazingly, no reference to Dublin playing with 14 for over half the game. Go figure. Go figure what If you want your little piques soothed may I suggest you go some where else to go figure it out Listen it's fine by me if Kerry supporters like you want to basically pretend the sending off never happened, in order to add weight to what nearly everyone agrees was a fine Kerry performance. Me included. And as a result the levels of expectation in Kerry will go up for next week. Good on you. It's also fine for me to think it hugely impacted the game and even though Dublin missed a few down the stretch I was very happy to leave the stadium thinking we'll win the next day. And handy enough too. But like you, I'm just a supporter. Darragh on the other hand is writing for The Irish Times, aka the Paper of Record. But it seems Darragh forgot to record the sending off. Fans would have been interested in what he had to say, and would have expected a balanced view at that. Instead he stuck his head up his arse and said Kerry will be even better the next day. Oh and Cluxton is a genius. Anyway we all knew that. And the only pique I know of is Gerard Pique. So there!
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 5, 2019 13:29:41 GMT
Darraghs piece is more about preparing for a replay that analyising the drawn game.
Thats what made it interesting.
Maybe SBZ missed that nuance
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