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Post by seamo on Jun 10, 2014 20:17:05 GMT
Is your problem with pitch invasions being stopped, or that they are being stopped because Sky asked for it? The latter. If CLG are trying to stop pitch invasions -at least, on Saturday night- then habeas corpus. The evidence we have to date is the announcement. The rest is speculation. This announcement is the only documented difference between the pitch access after Corcaigh-Port Láirge (no TV coverage) or Tiobraid Árainn-Luimneach (RTÉ coverage), and the access after Saturday's game. My exhortations to read the letter were directed more at those who were either failing or refusing to address this. I was at a double header of football and hurling league games in Loch Garman in April. Between the two games, during the half time break, and at full time, tens of boys and girls of ages about 5-16 scampered out with camáin and sliotair and pucked about in small lines and triangles. I'm sorry nobody addressed this issue, but instead chose to focus on the "immature fools" who so disturb the post-match interviews. (It's a matter of opinion, but I can't imagine many things less interesting and original than a player's post-match interview). It's rather baffling, as anyone who reads the letter can see no citation of this element.I don't think we see it as much as the strong hurling counties, but as you can read, this is exactly what the letter-writer had in mind for his son. And these kids (this is an assumption, granted) are not motivated by standing in camera shot, at least not as much as they are to experience their county's hallowed sod beneath their own feet, for just a few minutes, before the car journey home, so they might have something to hold against the harshness of Sunday night facing into a school week. And there it is- that sense of ownership; connected by these tangible and visible threads to even the greatest county player; the sense of Cumann Luthchleas Gael being the members, being instilled at such a young age in another generation. Semple is for EVERYONE. Maybe we don't experience it as much in Ciarrai because of caid's pre-dominance. Focal scoir: Re postmatch interviews I'm with annascaultilidie![/quote] ****** lol You picked out the tiniest minority to make your case? As if banning/blocking pitch invasions is an attack on the innosense of youth. I'm not totally against pitch invasions, but I do see the merits in banning it. And it's more often then not that it's some over excited middle aged eejit who is disturbing a post match interview, rather than an innocent 9 year old who simply wants an autograph from their hero. We have to remember aswell that Sky come from a different sporting culture. Fans invade a pitch in England and it means serious trouble, riots. We know that's not the case here, but they likely have procedures in place to protect their employee's, they have to be diligent. Maybe it's the case that the GAA weren't firm on this, and didn't do enough to reassure Sky about the differences between Irish and English sports goers......but I suspect the GAA were all do happy to ban the pitch invasion and blame it on Sky!
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Post by diego on Jun 10, 2014 21:03:38 GMT
I wouldn't have too strong an opinion on it, but my own view would be that if a gang of kids want to go for a puck about or a kick about then I don't think out on the field at Nowlan Park or Fitzgerald Stadium on the day of a big intercounty game is the right time and place for it.
When I was that age I was happy enough to see John Cronin or Maurice Fitz stick a ball in the Cork net and savour the victory in the terrace.
I didn't have to beg the old man to leave me out on the pitch to kick a few points to make it any better!
On the issue of Sky dictating matters so that we become a bit more sanitised like the Premier League, I share your concern there.
What next, some guy backstage muting the sound effects mic just as Davy Fitz starts a foul mouthed rant at the linesman. Not having that.
