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Post by Mickmack on Jun 21, 2017 9:38:42 GMT
Was that the year he didnt start jack savage even though corks main focus in the build up was on how jacks effectiveness could be contained!
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Post by kerryexile on Jun 21, 2017 14:39:26 GMT
The past u21 teams are in the Munster GAA website. If you check, it is obvious who he is talking about.
Should Darragh have a bit more discretion?
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Post by glengael on Jun 21, 2017 14:55:54 GMT
Well I suppose if it's that obvious, anyone who was at that match or who chatted to someone who attended that match might know the identity of the player in question anyway.
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 21, 2017 15:04:43 GMT
Should Darragh have a bit more discretion? Yes, would be my view. If its a hook to get people talking about his articles, its a poor show.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2017 16:05:50 GMT
Yes, all a bit self serving from darragh.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jun 21, 2017 16:13:33 GMT
I'm still unsure as to who he is referring to- I see savage got a black card so I doubt it's him that he is talking about.
I like Darragh as both a player and a pundit but he was a poor manager and this adds to why
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Post by caseycasey on Jun 21, 2017 16:32:42 GMT
dont think he was referring to Jack Savage. He wasn't a star player at the time. Could be Conor Keane, the lad was gifted at the time.Daragh had him in the panel as a 17 year old in Daraghs first year as 21 manager.
The Sheas were great players but personally their columns are cat, no insight into the modern game. Just a catalogue of old yarns from their own days. 85% of their articles had a story or reference thrown in about Paidi. It's a bit tiring
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2017 21:12:14 GMT
dont think he was referring to Jack Savage. He wasn't a star player at the time. Could be Conor Keane, the lad was gifted at the time.Daragh had him in the panel as a 17 year old in Daraghs first year as 21 manager. The Sheas were great players but personally their columns are cat, no insight into the modern game. Just a catalogue of old yarns from their own days. 85% of their articles had a story or reference thrown in about Paidi. It's a bit tiring Would prefer not to name the player but seems darragh blames him for missing chances that cost Kerry victory. I think having the three of them in the media is too much. I do think they offer some interesting insights but ultimately they are a bit too similar.
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Post by boots on Jun 21, 2017 22:12:51 GMT
Everyone knows exactly who darragh is referring to here. A young lad from north kerry who had a poor game the same night. Personally, while I will forever admire darragh for the great player he was, I can't stomach 'his' articles any longer. Has there been a week yet where he or Tomás, and most weeks both, tell some yarn about Paidi. There is a shelf life to that kind of thing. And I find this week's cut off a young lad that he did a terrible job of managing / coaching is completely unnecessary. Poor form by darragh.
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Post by beantownfan on Jun 22, 2017 3:18:43 GMT
Darragh's number one priority is Darragh, always has been... This is pretty poor form, especially when his managerial career was pretty much a non starter.. I don't doubt for a minute that he tried as hard as the next guy, but at the end of the day he had a very poor record. Like everything in life, some fellas have it, some don't. If he had won a bunch of games and lost just this one, it would be slightly less awkward, but he is almost Cork-esque in his scapegoating of someone else for the team's shortfall.. I used to enjoy his articles at the start, but there is definitely a certain amount of repetition creeping in at this stage..
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Post by Jo90 on Jun 22, 2017 8:00:37 GMT
Darragh's number one priority is Darragh, always has been... This is pretty poor form, especially when his managerial career was pretty much a non starter.. I don't doubt for a minute that he tried as hard as the next guy, but at the end of the day he had a very poor record. Like everything in life, some fellas have it, some don't. If he had won a bunch of games and lost just this one, it would be slightly less awkward, but he is almost Cork-esque in his scapegoating of someone else for the team's shortfall.. I used to enjoy his articles at the start, but there is definitely a certain amount of repetition creeping in at this stage.. There's a bit of repetition this week alright, Darragh must have been sponsored by Bus Eireann... - "sat up the front of the bus on the way home from a game" - "I would find myself on the bus going to games" - "Sitting up the front of the bus, the manager is in the exact opposite position" - "But when he’s on the bus on the way to the game, it’s out of his hands"
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Post by buck02 on Jun 22, 2017 8:11:44 GMT
I thought Darragh's book was terrible because everybody he played with or against was a grand fella. There was no insight whatsoever into teams he played with or against. No juicy details.
He has got a bit of slack here for what he said yesterday and I definitely remember criticising Darragh for picking out Kealy and Moran for the 2011 and 2013 defeats to Dublin in his Irish Times articles.
We cant have it both ways I suppose.
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Post by buck02 on Jun 22, 2017 8:12:45 GMT
By the way, does Marc write for a paper too?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2017 8:35:50 GMT
If the "Irish" mail on Sunday counts, then he does.
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Post by glengael on Jun 22, 2017 9:07:48 GMT
If the "Irish" mail on Sunday counts, then he does. Wouldn't count as much of a paper in my house to be honest for non-sport reasons if nothing else.. Ps. I may have said it before but I interpreted some of that 2011 criticism as being directed at more senior members of the Kerry defence who he felt should have guided Kealy. Kealy was, after all, playing in his first AI Final while some of them had been playing in Finals for over a decade by then.
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Post by buck02 on Jun 22, 2017 9:14:22 GMT
If the "Irish" mail on Sunday counts, then he does. Oh God. I didnt think the Mail readers would be Gaelic Football fans.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2017 9:16:22 GMT
Can't say I have ever bought the paper but I guess the brothers have left him with little choice.
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 22, 2017 21:33:06 GMT
I presume this article is Darragh signing off from management?
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Post by fitz on Jun 23, 2017 12:36:49 GMT
I thought Darragh's book was terrible because everybody he played with or against was a grand fella. There was no insight whatsoever into teams he played with or against. No juicy details. He has got a bit of slack here for what he said yesterday and I definitely remember criticising Darragh for picking out Kealy and Moran for the 2011 and 2013 defeats to Dublin in his Irish Times articles. We cant have it both ways I suppose. Twas terrible, we've been over it here a few times now at this stage. It could have been a great book. I reckon it had significant role in Ewan McKenna's decision to move to and stay in Brazil, it affected him that badly
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Post by givehimaball on Jun 26, 2017 14:27:25 GMT
Twas terrible, we've been over it here a few times now at this stage. It could have been a great book. I reckon it had significant role in Ewan McKenna's decision to move to and stay in Brazil, it affected him that badly So at least there were some positive to it
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Post by glengael on Jun 28, 2017 11:08:50 GMT
Possibly the only person who could have written the definitive Darragh book wasn't available for reasons which are now apparent.
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Post by kot on Jun 28, 2017 12:20:52 GMT
Possibly the only person who could have written the definitive Darragh book wasn't available for reasons which are now apparent.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 28, 2017 13:48:10 GMT
I don't get it.
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Post by glengael on Jun 28, 2017 13:53:14 GMT
A glance at yesterday's newspapers may give you a hint.
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Post by Jo90 on Jul 4, 2017 8:45:22 GMT
Darragh had a Michael Fish moment with his prediction of a 2 point win for Cork and I think it will hang round his neck like a noose. It'll be interesting to see how he accounts for it this week.
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Post by buck02 on Jul 4, 2017 11:37:18 GMT
Darragh had a Michael Fish moment with his prediction of a 2 point win for Cork and I think it will hang round his neck like a noose. It'll be interesting to see how he accounts for it this week. Darragh wasnt the only one talking through their backsides about this game, giving Cork a chance when there was absolutely no basis for it.
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Post by fitz on Jul 4, 2017 14:42:16 GMT
ah he was taking the complete pish lads, and will be the water off a duck's back re: the imminent abuse. I'd say he used as a little jab for our lads, else as my bro-in-law referenced "he's just completely dim".
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Post by fitz on Jul 4, 2017 14:48:49 GMT
Darragh had a Michael Fish moment with his prediction of a 2 point win for Cork and I think it will hang round his neck like a noose. It'll be interesting to see how he accounts for it this week. Darragh wasnt the only one talking through their backsides about this game, giving Cork a chance when there was absolutely no basis for it. Would any Cork player get on the Kerry team? The young lad Sean Powter stood out, Kerrigan is decent and Ian Maguire gave David plenty of it, left half Clancy was ok. No standouts mind
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jul 4, 2017 15:37:58 GMT
Powter wouldnt get away with even 10% of the pulling and dragging if he was playing in a competitive team- refs let the underdogs/losing team away with that nonsense as an equaliser but he'd be yellow carded within 10 mins if he was playing for a dominant side.
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Post by fitz on Jul 4, 2017 16:56:27 GMT
Powter wouldnt get away with even 10% of the pulling and dragging if he was playing in a competitive team- refs let the underdogs/losing team away with that nonsense as an equaliser but he'd be yellow carded within 10 mins if he was playing for a dominant side. Likely true - but he also likely wouldn't have to resort to much of it then either.
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