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Post by ansúilleabhánach on Jun 10, 2014 21:29:36 GMT
Is your problem with pitch invasions being stopped, or that they are being stopped because Sky asked for it? The latter. If CLG are trying to stop pitch invasions -at least, on Saturday night- then habeas corpus. The evidence we have to date is the announcement. The rest is speculation. This announcement is the only documented difference between the pitch access after Corcaigh-Port Láirge (no TV coverage) or Tiobraid Árainn-Luimneach (RTÉ coverage), and the access after Saturday's game. My exhortations to read the letter were directed more at those who were either failing or refusing to address this. I was at a double header of football and hurling league games in Loch Garman in April. Between the two games, during the half time break, and at full time, tens of boys and girls of ages about 5-16 scampered out with camáin and sliotair and pucked about in small lines and triangles. I'm sorry nobody addressed this issue, but instead chose to focus on the "immature fools" who so disturb the post-match interviews. (It's a matter of opinion, but I can't imagine many things less interesting and original than a player's post-match interview). It's rather baffling, as anyone who reads the letter can see no citation of this element.I don't think we see it as much as the strong hurling counties, but as you can read, this is exactly what the letter-writer had in mind for his son. And these kids (this is an assumption, granted) are not motivated by standing in camera shot, at least not as much as they are to experience their county's hallowed sod beneath their own feet, for just a few minutes, before the car journey home, so they might have something to hold against the harshness of Sunday night facing into a school week. And there it is- that sense of ownership; connected by these tangible and visible threads to even the greatest county player; the sense of Cumann Luthchleas Gael being the members, being instilled at such a young age in another generation. Semple is for EVERYONE. Maybe we don't experience it as much in Ciarrai because of caid's pre-dominance. Focal scoir: Re postmatch interviews I'm with annascaultilidie! ****** lol You picked out the tiniest minority to make your case? As if banning/blocking pitch invasions is an attack on the innosense of youth. I'm not totally against pitch invasions, but I do see the merits in banning it. And it's more often then not that it's some over excited middle aged eejit who is disturbing a post match interview, rather than an innocent 9 year old who simply wants an autograph from their hero. We have to remember aswell that Sky come from a different sporting culture. Fans invade a pitch in England and it means serious trouble, riots. We know that's not the case here, but they likely have procedures in place to protect their employee's, they have to be diligent. Maybe it's the case that the GAA weren't firm on this, and didn't do enough to reassure Sky about the differences between Irish and English sports goers......but I suspect the GAA were all do happy to ban the pitch invasion and blame it on Sky![/quote] Aye, that may be, but no-one had mentioned the kids' puckaround, had they? Only examples of pitch invaders completely contrary to its spirit. I don't really understand what the "tiniest minority" you mean is, but my paragraph is in response to the feedback on this thread from the letter. But I think we're singing from a similiar hymnsheet- in particular I think your last statement, albeit cynical, is no less perceptive for that! The word 'invasion' rather than 'access' would be the difference, I suppose. I have my own reservations about invasions. The calm orderly filing out from the stand of the children for pucking about in Loch Garman (and back in again) was done with not a camera to be seen. But it was also the case in Durlas Eile the last few Sundays, when there was live coverage, so it's the consistency thing that drives me bananas...
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Jun 11, 2014 9:35:58 GMT
Well actually I spoke about one of the positive/good aspects of after-match pitch invasions, and generally questioned why people would have such a negative view of people having a bit of fun.
I will go on to expand that this is during what tends to be, quite clearly, an interview that the broadcaster and those involved clearly treat as no more than "a bit of fun", a tradition as it were, to show the excitement and sense of involvement and down-to-earthness if you like after a big gaelic game.
Perhaps I take too much for granted at times, I took it as read, and didn't want to state the obvious as I saw it, that everyone agrees it is a great thing for kids top puck or kick or run around a bit on pitches at half-time and after games. Clearly that's not the case? I don't understand that attitude.
I don't agree that the GAC using "safety/insurance" as a wedge to get people off the pitch (whether that be justified or not) is a red-herring notion. I presume by this stage somebody has been asked/has said something, I mean somebody involved in the process at the ground. ALl we have to go on is that they anounced it was for Sky, therefore we have to assume it's a Sky requirement.
The way I was thinking though, between the lines, is why the GAC/Grounds admin would agree to that/accept that. Did they contest it, and if they didn't, or didn't contest it much, then what does that say? I suppose we need to hear from people who are involved.
Finally back on the subject of Croker being a "no-invasion zone". I take it that's also the case even at much less-attended games. In that event, how come it's not the same at all grounds, no matter the attendance?
It's my belief firstly that they have decided, given that Croker is used for other events, and that they are looking for big events down the line, that they don't want anything to happen that will make bad publicity and cause insurance difficulties. Yet I'm sure it's naive of me, why would it just be Croker? Other grounds are used for other events also, and are earmarked for possible other sporting events down the line.
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Post by seamo on Jun 11, 2014 10:46:04 GMT
The latter. If CLG are trying to stop pitch invasions -at least, on Saturday night- then habeas corpus. The evidence we have to date is the announcement. The rest is speculation. This announcement is the only documented difference between the pitch access after Corcaigh-Port Láirge (no TV coverage) or Tiobraid Árainn-Luimneach (RTÉ coverage), and the access after Saturday's game. My exhortations to read the letter were directed more at those who were either failing or refusing to address this. I was at a double header of football and hurling league games in Loch Garman in April. Between the two games, during the half time break, and at full time, tens of boys and girls of ages about 5-16 scampered out with camáin and sliotair and pucked about in small lines and triangles. I'm sorry nobody addressed this issue, but instead chose to focus on the "immature fools" who so disturb the post-match interviews. (It's a matter of opinion, but I can't imagine many things less interesting and original than a player's post-match interview). It's rather baffling, as anyone who reads the letter can see no citation of this element.I don't think we see it as much as the strong hurling counties, but as you can read, this is exactly what the letter-writer had in mind for his son. And these kids (this is an assumption, granted) are not motivated by standing in camera shot, at least not as much as they are to experience their county's hallowed sod beneath their own feet, for just a few minutes, before the car journey home, so they might have something to hold against the harshness of Sunday night facing into a school week. And there it is- that sense of ownership; connected by these tangible and visible threads to even the greatest county player; the sense of Cumann Luthchleas Gael being the members, being instilled at such a young age in another generation. Semple is for EVERYONE. Maybe we don't experience it as much in Ciarrai because of caid's pre-dominance. Focal scoir: Re postmatch interviews I'm with annascaultilidie! ****** lol You picked out the tiniest minority to make your case? As if banning/blocking pitch invasions is an attack on the innosense of youth. I'm not totally against pitch invasions, but I do see the merits in banning it. And it's more often then not that it's some over excited middle aged eejit who is disturbing a post match interview, rather than an innocent 9 year old who simply wants an autograph from their hero. We have to remember aswell that Sky come from a different sporting culture. Fans invade a pitch in England and it means serious trouble, riots. We know that's not the case here, but they likely have procedures in place to protect their employee's, they have to be diligent. Maybe it's the case that the GAA weren't firm on this, and didn't do enough to reassure Sky about the differences between Irish and English sports goers......but I suspect the GAA were all do happy to ban the pitch invasion and blame it on Sky!Aye, that may be, but no-one had mentioned the kids' puckaround, had they? Only examples of pitch invaders completely contrary to its spirit. I don't really understand what the "tiniest minority" you mean is, but my paragraph is in response to the feedback on this thread from the letter. But I think we're singing from a similiar hymnsheet- in particular I think your last statement, albeit cynical, is no less perceptive for that! The word 'invasion' rather than 'access' would be the difference, I suppose. I have my own reservations about invasions. The calm orderly filing out from the stand of the children for pucking about in Loch Garman (and back in again) was done with not a camera to be seen. But it was also the case in Durlas Eile the last few Sundays, when there was live coverage, so it's the consistency thing that drives me bananas... [/quote] I'm fine with the primary school games being played at half time. If kids want to wait around until after warm-downs are done post match, then let them on for a kick-about. But the issue in regards to Sky was people disrupting post match interviews on the pitch.
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Post by ansúilleabhánach on Jun 11, 2014 12:04:45 GMT
But the issue in regards to Sky was people disrupting post match interviews on the pitch. But this wasn't an issue with RTÉ, TV3, TG4 or Setanta. Why should another television channel get preferential treatment?
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Post by seamo on Jun 11, 2014 12:40:52 GMT
But the issue in regards to Sky was people disrupting post match interviews on the pitch. But this wasn't an issue with RTÉ, TV3, TG4 or Setanta. Why should another television channel get preferential treatment? Yeah I said that two posts previous. Sky come from a culture whereby it's not acceptable for fans to enter the playing area. Look at English soccer's history with crowd trouble. Sky are a huge organization who likely have many policies and practices in place in order to protect their employees, along with insurance costs. <<< Yes of course we know as GAA fans that their is little reason to worry about that kind of stuff here, but again Sky are billion pound company with strict policies in place, it's a health and safety/insurance issue. Sky have to think like a business, it's the GAA who should have done more to reassure Sky and continue this tradition...but it's likely the GAA were thinking business rather than tradition when that came up in the negotiations! lol
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Post by ansúilleabhánach on Jun 11, 2014 13:16:06 GMT
Yep, a sad indictment of either CLG's lack of backbone, or that they don't care. Sky, as you say, come from a culture where it's not acceptable- and now they're entering a culture where it is. And they're going to change that culture, eradicate it so it's indistinguishable, and we're going to let them.
Policies and practices, insurance costs, thinking like a business be damned- all corporations take those into account, even TV3. Not excuses.
Yea it's Cumann Luthchleas Gael who are letting it happen. Jeez normally I'm as cynical as can be, but it still depresses me...
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 11, 2014 22:46:12 GMT
The spectacle that unfolds at half time in Parnell Park when Dublin play a hurling game is brilliant. Its like an infestation of ants with hurleys.. kids of all ages and clearly its only good for promotion of the game.
I favoured the ban on pitch invasions for the simple reason that the players wanted the ban, One awful consequence though is that RTE cant resist focussing in on some heartbroken player on the losing side. They did it to Colm in 2011. That sort of voyeuristic cheap television should stop too.
Its been evident to me for some time that the GAA stands for nothing any more other than making money. I didn't see much wrong with a few flunkies sticking their heads into the camera while a player was being interviewed..what harm, where is the victim...shur the interviews are usually so bland that the antics of the fans provide a bit of an distraction.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jun 12, 2014 1:15:48 GMT
The spectacle that unfolds at half time in Parnell Park when Dublin play a hurling game is brilliant. Its like an infestation of ants with hurleys.. kids of all ages and clearly its only good for promotion of the game. I favoured the ban on pitch invasions for the simple reason that the players wanted the ban, One awful consequence though is that RTE cant resist focussing in on some heartbroken player on the losing side. They did it to Colm in 2011. That sort of voyeuristic cheap television should stop too. Its been evident to me for some time that the GAA stands for nothing any more other than making money. I didn't see much wrong with a few flunkies sticking their heads into the camera while a player was being interviewed..what harm, where is the victim...shur the interviews are usually so bland that the antics of the fans provide a bit of an distraction. I'd agree with you mick, such a sight those ants, deprivation of which makes the heart bleed. And yes, a few giggles is good for the soul. I think this Sky thing has a silver lining, of pockets! I suppose the reality is that commercial interests can influence officials and so how fringe affairs evolve.
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 12, 2014 21:09:46 GMT
The spectacle that unfolds at half time in Parnell Park when Dublin play a hurling game is brilliant. Its like an infestation of ants with hurleys.. kids of all ages and clearly its only good for promotion of the game. I favoured the ban on pitch invasions for the simple reason that the players wanted the ban, One awful consequence though is that RTE cant resist focussing in on some heartbroken player on the losing side. They did it to Colm in 2011. That sort of voyeuristic cheap television should stop too. Its been evident to me for some time that the GAA stands for nothing any more other than making money. I didn't see much wrong with a few flunkies sticking their heads into the camera while a player was being interviewed..what harm, where is the victim...shur the interviews are usually so bland that the antics of the fans provide a bit of an distraction. I'd agree with you mick, such a sight those ants, deprivation of which makes the heart bleed. And yes, a few giggles is good for the soul. I think this Sky thing has a silver lining, of pockets! I suppose the reality is that commercial interests can influence officials and so how fringe affairs evolve. Quite. it wont be a bad thing if the Sky money means that the GAAs obsession with Dublin winning all Irelands starts to wane as they wont need the money from the BUOYS IN BLUE as much. They might even be able to decommission Joe.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 16, 2014 19:18:42 GMT
I think the national broadcaster has a duty though to show the games to all. It is more than just sport it's a national heritage as well. I don't expect to see cycling live on television here or to see hurling on telly in Belgium but a national broadcaster does have the duty to show the national sport. Yes it does have a duty to show these games...and it does show them??? But it's not about the duty really, its about the fact it makes commercial sense. Are you aware of the legislation regarding the broadcasting of events of 'national importance'? I understand that if any sports event is deemed to be of national importance that the Sports Minister is allowed direct that it be shown on RTE. Irish Independent --- Anne-Marie Walsh A review of TV coverage of major sporting events could see them all shown on free-to-air TV. The move comes after Sky signed a deal with the GAA for the first ever pay-per-view games. Sky's debut in the GAA market earlier this month pulled in just 32,000 viewers, compared to 402,000 that tuned into the Dublin/Laois encounter the following day. Now members of the public can advise the Government on the big events that should be aired for free by making a submission to the Department of Communications, Energy and Natural Resources. The minister, Pat Rabbitte, will today announce a review of TV coverage of designated sporting and other events. Following the review, he can add to the games that are currently designated, which include the All-Ireland senior inter-county football and hurling finals. "I would urge all interested parties and members of the public to submit their views to my department, which I will ensure are considered and will assist me in making my decision," Mr Rabbitte said. TV3 group director of broadcasting, Niall Cogley, said free-to-air broadcasting is an important public service. "While we respect the qualities that Sky and other pay-TV services bring, we note that its current coverage of GAA is virtually identical to TV3's previous coverage, using the same cameras, same production teams and same panellists," he said. "The only difference is the coverage was free for citizens on TV3." RTE said it will be making a submission to the review, but had no further comment. The minister is required to review the list of designated events every three years. The designated events are: * The All-Ireland senior inter-county football and hurling finals. * The Summer Olympics. * Ireland's games, including qualifying, in the European football championship and FIFA World Cup tournaments. * The opening games, the semi-finals and final of the European football championship finals and the FIFA World Cup finals. * Ireland's games in the Rugby World Cup finals. * The Irish Grand National and the Irish Derby. * The Nations Cup at the Dublin Horse Show. In addition, Ireland's games in the Six Nations rugby championship can be broadcast after the event. Submissions can be made by email to majorevents@ dcenr.gov.ie or by writing to the department. The closing date is August 1. Sky declined to comment on the review. www.independent.ie/business/media/rabbitte-to-begin-review-of-freetoair-sport-on-tv-30356759.html
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jun 24, 2014 20:51:46 GMT
I had suggested that the GAA lacked expertise in the Sky High negotiation and well, here we go, now nobody can watch what will be a game to remember between Galway and The Cats. What will happen if they keep drawing just like Meath and the Dubs in 1991 that went to 4 games. What is even worse they can still rescue it but they won't because it says so is some fine print. Where is the leadership? Where do the GAA community come, in the GAA?
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 24, 2014 20:59:32 GMT
Why cant they just record the game and show a delayed transmission at 1am... the gane doesn't have to be watched live to appreciate it
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jun 24, 2014 22:56:22 GMT
The fine print on the Sky contract apparently says no. Murdoch rules we can't see it. It also now transpires that some of the exodus has to do with the Sky deal and while I have not heard anything of Kerry players I'd say there is a fair degree of discontent across the board.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 11, 2015 0:12:39 GMT
Sky Sports bringing back a decades-old tradition! The only house in Balla, Co.Mayo with Sky Sports last Saturday.
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Post by seamo on Aug 11, 2015 9:02:40 GMT
Sky Sports bringing back a decades-old tradition! The only house in Balla, Co.Mayo with Sky Sports last Saturday. Tis a gas picture to look at, but when you really think about it then it's sad. The GAA make so much money yet we see sights like this.
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Post by onlykerry on Aug 11, 2015 9:31:02 GMT
I am not a fan of pay per view and think the money from TV rights has damaged sport but this picture has a great side to it too - a community getting together to watch a game. I bet there were many yarns spun and memories exchanged. It is not that long ago that AI finals were the only games on TV - we have come to expect everything to be "on the box" and free. Yet it costs to go to live games - Kerry GAA were charging €8 to go into early round games in this years minor and u21 championships.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 11, 2015 9:37:54 GMT
Tis a gas picture to look at, but when you really think about it then it's sad. The GAA make so much money yet we see sights like this. I agree with OnlyKerry... I think it is great.
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Post by seamo on Aug 11, 2015 10:39:44 GMT
Tis a gas picture to look at, but when you really think about it then it's sad. The GAA make so much money yet we see sights like this. I agree with OnlyKerry... I think it is great. Great on a sunny summers day...what about when it's pissin rain?...This is Ireland afterall!!! That room doesn't look like it can cater for many.
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Post by Dermot on Aug 11, 2015 10:46:31 GMT
Sky Sports bringing back a decades-old tradition! The only house in Balla, Co.Mayo with Sky Sports last Saturday. Ah thats just class
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Post by jackiel on Aug 11, 2015 11:21:40 GMT
When I first saw this on Facebook I thought it was a pisstake and I'm still not convinced it's otherwise. I do however have a problem with the whole Sky coverage thing - I normally record any matches I'm at and watch them back later. There's always a different perspective on TV and you see things you may have missed in real time and also don't see stuff on TV that you've seen in person. Since Sky coverage has come in I don't have that opportunity, I am a Sky customer but don't have sports channels as we're not a soccer house and I'm not taking out a subscription for the sake of a few matches. I'm not one for going to the pub to watch matches either particularly because it wouldn't allow me to do the roaring, scream , "ah ffs ref" ing that I can get away with at home. First world problems I know but that's my slant on it.
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 11, 2015 12:12:21 GMT
Croke Park have got this one wrong. It takes a large chunk of the games away from the people. Full stop. Watching these games in a crowded pub is no place to watch them. The experience is always less than satisfactory. The fee paid by Sky and the viewing figures are both piss poor. Time to end this particular charade and give the games back to Joe and Josephine Soap.
And spare me the jibe about the old man in Offaly with the arthritic hips who can't walk walk as far as the gate, and if he did his riddled fingers wouldn't be strong enough to pull the fly bolt on the gate. At least Rex could stand on the remote control at home or fetch it.
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Post by ballynamona on Aug 11, 2015 13:58:44 GMT
Croke Park have got this one wrong. It takes a large chunk of the games away from the people. Full stop. Watching these games in a crowded pub is no place to watch them. The experience is always less than satisfactory. The fee paid by Sky and the viewing figures are both piss poor. Time to end this particular charade and give the games back to Joe and Josephine Soap. And spare me the jibe about the old man in Offaly with the arthritic hips who can't walk walk as far as the gate, and if he did his riddled fingers wouldn't be strong enough to pull the fly bolt on the gate. At least Rex could stand on the remote control at home or fetch it. Agree 100%. It is ridiculous to say "oh, sure for years games weren't televised". The fact is these games ARE being televised, and should be available to the rank and file GAA person on terrestrial TV. I believe the Sky deal was abhorrent to the ethos of the association.
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Aug 11, 2015 14:44:07 GMT
That's a great photo right enough. Funny though, not one person wearing a Mayo geansaí or even the colours, hmmmmmmmmmmm. By the way, I think their latest jersey is the best of any team around.
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Post by jackiel on Aug 11, 2015 15:28:32 GMT
Mayo Juniors wore a very fetching black with fluorescent green on Saturday.
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Post by G_S_J on Aug 11, 2015 15:55:23 GMT
That photo is gas, but on the other hand a sad indictment of not just the GAA, but how across the board ordinary decent supporters the life blood of every sport you can imagine are being priced out by big business. Most rural people wouldn't stump up for a Sky subscription, more bloody sense. Mayo Juniors wore a very fetching black with fluorescent green on Saturday. Their seniors wore the same against us in Killarney this year, there was a small bit of uproar about because it was February and there was not much else to be put out over.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Aug 11, 2015 15:57:20 GMT
This photo has a far deeper and more profound message; Rupert Murdoch now feeds the insiders while the outsiders remain in the cold. And haven't we our own Murdoch in one Denis O'Brien. The brits are getting rid of theirs while ours is just getting his claws stuck in us. Am I the only one Denis doesn't write to?
The Sky decision was sad and the GAA have now had long enough to heed the unanimous and widespread feedback warnings. This 'No 2 to No 3 to No 4' commentary is pathetic and we can't even see if Rachael has the nice fresh pair of legs that we were promised! Maybe she has a bad knee like Spillane!
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Post by jackiel on Aug 11, 2015 16:07:04 GMT
That photo is gas, but on the other hand a sad indictment of not just the GAA, but how across the board ordinary decent supporters the life blood of every sport you can imagine are being priced out by big business. Most rural people wouldn't stump up for a Sky subscription, more bloody sense. Mayo Juniors wore a very fetching black with fluorescent green on Saturday. Their seniors wore the same against us in Killarney this year, there was a small bit of uproar about because it was February and there was not much else to be put out over. They did indeed, I was there but had forgotten all about that. The new snug fit is not for everyone but it'd be a bit more presentable to wear out and about than the regular jersey.
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Post by buck02 on Aug 11, 2015 16:55:47 GMT
I figure myself that a lot of "rank and file" GAA supporters around the country last Saturday evening and the Saturday before would have been at club games. I know that concept is alien to certain folk who frequent here.
Its a couple of games a year, get over it. They are always on the radio anyway.
When league games are on Setanta on a Saturday night, the "rank and file" have to pay to see them. €21.99 per month is the current fee for Setanta. Why wasnt there uproar about this? Is it because Setanta is an Oirish sounding company and Sky are the evil forces headed up by Rupert Murdoch. You have to look no further than 2 posts above for the answer to that question.
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